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We’re delighted to reveal that the first set of Pre-Season Projections are now available to our Members. These can be found under the Projections section in the Members Area – we’ve supplied a season-long table, split by each position and, for a short-term view, have also provided a table which plots the Projections for just the opening six Gameweeks.

The Player Projections are, in many ways, our player predictions, offering a view of “projected” goals, assists, clean sheets etc for the season ahead. We also include Fantasy Premier League (FPL) points and bonus in the Projections, although no matter what Fantasy game you play, these will hopefully provide an invaluable guide.

We will be updating these Projections frequently: there will doubtless be tweaks required, particularly to the playing probabilities – in some cases almost immediately as the new signings alter our thinking – but we’ve decided to present our first set of data.

In case you missed our previous article, this season’s Projections are being created using the statistical model behind the Rate My Team website. This site was run by Chris Atkinson for the past two seasons, during which he achieved some superb results with the model. Chris is a statistician who specifically built his model to simulate and predict the returns of players in Fantasy Football and, particularly, the FPL. Having brought Chris on board to help us with our Projections, we’re pretty delighted with the end result and the power and flexibility of the model behind them.

The Projections are, of course, part of our Members offering. For more details on the benefits of Membership and how to join, click here.

Here’s a short FAQ with more details….

How do I use the Projections?
Crucially, these tables can be used as another opinion-former when comparing players. Every player is rated for goals, assists, clean sheets etc based on values created by the “Rate My Team” statistical model – the values returned for each player are the expected values in accordance with its calculations.

A good way of thinking about them is to consider them average values for each player. If the season was played out 500 times, the values you’ll find in these projection tables are the average that the model would expect the player to score.

One of the most useful aspects of the Projections is the value column. You can sort by this to find the best value (Points Per FPL Million) delivered by players in each position.

With tables for the season and the opening six Gameweeks, you can get a view on long-term and short-term returns and value.

What are these values based on?
The “Rate My Team” statistical model is a complex beast – it uses historical data stretching back a number of seasons and, of course, specific player and team data. When generating the player values the model looks at the specific fixture in each Gameweek, assessing the strength of both teams before calculating the likely team goals scored and how these goals will translate to specific player stats. The probability of a player taking part in the match is also a key ingredient. Factors such as rotation, injuries, suspensions and absence due to the African Cup of Nations are also simulated by the model.

Why do the stats show decimal places?
The values returned by the model are not exact values – they are not figures that state what a player will score for a particular stat but a value which indicates their expected return. As such, the model can be more accurate when producing data with decimal places.

Why has Van Persie got fewer goals etc?
There’s no denying Robin Van Persie enjoyed an incredible season last term. For starters, he avoided injury and was almost ever present – the first time he has achieved or even came close to this in his entire Premier League career. Secondly, Van Persie was, without doubt, the key attacking force in the Arsenal lineup – the summer acquisitions of Olivier Giroud and Lukas Podolski suggest this may not be the case any longer. Added to this, of course, there is uncertainty surrounding the Dutchman’s future at the club.

Why are there fewer goals across the board?
The model used historical data to create an average goals per game value for the season. Although we’ve seen a trend that has seen the goal count soar in recent campaigns, the model has been more cautious and is currently expecting less goals for teams, with fewer big scorelines and teams that are likely to leak large amounts of goals. In a nutshell, the model doesn’t think that there will be a Blackpool or Wolves around as whipping boys next season.

When will these Projections be updated?
We’ll most likely update these every day up until the season kick-off. As we get more data on likely first choice lineups and as the transfer market moves to cast doubt over starters, we will adapt and tweak the model accordingly. It’s highly likely that, over the space of a few days, you’ll notice significant movement within the data for certain players.

There are still lots of issues to be resolved that will have a marked affect on the Projections – notably the striker situations at Arsenal and Spurs.

We’ll keep you posted on any major changes and movements in the Projections as and when they are made. Full Projection analysis articles for members will be following next week.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Obi Wan Elokobi
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is anyone considering De Guzman? 2 goals in 2 games in friendlies.Is only 6.0m plus plays for Swansea who have fairly decent fixtures for 8 weeks.

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Find the 0.5 for Michu

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      1. NED KELLY
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Is michu good then ?

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    2. preseasonblues
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Think you have a similar conundrum to the McClean/ Larsson argument. Player that offers more from open play (Michu) vs a set piece player (De Guzman). (Although Sinclair will be on pens). Would go for Michu if you can find that 0.5.

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    3. Royal5
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      If Allen stays will De Guzman be nailed on?

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  2. preseasonblues
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Any comments on my team would be greatly appreciated. Think I am pretty set on my defence, rotates well and all that, but could be persuaded otherwise.

    DDG, Federici
    A Cole, Lescott, Wilson, Tomkins, Fabio
    Bale, Ramires, Yaya, Noble, Maloney
    Torres, Aguero, Graham

    Cheers in advance.

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      How about giving us the correct team to review?

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Just kidding brave man with yaya and Ramirez - might work

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        1. preseasonblues
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Think Yaya is great value at 8.0, and Rambo is just there for the DGW I think. Need to find some Utd coverage from somewhere.

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  3. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Thanks lads for answering on the previous page but... Oh f.ck it everyone are watching the Olympics

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  4. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Guthrie scores

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      (c) 😎

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  5. In Tommy We Trust
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Open ceremony looks like something from lord of rings. Half expecting a couple of hobbits to pop out.

    Off to watch it anyway.

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  6. Oliver Adamkiewicz
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT out of 10

    Jassk - Begovic

    Fabio - Harte - Ivanovic - Clichy - Rafael

    Maloney - Hazard - Kagawa - Silva - Morrison

    Pog - Aguero - Torres

    Any improvements anywhere?

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    1. Pinoche
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Nice team.

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    2. Revsfc2013
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Man Utd midfielders are a gamble even well into the season when patterns can be picked up, so a first draft man u mid is a big gamble even if he becomes a regular, which seems like an oxymoron at man u. Don't get me wrong, like any man u player he'll shine for quite a while. Problem is, and this is the key part, is when will he find that form. Seems so random there.

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      1. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Also not a fan of Torres, I don't care if sturridge will be fatigued and Lukaku is new, he'll find a way to choke.

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      2. Oliver Adamkiewicz
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Massive Utd fan = watched every min of Sinshi so far, gonna take the league by storm!!! Also he is playing right behind the striker - fancy him to hit double figures in goals and assists!

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    3. Paul
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      that team is not possible!!!....post something real to be rated!!!!

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      1. Oliver Adamkiewicz
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        why is it not possible you tool???

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      2. Oliver Adamkiewicz
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Paul - that team is not possible!!!….post something real to be rated!!!!

        Hope you realise that is Rav not James. Rav gonna take the league by storm - mark my words!

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        1. Paul
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          my bad then didn't realize it was not James!!!!..... 😛
          nice team except what you gonna do about Pog after DGW???

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  7. False no.2
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I think one of the most intriguing FPL sub-plots this year is how Villa will perform. Now being free from the shackles of a dull, defensive regime, can Lambert get peeps like N'Zog and Bent to produce the kind of attacking returns McLeish could only dream of?

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  8. Revsfc2013
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Al-Habsi/Federici
    Gorkss/WIlliams/Skrtel/Cole/Tomkins
    Yaya/Bale/Noble/Hazard/Taarabt
    Rooney/Graham/Jelavic

    Only questions I have on defenders are the cheap ones nailed on and do any swans fans think they will defend as well without Rodgers?

    I'm happy with the forward line but I feel totally lost on midfielders, anyone know where I can find a list of value midfielders because I hate Taarabt's prospects GW3-5 and I'd rather have Silva over Yaya, but I don't know the value midfielders besides Noble (considering his fixtures and I believe he takes the spot-kicks or free-kicks)

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    1. Revsfc2013
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      That last part is awkward, I mean to say I want to kill two birds with one stone by finding some value to replace Taarabt and upgrade yaya to silva.

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  9. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    tommytour RM first choice? looking forward to this 😀

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  10. NED KELLY
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Whos going to light this tourch then ? ?

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    1. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      beckham of course

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  11. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is this the stadium West ham are getting? Jammy bastards!

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  12. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    That kid clearly has no balls...

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  13. Keane There Dunne That
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Who will carry the torch

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      clearly it'll be me 😉

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      1. Keane There Dunne That
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        U better get to d stadium quick then 😀

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          don't worry i'm only coming from the west coast of america 😉

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Garry Glitter...

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    3. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Jesus

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  14. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    If the ceremony is a representation of Britain, then surely people like this will appear...

    http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558062_450954141605423_113647615_n.jpg

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  15. arkashka
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT please

    Vorm, Federici
    Terry (-> Lescott for GW3), Ivanovic, Cueller, Demel, Clyne
    Dempsey, Bale, Allen, Noble, Maloney
    Graham, Aguero, Torres (-> Rooney for GW2)

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  16. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I thought this was a Danny Boyle production, where are the Scottish drug addicts and zombies?!!

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      abe lincon zombies ftw

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Here they come...

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  17. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is it me or is this ceremony a joke ............... 🙁

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Compared to Beijing it makes London look pathetic.

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        it was always going to be an aldi version of beijing 😉

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      2. Fray Bentos
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Beijing was boring

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        1. Bigo1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Watching it in3D and makes it much much better to be fair. Still not worth the 81m...

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    2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Seems like an intro to Eurovision !!

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Half these dancers/singers look Eastern European anyway!

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    3. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I've gone back to the darts.

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      1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Who`s winning atm ??

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        1. Holy See
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Wade up 3-2 on Van Gerwen, Taylor beat Hamilton, quelle surprise.

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    4. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Stick with it.

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  18. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Steven Taylor scores

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  19. Fantis888
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard. Bale, Silva, Walcott have to get rid of one for a 4.5 milion, which ?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      walcott

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +millions

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    2. Pinoche
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Walcott.

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    3. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      walcott out guthrie in

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    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Walc.

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    5. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Walcott. Walcott. Walcott.

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  20. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Loved the bit before the actual countdown when the camera was dashing along! Some great scenes

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    1. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yeah, this industrial dancing is a bit naff though

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  21. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Did anyone watch Hazard vs England?

    I think his Ego is bigger than his ability. Time will tell, but I'm not convinced he's going to hit the ground running in the Premier League.

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      well if he does naff all against wig/rea in out

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        *im

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm going off the idea of Hazard. I doubt he'll even start all 3 games in GW1 and 2.

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      1. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        that's a good point considering the other new signings.

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      2. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        With the amount of depth Chelsea have in midfield, it's unlikely any of them will come out with 180 minutes....

        Btw Duffman, are you giving up right to Standard Liege in the Uefa Council leagues, I'm guessing you are, right?

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Well I thought I had to keep Standard Liege? I'd like to go for another team if I'm allowed.

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  22. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    defenders are ivanovic, lescott, hangeland, fabio, cueller

    need a gk combo for 9.5 or less any suggestions?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      foster/bego or schwarzer/alhabsi

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        sorry the latter is 10m

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  23. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I'm lagging behind on iplayer, only upto the choirs singing.

    But so far, I have to say, its been shit.

    Will report back later with my in depth analysis when its finished.

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah. It was pretty rubbish.

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  24. Revsfc2013
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    1. Tomkins and Gorkss nailed on?
    2. Williams (swansea) to do as well defending without Rodgers?
    3. Noble best whm mid choice? any care disagree?
    4. Value midfielder option alternative for Taarabt? I hate his GW3-5.
    5. Worth cost-cutting to upgrade Yaya to silva?

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    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      If Vorms still there next season they'll do just as good if not better

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  25. chadbeachy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT please:

    (I obviously have the week 1 matchups in mind)

    Cech , Rudd

    Terry , A Cole , Phil Jones , Simpson , Harte

    Silva , Yaya , Pienaar , Noble , Britton

    RVP , Jelavic , Pogrebnyak

    Is Pienaar still considered a risk?

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm not really a fan of the Silva/Yaya, but I'm guessing you switch one after GW1.
      Harte is a doubt, as far as I know. Jones, too.

      I like the idea of one biggie up top, I've been playing around with the same thing.

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You'll, of course, want to keep tabs on RVP & Terry, as well.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      more importantly what is your grav? 😉

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I think he's removing a very large bratwurst* from his mouth.

        *At least I hope that's a bratwurst ...

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          i couldnt tell if it a he or she 😕

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  26. Cornelius
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Curious to know how close the projections were for last season?

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  27. Oliver Adamkiewicz
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT out of 10

    Jassk – Begovic

    Fabio – Harte – Ivanovic – Clichy – Rafael

    Maloney – Hazard – Kagawa – Silva – Morrison

    Pog – Aguero – Torres

    Any improvements anywhere?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      id actually give that a solid 7.5

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Since there a tiny bit of Olympic mystery about Rafael, I'd downgrade and apply the dosh to Maloney/Morrison, unless you plan on a 4-3-3.

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      1. Oliver Adamkiewicz
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        good shout - rafa is more of a long term option.

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    3. Oliver Adamkiewicz
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Great team! 11/10

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  28. Revsfc2013
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Never a fan of doubling up on midfield unless form suggests otherwise (VDV/Bale form of two years ago comes to mind)

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      ill have bale for the start and instead of going for torres to roo gw2 im swaping hazard for siggy

      siggy/bale gw2 ftw

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      1. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        my bad haha i mean to reply to another comment.

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          and what am i supposed to do now?..oh yeah the jokes on me..thanks 😉

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      2. Bigo1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Indeed, having two attacking spuds players seem a must from gw2. I hope doing Torres to Ade after gw1 (or whover they sign as long as he is 10m or less). Bale from gw1 to anticipate a price rise

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  29. Fray Bentos
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Well I for one liked it.bloody good show, what what

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I liked the rings at the end.

      That was about it.

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    2. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      the rings were pretty impressive, the rest was different but nothing spectacular

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  30. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone notice the 1st and 5th ring weren't interlinking to the 2nd and 4th?

    Middle 3 were but the 1st and 5th weren't...

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