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2pm kick-off team news: Salah and Mane start, Jota benched

13 February 2022 1071 comments
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Double Gameweek 25 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) continues this Sunday lunchtime, with Burnley v Liverpool, Newcastle United v Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur v Wolverhampton Wanderers kicking-off at 14:00 GMT.

The big team news comes from Turf Moor, where Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane return to Liverpool’s attack, alongside Roberto Firmino in Jurgen Klopp’s 4-3-3 formation.

That means Diogo Jota drops to the bench with new signing Luis Diaz.

Sean Dyche makes one change for Burnley, with Aaron Lennon coming in for Dwight McNeil.

At Newcastle, Eddie Howe makes two changes from Gameweek 24, with Dan Burn and Javier Manquillo in for Jamaal Lascelles and Matt Targett, who is ineligible.

Meanwhile, Aston Villa bring in Calum Chambers for the suspended Ezri Konsa.

Elsewhere, Rodrigo Bentancur makes his first start for Antonio Conte, as he replaces Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg in the engine room, while there are also changes at wing-back, with Matt Doherty and Ryan Sessegnon coming in for Emerson Royal and Sergio Reguilon, both of whom are substitutes.

For their opponents, Bruno Lage hands a first Premier League start to Luke Candle, with Rayan Ait-Nouri also returning to the XI for Marcal.

DOUBLE GAMEWEEK 25 LINE-UPS

Burnley XI: Pope, Roberts, Tarkowski, Mee, Pieters, Lennon, Brownhill, Westwood, Cornet, Rodriguez, Weghorst

Subs: Lowton, Cork, Barnes, McNeil, Hennessey, Stephens, Collins, Bardsley, Long

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Salah, Mane, Firmino

Subs: Konate, Thiago, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jota, Tsimikas, Diaz, Kelleher, Elliott

Newcastle United XI: Dubravka, Trippier, Schar, Burn, Manquillo, Shelvey, Willock, Joelinton, Fraser, Saint-Maximin, Wood

Subs: Darlow, Dummett, Krafth, Murphy, Almiron, Gayle, Longstaff, Guimaraes, De Bolle

Aston Villa XI: Martinez, Cash, Chambers, Mings, Digne, Douglas Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Buendia, Coutinho, Watkins

Subs: Olsen, Hause, Chrisene, Young, Iroegbunam, Sanson, Chukwuemeka, Bailey, Ings

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Sanchez, Romero, Davies, Doherty, Bentancur, Winks, Sessegnon, Moura, Son, Kane

Subs: Gollini, Rodon, Reguilon, Royal, White, Hojbjerg, Kulusevski, Bergwijn, Scarlett

Wolverhampton Wanderers XI: Sa, Kilman, Coady, Saiss, Semedo, Dendoncker, Neves, Cundle, Ait-Nouri, Podence, Jimenez

Subs: Ruddy, Hoever, Marcal, Trincao, Silva, Jonny, Chiquinho, Toti, Hwang

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  1. TomSaints
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    I’m trying to get my head around the logic. Hypothetically, if you had TC Sterling this week (likely low scoring week) would it have a greater benefit on rank than if you TC Salah and he got the same score?

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    1. TomSaints
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      On one hand it looks like no difference points wise, but it feels like it should make more of a difference haha

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    2. Shark Team
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Pts define your rank so if you get same pts you will get the same rank gain

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      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Not true.

        If you get 40 and everyone else gets 10, you gain 30. If you get 40 and everyone else gets 40, you gain nothing.

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        1. Volley127
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          But you’re changing other people’s points which would if course change your rank. This is not the case in the preposed scenario.

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          1. Volley127
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 11 months ago

            Of course*

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          2. Biggsy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 11 months ago

            Well the proposed scenario simplifies a lot of factors.

            For example if you TC Sterling this week and C Salah next week you gain more than someone who had Pogba in Sterling's place and TC Salah next week.

            Looking at the TC chip is isolation it doesn't matter.

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    3. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Yes, because of EO

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      1. TomSaints
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        That’s the point though. How does EO affect it? I feel like it should but I don’t think it does and therefore anything other than TC Salah next week is stupidly risky

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        1. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Actually, when you think of it, probably no effect as the Salah guys will catch up with what you gained.

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    4. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Not if you still captain both.

      18 gained from Sterling then *lost* on Salah.

      Points wise, no difference!

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      1. Debauchy
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        That's the point with eo though , very few Cpt Sterling for his haul but many on Cpt Salah if TC not on him. Sterling TC guy ahead easy

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    5. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      No

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    6. Gandalf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Yes, because even though you yourself end up on the same number of points, less people get the benefit of Sterling's points than Salah's points

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      1. Debauchy
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Exactly this.

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      2. TomSaints
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        See that’s what I think but I see a lot saying that’s wrong haha and I equally get where they’re coming from.

        You still get the same point from the TC chip, it shouldn’t matter how you get those points

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        1. Gandalf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Putting some numbers to it - say Salah has EO of 40% and Sterling has EO of 2%.

          18 points for Salah is the same as 18 points for Sterling so no difference for your points.

          The points around you is what matters - others get 7 EO points for Salah's points which closes the gap on your rank, while for Sterling others get only 0.36 points. Clearly a difference.

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    7. TomSaints
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      If I triple captain pow EO player A for 20 points and then in a later week every captains Player B for 20 points.

      The outcome is still 20 points from TC, just that I get a big rank rise from played A then lose rank when player B hauls.

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      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        That's because you're looking at the gain from the TC in isolation. In your example, the week you play it you have 10 other players scoring + 20 from your TC.

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        1. Biggsy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Mashed post halfway through....

          So say the first week you have same players as everyone else, you've score a net +20. But say second week you bring in Player B so you have an identical team (but can't TC) then you'd still score 1/3 of the points meaning everyone else only gains 2/3 of the 20 on you

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          1. TomSaints
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 11 months ago

            I think that makes sense, thanks for explaining

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    8. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Obviously the Sterling 54 points would have a much greater effect on your OR.
      The score you get each week doesn’t actually matter. It’s the score that others around you get in relation to yours that matters.
      You can score 30 points in a GW and go up 100k places. But equally you could get 89 points and a red arrow.

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      1. TomSaints
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        I’m not disagreeing as that was my thought going into this but I’ve seen a lot of others disagreeing.

        It then seems Salah TC next week is the very safe choice but has limited benefit.

        I’d love to see a more detailed article expand on this and show why

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    9. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Points gain with Sterling would certainly be higher

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    10. fish&chips
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      It is the same. You would get a massive rank boost with sterling because you'd be up 100% of sterling's points against everyone that didn't TC him but then a massive rank loss with Salah because you would be down 100% of the points that salah gets against all the guys that captain salah. Overall you would rise in rank a lot but that would purely be related to the captain component generated from owning sterling who is quite big differential, which you would get irregardless of using TC on him or not

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  2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Watkins is so bad

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    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      He's been invisible the last five games.

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    2. @persecuted_by_mods
        3 years, 11 months ago

        The logic supposedly is he works hard and offers more but honestly other than lack of injury I can't think of any attribute he has over ings, from workrate to assisting to finishing

        Which means Watkins purely starts because Ings can't be relied on to stay fit. For me Ings is top quality and should play whenever he is available

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    3. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Newcastle is so unlucky with the injuries.

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    4. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      One attacking return would be nice.

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      1. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Wait for Diogo to get subbed on.

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    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Need my differential Bowen to save this GW later

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      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Bowens actually my cap as KDB didnt show up

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      2. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        ⸮

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    6. Shark Team
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      As a Son owner I didnt expect a lot from this game, but rly Son could haul today in the way he plays. He had at least 3 chances in front of goal and 2 potential assists.

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    7. BIGREDDOG
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      My worst ever gameweek! Missed the deadline & burned a free transfer. I have Gray, Cancelo, Laporte, Martinelli & Livra. From my 6 playing players i have 6/6 blanks. 14 points so far.

      Lovely stuff

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      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        #skillz

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        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Big time!

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          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 11 months ago

            I like that you know its just a dumb game and you're brushing it off. Lovely stuff indeed

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      2. MJF
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        That sucks fella.

        Hopefully you missed the deadline 'cause you were having fun in real life!

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        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          That was the reason! lol

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      3. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Hope you missed the deadline because of important family time or you were making a business deal for some $$$.

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        1. BIGREDDOG
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          I wish 😀

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      4. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        *hugs*

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      5. BIGREDDOG
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Welcome comiserations lol! Cheers all

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    8. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Kane big miss

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      1. Nanoelektronicar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        I could've lived without that info.

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    9. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Thiago for Henderson 1st sub.

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      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Salah next needs a rest

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    10. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Thiago on

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    11. MJF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Wolves are sneaking towards a challenge for fourth here.

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      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        They play arsenal again in a couple weeks, a loss at emirates will end that challenge.

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        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          And that's why they'll win

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          1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 11 months ago

            that’s not how it works.

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            1. Zimo
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 11 months ago

              And yet it'll happen

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              1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 11 months ago

                You want to bet a pair of your mums long johns?

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      2. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Quality side.

        One of the best defences in the world atm.

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      3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        One of the most boring teams out there

        Awful attack which somehow spurs have conceded 2 goals to

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    12. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Digne hitting the first defender with two crosses in as many seconds 🙄

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    13. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Seems Burnley have Mo's number.

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      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        At least my KDB to Salah for a hit only cost a point then

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    14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      OMG watkins

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      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Digne cross, but not directly scored from it

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    15. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Watkins offside

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      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Naturally

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    16. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Sa creaming up more baps

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Wrong forum

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      2. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Love that

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    17. PartyTime
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      If you want a goal better throw Ings into the fray

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      1. PartyTime
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Mods please delete this

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        1. PartyTime
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Errm. Don’t delete this please

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      2. iL PiStOlErO
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Uups

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        1. iL PiStOlErO
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          Uuups on my uuups. Looks you were right after all, lol.

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    18. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Watkins toenail check

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      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Goal ruled out

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    19. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Watkins goal, Coutinho assist maybe

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      1. Kodap
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Coutinho assist would be nice

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Offside

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      3. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        It's not. Don't be premature

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    20. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Watkins instinctive header

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    21. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Lol I thought I had Ait-Nouri second on my bench but no I decided to put lil ol Dennis there and Ait-Nouri 3rd 😆 goodbye clean sheet points. It was nice knowing u

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    22. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Weghorst looks okay. Not great. But worth a look for a double-double.

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      1. Mr. O'Connell
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        In King had a double double, would you buy him?

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    23. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Offside

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    24. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      No Goal for Watkins

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    25. Do I Not Like Orange
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Pathetic VAR.

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    26. Milk, 1 Šuker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Jota keep your butt on the bench I have Watkins first sub … oh wait a minute

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      1. Hughes Your Daddy
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah i want Jota to stay on the bench as well, as have Jansson

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        1. Monklane
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 11 months ago

          oops

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    27. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      All kicking off in the Spuds v Wolves game

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    28. Duke Silver ☑
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Jesus Christ it's not much to ask for a Salah assist or goal over the last 2 GWs. Never keeping a player through AFCON again.

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    29. MIGHTY JOE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      Just hold cs, Liverpool

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    30. EL tridente
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 11 months ago

      What a joke

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