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There’s one more Gameweek 17 match to go before Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers get their sole rest day ahead of back-to-back Gameweeks.

Leeds United v Manchester City is the fixture in question, with kick-off at Elland Road set for 20:00 GMT.

It’s almost entirely about the visitors from an FPL perspective, with only one member of Leeds’ starting XI, bench fodder’s Sam Greenwood, owned by more than 2% of Fantasy managers.

Five City assets boast double-digit ownerships, by contrast, but two of them, Joao Cancelo and Phil Foden, aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s line-up tonight.

In fact, only two of the eight City players who reached the quarter-finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup with Portugal or England make the team this evening.

It’s John Stones and Jack Grealish who get the nod, with Kyle Walker, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Cancelo and the newly portly Kalvin Phillips on the bench.

Ruben Dias is injured.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola has largely gone with the same team that defeated Liverpool in the EFL Cup last Thursday, making three changes: Stefan Ortega, Aymeric Laporte and Cole Palmer are replaced by Ederson, Stones and Grealish.

Jesse Marsch has got a number of his injured and ill players back this evening, including Illan Meslier and Rodrigo.

Patrick Bamford misses out and Crysencio Summerville, who like Rodrigo has scored three goals in as many league matches, is only on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 17 LINE-UPS

Leeds United XI: Meslier, Kristensen, Struijk, Koch, Cooper, Forshaw, Roca, Greenwood, Gnonto, Rodrigo, Aaronson.

Subs: Robles, Ayling, Firpo, Llorente, Gyabi, Klich, Summerville, Harrison, Gelhardt.

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Akanji, Stones, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Grealish, Haaland, Mahrez.

Subs: Ortega, Walker, Phillips, Cancelo, Laporte, Bernardo, Gomez, Foden, Palmer.


GAMEWEEK 17 RESULTS SO FAR

Manchester United3 – 0Nottingham Forest
Chelsea2 – 0Bournemouth
Arsenal3 – 1West Ham United
Aston Villa1 – 3Liverpool
Southampton1 – 3Brighton and Hove Albion
Leicester City0 – 3Newcastle United
Everton1 – 2Wolverhampton Wanderers
Crystal Palace0 – 3Fulham
Brentford2 – 2Tottenham Hotspur

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  1. One Man
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Is Rashford back to his best ? Ten Hag thinks he can score 20 this season.

    1. dansully3
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Sure if he thinks it it must be certain! What's your actual question, it's a statement really.

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      He might do but Ten Hag has to say that to boost his confidence. Looks sharp.

    3. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      His best has so far not been that good

    4. Yes Ndidi
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Seeing as he scored 14 this week, 20 should be achievable for the season, even for him.

    5. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Season keeper for me, unless he goes back to school dinners again.

      1. One Man
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Yes, same, going to hold Martial for a bit too. Hope United can maintain their form.

    6. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      15

  2. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Who looks like the most nailed chelsea defender? Koulibaly maybe?

    1. dshv
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I went from james to cucurella

      1. CheesyZoot
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Could be a good shout. Has there been any talk of Chilwell returning though?

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Silva.

    3. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Cucurella as no sign at moment of chilwell

  3. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Really pleased that every one of my front seven scored a goal this GW - can't remember that happening before.

    H-Block the only one to score a brace, but ironically with the assists, Rashford and Salah would have been better caption options. Hey-ho.

    1. CheesyZoot
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Haaland outscored Salah

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        You'e right. Again, forgetting the bonus pts still to be added.

  4. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    100 point clubbers o/ 🙂

    1. Bank$y
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      chin chin, cheers

    2. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      o/

    3. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      99 - very pleased including the James 1 point

    4. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      100 here o/ ...no more no less

  5. Bank$y
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    100 club tonight. Feels good. Had the worst start to the season ever. By tonight I will have climbed to 33 in my mini league, up from 63rd in September.

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Ditto - my worse start in 11 years

  6. Silecro
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James to Botman (double with Trippier) or Ream? Cant stretch to Robbo

    1. Bank$y
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Batman

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Ream 😆

    3. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Botman for sure

  7. Joyce1998
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    A- Yay

    Or

    B- Nay

    TAA, Jesus, Foden >> Robbo, Saka, Darwin -4??

    1. Hutchiniho
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      No, Just Jesus out

    2. Sandy Ravage
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      A

    3. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      -8?

      B. Robertson's a bit sideways. Darwin too early.

      Just Foden to Saka.

      1. Joyce1998
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        I've 2 FT's

        1. OptimusBlack
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 5 hours ago

          How ?

          1. Tcheco
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 5 hours ago

            He didn’t use his u limited transfers hence still has Jesus.

            I wouldn’t do those moves. Just use 2 FT & even then would give Foden one more go seeing as he didn’t start today and city have a quick turnaround

            1. Tcheco
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 5 hours ago

              Jesus is your priority transfer out.

          2. Saka Punch
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 hours ago

            Lol was wondering this too!

    4. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Are you a time traveller?

  8. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Will kdb start on Saturday?

    I don't want to do kdb to salah - but am a bit concerned re kdb benching. Thanks

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Isn't it just a standard Wednesday night (UCL) to Saturday lunch time KO? I'd be shocked if he didn't start, then a few more days to recover before Chelsea.

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Yeah think I'm getting my days confused....thought it was Thursday today!

        Guess he should start. Just expect salah to bang on Friday night and then pressure is on

  9. Hutchiniho
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Best option from Ake, Dier, Schar, Dalot??

    1. DARE TO BISCAN
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      If you're interested in Dalot, probably get Shaw

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Schar.

    3. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Schar. NEW defence is watertight & the only way to gain an advantage is to double up with trips

  10. DARE TO BISCAN
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Actually just contemplated James > Ream. I probably need to go beddy-byes

    1. marcus2704
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Ream has a double coming up which makes the reasoning sound(er), I am considering bringing him in for Walker who is a player I have owned twice this season and both times ended in misery.

      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        He's decent with a slim chance of attacking threat. Low chance of a CS but maybe v Leicester in DGW18 without Maddison. I had Digne and Cash in mind for James for some mad reason but got Robertson.

      2. DARE TO BISCAN
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        He really doesn't sound too bad a short term pick. I'd play in the double. Not sure if I'd play over Gabriel in GW18 though.

        May just go for Botman. Newcastle look solid, with good fixtures (except GW19 though).

        Nobody's really jumping out at me. Have 6.2 budget, don't really want to spend all of it. Have Trippier, Gabriel, Shaw. So, no massive panic.

    2. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Averages a goal every hundred games, has Chelsea x 2, Spurs and Newcastle in his next 6. What's not to like?

      1. DARE TO BISCAN
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Was thinking more on the next 2 GWs. Then switch to Botman, or whoever seems nice at the time. Just spit-balling.

  11. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    As a City fan, it’s great to see Rico Lewis continue to kick on and give another epic performance.

    He’s 18… and the last few performances have been so mature and professional.

    As a FPL player and Cancelo owner, this does slightly concern me. Especially as Ake is performing so well at LB too.

    For what it’s worth, Cancelo comes back on next game for me. But Rico definitely one to watch, especially now Walker is ageing.

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      He's brilliant, great cover for Pep around UCL games!

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Gomez started well but hasn’t got much of a look in recently which has surprised me. But this just goes to show how good the other cover options have been.

        Everton starting line up will be interesting.

        But the future is even brighter at City.

  12. sirmorbach
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Please:

    A. Maddison to Mount
    B. Maddison to Saka
    C. Castagne to Botman
    D. Hold, play Castagne

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      B.

      Castagne looked very lively attacking wise v Newcastle. Keep him another while.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Many thanks!

    2. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      B, then C

      1. sirmorbach
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Cheers!

    3. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I think Maddison could be out for a while so I’d go Mount for the double.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Thank you!

      2. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        Agree then after double Saka

  13. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Ornstein said that Arsenal are keen to sign Mudryk and Felix on loan. Any of them would be a great addition to the team, but I hope they have a plan for CM/CDM backup as well. This may be the most important transfer window in a decade and they simply can't get it wrong.

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Mudryk looks good.
      Felix needs to realise his alleged potential. 6 years is long enough to be known as the prolifuc Portugese who hasn't been that prolific.

      1. Saka Punch
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Athletico Madrid has never really suited him tbf. Looked great in the world cup

        1. GreennRed
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 hours ago

          Atletico suited him when he felt like playing. Whinged a lot when he was dropped because his form was poor.
          He scored once in a 3-2 win over Ghana and had 2 assists in a 6-1 win over Switzerland. If he was great then how would you rare Ronaldo or Bruno in Qatar?

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      What happens to Martinelli if Mudryk signs?

      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        The competition will inspire to score 20 PL goals 😉

  14. Nightf0x
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Site crash before deadline very very costly, kepa shaw mitro on bench

    1. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Yeah it’s not like you had a whole 7 weeks to make your transfers or anything.

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Crushed

      2. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        Victim blaming. 🙂

        Site shouldn't crash.

        1. Patio Kev
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 4 hours ago

          Agreed the site shouldn’t crash but given that it has crashed already on a number of occasions this season then it shouldnt really come as a surprise when the site crashes once again.

          1. Nightf0x
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 12 months ago

            I do my transfers late, did u do your transfers just after gw16 ?

  15. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    1.9mitb. Best to save ft here?

    Kepa
    Cancelo trippier white (patterson james)
    Kdb martinelli rashford almiron (andreas)
    Haaland darwin martial

    Thanks

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Congratulations, you have the 100% template team.

      Yes, hold I'd say.

      1. gart888
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Bueno wasn't more template than Patterson?

    2. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Lose James

    3. DARE TO BISCAN
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I think so. Defence is fine. May as well get 2FT for GW19

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Thanks

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Save and have 2 transfers into week 19 double

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        Cheers mate

  16. tryf88
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James to Shaw or Schar?

    1. Lionac
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Shaw might be better option as Schar is on 4 YC

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Shaw

  17. Lionac
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Iversen -> Kepa for -4 worth it?

    Expect Ward to score around 0pts, and Kepa might have a CS

    1. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Nope.

  18. Hits from the Bong
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James to:
    A. Robertson
    B. Shaw
    C. Cancelo

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      C

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      A

  19. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Which is better move
    A- Ramsdale > Kepa
    White Tripper Shaw ( James )

    B- James > Ream
    Ramsdale
    Ream Tripper Shaw ( White)

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      A

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      A

  20. Saka Punch
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James to:

    A) Gabriel
    B) Botman (have Tripp)

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      B

    2. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      B

  21. dark91
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Since almost all posts are about James. Can he drop in price now that he is flagged? Or is his price locked?

    1. gart888
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Can drop, but isn't all that close

      1. dark91
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Good to know. Thanks

  22. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Had a punt on Havertz and it paid off, wanted to get Mitro back in so transfered him out. Poor decision?

    I've got Kepa and James from Chelsea and plan to somehow get Mount in for the double.

  23. Supersonic_
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Also, plan to just bench James for now.

  24. The Parrot
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    If you "forgot" and didn't do any transfer during the Christmas WC, do you get an extra transfer for GW18?

    Asking for a friend

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I believe that's correct, FPL put up a post regarding this a few weeks ago

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Yes if you (sorry your friend) made no transfers to your week 16 team you should have 2 frees

    3. The Parrot
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Thanks both

      My mates so silly, thank god I play him next in h2h

  25. Feed tha Sheep
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James & Wilson > Robbo & Mitro worth a -4?

    1. FISSH
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      no. just do one of them

      1. Feed tha Sheep
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        Can’t afford Robbo without downgrading Wilson > Mitro

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I would do Wilson to Mitro this week and give yourself another week of information before deciding on James replacement

    3. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Yes

  26. FISSH
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    James or Wilson to go first?

    Can do James > Robertson or Bottman

    Wilson > Mitro for the double.

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Wilson first and leave James for a week to see if more doubles confirmed and play White who I think you have.

      1. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        psychic

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      It depends on who you have on bench, for me it's andreas coming for wilson and white for james... So i'm leaning towards getting rid of james who is more likely to be out for 4 weeks while wilson may get back next few days.

      1. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        Yea im thinking this but the double is also tempting me for Mitro

  27. DavvaMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Trossard keep or go for:

    A. Almiron
    B. Mount
    C. Saka
    D. Odegaard

    Thanks

    1. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Mount imo, I'm trying to figure out a way to get him in for the doubles.

      Might do a -4 next gameweek and do Andreas to Mount and James to Shaw.

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Keep and wait for the double

      1. DavvaMC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        When is their double?

        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 4 hours ago

          potentially in 21. 70% chance

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Agree Mount for double and possibly then move to Trossard if Brighton double confirmed for 21

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 hours ago

        * move back

    4. DavvaMC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Thanks

  28. 03farmboy
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Cucrella or Robertson??

    1. Supersonic_
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Robbo just

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Robertson.

    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      I brought Cucurela 2 this season and I am not going to do it again

    4. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      Robbo for me and yes i'm biased.

    5. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 hours ago

      R

  29. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Hi lads,

    Anyone good at math or predicting, do you think Odegaard rises tonight?

    He needs 4850 more transfers according to fpl statistics and was already transferred by 80k+ since the start of the GW

    Thanks

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      Anyone?

  30. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 hours ago

    Is botman the best replacement for James?

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 4 hours ago

      There's no best replacement unfortunately, shaw cucrella botman schar perisic all look good.

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 4 hours ago

        Yeh cheers agree on those - as already got shaw I think cucurella & botmsn best options