The Pre-Match Preamble - Gameweek 38 Preamble
15 September 2012 1295 comments
Mark Mark
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A Robin Van Persie injury scare is like no other. I’m struggling to think of another event that can both create the Twitter storm and panic within the Fantasy Football community on a similar level. It can send shockwaves that remind us, and others around us, just how seriously we take our task.

Tuesday’s gradual news, or non-news, drip of Van Persie’s withdrawal at half-time in the Netherlands’ win over Hungary was something to behold. Twitter was awash with football fans, each with their own very different agenda, conspiring to generate a frenzy of mis-information which even included images of the stricken striker being stretchered off in an orange shirt when the Dutch were actually playing in change colours.

From a Fantasy Manager’s perspective, the garbled noise being produced by the social networks was a head-spinning experience. The 140-character kerfuffle was then inevitably followed swiftly by reports that Van Persie was an immediate doubt for the weekend clash with Wigan. As it turned out, this was not, and perhaps never was the case.

Doubtless a hasty report of Van Persie being a doubt for a weekend home clash has little impact on the lives of our football media. They can go home to their better halves and box sets and leave us Fantasy managers fretting. For us such a story can be the catalyst for change, for a full strategy rethink. It has consequences. It certainly has impact.

Throughout the last few days we remained frosty on the situation here on the site – observing that most news sources were more cautious than the likes of the Daily Mail on an “injury” that had already been dismissed by Dutch coach Louis Van Gaal. We refused to consider Van Persie’s ā€œincidentā€ as anything more than a knock. The Fantasy Premier League did not apply their flag and, as a result, Van Persie’s Fantasy owners were sparred the agony of potentially selling on their star asset, only to find he was declared fit by Friday lunchtime.

He is fit. Sir Alex said so, but now we must wait to see what Ferguson does with his shuffling pack ahead of United’s Champions League tie with Galatasaray on Wednesday. Things will be nervy until we get the teamsheet.

While no one single source amongst this morning’s papers dare suggest that Van Persie won’t start against the Latics, some give Alex Buttner his debut at left-back with Patrice Evra making way. The Independent – probably our favoured Saturday morning source, goes with this along with both Shinji Kagawa and Danny Welbeck in their United lineup.

The press as a whole appear to be split on David De Gea’s chances of a recall. The Independent, The Guardian and the Daily Mail all backing a return for the Spaniard, while our other four papers stick with Anders Lindegaard. For the record, we’re opting for De Gea.

Intriguingly, the Mail, the Telegraph and the Sun have dropped Ryan Giggs into the mix in their lineups – both omitting Kagawa in the process. We’re also seeing ad hoc appearances for Anderson amongst the media and, at one point yesterday, the Guardian dropped Michael Carrick back into defence – perhaps forgetting that both Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans are fit.

We forgive them. It’s been corrected since and it’s clear that Ferguson and United have us all in a tizzy. Not for the first time.

Elsewhere, there are perhaps few surprises. Again, using the Independent as my most reliable point of reference, we’re seeing debuts for Villa’s Joe Bennett and Christian Benteke, Leon Osman is coming in for the injured Darron Gibson, Adam Johnson is fit enough for the Sunderland lineup, Clint Dempsey starts for Spurs at the expense of poor old Gylfi Sigurdsson and Julio Cesar starts in nets for QPR.

All very viable and worthy decisions. Nobody can really be sure of course – these are best guesses or at least educated guesses like our own team news predictions. From my perspective it’s always fascinating cutting through the press noise, now compounded by Twitter’s streaming contribution. There’s no disputing that we have so much more information around us than when I started this thing five years ago. The job that myself and the team carry out on a Friday is a frantic one, sifting sources, weighing up credibility and reliability, listening in and taking managers on their word. That’s all we can really do.

Just how reliable can that be is difficult to say. There are always the odd surprise and, I’m almost convinced that kidology plays a part in some quarters. Let’s just hope it’s not been at play in the Old Trafford camp.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. lucas
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    If you're on a wildcard, which 2 keepers would you choose? I'm thinking Jaas + someone

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    1. Ferris Bueller
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Jaas and Begovic for lowest budget. Jaas and Foster for mid-range.

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    2. hazza44
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      how much for??

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    3. hazza44
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      juss and foster if you can afford if not juss and bego

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    4. Ed
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Jaas + Begovic....rotate perfectly

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    5. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Begovic rotates well with Jaask i believe

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    6. Hernanred
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Jaas + Guzan

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  2. Spoiler
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    WC team.. thoughts?

    Foster
    Cole | Rafael | Hughes
    Cazorla | Hazard | Pienaar | Michu
    RVP (c) | Tevez | Lambert

    Begovic, Maloney, Demel, Cuellar

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    1. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Hughes not playing at presenet

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  3. waynoc3490
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Who should i start out of Cuellar, Saylor and A. Williams?
    Already have Michu and Graham starting in my team form Swansea!!

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    1. @theTinkermen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      cuellar

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    2. Bobbydhino - āš’ Saint Slav…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cuellar for me. LFC is not convincing enough to score.

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      i've tripled swansea

      Michu Graham Rangel

      Go for it!

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      1. waynoc3490
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah i think i'll triple up and go with Williams because Villa have been even less impressive than Liverpool!

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        1. ColeHole
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Hop on the Daviestrain.

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  4. david ngog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Is there ANYONE wildcarding that doesnt have Baines?!

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    1. .
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Me

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    2. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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      me

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    3. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      me

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  5. david ngog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Begovic Jas Baines and Maloney OR
    Begoviic Foster S taylor and Pienaar?

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  6. .
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    This may sound stupid, but is Demel nailed-on? Why did he come off after 11 min in the last game? Would Reid be a safer bet iyo?

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    1. .
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      *77min sorry

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    2. .
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers lads

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    3. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      just a precaution. He's nailed on

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    4. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Demel had a slight injury and the game was won (3-0). He's had 2 weeks to recover, he is nailed on

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  7. Tin of Directors
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Morning all.
    Thoughts on this team?
    For the first time in ages I feel totally confident with my team ages before deadline.
    DDG
    Walker – Jenks – Cashley
    Michu – Carzola (v) – Nolan – Hazard
    Pog – Tev – RVP (c)
    Davis – Demel – Saylor – Kaca

    Sub order and captains OK??

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    1. ColeHole
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I'd put the subs the other way! Aside from that, it's a fine team, non WC as well!

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers mate.
        Kaca - Saylor - Demel?

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        1. ColeHole
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          That's what I's do. I almost always put the mid first.

          Famous last words.....

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          1. Tin of Directors
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            Just have this feeling that another cleanie is on the cards for Demel but not confident enough to start him. First sub was a happy compromise but Kaca first does makes more sense.

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            1. ColeHole
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 3 months ago

              If he's second sub, he's first on anyway (in place of a defender).
              Kankles will only cover your fwd 7 (if he plays, that is!)

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          2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 3 months ago

            You're right. Wife had Dyer stuck on her bench previously when he was not 1st sub.

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  8. stephenl15
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Who should I start, Ben Davies or Demel alonside ridgewell and Baines

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    1. Seamy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Flip of a coin. Probably Davies

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    2. @theTinkermen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      davies

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    3. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Davies.

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      1. stephenl15
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Ok ill do that thanks guys šŸ™‚

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  9. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    a)Cazorla & Dyer
    OR
    b)Yaya & Michu

    currently on b.

    Cazorla seems to be in a lot of teams, is he that essential???

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    1. aree036
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      yes. cazorla.

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    2. @theTinkermen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      A

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    3. garthsheehan
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      My starting MID is Dyer, Cazorla, Hazard, Yaya.

      so gotta go A)

      also (c) is on santi today

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  10. DLL18
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Pick 2 to play, tempted to just go with the 2 @ home:

    Zabaleta (stk)
    Hughes (WBA)
    Cuellar (LIV)
    Rangel (avl)

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    1. Lovzat
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Zab and Hugues

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    2. @theTinkermen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      yeah prob hughes n cuellar. city never won at the britania and havent kept a clean sheet yet

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    3. Hernanred
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Zab + Rangel

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  11. Miracallas
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    WC Team:

    ------------------------Jas-----------------------

    ------Jenks-------Baines-------Cuellar---

    Cazorla----Hazard------Michu----Nolan

    ------Tevez--------RVP-------Berba-------

    Bego, Demel, Rangel, Sterling

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    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks for letting me know.

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  12. Khazana
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    All set with the WC team:

    Jaas
    Rafael/ Baines/ Gibbs
    Morrison/ Hazard/ Michu/ Cazorla
    RVP/ Lambert/ Tevez

    Subs: Bego/ Guthrie/ Gorkss/ McCartney

    Find a fault with this if u can!!

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    1. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Looks good. Like that you manage to get in some defenders from quality teams

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      1. pontus
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        But Demel over McCartney

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    2. ColeHole
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      That's a REALLY good team. Nice balance šŸ˜‰

      Seriously, fine choices, good to go!

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    3. Miracallas
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Take it you can't afford Harte for Gorkss, set pieces

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    4. aree036
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      you have scum in your front 3

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  13. Willis.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Puncheon (ars) or Gunter (TOT) first sub?

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    1. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Puncheon not nailed on, away from home. Gunter, maximum is an unlikely 6. who is your 3rd sub??

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  14. MICHELIN
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Play Gorkss, Demel or A Williams?

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    1. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Williams

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      williams

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    3. MICHELIN
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers guys.

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  15. Conneely*
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Would anyone please rate my wildcard team?

    I have no RVP, it's a big risk, It could ruin my year...

    My team is linked.

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    1. Conneely*
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry, doesn't come up with link (doh)...

      Begovic, Jussi

      Banines, Rangel, Rafael, Jenks, Demel

      Hazard, Santi, Pienar, Michu, Dyer

      Torres, Tevez, Fletcher

      0.4 in Bank

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      1. garthsheehan
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        w/o RVP you need c/s from your D.......People have similar Mids with RVP so if you like you DEF rotation then its worth a punt, as long a Torres and tevez keep scoring goals and you DEf get Cleanies...personally RVP is a must.

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  16. Demí
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    @pjcadden
    Expect Swansea to line up as follows today: Vorm; Rangel, Tate, Williams, Davies; Britton, de Guzman, Michu; Routledge, Graham, Dyer.

    Very reliable, works in the club.

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    1. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Do the business dyer. Still haven't got michu

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    2. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks a lot.

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    3. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks Demi

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    4. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Demi you should have a livestream of your PC screen so we can see how you manage to multitask so efficiently.

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    5. ColeHole
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Dyer, Michu, Davies.

      It begins šŸ˜€

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    6. Rowley Birkin
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Demi have you RVP captain?

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, got Tevez vice if it all goes pete tong. Don't think RVP will get a 1 pointer

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    7. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      tripled on Swans - looks good till now

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  17. david ngog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    On Wildcard Last changes:
    Begovic Jas Baines and Maloney OR
    Begoviic Foster S taylor and Pienaar?!!!

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  18. hazza44
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    What time is lockout??

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    1. ColeHole
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      21 minutes to go, just 21 minutes to go....

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    2. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      11:30

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  19. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    when is sagan back? i need to know when to ditch jenkinson?

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    1. ColeHole
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      CArl Sagan ain't never comin back, brother.

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      1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        i mean sagna

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        1. ColeHole
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 3 months ago

          Ah, he's 2 weeks away

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V17duGlHEYY

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    2. @theTinkermen
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      2-3 weeks

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  20. Loktai
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Thinking my team is looking pretty strong this week:

    Jussi

    Ivanovic / Hangeland / Gorks

    Cazorle (c) / Michu / Kagawa / Yaya / el Ahmadi

    RVP / Tevez

    Pog / Simpson / Fabio on the bench.

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  21. JayBomb
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Kags starting yes or no???

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    1. Loktai
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I'd say yes. Fergie declaired him fit on Friday and he's been impressive so far. He
      also said he wanted to find out how he reacted to playing after a long travel.

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      depends on ruiz fitness mate

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      1. Oldman Unathletic
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        sorry thought u meant kaca - think kags will be rested and used in the cl

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  22. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    who is your captain for this week?

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  23. joshjake
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    I gota horrible horrible feeling rvp will be used only as a impact sub today

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      he will play more than 60minutes (unfortunately) šŸ™

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Its such a worry. But who can forget Van Persie v Blackburn last year? Got to captain him and hope for the best.

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    3. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I cant see it. If he's fit to play surely he'll play, otherwise he'll not play at all.

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  24. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Argh!

    Play Cuellar or Noble??

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cuellar.

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      1. garthsheehan
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 3 months ago

        id go noble i think liverpool find the back of the net a couple of times today

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  25. m165
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    13 years, 3 months ago

    Lost on the last page:
    Current WC team, any suggestions before the deadline?

    Ruddy, Jaask
    Reid, Davis, McAuley, Ivanovic, Hughes
    Hazard, Carzorla, Yaya, Michu, Guthrie
    Tevez, RVP, Pogrebnyak

    I notice people are picking Demel over Reid, worth switching?

    Cheers

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    1. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      They are pretty equal, but I like Demel. Less competition and a bit more attacking.

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    2. aree036
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      reid to demel to free up for ruddy to begovic (if you can get foster + beg thats premo)

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  26. Hitman MHK
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Hey guys! Finally some football today, it’s been a while! šŸ˜€
    Last spot to fill in the team, I’m going Guthrie ATM. Which option do we think?

    a) Guthrie
    b) Cuellar
    c) Kacaniklic
    d) Demel

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      a

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    2. pontus
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      I'm your biggest fan I'll follow you around the country. Danny, Danny Guthrie.

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    3. chel5eachris
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Kacaniklic will be sub. Guthrie for me

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    4. Hitman MHK
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Cheers lads! Was tossing up with Cuellar but I think Guthrie it is! šŸ™‚
      What about Cuells?

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  27. BananaMan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Wildcats active...any changes before 11:30???

    Howard | Foster
    Gibbs | Rafael | Rangel | McAuley | Demel
    Yaya | Dembele | Michu | Hazard | Maloney
    RVP | Tevez | Petric

    0.5 bank

    Thanks everyone!!!

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  28. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Those with no RVP who are you (C)?

    Hazard or Tevez

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  29. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    captain? RVP-- hazard-- or tevez?

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    1. Willis.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      RVP (C) Hazard (VC).

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Van Persie for me...

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    3. joshjake
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 3 months ago

      Ive gone rvp... Nail biter tho

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  30. Rowley Birkin
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 3 months ago

    Start Fletcher(LIV) or Taylor(nor) ?

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