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9 December 2012 3897 comments
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Three Premier League clashes, with little doubt on the headline act. The Manchester derby gets proceedings underway as City host United in the early kick-off. Spurs’ visit to Everton is the meat in the sandwich, while Liverpool’s trip to Upton Park rounds off Sunday’s matches. As usual, our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect your musings as the ninety minutes tick by.

The team news from the Etihad is intriguing. Mario Balotelli starts up front for City, with Carlos Tevez and Edin Dzeko left on the bench. Matija Nastasic is back alongside Vincent Kompany with Joleon Lescott benched as Gael Clichy returns from injury at left-back. Samir Nasri is in the midfield where he’s joined by David Silva who overcomes a slight hamstring concern to start. As for United, they bring in Antonio Valencia on his return to fitness, with Ashley Young on the opposite flank in an attacking lineup. Tom Cleverley overcomes a calf injury to take his place alongside Michael Carrick in midfield, while Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie start in tandem as expected. Rooney’s position will be of particular interest.

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  1. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    The 3 R's.
    RVP.
    ROONEY.
    RAFAEL.
    Good idea getting all 3? 😉

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    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Worth a try 😀

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    2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      I'm happy with Ba and Defoe atm...

      It would have to be RVP > Rooney for me but that's too much of a waste!

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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    City fans...

    http://s17.postimage.org/mbf8uf6f3/crying.png

    🙂

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    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      They saw something cute?

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      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Misuse of memes should be dealt with heavy punishments!

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    2. halnone
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      very clever... tw@t

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      FAIL

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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Fok julle naaiers

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  2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    Desperately needing Baines and Defoe to do something spectacular...

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  3. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    Man it's annoying that all the headlines will be about crowd trouble now.

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  4. Hazmat
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    Everton seem to be all over Tottenham but not creating anything significant.

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  5. SW6
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    It may be petty but I'm a little annoyed tevez wasn't sent off.

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    1. df34
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Not sure he got second assist

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      it is petty

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  6. kaz 96
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    Poor stuff from Rio too. Trying to rub it in by celebrating in front of the city fans, shd have seen it coming.

    not trying to defend the city fans, though. It was disgraceful !

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Agreed

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      I was unfortunate enough to watch a game at the Ethiad in the City season ticket section (a friend bought me) and the majority of the fans were absolute knobs. They deserve the result to be rubbed in.

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      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Harsh

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      2. Something Clever
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Wrong. Doing that is asking for trouble and often it's normal, responsible fans who get hurt as a result. A professional athlete winding up spectators in an already heated atmosphere? Grow up.

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      3. shegull
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Lol find me a team in the world where the significant part of the fans aren't knobs. Moreover, in Manchester and elsewhere in North England.

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          Fair enough. I was a bit harsh 🙂

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        2. Something Clever
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          Not talking about the fans though am i? Read the post mate. It's Ferdinand i was criticizing. Also, how are northern fans any worse than those in the south? Explain yourself.

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 13 days ago

            I think you've misunderstood his post. Cool down mate.

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            1. Something Clever
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 13 days ago

              I'm absolutely cool. But i'll tell you what, if i had a coin right now, and i had a really long throw, i'd try and lob it right at you 🙂

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              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 12 days ago

                Must be a City fan. Grow up.

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                1. Something Clever
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 12 days ago

                  I'm neither City or United actually, and i was merely trying to make a joke. But whatever, if you wanna be that way, hey ho.

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    3. Something Clever
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Absolutely. Ferdinand behaving that way puts innocent fans at risk. He'll be in the changing room, some poor fans will be getting bottled outside. Utter muppet. Neville did the same with the Liverpool fans once.

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      1. Berbalove
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Ferdinand is in the heat of the moment. You score a goal like that, you celebrate. City fans doing something after the game are not in the heat of the moment, and should be heavily punished were they to do anything. Celebration = ok, violence = not ok.

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        1. kaz 96
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          remember the adebayor celeb vs arsenal a couple of years ago? some stupid celebrations lead to violence, unfortunately.

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        2. Something Clever
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          Lol. Ferdinand is absolutely entitled to celebrate, but shouldn't do so in the faces of the opposition. It's highly irresponsible. And to be fair, the fans are absolutely in the heat of the moment too. Take off your rose tinted glasses.

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  7. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 13 days ago

    Need Fletcher to play in the Reading game otherwise my h2h rival gets Rafael off the bench. Chances of Fletch playing?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      50/50

      hasn't trained all week

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      1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        OK, cheers BD!

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      2. Godfather Bandit 42
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Aren't you the fella who advised not captain Michu?

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    2. matthewhagon
        13 years, 13 days ago

        I need him to not play then i get Clyne

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      • Cowshed - Blue & White …
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        I think he'll play, i reckon O'Neill looked at it realistically on where he had a chance of getting 3 points. The Reading game is a much bigger game for Sunderland than the Chelsea game was.

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        1. Buck The Trent
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          +1

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      • Les Bleus
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        High IMO

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      • Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 12 days ago

        I've got Fletcher C
        Michu VC
        And Yaya on the bench
        But I think he'll play!

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    3. Cowshed - Blue & White …
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Great game, just need my punt on Gerrard to come off now.

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    4. Absinthe Minded
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Will Gorkss play next game?
      Rafael first sub
      nelsen 2nd sub
      if Gorkss doesn't play
      Aghhhhh

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    5. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Defoe booked

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    6. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      defoe yc

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    7. A.T
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Can people stop buying puncheon FFs.

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      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        But...but, he scored.

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      2. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Sterling > Puncheon for my WC lol

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    8. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      DEFOE...has a yellow card

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    9. bmb100
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      4th '2 point' captain in a row. Good times...

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    10. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      If Valencia's injury keeps him out of Sunderland, do we think Fergie might play Rafael RW with Jones/Smalling at RB?

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        no. Probably Valencia and Welbeck on the wings. Or Rooney

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      2. mutatedllama
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        That would be delicious.

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    11. hazza
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      gif of the RIO incident

      i still cant figure out what happened

      http://i.minus.com/ibvbU7CdYr40Ez.gif

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        The slow-mo on sky showed something hitting him.

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      2. big oak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        i think hes hurt himself

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      3. DLL18
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        You can see a coin hit him, then I guess he puts his shirt up to protect his ugly mug.

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      4. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        a coin hit him a split second before the point where your gif starts.

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    12. crystalpalaceRus
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      13 years, 13 days ago

      Would you keep Tevez now or get in Suarez?

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    13. Lawrø
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Don't hate and I have only seen the one angle but I swear that was never a freekick, I immediately thought get up Rafael!

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Tevez should have got a 2nd yellow.

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      2. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        My 11(maybe 13) points would disagree 😛

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      3. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        replay shows he's clipped, tevez is trying to get out the way but that's irrelevent, rafael is brought down when in front of tevez

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    14. the Bap Chap
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      update:

      Arteta 3, Sagna 2, Gibbs 1, Vermaelen 1 (no one wants the 2 and 1, 17-19ppi)
      Shawcross 3, Lowton 2, Holman 1
      Puncheon 3, Clyne 3, Shaw 1 (both on 3 as it looks very tight and could go either way)
      Torres 3, Mata 2, Johnson 1 (in the mix Cahill, Cole)
      Snodgrass 3, Holt 2, Bassong 1 (in the mix Whittaker, De Guzman)
      McCarthy 3, Beausejour 2, Nelsen 2
      Rooney 3, Rafael 2, Young 1

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        P*ss off Rafael 🙁

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      2. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        rafa on my f'in bench!!!!

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      3. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Still none for me 🙂

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      4. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Thanks fairy

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      5. Buck The Trent
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        0 for rvp

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      6. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Not even a sneaky one for RVP? 😕 I suppose shots off a plenty

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      7. SpinyNorman [*_*]
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        A big fat 0 for me if these are to be believed =(

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      8. THE SQUARE ONE
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Mmm, no RVP then.

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      9. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 12 days ago

        Damn u Rafael I played u for all 1pters !!!!!!!!!

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    15. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Seems pretty quiet in the Everton Spurs game...anyone watching?

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      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        I've just started listening on the radio. I shall update

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    16. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      i have to say im tempted by sess/ba to snodgrass/rooney for a hit to leave roo/rvp/suarez

      can you smell the knee in the air

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    17. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Nasri you absolute p*ssy, pity he doesn't feel shame.

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    18. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      defoe booked

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    19. jelly.john
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      get roonry now or wait end of week after sunderland match etc...

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      1. jelly.john
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        roooneeey plz tell me get him be4 his price rise or wait ???

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    20. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Retro red for Tevez?

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      1. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        hopefully

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      2. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        ref saw it so i doubt it

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      3. Lloyd Xmas
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        eh?

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      4. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Oh come on. Rooney was like a pikey on crack at the end of the 6-1 loss to city last year. Happens all the time

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      5. crystalpalaceRus
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        desperate?

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    21. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Is it me or Rooney is out scoring Persie recently. And that Glover guy is crazy right? With his bald statement ? His model preferred Rooney to RVP? Thoughts?

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        RVP will score more over the season.

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        1. The3rdTurd
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          Enough to justify a £2m price premium? hmmm

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      2. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        He seems to be right so far on that front. I know he's taken a lot of flack for it but Rooney has finally come good

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      3. Kostja
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Well they have similar amounts of shots in the box and key passes. But Rooney is cheaper and has pens. Probably has had more shots on target so far though, that is why Glovers model prefers him.

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    22. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      how nailed are HRK and Kaca

      when fit

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    23. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      Morrison for next 3 anyone?

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      1. big oak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        he might be injured

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    24. Jef Costello
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 13 days ago

      hmmm

      rafael got two assists, not one? correct?

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        wish it was but no

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        1. Jef Costello
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 13 days ago

          on FPL he got points

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      2. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 13 days ago

        Correct. Passed to Rooney for the first one, got fouled for the second one.

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