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There’s one more Gameweek 17 match to go before Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers get their sole rest day ahead of back-to-back Gameweeks.

Leeds United v Manchester City is the fixture in question, with kick-off at Elland Road set for 20:00 GMT.

It’s almost entirely about the visitors from an FPL perspective, with only one member of Leeds’ starting XI, bench fodder’s Sam Greenwood, owned by more than 2% of Fantasy managers.

Five City assets boast double-digit ownerships, by contrast, but two of them, Joao Cancelo and Phil Foden, aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s line-up tonight.

In fact, only two of the eight City players who reached the quarter-finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup with Portugal or England make the team this evening.

It’s John Stones and Jack Grealish who get the nod, with Kyle Walker, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Cancelo and the newly portly Kalvin Phillips on the bench.

Ruben Dias is injured.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola has largely gone with the same team that defeated Liverpool in the EFL Cup last Thursday, making three changes: Stefan Ortega, Aymeric Laporte and Cole Palmer are replaced by Ederson, Stones and Grealish.

Jesse Marsch has got a number of his injured and ill players back this evening, including Illan Meslier and Rodrigo.

Patrick Bamford misses out and Crysencio Summerville, who like Rodrigo has scored three goals in as many league matches, is only on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 17 LINE-UPS

Leeds United XI: Meslier, Kristensen, Struijk, Koch, Cooper, Forshaw, Roca, Greenwood, Gnonto, Rodrigo, Aaronson.

Subs: Robles, Ayling, Firpo, Llorente, Gyabi, Klich, Summerville, Harrison, Gelhardt.

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Akanji, Stones, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Grealish, Haaland, Mahrez.

Subs: Ortega, Walker, Phillips, Cancelo, Laporte, Bernardo, Gomez, Foden, Palmer.


GAMEWEEK 17 RESULTS SO FAR

Manchester United3 – 0Nottingham Forest
Chelsea2 – 0Bournemouth
Arsenal3 – 1West Ham United
Aston Villa1 – 3Liverpool
Southampton1 – 3Brighton and Hove Albion
Leicester City0 – 3Newcastle United
Everton1 – 2Wolverhampton Wanderers
Crystal Palace0 – 3Fulham
Brentford2 – 2Tottenham Hotspur

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  1. Gudjohnsen
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Schar or Botman?

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Schar greater goal threat

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Botman

    3. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      The cheaper one

  2. WVA
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    KDB YC any second

  3. TomSaints
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    22 shots and 9 on target resulting in only 3 goals is actually pretty awful

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Nunez-like figures

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Generous

  4. WVA
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Greenwood YC

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Good good now he's outscoring KDB by only 2 points

  5. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Trippier likely to rise? Need to get him for James

  6. Ruinenlust
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    KDB useless

  7. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Cancello came on 68th minute. Leeds scored 73rd min.....how has he still got 1pt....??

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Only conceded 1 goal

    2. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Why wouldn't he??

    3. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Because they haven't conceded twice

    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Come on man, you've been playing for 7 years.

  8. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Please Kevin even an assist

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Begging it

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      You shouldn’t beg

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Ok. Kevin get an assist or I’ll bust your lip!

    3. WVA
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      I can say it now

      Told you

      1. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        🙂

  9. WVA
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Mahrez off Palmer on

  10. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Mahrez was typically slick tonite

  11. Not again Shirley
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Walker going to come on?

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      No as City made 3 different subs

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        5 subs these days?

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 12 months ago

          Only got 3 times u can do them though i think

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 12 months ago

          Three sub "events", so too late.

  12. RyanMK
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    With James out, start White or sell James for Shaw?

  13. space mercenary
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Doesn't matter how many Haaland gets when everyone has captained him. The rank-changers in this game will be the lack of City clean sheet and whether KDB and Foden do anything. There's still an outside chance of Cancelo returning too but looking pretty negative for City assets tonight overall.

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      At least GW19 many will go for a DGW player as captain and Haaland will be a differential of sorts

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      C’mon Haaland!

  14. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    James to? 6.1 is the budget.

    1. space mercenary
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Robbo if you are feeling lucky. Botman if you can use the cash elsewhere.

      1. Gudjohnsen
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Robbo is 6.8

  15. The Knights Template
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Gelhardt of Riviera close

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Just watched blood origin too.

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        I'm sorry u had to go through that. I'm thinking of starting a support group for people who lost precious time of their lives on it

  16. thegaffer82
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    I hate Pep. I really do. FPL mangers nightmare, he really is.
    I’m going to step away from FPL for a few days before I sell Foden & Cancelo for a hit and regret it

    1. space mercenary
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      I got rid of Cancelo over the break and brought in Akanji. Too much nailed value in Arsenal mids and Salah to accommodate KDB in my opinion.

    2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      go ask mummy to change your diaper

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Put a bit of talc on your botty wotty

      2. thegaffer82
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Yeah, okay.

        Weirdo

        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 12 months ago

          I thought your outburst was like that of a toddler.

          1. thegaffer82
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 12 months ago

            Do me a favour and don’t talk to me freak.
            You are embarrassing!

            1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 12 months ago

              Lol ok Gaffer82. Crying over Pep roulette.

              Calling me a freak is pretty rich baby.

  17. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Just 3 points this evening. Disappointing from KDB and Cancelo since they were swapped in for Salah and Robertson.

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Similar here. Trying to not knee jerk though, I’m going to give them another shot. Have Wilson and James to worry about anyway.

  18. Gudjohnsen
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    I guess I dodged a bullet tonight as I only have Cancelo and Haaland?

  19. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Cole Palmer has a Luke Chadwick vibe about him

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Looks like a minstrel to me.

  20. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Bruno & Greenwood to Rashford & Mitrovic (-4)?

    Would leave money ITB for Ward to Kepa too

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Isn't Greenwood in prison?

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Not all Greenwoods

    2. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Would leave this team with 0.5ITB:

      Ward
      Cancelo | Trippier | White
      Salah | Martinelli | Rashford | Almiron
      Kane | Haaland | Mitrovic

      Iversen | Andreas | Bueno | Patterson

      Alternatively could get Martial instead of Mitrovic

  21. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    De Bruyne is not "useless". He's the best player in the Premier League and an absolute joy to watch.

    In FPL terms he highlights the conundrum between him and Salah. He often assists the assister, and despite four key passes (so far) this evening, it's not his fault if the people on the end of his passes fail to finish.

    Despite that, KDB and Salah are the 2nd/3rd highest scoring midfielders. I would still only want one of them though, with Haaland and Kane the other premiums.

    1. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      What is this shadowboxing?

    2. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      I have both.

    3. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      I think I still prefer Kdb to Salah also because City just look in so much better form. They were poor first half this evening yet still comfortable throughout. If Liverpool go on a good purple patch then I will make the switch

    4. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Pick your premiums and stick. Not much to choose between Salah, KDB and Kane right now. Just gotta hope you're lucky.

    5. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      ‘He's the best player in the Premier League’

      Rashford plays basketball or what?

  22. Nightf0x
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Which?

    A) james to cucu, gw19 zaha to kdb
    (have kepa)
    B) james to botman/akanji/azpi/chalobah, gw19 zaha to salah
    (have triper walker kepa darwin)
    C) james to robbo, gw19 zaha to madds/rodrigo/gundo
    D) roll ft bench james start rash, gw19 zaha james out

    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Don't know the rest of your team, but double Newcastle defence is the best option imho. Solid source of points and not subject to same rotation problems.

  23. Ruinenlust
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Kdb -> Salah???

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      No 😛

    2. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Yeah and when KdB returns and Salah doesn’t swap them back immediately after

    3. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Maybe (only maybe) for the next two GWs - but then City have slightly better fixtures and two DGWs, so switch back.

      I have Salah, not KDB, but intend to get KDB in GW20.

    4. Admiral Benson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Total knee-jerk, but I’m strongly considering it.

    5. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      KDB unlucky, Salah lucky. That may well change next gameweek.

  24. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Only Haaland can be poor and grab a duce

    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      McCoist gave him MotM. To be fair there were no stand out players so guess the player who gets a couple of tap ins should win it..

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Most of us could score for Man City the way KDB, Grealish etc. set things up on a plate.

        KDN MoM for me. But McCoist was a striker, doesn't appreciate midfielders.

        1. Mr. O'Connell
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 12 months ago

          Pretty sure he gave Casemiro motm just yesterday

          1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
            • 14 Years
            2 years, 12 months ago

            Shearer did. And he was right - Cass was superb

            1. Mr. O'Connell
              • 13 Years
              2 years, 12 months ago

              Oh yeah twas Alan, not Ally.

      2. dabber7
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        KDB was MOTM by miles

  25. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Is Foden to Mount worth a hit?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      On DGW probably

    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      After watching that, probably.
      But I’d sleep on it

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Anything to be rid of the Pine King is worth it.

  26. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    KDB. Damn!

  27. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Sigh KDB. Played well, but nothing to show for it. Happens I guess, into next GW

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      EVE at home next, should be good

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Only had KDB, Darwin, James & Cancelo blank.

      KDB played great, unlucky to get no assists. Darwin played great, unlucky not to score multiple times. James unlucky to get injured. Cancelo, well he didn't start.

      Cant really complain too much other than simple not having Salah/Mitro/Shaw etc.

      At least the ones we had didn't pull stinkers. That would be much worse.

  28. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Owner of KDB Ederson James Darwin ... ahhh bit painful!

    1. Samsonite
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      I feel your pain lol

  29. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    It's only 1 week gone in the kdb v salah battle

    Hopefully kdb in the points v eve

    Kdb has to stay give City expected double

    1. Admiral Benson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 12 months ago

      Assuming he plays against Everton………

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 12 months ago

        Don't say that

  30. shorey143
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 12 months ago

    Hands up who spent too much time deliberating on Kepa/Cancelo bs Ederson/Robertson