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How live rank update tools can affect how we play FPL

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Everyone loves live Fantasy Premier League (FPL) rank updates, don’t they? I probably spend more time on a certain LiveFPL site than I do with my family. Sometimes I reflexively start typing its name into my browser for no real reason. I’ve considered starting a support group, it’s gotten pretty serious.

While live rank updates are not necessarily a new thing, it’s only fairly recently that they’ve entered the broader FPL consciousness. But has the ability to see how an event on the football pitch affects your FPL rank in almost real-time changed the way we approach the game? This article will look at how the relatively new phenomenon of live rank updates might influence how we play and enjoy the game and what impulses we might need to better manage when engaging with them.

They Make FPL Feel Like a Live Sport

I’ll kick off with the biggest positive I see to live rank updates which is that they make experiencing a Gameweek feel more like you’re watching a live match and, in my opinion, it becomes more engaging as a result. In many ways, their effect resembles the final day of the season where every event might affect who wins the league, qualifies for Europe, stays up or gets relegated. A last-minute goal from one of your players is usually exciting but it’s arguably even more exciting when you can see it turn a red arrow green or push you above a mini-league rival. There’s no doubt in my mind that the mainstream emergence of live rank updates has added a whole new dimension to how we can experience FPL.

Those who were playing FPL in the 2011/12 season though, might remember having to wait until the Monday afternoon after the last round of matches had been played to see what their final rank was and whether they’d won their mini-leagues. While this did, I suppose, add some extra dramatic tension to the proceedings, it was far from ideal and serves to illustrate the stark difference between then and now.

In those days FPL was a lot less transparent and itemizable. If your player scored points it was obviously a good thing and you still had a reasonable idea of whether or not that player was a differential so you could estimate how good a thing it was. But there was also some distance between the event and its effects. Nowadays, if a player scores you can see almost immediately how it affected your rank, whether that be for better or for worse.

Laws, Sausages… and FPL

Famed 19th-century German statesman Otto von Bismarck was once quoted as saying, “If you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being made” – and the same could probably be said for FPL ranks. Being able to see which specific players influence your rank and the exact extent to which they do it is potentially useful strategically, but not necessarily something you want to have to process moment to moment, especially when it’s bad news. Stress and excitement are often two sides of the same coin and, sometimes, it’s better for your mental wellbeing to get the news, good or bad, in one big dose rather than have it drip-fed to you.

I think the most obvious solution here is to actively manage your usage. For reasons explained above, I love cranking up the live update tools when there are a lot of matches going on or, more specifically, when I have a lot of players playing – but I also think it’s good advice to consider leaving these tools alone if there are matches on in which you don’t have any players playing or the biggest threat to your rank is in action. These are the instances where it is far, far better for your mood and overall mental wellbeing to just rip the plaster off at full-time rather than peel it off slowly over 90 minutes. In fact, why are you even watching these matches, have you never heard of a garden centre?

How We Value Players

The influence of live rank updates likely extends well beyond the excitement/stress dichotomy and may well influence the way we play the game itself. For example, if you get used to seeing your rank decline on Sundays, you might start assigning greater value to the players who the live rank tools indicate are causing this. You might even start valuing over players who play more regularly on a Saturday, even if other factors might not support this evaluation.

Because who plays on a Sunday isn’t entirely random but is, rather, dictated by factors such as which teams are playing in Europe, you now have a systemic basis for inefficiently valuing players and, while that sounds really nerdy, FPL is ultimately all about using your budget as efficiently as possible. After all, the person who uses it the most efficiently over a season will invariably win the whole thing.

The rational perspective would be to care only about whether, collectively, your players achieved a red or a green arrow at the end of the Gameweek. Whether they went from a green to a red or a bigger green to a smaller green between Saturday and Sunday is ultimately irrelevant. However, because we can see that certain players or certain teams seem to affect our ranks one way or the other on a Sunday, we might convince ourselves that we need to cover them, potentially at the expense of better options.

The microscopic perspective that we gain from live score updates might not just influence which teams we focus on but how many players we look for from each team. If two players from a particular club aren’t positively pushing the needle for your rank due to high effective ownership, you might think that three players are the solution. This isn’t necessarily wrong, but it is a conclusion that is far easier to come to if you are watching how your rank is adjusting in real-time. As above, you also run the risk of artificially inflating the value of certain players over others. Points are points, ultimately, so it shouldn’t matter in the long term whether they came from a third Spurs player today or a solitary Crystal Palace player yesterday.

Back when ranks were updated only after the Gameweek had ended, it was less important which players were responsible for which part of the green or red arrow. Points were king and a rank change was largely indivisible. Now, however, rank changes can be monitored, in-play, moment to moment and minutely deconstructed as a result. This could offer a strategic advantage for those who can observe these factors rationally and in context but, as discussed here, it also opens us up to the influence of various biases that can lead us in the wrong direction.

Conclusion

Live rank updates have added many new dimensions to the game of FPL and, while some of these serve to enhance the experience of playing it, others provide new challenges to the veracity of our decision-making. 

Depending on how you use them, live rank updates can add more excitement or more stress, they can help you make better strategic decisions, or they can trigger irrational biases. The key words, of course, are ‘depending on how you use them’. The information these tools provide can influence your enjoyment of the game and the decisions you make in relation to it, so it’s important to bear this in mind when deciding when to access them and to acknowledge the potential biases their use can amplify when it comes to making your FPL decisions.

318 Comments Post a Comment
  1. nico05
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    What to do with this lot. 1FT & 3.8 to spend. Thanks in advance

    1. One More Hit
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Need another 15 players

      1. nico05
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Technical glitch 🙂

    2. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      What to do with this lot. 1FT & 3.8 to spend. Thanks in advance

      1. thegaffer82
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Having a mare 😉

      2. Warblers
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        I'd stand pat.

      3. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Quit

  2. One More Hit
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    I've donated to LiveFPL before, absolute gamechanger

  3. nico05
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Sorry to repost.
    Ramsdale
    Dalot TAA Cancelo (Dawson) (Livra)
    Jota KDB Bowen Ramsey (Bissouma)
    Kane Dennis Antonio
    A. Roll transfer
    B. Livra-Laporte
    C. Bissouma-Coutinho
    D. Anything else?

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Livra to Digne maybe. With the current situation with postponements I would not recommend triple ups.

      1. nico05
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks for that, something that wasn't on my radar but could be a great option

    2. TopBinFC
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Dalot needs to go

  4. 824545201
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    2FT, 0 ITB, Any suggestions?

    DdG - Foster
    TAA - Cancelo - R. James - Reguillon - White
    Son - Jota - B. Silva - Bowen - Gray
    Ronaldo - Antonio - Dennis

    1. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      James - Laporte stands out to me. City def could be worth a double up

      1. 824545201
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        I was thinking of doubling up on City mids with Bilva and Foden and later on selling Bilva for Salah when he returns.

  5. vova
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    best cheap defender for 4.5 mil or under? just need someone to make up numbers on the bench for the next couple of weeks so immediate fixtures aren't even that important

    1. 824545201
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Any Wolves/Burnley defender. Ait-Nouri, Kilman, Lowton are good.

    2. Hits Magnet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      A nice 4.3 available at Wolves, can't go wrong

    3. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I would go Ait-Nouri.

    4. vova
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      thanks guys! Ait Nouri seems like the best option

  6. niaz1982
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Should i bring in Dias or Robertson for Duffy?
    Current defence is TAA Rudiger Cancelo?

    Is it also worth -4 if Villa get a DGW to do Edouard to Watkins?

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I would go Dias. Have you considered Laporte?

      1. niaz1982
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Totally forgot i pushed the button early this week and brought dias in - d'oh

        1. BeWater
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 2 months ago

          Ah mate. Nevermind. I think Watkins is worth it if Villa get a double as he's a captain option.

  7. Ian J
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Great article - should have titled it ‘How live rank FPL tool can affect your mood, or even your mental health’

  8. Quan MisTaka
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    What to do with this lot? NEed to figure out my priporities and order of moves over the next few Gameweeks. Only cert is Salah back in 24 or 25

    1.9m

    Ramsdale (De Gea)
    TAA, Cancelo, Dias (Lapmtey, Livra*)
    Bowen, Saka, Mount*, Jota, (Gallagher)
    Watkins, Ronaldo, Antonio*

    Feeling i need to move out Mount & Antonio, Ronaldo and Saka eventually and potentially Jota, Gallagher and Livra.

    What are my priority moves?

  9. thegaffer82
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Must admit, checking live scores and ranks can certainly affect my happiness…
    But I just don’t see any reality where it could affect my transfer making decisions. I still always see the GW as a distinct compartmentalized entity.
    Buying players who play on Sunday or such, is just daft!

    But maybe I’m in a minority…

    1. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I check the live scores far too frequently - it's addictive to check how the latest goal or whatever has affected my rank.
      But like you I try to treat the entire GW as a single entity.

      It is a common fallacy that a drop in rank when a highly owned player gets a decent score means that that player is almost essential, when in fact owning a less popular alternative playing at a different time and getting a higher score will have a more beneficial effect on your overall GW score.

      Effective ownership of individual players is overrated - it's the points scored by the team as a whole that matters.

  10. Rbyrne95
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Questionszzzz/Thoughts

    -Keep or transfer Foden out for Coutinho if they have a double?
    -Transfer out Maddison for Coutinho?
    -Transfer out Jota for Coutinho to allow getting Robertson as my third liverpool player alongside
    -Transfer Broja to Watkins and keep midfield for time being.

    1. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      - nope
      - nope
      - nope
      - potentially yes, if they have a double

      I don’t get why everyone is rushing to buy a guy who’s clearly not match fit, and actually hasn’t been playing regular minutes for a few years now.

      Could be 2, 3 or even 4 more games before he’s a regular starter & fully up to speed

      1. Rbyrne95
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        In all honesty, it's just one of those tempting risk situations. I probably shouldn't be doing it but i'm top 10k atm and fancied a differential.

    2. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Bottom one but failing that 3rd bottom if you also own TAA

      1. Rbyrne95
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Ye, it's something to look forward to regarding the third defender. I have Alonso currently however and I'm pondering who to swap to with 4.4itb

  11. Kodap
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    0.7m in the bank and 1FT, Rudiger > Digne the sensible move here and not take a hit?

    Lloris
    Cancelo - Taa - Rudiger
    Kdb - Bilva - Jota - Bowen - Maddison
    Dennis - Cr7

    Bachmann - Lamptey - Broja - Coufal

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah look at something similar.

  12. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Gray Rudiger to Foden Digne -4

    Yay or nay?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Yay for me

    2. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Yes from me, both need to go imo

    3. TopBinFC
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Not for a hit, new manager bounce with Gray this weekend, or shall I say new interim manager bounce

  13. Rains of Castamere
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Daily Mail (yes I know) being very definitive here on Ronaldo:

    "On the right-hand side of defence, Rangnick confirmed Aaron Wan-Bissaka is set to miss the trip to London with the same illness that ruled him out of the visit to Villa, meaning Diogo Dalot is likely to get another run out.

    In midfield, it is difficult to see how Fernandes will be displaced given his double against Villa, but Scott McTominay's return from a one-match suspension could see him replace Matic.

    Up front, the Red Devils will have to continue without the help of Cristiano Ronaldo, who once more did not travel with the squad to London for the game at the Brentford Community Stadium."

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10417603/Manchester-United-Predicted-XI-face-Brentford-Premier-League-Maguire-available.html

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      MEN literally confirmed Ronaldo has travelled with the squad.

      MEN >>>>> DailyMail

      1. Rains of Castamere
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        I live in Manchester and unfortunately, the MEN is often wide of the mark.

    2. Warblers
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      MEN says otherwise. I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see....

    3. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I do hope this is true!

    4. Kodap
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      The consensus on previous posts is that he is travelling separately after picking up an award last night elsewhere. (i want to say it was in Switzerland)

      1. Rains of Castamere
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        That can't be right, as he was back in England on Monday night after the ceremony. Rangnick said he would look at him in training yesterday (Tuesday afternoon).

    5. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Well I guess that’s it then

      King 4 point captain haul locked in

      1. Geriatric Unathletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Better than 2 points from CR7, lol 🙂

    6. thegaffer82
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Funny how I *never* see anybody with anything good to say about the Mail…
      And yet, it’s easily one of the top selling papers in the UK.

      Who are these people buying it? And why won’t they admit to being a reader?

      1. Rains of Castamere
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Sportsmail have some good sources, but their front page stuff is usually pure bile.

      2. Geriatric Unathletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Raises hand.

      3. maglia rosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Funny this, I've never understood why my departed Father bought the Mail in the 80's. A working man, working class through and through yet he bought that right leaning nonsense into the house day after day, year after year.

    7. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Hope this is true as Gallagher is first on my bench.

    8. Pino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I hope CR7 plays. My VC is Alonso with 2p from 2 games. 🙁

  14. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Worth getting KDB as a long term move? Could have something like Salah/KDB/Jota/Maddison/Bowen.
    Said that, won;t his minutes be limited with CL back?

    1. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Definitely. I see him as the most assured start in midfield

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Not sure about long term but looks good for the next 3 atleast.

    3. Torres76
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Coutinho?

  15. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    DDG
    TAA Cancelo Keane
    Bruno Jota Foden Bowen Gray
    Ronaldo Antonio

    (Gunn Broja Dier Livra)
    1 FT & 0.6m

    Keane ➡️ Digne for free?

    Anything else worth a hit?

    1. fish&chips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Looks good. No hits required

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers mate!

    2. Reacher
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Antonio to King or Dennis would be my move

      1. Reacher
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Or Watkins IF the double is announced

  16. fish&chips
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Would you get rid of Salah if you still have him? Seems a waste of a transfer now given he'll likely be back next week. Should have got Bruno last GW but that's life

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Think I would keep him now.

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't sell now I guess.

    3. nico05
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Probably not at this point

    4. Kodap
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't get rid of him now if you've kept him for this long personally, should have shifted when AFCON started. Hold!

  17. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Live FPL has many great features, not least Live Rank, but EO is not one of them. I absolutely hate knowing in advance that I don't want some of my players to do anything. Spoils my enjoyment of the live televised games especially. 🙁

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I think remember Kane being over 200% last year in a DGW and people who captained him didn't want him to return. Must be bliss being unaware of EO.

    2. fish&chips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Agree with this WR. I miss the old days where you could cheer on all of your players in blissful ignorance that you rank was getting hammered

      1. Will Kane
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        That is still what I do! And I can confirm that the ignorance is indeed blissful!

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 2 months ago

          Unfortunately if you are active on FPL forums, it's pretty hard to avoid.

          1. Will Kane
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 2 months ago

            Yes I must pick up bits and pieces just from being on here but because it has never particularly interested me I have a subconscious way of screening out most posts where I see EO percentages. Also I generally avoid the forum when matches are actually taking place.

    3. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Rank is nice and all but if that's all you are looking at I feel it can become a bit dull.

      I just want to compete and hopefully beat my mini league rivals. I love the live league section, just so I can see who everyone has captained.

      Having players to cheer, and players you want to blank is all part of the fun.

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        'Having players to cheer, and players you want to blank is all part of the fun.'

        Obviously, but not when those you want to blank are in your own team, that's my point.

  18. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Never check eo

    Usually check live rank during and after a good week and try to avoid the whole thing like the plaque during a bad week

    1. BeWater
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Checking it as every Salah return went in v United when I had Havertz (c) was like watching a horror movie!

      1. fish&chips
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Yep. Antonio (c) wasn't great last week either when bowen banged in his brace

    2. TheDragon
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Unfortunately I think EO has an important part to play in decision making (particularly at certain points of the season).

      I do hate it though. This year in particular: TAA, Cancelo, Jota, Bowen, Salah all 100% … that’s half our teams where there performance is irrelevant!

      1. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Remember that everyone else has the same problem - no-one can captain two players in the same GW.
        The main thing is to own them if they're doing well, and to captain the one that scores the most points.

    3. Will Kane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I've never even been on a Live FPL site. I'm a simple man, I pick players, I hope they score points, I'm happy when they do. Just see what my rank is after the GW has finished, always happy with a green arrow but overall I'm not too fussed about rank gains, just trying to win my mini leagues.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        The best way to be without a doubt

  19. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    To managers selling Alonso, who do you plan to replace him with?

    1. Black Knights
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Watkins if the double comes.

    2. The Final Boss
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Alonso and james turned out to be the biggest let downs right? I had James after Leicester, rest is history. Alonso not much different I guess in terms of fpl points.

      1. TheTinman
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Chelseas level in general has just fallen off a cliff.

        If you play 5 at the back your most important players are the wingback. Once those two got injured you're relying on a poor Alonso and an over the hill Azpi to do it.

        Tuchels refusal to adapt is what's costing Chelsea right now in my opinion

      2. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Yup, Alonso especially. Maybe get Laporte to double with Cancelo or Digne...

    3. Rains of Castamere
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Ditching him and happy to play with a squad of 14. Useless.

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Ait-Nouri

  20. TheTinman
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    I can't afford Laporte.. Walker played 90mins the other week, is he worth going for?

  21. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Can a city attacker wait a week? Saints have been pretty decent overall and defensively at home

    Say for example if the choice is between bringing in Raph with a double or kdb?

    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Ooooo risky. Saints usually try to play a bit and can be a bit of an open team for City

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Is it though? The city attack points always seem so spread out and hard to predict

    2. Will Kane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I think Raph with a double would just edge it, but if the double doesn't materialise then KDB in first

    3. Rains of Castamere
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I thought this when they played Brighton away... then they put 4 past them.

  22. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    No Ronaldo tonight would mean lots of lucky vice captaincy and sub points.

    1. WHUFCSmith23
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Everyone that was silly enough to bench Cancelo will be getting off the hook. Shame

    2. CONNERS
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I'm really hoping he gets a 20 min cameo.

  23. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Mount gray > kdb Ramsey?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      I'm keeping Gray. Everton have decent fixtures, 3 good dgw's to come and possibly a manager bounce.

      1. AARON-1
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, Big Dunc getting ready to grab the nearest ball boy and swing him around in wild celebration again...

  24. Joyce1998
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    A- Salah, Jota, Kane, Coady
    or
    B- KDB, Salah, DCL, Digne

    1. TheTinman
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      B

    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      B

    3. Boly Would
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      B

    4. notlob legin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      A

  25. Torres76
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Template midfield when Salah is back?

    Salah, Jota, Bowen, Coutinho, KDB

    Cheers

    1. mox81
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Jota on thin ice, not sold on Coutinho yet, Son could displace KdB when fit. Think Arsenal mids offer value, Raph about to make comeback? Cornet interesting given extra fixtures.

  26. DIMITRIS
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    How does this WC draft look like :
    Sa (Guaita)
    TAA / Robbo / Laporte / Digne / Williams
    KDB / Foden / Coutinho / Bowen / Raphinha
    ASM / DCL / Watkins
    0 ITB
    * I tried to get in 15 first starters, so that team would be more "covid-independent" and that the bench boost can be used when the opportunity arise.

    1. Catastrophe
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Main flaw is no obvious path to getting Salah in (KDB should remain)

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Well I thought of getting Salah back in instead of KDB. It would be very difficult to get them both in the side and it would require that I get some bench fodders (hence no use of BB ) in order to make funds for both of them.

        1. Catastrophe
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 2 months ago

          Hmm, I think you can still pull together a good BB squad including Salah. There's a lot of money to save for example if you downgraded Coutinho to Ramsey, Robertson to Ait Nouri/Lowton, DCL -> Broja etc. and if you're looking at BB then I'd upgrade Williams to Ait Nouri/Lowton. and then perhaps choose to sacrifice Raphinha for Salah in GW24 if you can get the $ together.

          I'm going for the below with 2.6M ITB for Fernandes -> Salah and Raphinha -> Foden.

          Sa
          TAA, Cancelo, Robertson, Digne
          KDB, Fernandes, Raphinha, Bowen
          Watkins, Dennis

          (Foster, Ramsey, Broja, Lowton)

          1. DIMITRIS
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 2 months ago

            Whoa, that's some defense you have there. I admit that having Salah and KDB looks very nice but I'm still not convinced of your bench. I mean, they all play but at how much potential points are you looking to get out of them?
            I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong, but I'd hate to get into a position where new postponements are announced and I need to go again into -4 in order to field 11 ( with Broja and Lowton and other cheap alternatives).
            Cheers!

            1. Catastrophe
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah fair points. I think my bench is pretty strong to be fair, the strongest it has been this season at least 🙂 especially with the extra Burnley fixtures and if Ramsey can keep his form up he's a great option. Broja could be ASM but I prefer to keep that extra $ to get Foden in also as I feel 3 City are essential. I guess I'm (perhaps optimistically) thinking we are over the worst of the COVID postponements, but time will tell. For me on WC I see TAA, Cancelo, Robertson, Digne, KDB, Salah, Bowen, Raphinha (short term), Ramsey all essential. The leftover money is fairly well balanced between GK, forwards and bench. I just don't see going without Salah and KDB or the heavy-hitter defenders an option on WC, which ultimately does limit the money for bench.

              1. DIMITRIS
                • 5 Years
                2 years, 2 months ago

                I agree with your list of essential players for WC. The only thing which I don't is bench. Cheers!

                1. Catastrophe
                  • 13 Years
                  2 years, 2 months ago

                  Indeed, a compromise has to be taken somewhere 🙂 good luck!

    2. Torres76
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Downgrade DCL and Watkins? To say Dennis and Borja then do Foden to KDB

      Foden only plays 1 in 2 weeks

      1. DIMITRIS
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        This draft includes already KDB. If I'd downgrade Watkins and DCL to Broja and Dennis it would still be insufficient funds to get to Salah from Foden. I would be short 0.4. It's easier to get Salah instead of KDB and downgrade someone else for 0.6 (the difference between KDB and Salah).
        Of course, if I want Salah and KDB both in my team, this whole draft is redundant as it's sole purpose of having strong 15 first team options for rotation and proper use of BB wouldn't be met.

  27. AARON-1
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    There's a decent possibility that Leeds will get a double game week in 23 as well as Villa. If they do, I think I'll bring in Raphinha and captain him. Have to see what announcements there are about doubles, but he appeals more to me than the most popular Villa trio of Watkins, Coutinho and Digne.

    1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      An announcement soon would be nice

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Doubt it will be announced this week, deadline already on Friday for GW 23 and the deadline for GW 24 isn't until Feb 8th.

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Haven't confirmed myself, but people were saying that Raphinha would miss one of the potential DGW game week matches on International duty.

      1. AARON-1
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Good to know. I hadn't realised. I'll do some digging. Cheers

  28. winchester
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    good day lads. have 1ft and 4.5m itb. What moves should be done, at deadline? cheers!

    ddg
    taa - cancelo - reguilon
    bernardo - jota - bowen - bruno
    antonio - watkins - dennis

    (foster - saka - keane - livra)

    a) bernardo -> foden?
    b) keane -> digne?
    something else?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      A

  29. Rbyrne95
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    I like the idea of getting Digne, especially with the double. However, Digne's one of those players who always gets injured when I've brought him in. He's on my 'unlucky' list alongside Vardy.

    1. AARON-1
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Let's see if the double actually materialises. There will be some options to weight up if it does. Watkins, Coutinho, Digne, a double for Leeds would see Raphinha throw his hat into the ring, too.

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      He is on my troll list from past experiences

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 2 months ago

      Cash over Digne

      1. AARON-1
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, Digne is really dividing opinion. Some seem to think he's worth his weight in gold, others (like me) remain unconvinced. Let's see how it pans out.

  30. Catastrophe
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 2 months ago

    Thought on this WC chaps?

    Sa
    TAA, Cancelo, Robertson, Digne
    KDB, Fernandes, Raphinha, Bowen
    Watkins, Dennis

    (Foster, Ramsey, Broja, Lowton)

    2.6M ITB for Fernandes -> Salah and Raphinha -> Foden.

    Cheers!