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FPL new signings: Will Zinchenko be ‘out of position’ at Arsenal?

Oleksandr Zinchenko‘s (£5.0m) move to Arsenal has seen his Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership climb past the 10% mark.

As a result, the Ukraine international is now a more popular purchase than Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and every other Gunners defender in FPL.

Is Arsenal’s £30m new signing worthy of the newfound Fantasy interest, then? We’ll assess his appeal in this Moving Target piece.

WHAT PLAYER AND MANAGER HAVE SAID

“He can play in both (defence and midfield). He was a natural No. 10 early in his career and we converted him into a left-back which can do a lot of things that we want in our way of playing.

“That versatility is something that is going to be important for the team because we have players in that position who are more specific full-back so I’m really happy.” – Mikel Arteta

“He’s a player that I personally know really well and continued to follow him after my time at Manchester City. Alex is a high-quality player who will give us options and versatility. It’s not only about the positions he can play but as well, the versatility he will give us in attack and defence. Alex is a person with great human qualities and character, and I’m delighted that everyone has made this huge effort to bring Alex to the club.” – Mikel Arteta

“[My best position is] wherever the manager is going to see me on the pitches. It’s the simple answer but it’s true, even if the manager tells me one day I need to be goalkeeper, I will be there.

Yes, we spoke about my role in this team, but I would like to keep it private and then we are going to see.” – Oleksandr Zinchenko

“He was desperate to play and I knew that. It was a maximum 45 minutes but you could see straight away he was comfortable. He understands everything that I want, he understands the process and I thought he had a really good game.” – Mikel Arteta after Oleksandr Zinchenko’s debut v Chelsea

ZINCHENKO’S HISTORY

SeasonFPL pointsMinutes playedStartsSub appsGoals scoredAssistsClean sheetsBonusStarting priceEnd price
2021/225910441050454£5.5£5.3
2020/216914731550085£5.5£5.5
2019/204912711360061£5.5£5.2
2018/194411511400391£5.0£4.7
2017/1816530620030£5.0£5.0
2016/1700000000£5.5£5.3

Never starting more than 15 Premier League games in a season and not stringing together more than four successive league appearances since the beginning of 2019/20, we haven’t really been able to take a sustained look at Zinchenko as an FPL asset.

The complete absence of goals is notable, while the assist count is modest, too – although four of those did arrive in 2021/22 from just 10 starts and five substitute appearances.

Virtually all of his City run-outs came at left-back, with opportunities to shine in midfield few and far between.

That wasn’t the case at his first club, Ufa, where the bulk of his 31 Russian top-flight appearances came in either a central, wide or attacking midfield role. Two goals and four assists came from those showings before he left, as a teenager, to join City.

And as for international duty, the Ukraine captain is almost exclusively used in central midfield.

A more eye-catching eight goals have arrived from his 52 caps, with his attacking potential showcased in last summer’s Euro 2020 quarter-final against Sweden.

WHERE WILL HE FIT IN AT ARSENAL?

Left-back or a left-sided number 8?

We’ll probably see Zinchenko in both positions during his time in north London but at the moment, the strong indications are that he will start the season at left-back.

Kieran Tierney (£5.0m) is now back in training but the injury-prone Scot has missed a big chunk of pre-season, featuring for only half an hour against Nurnberg on July 8 before fitness issues caused him to disappear from view again.

Zinchenko was indeed used at left-back in the thrashing of Chelsea, impressing in his 45-minute showing with his passing in particular.

There is, in fact, one more key quote we haven’t brought you yet from Arteta, which the Arsenal boss delivered a week ago.

“His main position is left-back but within that position and within the formation that we have he can alter and occupy different spaces on the pitch and this is the main quality he has.” – Mikel Arteta

What Arteta said above about Zinchenko occupying “different spaces” was evident against Chelsea: on some occasions he would tuck into central midfield or occupy the half-spaces, on others he would stick wider and bomb forward when left-winger Gabriel Martinelli (£6.0m) drifted infield.

Encouragingly, there were sights of Zinchenko in the opposition box, be it an underlapping run or some back-post loitering when play was being built up on the right.

With existing left-back options Tierney and Nuno Tavares (£4.5m) more at home hugging the touchline, Zinchenko’s arrival allows Arteta the option of further emulating his mentor Pep Guardiola’s ‘inverted full-back’ tactics.

“Zinchenko’s versatility has been particularly beneficial given the way Guardiola uses his full-backs. The City manager looked to invert his full-backs from the very early stages of his tenure at the Etihad, which his former City No 2 Arteta has attempted to replicate since getting the Arsenal job in December 2019, but mostly just with his right-backs. 

“Takehiro Tomiyasu has emerged as the most comfortable aiding build-up play in more central areas of the pitch but Hector Bellerin and Ainsley Maitland-Niles have also tried to meet their manager’s demands over the past two and a half years.” – Art de Roche/Mark Carey, The Athletic

When we do see Zinchenko in midfield, it’ll likely be at the expense of Granit Xhaka (£5.0m), whose limitations as a number eight even Arteta admitted to last season. The reported pursuit of Lyon’s Lucas Paqueta, however, suggests that the Arsenal boss wants even more options in the engine room for his dream 4-3-3 set-up.

ZINCHENKO IN DEFENCE: THE STATS



657 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Hog Roast Junkie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Last decision
    A) Robbo and 4.5 gk
    B) James and Ederson

    1. Meechoo115
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A imo. Chelsea a mess right now

      1. Old and Slow
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, I have gone from 3 Chelsea to zero until I see how they sort out

      2. Punty McPuntface
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Why are they in a mess? I've not been following them

        1. Bushwhacker
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Playing 4-4-2 and conceding goals like getting pressies at Christmas in pre season. Lost to an MLS team then battered by Arsenal.

  2. R.C.
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    2 Premium defenders plus rotate two 4.5 def or get a 5m def?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      5m defender

    2. Meechoo115
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer Trippier over all the 4.5 options. Would both others be a 4.0 if you got him?

      You would have an issue GW5 when Neco and Trippier have nasty fixtures

  3. Meechoo115
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Can I get a good old RMT…?

    Meslier. 4.0
    Dalot. Trent. Trippier. Cancelo. 4.0
    Martinelli. Mahrez. Salah. Diaz. 4.5
    Jesus. Kane. 4.5

    Not going “out there” (yet)

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      7.5/10

      1. Meechoo115
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Where is the 2.5 issue? Thanks

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Dalot
          Martinelli

          1. Meechoo115
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Thanks. Yes not sure on Dalot

            I love Martinelli as a player and an option but appreciate the risk there.

        2. Bobby Digital
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Not a fan of Meslier either

        3. DARE TO BISCAN
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Don't think you can have a 10/10. Always compromise somewhere.

        4. Old and Slow
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I'm guessing he will say that Pep is going to give you ulcers with lineup changes.... And Leeds defense makes clean sheets as rare as honest politicians....

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      8.5/10

      Not sure Meslier is worth it, and think 2 4.5 attacker is risky

  4. Bobby Digital
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A. Ramsdale James
    B. Mendy Gabriel

    1. Meechoo115
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A but what would you do with +1m with B? There should a 3rd player in these options

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Don't know where to use it.. maybe Grealish to a 8.0m

        1. Old and Slow
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Then B

        2. Dynamic Duos
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Still A , I like Grealish

    3. Bushwhacker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A but not James

  5. kroky
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A. Ederson ,trippier , Son

    Or

    B. Grealish ,Kane ,Raya

    1. Meechoo115
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A a lot safer. But I would go B.

      1. kroky
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Haha yeah I know what you mean

  6. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Best option

    A Ramsdale Trippier plus .5 m
    B Ederson Zinchenko
    C Ederson Gabriel

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. linkafu
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Ederson+Trippier

  7. FPLMACKEM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Which draft?

    A)
    Sanchez
    TAA, Cancelo, James, Robertson
    Salah (c), Martinelli, Grealish, Neto
    Haaland, Jesus

    4.0, Andreas, N Williams, Greenwood

    B)
    Sanchez
    TAA, Cancelo, James, Trippier
    Salah (c), Martinelli, Diaz, Rashford
    Haaland, Jesus

    4.0, Andreas, Patterson, Greenwood

    Any other suggestions?

  8. R.C.
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Heavy in midfield team - RMT please

    Raya
    TAA Cancelo Neco
    Salah Diaz Sancho Rashford Martinelli
    Jesus Kane

    4.0 Patterson 4.0 4.5

    1. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Cracking team,I have a new 451 combo just nailing down the last tweaks.

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Like it, prefer not going to heavy on defence early in the season

      1. R.C.
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Can I get away with Neco?

        1. g40steve
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Going to play & I think Forest players will be popular after the first few weeks

          1. RamaJama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Agree

            1. g40steve
              • 6 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              The manager is top quality & they are spending to get quality & depth.

            2. R.C.
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Thanks guys

    3. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Considered Grealish instead of Sancho to get some City attack and not double manu mid? Could then upgrade a def

      1. R.C.
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Grealish is not nailed so I don't think I'll get him

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Two United midfielders is totally daft

  9. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Come on guys. Just over an hour to go! Plus a week. Should be fun on here then...

    1. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, FPL will be down or crashing regularly and those who left team selection to the last minute will be complaining about it.

      1. Josh.E
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Last season’s crash affected my first free hit, still hurts remembering son on my bench

  10. abhirup780
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Your top theee 4.5 defender?

    1. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Jonny, Dalot, Coufal, Anderson, Justin, White no particular order

    2. SAUCY SALAH
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Ait Nouri
      Jonny
      Castagne

    3. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Guehi

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Justin
      Dunk
      RAN/Jonny

  11. g40steve
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Alisson or Ederson & how essential are Kane & Haaland?

    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Ederson because three Pool outfield players are more valuable imo
      Kane/Haaland essential because one will be the top scoring FPL striker

      1. g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Ta got a cracking 451 with Jesus & got variety with either Alisson or Ederson.

    2. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Alisson is the better shop stopper, so will outscore Ederson, just depends how highly you value the 3rd Pool slot.

      not essential at all, no one is, just depends if you care about ownership

  12. Fero1905
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Please dont k*ll me:-)

    How looks that?

    Mendy
    Ake Walker Gabriel Dalot
    Salah KDB Diaz Martinelli
    Kane Jesus

    4.0 - N.williams - Pereira - Greenwood

    1. Emiliano Sala
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Ake and walker no go for me

      1. Wild Rover
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        That’s why there are so many template teams like yours below.

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Because they are not nailed

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      D's weaker most drafts but it could pay-off with that front 6.

    3. NorCal Villan
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Defense is really weak

  13. Emiliano Sala
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Suggestions welcomed

    Ederson
    TAA Cancelo VVD James
    Salah Rashford Martinelli Neto
    Haaland Jesus

    1. Bartowski
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Is a great defence really worth that horrible midfield? So many standout options at 8m and everyone is ignoring them in the hope that defenders get attacking returns.

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I could get diaz + 5.0 instead of vvd and rashford
        But don’t like any of 5.0 defenders
        Vvd is by far a better option and rashford is a good value too.
        Can’t see the problem with midfielders

        1. Bartowski
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          You only on those last three because everyone else, who also have them, keep talking them up. It's like some sort of pyramid scheme.

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Canceo, TAA and James are first names on my team.

            1. Bartowski
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              That's fine I have similar, although not James, but do Ederson and VVD make those last three midfielders in your team worth it? Like I said you only think they're going to do well because everyone else who have them keep saying it.

              1. Emiliano Sala
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                I doubt martinelli does well. But other 2 are really good options with nice fixtures. Salah is the one I bought because of other people. I wanted KdB more

                1. Bartowski
                  • 14 Years
                  2 years, 1 month ago

                  Are Man U's and Wolves fixtures great? They were both absolute dross second half of last season.

                  Just look at the opening weekend. Brighton was going away to a resurgent Spurs and beating them 1-0 last season. Leeds have bought well and their manager has now had time to coach them in the summer. Both Leeds and Man U could easily lose to nil in those fixtures.

                  This isn't a pop at you but I think people have put blinkers on with regards to those particular mids and are all trying to convince each other they're going to excel.

                  1. Bartowski
                    • 14 Years
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    *Wolves could lose to nil.

            2. Bushwhacker
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              When Chelsea are conceding goals for fun that's odd.

      2. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Over the course of the season points per million is in defence.

        Hauls in the midfield tho.

        1. Bartowski
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Don't get me wrong I have two premiums in defence and two players I think can match their more expensive counterparts. Gambling on three players based on very small sample sizes and having no 8m mids at all seems insane to me.

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      you nearly there, now get Son or Kane

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Prefer Haaland.
        How is your team?

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Im set for BB1
          WC wk 2

          1. Emiliano Sala
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Want to show?

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Meslier
              TAA Trippier Digne
              Salah Martinelli Bruno(g) Maddison Gordon
              Martial Wilson

              Pickford Dalot Justin Martinelli

              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Sorry Kane over the other martineli

                1. Bartowski
                  • 14 Years
                  2 years, 1 month ago

                  Wow benching Kane is bold...

                  1. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    BB

              2. Emiliano Sala
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Awful imo
                Bruno G
                Maddison
                Gordon
                Pickford
                And 2 martinelli

                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  2 years, 1 month ago

                  😯

                  You do know Maddison has 20g and 18 a in last 2 seasons ?
                  Gordon handed no 10 shirt
                  Pickford could be any keeper @ 4.5m
                  Martinelli was praised as "on penalties in wk 1" after FPL opened...lol
                  Bruno g...got to love him

                  1. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    besides it's a 90 min team
                    Gives me another wk to pick my Gw 2 side with 90 mins of PL info/stats
                    All good

                  2. Emiliano Sala
                    • 8 Years
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    I suggest to change them

                    1. Christina.
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 1 month ago

                      Ok, give me alternatives to

                      Pickford
                      Maddison
                      Gordon

                      GW 1 only

                      Go!

                      1. Christina.
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 1 month ago

                        ,,,on second thoughts...Maddsion & Bruno (g) is not going anywhere for wk 1

                        Pickford and Gordon I am willing to change, no one else

                      2. Emiliano Sala
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 1 month ago

                        Bailey and De gea

                      3. Christina.
                        • 14 Years
                        2 years, 1 month ago

                        Cool - I own Dalot so I prefer Mendy over DDG

          2. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            My WC will be built around Kane, Haaland,Taa and Salah

            1. Emiliano Sala
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              I want KDB 🙁 think he can match salah

    3. Aribo Starmix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Like it...
      Almost identical to mine except I'm a wait and see on James atm... I suspect Chelsea defence will take a few weeks to bed in and James may even start as the right sided centre back until another is signed.
      I've gone Lloris/R.Dias instead of Ederson/James for that reason until my wildcard around GW6 or 7

  14. Bartowski
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Doubt Jamie Vardy is gonna get a good nights sleep for the foreseeable.

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Refinement not. His pizza deliveries don't end until 2.

      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        *definitely

    2. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Wife’s going to be hell to live with!

    3. Tomerick
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      At least we know he’ll have to stay top of his game for as long as possible to work off the legal bill

    4. The Tinkerman
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      He only improves when he gets pissed off. Another golden boot season incoming…

      1. NorCal Villan
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Good one 😎

  15. Modest Bob
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Vary, kane and Halland up top for first game anyone else?

    1. LangerznMash
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Kane, Vardy, Wilson

  16. RogDog_jimmy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    have come around to three premiums.
    i kind of like no triple ups to start so i have flexibility to move to anyone from any team.

    Meslier (4.0)
    TAA, Trippier, Gabriel, Jonny (Neco)
    Salah, Grealish, Neto (Andreas, Dasilva)
    Haaland, Kane, Jesus

    1. waltzingmatildas
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Looks decent!

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Not sold on Grealish or Meslier but it's not bad.

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Me neither to be honest.

        Grealish could become Martinelli and bank 1.0

        Or Jesus > 4.5 frees up enough for Dasilva & Grealish > Martinelli & 9.0

  17. F4L
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Bowen is a bit overpriced isn't it, 17 assists last season and if I'm looking at the stats right he should've got around 6; still add a few for FPL "assists", but shame he isn't priced @ 8 at the very least

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      *isn't he

    2. AC/DC AFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Plus 12 goals and over 200 points.

      1. zes
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        so only 29 attacking returns then 😀

        1. AC/DC AFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Indeed

      2. F4L
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        yeah but lose 6 or so assists and inevitably 3/4 bonus and his ppg comes down in line with Mount/Maddison etc

        would've been more fair to have him at 8, being .5 more just seems ott and prices him out

        i guess it depends if people think he can perform just that little bit better than last season to justify the price

    3. DelPiero10
        2 years, 1 month ago

        8.5m is a good price for him imo

      • Bushwhacker
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I think he's overpriced because I can't see West Ham repeating last year.

    4. waltzingmatildas
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      What do you reckon to this one guys?
      Ramsdale
      TAA Cancelo Trippier Dunk
      Salah Diaz Grealish Martinelli
      Kane Jesus
      (4.0 Neco Andreas 4.5)

      Thinking about
      A) Kane and Martinelli
      B) Son and Johnson

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Solid, how much is Grealish?

        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          He's 7....

          1. AC/DC AFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Fair enough. He could be decent.

      2. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        B!

        1. waltzingmatildas
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Hmm interesting. I keep going back and forth between the two!

      3. F4L
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        A gives you the chance to switch to Haaland, having Johnson locks in you to him/Solanke/Undav/Mateta price point and it's a bit meh, 6mil and under mids have better options if Martinelli doesn't work out, so A

        1. sirmorbach
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          On second thoughts... I think I agree with F4L because of Haaland.

        2. waltzingmatildas
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah good point. Still trying to find a Salah, KDB, Kane team I like!

    5. McNuttz
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      What y'all reckon

      Meslier
      Taa cancelo james dias
      Sancho salah martinelli neto
      Jesus kane

      Subs: Gazzaniga, bailey neco, greenwood

    6. lilmessipran
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Any good preseason fixtures tonight for the epl teams?

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Most of them seem to be over the weekend.

      2. Skonto Rigga
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea, Newcastle and Everton all playing this evening:

        https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/the-complete-guide-to-fpl-pre-season-2022-23/

      3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea, Everton and Newcastle all on this evening

      4. thattreblefeeling
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea the game to watch

        1. Stamford B
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I can’t seem to find it anywhere

      5. lilmessipran
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers all

    7. Slitherene
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      0.5 ITB

      Sanchez | Gazzaniga
      TAA Cancelo Dias White
      Salah Mount Coutinho Neto
      Haaland Jesus
      ¦ Neco Pereira Greenwood

      Where to upgrade?
      A) White -> Zinchenko
      B) Mount -> Diaz
      C) Other -> ->

      1. AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        B
        Or Coutinho

        1. Slitherene
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Can't find a replacement for Coutinho for 7.5.

    8. sirmorbach
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Consider the following lot:

      Ederson
      TAA, Cancelo, Trippier, Cash (Neco)
      Salah, Díaz, Bowen, Bruno Guimarães (Andreas)
      Haaland, Brennan Johnson (4.5)

      Would you downgrade Ederson to 4.5, B. Johnson to a bench fodder, and upgrade Andreas to Grealish, playing a 4-5-1 but having only Neco as sub? Or would you take this more conservative approach above?

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        1 playing bench is enough for me, so i don't mind two dead forwards.

        I think Bruno G is such a weird pick, no one really knows where he will play and Newcastle aren't great going forward.
        That's just my thoughts though.

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          With Shelvey's hamstring injury, Bruno is pretty nailed as the defensive midfielder with Joelinton and SLongstaff/Willock further forward.

    9. AD2110
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A) James + Grealish

      B) Walker + Mount

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        not a fan of Grealish, Foden is Pep's golden boy so B

    10. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Why hasn't there been a hot topic on how great Martinelli, Rashford, and Neto are for the coming season

        1. Stamford B
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I’ll get right on it

        2. R.C.
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Content quality has dropped. Used to have loads of hot topics during preseason. Barely anything this year

      • R.C.
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Say I don't want Neto long term and I have a 4-4-2 formation. There's a possibility I would want to get Martial & play 4-3-3

        Can I start with Andreas, bank the money and deploy it based on the formation I want?

        Essentially will help me save -4 or a FT

        1. DelPiero10
            2 years, 1 month ago

            You can do whatever you like

            1. R.C.
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Sure but is it optimal?

        2. How highly do you rate Martinelli, Rashford & Neto?
          Stamford B
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Martinelli, Rashford and Neto are ace. Discuss

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Hot topic!

            • Stamford B
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Martinelli, Neto, Rashford in that order for me. Neto I like but Wolves are really poor in attack. Rashford is not a good pick. Martinelli decent and worth a punt at the start.

              1. @persecuted_by_mods
                  2 years, 1 month ago

                  First 2 are in my team, rashford depends on Ronaldo leaving

                  1. Stamford B
                    • 3 Years
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    Definitely.

              2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 14 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Martinelli possibly
                Rashford potentially
                Neto not for me

                Wolves just don’t score enough goals and were dire last season

                Unless I see improvement he’s not in my team. People argue he’s cheap but maybe for a reason

              3. Bartowski
                • 14 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                You only came to this conclusion in the last two weeks.

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    2 years, 1 month ago

                    What do you mean? They are 3 highly rated players, Rashford has had 1 bad season

                    1. Bartowski
                      • 14 Years
                      2 years, 1 month ago

                      Everyone was trying to fit those three into their teams last season?

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          2 years, 1 month ago

                          Where did I say that was the case? :S

                          1. Bartowski
                            • 14 Years
                            2 years, 1 month ago

                            Where did I say you did? I've asked the question because if they were so highly rated everyone would have been getting them a few months ago.

                            1. Stamford B
                              • 3 Years
                              2 years, 1 month ago

                              I did have Martinelli, Neto was injured and I’ve never owned Rashford

                            2. @persecuted_by_mods
                                2 years, 1 month ago

                                You have such a weird way of debating. You seem to be on your high horse because people have players you don't like or rate, and have lumped us all into sheep category as if we independently can't see them as good choices

                                Last season is not this season, teams are different, tactics are different, it's fpl, prices are different. Rashford barely played after recovering from surgery, Neto barely played because of an ACL, Martinelli was in and out of the team

                                1. Bartowski
                                  • 14 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  Not on a high horse against anything other than group think and this weird template that's developed. When you first went on FPL to do a team were Neto, Rashford or Martinelli in your thoughts?

                                  I'm just trying to warn people off from taking some so many gambles simply because someone else who is already taking those gambles has convinced them to do so.

                                  No season is the same you're right but I don't remember any season where more than one gamble at the start has really paid. And in the most part those players that did were carrying over good form from the end of the previous season.

                                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      That's exactly being on your high horse mate, it's group think and weird to you. My team hasn't changed since the game opened, all 3 were in my team yes

                                      Maybe your chosen players are the gambles? And if you're warning people, aren't they going to do what you've convinced them to do?

                                      Fair enough but that boils down to what you consider a gamble, a nailed to start the season martinelli and oop fit Neto are hardly the biggest gambles, especially at the price

                                      Rashford is Ronaldo dependant

                                      1. Bartowski
                                        • 14 Years
                                        2 years, 1 month ago

                                        Yeah so I admitted I was on my high horse but stated it wasn't personal which is what you implied with the sheep reference. My chosen players are proven. And that's all I'm saying, people shouldn't gamble so much with their initial draft, it never works out as well as they'd hoped.

                                2. @persecuted_by_mods
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    So now can you answer how you came to the conclusion that anyone has come to the conclusion that these 3 highly rated young players are good, only in the last 2 weeks

                                    1. Bartowski
                                      • 14 Years
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      Okay, well you say I have a weird way of debating but I've read this sentence three times and I still can't work out what you're saying.

                                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                          2 years, 1 month ago

                                          How would you know athletico timbo (or anyone else) came to the conclusion in the past 2 weeks that these players were good

                                          1. Bartowski
                                            • 14 Years
                                            2 years, 1 month ago

                                            Because they've emerged as the template picks in the last two weeks. Did you have them as possibilities before you kept seeing their names popping up on here?

                                            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                                2 years, 1 month ago

                                                Yes I did, you're acting as if you know best and everyone is an idiot for having them

                                                While most people here probably do just follow template, you can't treat everyone like they do

                                              • Bartowski
                                                • 14 Years
                                                2 years, 1 month ago

                                                No one said you were an idiot, you take things way too personally. It's not going to be good for you during the season if you're getting this enraged at someone going against the template team on a fantasy football discussion site.

                                              • @persecuted_by_mods
                                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                                  None of this is in any way "enraging' or personal and I have absolutely 0 issues with anyone not sticking to the template

                                                  You are a frustrating chap though, will make sure to avoid in the future

                                                • SAUCY SALAH
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                                  LarryDuff vs TheBiffas part 2?!!

                                                • Bartowski
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                                  Great!

                                3. Stamford B
                                  • 3 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  What makes you think that?

                              • F4L
                                • 9 Years
                                2 years, 1 month ago

                                Rashford has the highest potential, 3 impressive seasons in a row cannot be forgotten about

                                Neto depends on Lage deciding that he doesn't want to bore Wolves fans to sleep anymore

                                Martinelli for me is a tough one because he'll just inevitably be rotated with ESR , Arteta seems to take after Pep in that regard and rotate even if a player is doing enough to justify a starting place.

                                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Agreed but Martinelli should be fine to start with, and then yeah it's down to him and his performances if he's not playing well he'll definitely be heavily rotated

                                2. @persecuted_by_mods
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Wolves are poor in attack but Neto strikes me as a player that can get points regardless, indeed he has done that in the past when Nuno was boring us to death. They don't score often but he's usually heavily involved in what they do score

                                  • RedLightning
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • Has Moderation Rights
                                    • 14 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Will Rashford outscore Bruno G, Ward-Prowse, Lingard and Trossard?

                                    1. RedLightning
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • Has Moderation Rights
                                      • 14 Years
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      ... and will he do so only if CR7 leaves?

                                    2. Andy_Social
                                      • 12 Years
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      I've never moved off Martinelli, but I had Neto for a long time until Jimenez's injury. I've now shifted to a differential in Lingard - I can see Forest playing to the strengths he demonstrated at West Ham.
                                      Rashord - I want to see how United, along with Chelsea perform in the combat of the PL this season before I dive in.

                                      1. Wild Rover
                                        • 14 Years
                                        2 years, 1 month ago

                                        Jimenez has been crap since his injury. Him being out makes Neto a better option imo, not worse.

                                        1. Andy_Social
                                          • 12 Years
                                          2 years, 1 month ago

                                          Quite possibly. I'd want to see them in PL action first. It's not like he hauls bigly - getting him in a week or two late won't be an issue. In fact, by that time it might be Podence or MGW who emerges.

                                  • Make FPL Casual Again
                                    • 6 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    In his good season c. 25 games, Neto scored c. 3 points per match

                                    Last season, Martinelli scored c. 3.8 ppm, very underwhelming

                                    Rashford has been very poor for a couple of seasons, and it looks like "the king" is back

                                    1. Make FPL Casual Again
                                      • 6 Years
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      Any decent defender 5.5 to 6m comfortably outscored them, unless there is a massive change in their performances

                                  • FP El Wonky
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 13 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    All very good players but I have none of them.
                                    I've started SalahLess with a 5 mid of Captain Son, Díaz, Saka, Lingard and B Guimaraes.

                                    Wish me luck. It looks oh on paper

                                3. Top Bin
                                  • 2 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  Please rate my team.

                                  Ramsdale
                                  AAA, CANCELO, JAMES.
                                  MARTINELLI, DIAZ, SALAH, MOUNT, MAREZ
                                  JESUS

                                  This gives me the option to bring in/rotate Mount with Haaland/Kane until price goes up of course.

                                  Should I start with either Kane/Haaland instead?

                                  1. Onana….where’s…
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    I’d start Kane until we see what happens with Chelsea as they seem like a bit of a mess

                                    Same for me with James….he’s gone in and out of my drafts

                                  2. Top Bin
                                    • 2 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Thanks

                                  3. Crunchie
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 6 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Make sure your AAA are fully charged up

                                4. Onana….where’s…
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  a) Grealish & Rashford
                                  b) Mahrez/Foden & Neto
                                  c) Something else

                                  In a midfield 3 with Salah (Kane up front wk 1)

                                  Correct answers only please 🙂

                                  1. I Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    B

                                5. GTJERSEY
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  Rashford or Sancho?

                                6. g40steve
                                  • 6 Years
                                  2 years, 1 month ago

                                  451 ?

                                  Alisson/Ederson
                                  Trent, Zinch, Walker, Tripps
                                  Salah, Son, Mahrez, Martineli, Maddison/Dias
                                  Jesus

                                  4, Neco, Taylor, Archer

                                  1. Onana….where’s…
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    2 years, 1 month ago

                                    Downgrade a keeper
                                    Find a way to get Cancelo

                                    Is Walker nailed (as much as anyone under Pep)?

                                    1. g40steve
                                      • 6 Years
                                      2 years, 1 month ago

                                      The keepers are either or ?

                                      Ederson & Diaz

                                      Alisson & Maddison

                                      1. Onana….where’s…
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        2 years, 1 month ago

                                        Sorry, having a moment!

                                        I’ve had a draft like it but ended up moving more to defence. But personal opinion….just think Cancelo is a good price for someone who looks good for 170+ points

                                        Otherwise looks good