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We’re delighted to reveal that the first set of Pre-Season Projections are now available to our Members. These can be found under the Projections section in the Members Area – we’ve supplied a season-long table, split by each position and, for a short-term view, have also provided a table which plots the Projections for just the opening six Gameweeks.

The Player Projections are, in many ways, our player predictions, offering a view of “projected” goals, assists, clean sheets etc for the season ahead. We also include Fantasy Premier League (FPL) points and bonus in the Projections, although no matter what Fantasy game you play, these will hopefully provide an invaluable guide.

We will be updating these Projections frequently: there will doubtless be tweaks required, particularly to the playing probabilities – in some cases almost immediately as the new signings alter our thinking – but we’ve decided to present our first set of data.

In case you missed our previous article, this season’s Projections are being created using the statistical model behind the Rate My Team website. This site was run by Chris Atkinson for the past two seasons, during which he achieved some superb results with the model. Chris is a statistician who specifically built his model to simulate and predict the returns of players in Fantasy Football and, particularly, the FPL. Having brought Chris on board to help us with our Projections, we’re pretty delighted with the end result and the power and flexibility of the model behind them.

The Projections are, of course, part of our Members offering. For more details on the benefits of Membership and how to join, click here.

Here’s a short FAQ with more details….

How do I use the Projections?
Crucially, these tables can be used as another opinion-former when comparing players. Every player is rated for goals, assists, clean sheets etc based on values created by the “Rate My Team” statistical model – the values returned for each player are the expected values in accordance with its calculations.

A good way of thinking about them is to consider them average values for each player. If the season was played out 500 times, the values you’ll find in these projection tables are the average that the model would expect the player to score.

One of the most useful aspects of the Projections is the value column. You can sort by this to find the best value (Points Per FPL Million) delivered by players in each position.

With tables for the season and the opening six Gameweeks, you can get a view on long-term and short-term returns and value.

What are these values based on?
The “Rate My Team” statistical model is a complex beast – it uses historical data stretching back a number of seasons and, of course, specific player and team data. When generating the player values the model looks at the specific fixture in each Gameweek, assessing the strength of both teams before calculating the likely team goals scored and how these goals will translate to specific player stats. The probability of a player taking part in the match is also a key ingredient. Factors such as rotation, injuries, suspensions and absence due to the African Cup of Nations are also simulated by the model.

Why do the stats show decimal places?
The values returned by the model are not exact values – they are not figures that state what a player will score for a particular stat but a value which indicates their expected return. As such, the model can be more accurate when producing data with decimal places.

Why has Van Persie got fewer goals etc?
There’s no denying Robin Van Persie enjoyed an incredible season last term. For starters, he avoided injury and was almost ever present – the first time he has achieved or even came close to this in his entire Premier League career. Secondly, Van Persie was, without doubt, the key attacking force in the Arsenal lineup – the summer acquisitions of Olivier Giroud and Lukas Podolski suggest this may not be the case any longer. Added to this, of course, there is uncertainty surrounding the Dutchman’s future at the club.

Why are there fewer goals across the board?
The model used historical data to create an average goals per game value for the season. Although we’ve seen a trend that has seen the goal count soar in recent campaigns, the model has been more cautious and is currently expecting less goals for teams, with fewer big scorelines and teams that are likely to leak large amounts of goals. In a nutshell, the model doesn’t think that there will be a Blackpool or Wolves around as whipping boys next season.

When will these Projections be updated?
We’ll most likely update these every day up until the season kick-off. As we get more data on likely first choice lineups and as the transfer market moves to cast doubt over starters, we will adapt and tweak the model accordingly. It’s highly likely that, over the space of a few days, you’ll notice significant movement within the data for certain players.

There are still lots of issues to be resolved that will have a marked affect on the Projections – notably the striker situations at Arsenal and Spurs.

We’ll keep you posted on any major changes and movements in the Projections as and when they are made. Full Projection analysis articles for members will be following next week.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    After watching that it dies make me lol when I think of West Ham/Leyton Orient trying to fill that stadium!

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      room for two pitches in there?

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
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        Ha, even together they couldnt!

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    2. Paul Psychic Octopus
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      they might just about be able to fill the hill

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  2. Parm
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    Well that was British...100% British...

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    1. tangtastic
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      This is a fact. A real one.

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    2. maglia rosa
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      agreed 😛

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    3. Screaming Midget
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      It was a beefy performance

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    4. DLL18
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      and followed by that most British thing... the weather.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Thought you meant McCartney!

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  3. Optimus.
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    TOMORROWLAND LIVE FTW

    http://www.youtube.com/tomorrowland?feature=inp-lt-tuk

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  4. Gaz Downright
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    the quick and the dead starting

    time to go to bed?

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    1. tangtastic
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      Sharon Stone was still hot when she made that. Watchable.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Sharon Stone is still hit! Yeah, I said it! 😉

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          *hot

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    2. little_wizard123
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      good film!

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  5. @Bryan
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Away from that Olympics Narf, is Rodallega (Remember that guy?) expected to start for Fulham? 😀

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    1. Oz lotto
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Petric better option. If lukaku goes there will be even more doubt

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      1. @Bryan
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Rodallege has done it before in the premier league though 🙂

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  6. Jinswick
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Personal goal for this year is to not be so adverse to hits. Only took 3 last year and I think more gambles are required to really make a run at this thing. Thoughts on this planned hit in GW2?

    Mignolet, Federici
    Ivanovic, Clichy, Rangel, Fonte, McCartney
    Dempsey, Lampard, Taarabt, Noble, Maloney
    Aguero, Tevez, Torres

    GW2:
    a) If Tevez performs and looks like being nailed on, Aguero & Torres -> Rooney & Ade
    b) If Tevez doesn't perform/start, and Aguero outperforms him, Tevez & Torres -> Rooney & Graham

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      It's only a game. Gambles makes it more fun

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    2. Parm
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Jinswich, you signing up?

      http://uefacouncil.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/registration/

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  7. 20LEGEND
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    its bloody raining tomorrow

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    1. Optimus.
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      hello marty..any good bets to place?

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  8. khanvict
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    rmt plz thanx

    de Gea (Friedel)
    Lescott Cole A Fabio (Tierney)Stam
    Yaya Toure Kagawa Pienaar Ramires (Britton)
    Aguero Graham Torres

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Downgrade one of the keepers and upgrade Britton

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    2. Revsfc2013
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'll get Torres when Chelsea sign an EMT to follow Torres when he starts choking.

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    3. spiritof82
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Definitely change at least one keeper and pair with a suitable 4.5 option.

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  9. SH1M1
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    A
    Kaboul
    McClean
    Pienaar(Assuming He Joins Everton)
    Tevez

    Or

    B
    Cuellar
    Maloney
    McClean/Pienaar
    Aguero

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      B. Kaboul may not start due to Dawson being made captain. Sunderland are very solid defensively at home, AVB will make Spurs leaky at the back. I would punt on Tevez and get Siggy for McClean/Pienaar.

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      1. SH1M1
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        i already got bale tho 😮

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Ahh, B is solid then. Just be wary Aguero may not be as nailed on as people think and is just as likely as Tevez to get subbed off at 59 mins imo.

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          1. SH1M1
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            ok cheers xD

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      2. The Mousa is Loosa
        • 14 Years
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        Dawson hasn't been confirmed captain though

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  10. Screaming Midget
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Amandeep Bhangu - sounds like a Lancashire lass, but either way... she's get it!

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    1. My Name don't Mata
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      If you look at the name 'A man deep bang you'' haha. She gets it alri

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  11. Demel
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Has anyone else got Rangle in their team? His last season stats were quite frankly amazing, low ownership and great fixtures. Am I missing something (apart from second season syndrome and new manager; worth the risk and easy to transfer out if things go wrong).

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    1. Matt_
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      How expensive is he? Don't have FPL open.

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      1. Parm
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        £5.0m

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        1. Matt_
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          Darn, I would take him if he was 4.5. for 5 mil I would rather have Hangeland.

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    2. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Amazing? Defensively all of the Swans returns last season were impressive. Wouldnt call 4 assists amazing tho. Worth a punt definately but ive gone for Hangeland instead - big goal threat (even tho he didnt score last season had lots of efforts) and very good fixtures. Also have newcastle defence at same price - stronger defensively and Santon and Saylor have very good atttacking threat

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Have you done the stats comparison for Rangel vs Hangelaand? Surprising results!!

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Nope, but I would think Rangel would come out top in most aspects except goal threat? Still prefer Hangeland. Rangel was virtually a winger most games and still only managed 4 assists.

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          1. Jinswick
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            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Of the 10 key stats, Rangel won 9-0 over the last 6 matches, and 8-1 over the whole season.

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          2. Jinswick
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            • 15 Years
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            Oh and Rangel has double the goal threat of Hangelaand according to the stats.

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            1. Round and Round
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Really? Thats intersting, watched most games/highlights last season and wouldnt say Rangel offered any goal threat at all.

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              1. Jinswick
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Over the season, goal attempts:

                Rangel 25 - 13 Hangelaand

                Surprising eh! That said, 0 goals from 25 attempts is pretty Suarezish

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    3. Jinswick
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      He's in my team. His stats were incredible last season and I'm expecting much better attacking returns this season.

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  12. ...---...
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone playing the Sky game? Any VFM tips for my works league? Cheers.

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Lucas and Song. Both should get 4 bonus points a game. Lucas very cheap and may pick up a few MOTM awards too, Song averagely priced but decent offensively.

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  13. Pete Campbell
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    anyone thinking about Scholes?

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    1. Optimus.
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      *must resist a giggs joke

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    1. Specialist
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      lul

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  15. Davido989
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    Reina
    Arbeloa Skrtel Agger Enrique
    Lucas Alonso
    Suarez Gerrard NewSigning
    Torres

    What a team we could've had..

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      reina
      johnson skrtel agger enrique
      lucas allen
      suarez gerard dempsey
      borini

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      1. Davido989
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        Yeah, we'll probably line up like this.

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    2. Round and Round
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Dont forget Mascherano!

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      1. Davido989
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        Omg! I completely forget Mascherano! Ermm, he could move to CB with Agger shifting to LB.

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    1. Optimus.
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      yeah old..but yeah that shit dont age 😉

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  16. Mick
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    Vote Team 1 or Team 2

    Team 1

    De Gea

    A.Cole Clichy Hangeland

    Chamerlain Ben Arfa Nasri Mata

    Torres Petric Jelavic

    Team 2

    De Gea

    A.Cole K.Walker Tomkins

    Ben Arfa Dempsey Dyer Mata

    Rooney Torres Pogrebniak

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    1. Mick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Please remember to vote for potential fantasy points and not the best rounded team 😉

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    2. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'll vote team 1. What's the number to phone?

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      1. Alan The Llama
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I said 1. By 1, I actually meant 2.

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    3. SH1M1
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Team 2 By Far Imo

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  17. Chinchinnati
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Amazing Opening ceremony for the start of the Olympics, had some clarify of FFS team selection during McCartney murdering "Hey Jude"........so please RMT;

    Fed - (Beggers)

    A Cole - Ivanovich - STaylor - (Cuellar) - (Clark)

    Lamps (c) - Yoyo - Pienaar - Taarabt - (Maloney)

    Shrek - Kun - Graham

    No spondolicks left in the piggybank - any improvements or suggestions?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Solid.
      Dont like Yaya myself - think there many better picks for the price. Also Hangeland over STaylor until week 5 at least.

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    2. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think based on current ability, our best possible team if we kept our stars would be:

      De Gea
      Pique Vidic Ferdinand
      Valencia Evra
      Carrick Scholes
      Nani Ronaldo
      Rooney

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      1. Round and Round
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Strange reply fail there.

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      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Fair enough, in a 3-4-2-1?

        Fergie wouldn't like that would he 😉

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yup. No more so than ur 3-2-3-2 😉
          See below for a slightly improved version

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  18. Otis Kay
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    A) rFerdinand + Guthrie + 0.5

    B) Rafael + Dyer

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  19. Round and Round
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Reina
    GJ Skertl Agger Enrique
    Lucas Mascherano
    Alonso
    Gerrard
    Torres Suarez

    GJ over Arbeola for me.
    Alonso in the Pirlo role.

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Title winning team.

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      1. Round and Round
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I should hate Liverpool, and I did about 5 or so years ago. Especially because my best mate was a Pool fan. Last few years I have warmed to them however, mainly due to my hate moving to Chelsea. Gerrard is the stuff legends are made of.

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      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        De Gea
        Vidic, Pique, Ferdinand
        Carrick, Scholes
        Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs.
        Tevez, Berbatov

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Based on current ability, would have Nani over Giggs there. My lineup would be:

          5-2-3
          De Gea
          Pique Vidic Ferdinand
          Valencia/Rafael Carrick Scholes Evra
          Ronaldo Rooney/Tevez Nani/Rooney

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          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Looks like a promising fantasy team 😉

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          2. Round and Round
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Tbh considering the circumstances of their departures, the only one im disappointed with is Pique, but even then we have ample quality CBs.

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            1. Parm
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              • 14 Years
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              What about Rossi?

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  20. Football is Life
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    Torres seems to be in everyone's team. Has he even done a training session since his hissy-fit at the champs league where he publicly attacked Chelsea?

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    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      top scorer in euros

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      1. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        with two goals against Ireland. Don't believe the hype.

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    2. Round and Round
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Think I remember him having talks with Abramovich and being assured of his starting place this season. Plus dgw. Plus a load of talent behind him now. If you ever took a punt on him before, dont let the past haunt you 😉

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  21. Gimli son of Gloin
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Off to Tenerife in the morning for seven days on a lads holiday, should be good craic.
    Anybody been there? Anything I should do/go etc..

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      dont be a fool wrap your tool 😉 wise words

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    2. SH1M1
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      nice, went there 2 years ago, was gr8 xD

      http://www.spain-tenerife.com/UK/places.html

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    3. Allnatt
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Wow, holiday in Tenerife! I could only dream of.

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    4. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Nice. Very touristy so plenty of things to do in the resorts and on trips from the hotel. Great beaches.

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  22. Parm
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I just can stop tinkering my defence...

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pretty settled on mine. Hasnt changed for a whole day! Care to share your current version?

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        ATM...

        Friedel, Federici.
        Terry, Clichy, Cuellar, Demel, Clyne.
        Bale, Hazard, Taarabt, Noble, Maloney.
        Rooney, Aguero, Graham.

        Terry to Vidic GW2.

        Not too happy with the defence at the minute though...

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    2. Hubert
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Stop it or you'll go blind 😀

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  23. Gimli son of Gloin
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    Was just thinking, if Terry gets a ban and misses games, both Luiz and Cahill will be nailed on centre back options for Chelsea for DGW, at 6.5 instead of 7, for those thinking of tripling on Chelsea defence

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Dont forget Ivanovic's preferred position is CB. Ferreira may get a run out with Ivanovic coming into the middle for one of them

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      1. Gimli son of Gloin
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Ah, surely Ferreira wont take precedence over two relatively new signings whom Chelsea surely see as their two future centre backs post Terry?

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Not for the season no. But considering Terry will be banned for a while and is banned for the Super Cup, very likely that he will play a game or 2 so they dont get too tired. 3 games in 6 days is a big ask.

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          1. Gimli son of Gloin
            • 13 Years
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            Hmm, good point. Still, triple Chelsea defence is the way to go, no confidence in any individual member of the attack. A.Cole, Ivan, Terry is the plan at the moment,

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  24. Football is Life
    • 14 Years
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    Is Taarabt part of Ramadan? and if so when is it?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Lol, poorly phrased, but yes he is fasting for Ramadan i believe. Ends on 17th/18th.

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  25. Specialist
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    For those considering Guthrie, he scored for us today and was the only one to play 90 minutes. Looking a more attractive fantasy option now in my opinion..

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      thanks

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  26. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Already started. There'll only be 1/2 during the EPL season.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I suppose that's a reply fail 😉

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  27. Gimli son of Gloin
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    This whole Terry thing is a joke. Hyped up by Murdoch to sell papers and the FA won't shut him up because they need him. Ridiculous. And I'm a Tottenham man

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  28. The Mousa is Loosa
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Who'd you rather have: Noble or Maloney? Thinking of bringing in Guthrie for one due to his price tag.

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  29. DVassell
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I've achieved FPL symmetry, RMT please:

    Friedel

    Rafael_________Terry_________Fabio

    Barfa_____Pienaar_Lampard____Nasri

    Rooney________Bent_________Tevez

    Subs:

    Cerny____Guthrie___Tierney___Gorkss

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    1. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Different, nice. Weak bench but could do well.

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    2. Davido989
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      Let's just say Mancini gets bored and starts rotating for fun. Your bench will screw you over.

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      1. DVassell
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        gorkss for demel then

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