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Dugout Discussion – Community Shield

12 August 2012 2794 comments
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We’re back. As the Olympic flame begins to flicker, the football season crunches through the gears to take up the pace. Today’s Community Shield is the official curtain raiser and offers up a Man City vs Chelsea clash that will surely whet the appetite for the feast to come.

The first Dugout Discussion post of the season is here, then, with our Chatroom also open for those who fancy some real-time exchanges.

The team news from Villa Park goes a lot like this…

Chelsea are without one of their new midfield signings, as Marko Marin continues to nurse a hamstring which threatens to derail his double Gameweek prospects. Without the option of Marin, Roberto Di Matteo looks to be going with a 4-3-3, which could similarly shift to pack the midfield with a 4-5-1. Significantly, Juan Mata starts along with Eden Hazard: the Spaniard looks to be playing on the right of compatriot Fernando Torres, with Hazard given the left flank role. Mikel holds a midfield start, with Frank Lampard and Ramires alongside him. John Terry skippers the side in a familiar back four which has Branislav Ivanovic in the right-back role and David Luiz given the nod over Gary Cahill who sits on the bench.

City are without both Gareth Barry and Micah Richards through injury, while reports of a back problem for Joe Hart are confirmed as Costel Pantilimon starts in goal. Ahead of him it looks like a familiar 4-4-2, although there is talk of Roberto Mancini lining up in the 3-5-2 that he’s used throughout the pre-season. Stefan Savic is given the nod alongside Vincent Kompany who recovers from a knock to start: Lescott is presumably being preserved for next weekend. Pablo Zabaleta and, interestingly, Aleksandar Kolarov both get starts, with Clichy benched. It could be we see Zabaleta employed as a defensive three, with Kolarov and James Milner used as wing-backs. David Silva is kept on the bench after his Euro 2012 campaign and, with Barry also absent, Nigel De Jong gets the nod alongside Yaya Toure. Carlos Tevez will be expected to provide the support for Sergio Aguero up front; Mario Balotelli is out of the equation through conjunctivitis, apparently.

Let’s hope the match is a sight for his sore eyes. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Arsenal XI: Mannone; Yennaris, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Coquelin, Ox, Cazorla; Walcott, Giroud, Podolski

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    1. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hmm. No RVP

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        He's supposed to play 45 min. 2nd half maybe.

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Ok. Cheers

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        RVp to United, yes!!!

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          no, just no

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    2. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rvp on Bench Nitin, or not featured ?

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        second half

        Szczesny; Jenkinson, Koscielny, Djourou, Santos; Diaby, Song, Arshavin; Gervinho, van Persie

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    3. Portsmouth Bubblejet
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Should be a clear Arsenal victory - 1.FC Cologne have put out a reserve team. Only three of their players (Horn, Wimmer, Royer) started in their second-division match against Sandhausen on Friday.

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    4. gledy
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      LOL Wenger playing 4 wingers 😀

      Ok, I guess it's something like this:

      ------Ox(???)---Coquelin------
      Walcott---Cazorla---Podolski
      -------------Giroud---------------

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  2. I Am ToTo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    who got the assests on the match??

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    1. Sean
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I take it you mean assists?Ramires and Kolarov got one

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  3. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Just to add to the Tevez talk, he's actually a stone lighter than was planned thanks to how much he's been training himself. Seems like he's very set on becoming the head honcho this season.

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    1. _Freddo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Play both, been saying it all Summer, at 9M for Tevez you are getting a player worth 11m in real terms.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I think that could be correct.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I remember when he was at United. 🙁 talented scumbag that he is.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Sure no need to worry now, Kagawa will be key this season 😉

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  4. VougieDipond
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    https://twitter.com/MarkG_Arsenal/status/234658235334946816/photo/1/large arsenal v koln teams

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  5. Setting the Toney
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is Lescott's place in doubt? Who will be the 3 defenders in Mancini's system?

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kompany will play everyone else will rotate

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  6. southernpacific
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    link to the arsenal stream?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Read the terms and conditions of this site

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    2. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No links to streams allowed

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  7. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone like Dyer (5.5) ? Swansea's fixtures are superb..

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      think so, struggling to accomodate Graham so he's my backup option

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yep.. he's in my team. Let's me ignore Graham and get a heavy hitter front 3 too

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I do... prefer Michu though.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, would prefer Michu but there's a budget 🙁

        Hmm, Dyer and Guthrie rotate very nicely, but it's whether they will be 2 points rotating with 2 or not..

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Dyer finished strongly last season & scored and assisted pre-season.

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  8. MB10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who will start at RB for Chelsea next week?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is ivanovic banned now because of the red?

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      1. MB10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Ye for 3 matches

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      2. Setting the Toney
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        yep, 3 match ban

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Hey man, stop saying that to everybody, the ban is not certain. He will only get one if FA decide to punish him.

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          1. Setting the Toney
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            hey kostja, martin tyler specifically said that it was going to be a 3 match domestic ban

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            1. Kostja
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              I quess he dont know his rules or was guessing that the FA will decide that. But the ban may not happen.
              http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/RedCardUpdate

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        2. SkyByBo
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Wow, didnt realise the chairty shield cards counted, guess its just a straight red that would count!? Guess ill be getting cole then.

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          1. Podge
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            They don't just ignore

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  9. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RVP on the bench.

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    1. Cymro
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is the game on tv?

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He's in second half team.

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  10. Babytigrrr
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I know it's a bit of a knee-jerker but Bertrand to me looks a pretty good option at 4.5. Chelsea def looks decidedly dodgy after today. Is he worth a consideration?

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No, he won't play.

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    2. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Well Ivanovic might not be banned or Ferrira might play so who knows.

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      1. Red20
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If Ivanovic was banned, Ferrira would be a great little pick up just for the DGW (If chelsea kept cleanies).

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        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          yayaI imagine Bertnard will be ahead of Ferrira in peaking order.

          however, i think the chelsea's back 4 will be

          Luiz Cahill Terry Cole

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  11. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone know why ESPN aren't showing the Arsenal game until 5:30? :-/

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    1. _Freddo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If you are an Arsenal member it's on the website live.

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah.. I'd just rather watch it on ESPN HD than on a laptop. 🙁

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    2. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Livepool game is on.

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    3. VougieDipond
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Liverpool game instead. :S I would rather Watch Dortmund v Bayern which they ain't showing till 10 but kicks off at 7

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  12. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Arsenal

    First half:
    Mannone; Yennaris, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Coquelin, Ox, Cazorla; Walcott, Giroud, Podolski

    Second half:
    Szczesny; Jenkinson, Koscielny, Djourou, Santos; Diaby, Song, Arshavin; Gervinho, van Persie, Gnabry

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      second half team is announced already??

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Nothing gets by you.

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Kick-off time, JoA?

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Arsenal not giving anything away by having Vermaelen and RVP in the different teams so there's no captaincy issues

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    3. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Gnabry will eat.

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  13. Red20
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So how realistic is a Kolorov-wagon now?

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    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm on it. For first few GW's anyway.
      Definitely worth a punt imo.

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  14. lickwidice
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    RMT Please.

    Federici (Jaas)
    Lescott,Cole,Hangeland (Barnett,Fonte)
    Hazard,Valencia,Noble,Bale (Maloney)
    Torrez,Tevez,Graham

    I can do valencia + tevez --> Aguero + 6.5 MF

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  15. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Shit -how the hell did Torres get there.. 😆

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  16. Mindless Freak
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Any changes?

    Jaasy, Green
    Rangel, Assou Ekotto, Gunter, Tomkins, Barnett
    Toure, Lampard, Kagawa, Bale, Dyer
    Torres, Aguero, Graham

    2mil to do Torres -> Rooney GW 2.

    Any changes?

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    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      That team plus 2m is over 100m.

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    2. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      That's a lot of Swansea. Consider Shawcross or Hangeland over Rangel. Looks good apart from that.

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  17. Billy Gilmore
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Downing you mug!

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    1. Sean
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      We heard that one 38 times last season 😉

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep and nothing changes 😉

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  18. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I can't see Balotelli getting much of a sniff atm.

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    1. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2186921/Manchester-City-reject-40m-Mario-Balotelli-bid-Roberto-Mancini-vowed-quit.html

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  19. Title20
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    DDG, Fed
    Cole, Lescott, Clyne, Fabio, Demel
    Ramires, Bale, Noble, Michu, Pienaar
    Torres, Tevez, Graham

    still got 2.5 to spend...any ideas? graham to bent? clyne to hangeland?

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  20. Derailed Bandwagon
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What would you rate this out of 10?

    Mignolet, Green

    Cole, Lescott, S.Taylor, Hoovield, Gunter

    Mata, Sessegnon, Michu, Kightly, Noble

    Torres, Tevez, Bent

    Thanks

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  21. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Think I'm gonna have to get aboard the Kolarovlcopter. Won't need him GW2 and would back him to start GW1, by 3 I'll have the chance to reassess if needs be.

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    1. Specialist
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      There room for one more on there? So hard to resist putting him in my team at the moment :/

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Mind if I squeeze in? Please ...

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    2. andres
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Kolarov played in midfield and wasnt subbed when clichy came on... I am thinking why not try him instead of lescott?

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      1. Specialist
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hmm, just depends how long they stick with this formation, if they even use it at all in the league..

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        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          only against stronger side/more attacking side

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  22. Rtas
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I now want Aguero, Tevez, Yaya, Milner and Kolarov
    Decisions, decisions

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    1. Sean
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You want Milner?

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      1. Rtas
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If City carry on playing 352 he could score big, just look how many times he got to the by-line today

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        1. Setting the Toney
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          he wont get a game when silva takes his place

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    2. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      milner haha

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  23. Manani
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    time to do my transfers:

    hazard>ramires
    Ivanovic>Bertnard
    Aguero>Tevez
    Clichy>Kolarov
    Get yaya in somehow.

    Torres(vc)>Torres(C)

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  24. super zlatan
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this?

    Friedal. Federici
    Cole. Hangaland. Clyne. Collocini. Cuellar
    Bale. Lamps. Yaya. Pienaar. Noble
    Torres. Tevez. Graham

    2mil in bank.

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney in for Torres...

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    2. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Decent.

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      1. super zlatan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers. I could downgrade friedal to Ming and upgrade yaya to kagawa.

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    3. Title20
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      only one big hitter in defense? may turn out difficult but may pay off.

      like it, same front 8 other than lamps(ramires) and yaya(michu)

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Getting better every time SZ 🙂

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    5. AIRMILES
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nice.

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  25. Ishaan-Do join my FPL leagu…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How this looking
    Aguero, Torres and Tevez
    Torres to Rooney.
    It takes a lot from the midfield but i think the forwards will outscore the midfielders again..

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  26. The Wizard of Ozil
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) DDG,Dawson & Yaya

    or

    B) Friedel,Terry(Vidic gw2) & 6.5 mid

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    1. Setting the Toney
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A

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    2. Black Knights
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Is Dawson gonna play? I've gone for Kaboul at the moment but wouldn't mind Dawson if anyone knows if he's due to start?

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  27. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Zabaleta will start GW1 !!!

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  28. Alton E.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    gerrard really enjoying this more attacking role... he'll def be in my team when the fixtures get easier

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  29. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    was DDG responsible for any of the goals last night? does he look fairly nailed on now? don't mind 3-4 weeks on the bench at that price

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    1. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lindy made a howler for the 1st.

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  30. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    8 yellows and 1 red
    all for charity
    nice

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