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23 December 2012 3491 comments
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    assist for michu?

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    1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      dyer

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        OMG wrong again.... 🙄

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Michu

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    3. Pinoche
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Routledge.

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      1. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        De Guzman, sorry.

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    4. Scroobius Mac
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      De Guzman

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        *more giggles*

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      2. Drip Doctor
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Baller.

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      3. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        +1

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      4. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        correct

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      5. In Like Flynn.
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        That's the one.

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    5. McDog
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      De Guzman

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    6. The Finnisher
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Agustien

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    7. jose-mourinho
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      vorm

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      1. jose-mourinho
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        opps wrong... i mean de gea

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  2. China Mag
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Alreet lads. Everyone in the top 500 in the skysports game will have RVP and Michu. Right? Moved up to 349 spot yesterday, but guessing todays points won't improve my rank much!

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  3. Somalion
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Well, United started well but faded quickly. Very temperamental are these lads, some matches when they really put it in they are incredible. Today there are a few who look like they'd rather be at home wrapping presents.

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  4. Jonah Takalua
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    When is P.Hernandez expected back from injury?

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    1. gravless
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      He could have played today but Laudrup didn't want to risk it.

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  5. A.T
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    I'd love a utd mid till fellainis back. Minefield with rotation though

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    1. heartsattack
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Young the only option I could find.

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      1. A.T
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        Will he start the next two though?

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        1. Optimus.
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          i think he will valencia looks terrible

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        2. heartsattack
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          Dunno mate. He's better at home so might be worth the punt.

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        3. A.T
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          It's the best transfer I can think of. I'll have to wait and see.

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  6. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Rvp (c) doing ok so far

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    1. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      thanks for the update

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  7. For Fuchs Sake
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Think Michu is a must for the next few games

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    1. Jax
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      unless he gets booked

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      im just hoping he doesnt get a yellow today as i have arsenal and west ham players out this week. cant afford to have a guaranteed starter out!

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      1. Screeny
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        +1

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    3. thegaffer82
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      He's been a must for a while now to be fair

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    4. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Next few seasons.

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  8. Mr Mz
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Bale or Silva?
    Keep Tevez or get him out?

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  9. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Michu killing me. I still don't have him, I don't think I'll get him, it's to late now. Carrick MOTM so far.

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Finally I can find a fella here ðŸ˜
      Welcome aboard.

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        😀

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      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        love is the air 🙂

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      3. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        It's certainly a season defining non move!!

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    2. â­ Bemba_Da â­
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      you getting carrick then?

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      rdg ful AVL next 3.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        so I'm finding another Swan cover

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Well that's pure stupid.

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        2. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Is that "Swan cover" the highest scorer in the Premier League ? I thought not. Have fun.

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    4. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      u deserve to slide down the rankings for still avoiding him

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    5. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      De Guzman's been really well too!

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    6. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      De Guzman Motm for me (so far)

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    7. Beamer
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I thought of getting him after his 4th card, but the da he scored double against Arsenal, i got him... Better late than Never!

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  10. gravless
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Can we beat Man Utd?

    Highly unlikely I suppose.

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    1. heartsattack
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Looks likely enough to me. Depends what Fergie comes up with second half but Swansea look decent.

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    2. Djerbil
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      yes very high chances

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    3. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      YES WE CAN

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    4. Pinoche
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Fergie will have a word with ref at HT.

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      1. Mulder
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        This.

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    5. RÏÉ BY
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      with that defence you have every chance

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    6. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Just play till it finishes. The thing few teams seem to have mastered when playing Utd.

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    7. jose-mourinho
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      i usually just watch the final 10min... no panic... its still a draw... not behind yet

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  11. FBI Man
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Yellow card for michu b great

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Best if he gets one against Villa.

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  12. Viper
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Well lads, Only dropped 200 odd places which isn't the worst.

    I'm guessing that despite having RVP, that assist will do me more harm than good seen as I didn't captain him.

    Nervous about the Chelsea boys aswell!

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  13. andres
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    How is the rafael injury looking, any update?

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  14. heartsattack
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Rooney looks shit today ðŸ™

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      I agree.

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    2. Optimus.
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      been on the sauce/grannies id say

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Thought it was Daddies sauce?

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    3. .
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      He always looks shit, how is he playing though 😉

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      1. heartsattack
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        Like he has a bellyful of turkey dinner 🙂

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  15. Djerbil
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Nolan->Taarabat.. yay/nay??

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      nah bit late now

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    2. Sean.
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      no, he's off to the african cup soon

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      1. Djerbil
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        for the next 2 weeks only

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    3. kaz 96
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      nay.

      nolan faces reading next week

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I have both Nolan and Walcott and I have to sell 1 or play 4-3-3

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    4. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Nolan to anyone!

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  16. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    I'd love to sell Rafael this week but if it's part of a 4 point hit I might avoid. Watching Man Utd defend this year has been an unpleasant experience!

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    1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I am waiting for more news. My only issue is there are 3 days until the next game and limited training time in between so not sure he will be fit

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I've really enjoyed it. If they defended as well as they attacked the league would be a foregone conclusion.

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  17. Cheggers
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    took michu out for silva ðŸ™

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      😯

      Why man, why?

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        fancied city to do more damage than they did. think ill just get him back very soon

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        1. Somalion
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          If he doesn't get booked then do that definitely. You lose much money on him?

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          1. Cheggers
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            nah, .2m

            might leave it next week, depends on if Clichy will play or not

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            1. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Ah not too bad at all then. Yeah but if he is playing I'd like to have him.

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    2. Somalion
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      😆

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  18. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Michu, next season...

    Forward.

    Price? 8m or more?

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      10-11

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    2. Viper
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      9.0m striker

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    3. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      easily 9-9.5

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    4. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      9 and forward

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    5. Bad Seed
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      More. Wasn't Siggy 9?

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    6. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Depends if they sign a striker in Jan and Michu goes back to playing in the hole.

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    7. Somalion
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Gotta be in the 9-10.5 area. Will be the first player in my team.

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    8. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      14.5m

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    9. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      9.5m mid

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    10. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      which means not many people will invest as sometimes he will play in midfield and be out of position

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Just change your name to 'Dumb'

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        1. Mull
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          It's a valid point. Look at Papiss, he's playing OOP on the LW and he's doing f all.

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    11. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Next question...

      If he is a forward and 10m, would you get him?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Nope, second season wont be as good. Never is

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        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          This is at least Michu's second season playing like this though. He was very similar in La Liga and scored extremely strongly too.

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      2. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yes. 10 mill for the highest scorer in the league the previous season? Yes please.

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      3. kaz 96
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        nope

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    12. gera.bostock
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      9.0 mid

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    13. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      9m striker

      not more than that considering he very often plays in the hole

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    14. Champy
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Yes 9 I reckon if he keeps it up and a forward as well, and he will still be bought by a lot of teams also

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      1. Aaa fantasy
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        he'll be at united next season!

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    15. DLL18
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      9m Striker, depends if he folds in the 2nd half of the season though, seems to happen quite a lot.

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  19. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Hairdrier from Fergie at half time hopefully.

    Another RVP goal or assist and I'm happy.

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  20. Viper
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    A. Anyone doing Cazorla -> Bale or is it better just to leave it be?

    B. Is RVP likely to get his rest vs. Newcastle or WBA?

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      A - I am

      B. - depends on score here. I would guess WBA. But.... ?

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    2. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Keeping cazorla
      Should play 60 mins

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  21. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Wake up late and see Michu goal + RVP assist... 😀

    How are both teams playing?

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      United looked like they were going to stroll but Swansea have come back into it in the last 20 minutes..

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    2. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Swansea ripped united apart last 20mins.

      Been a half of 2 halves 😉

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    3. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Man U started best then Swansea came right back into it. Vidic and Rooney not too great. De Guzman doin his thang in midfield.

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    4. FPLCEO
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Man U a little sloppy a the back and look slow. Swans have had a real go but not hard enough in midfield.

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    5. Timon
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      swansea bossing utd. de guzman n carrick are running the show

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  22. Timon
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Valencia the culprit of united midfield now a days

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  23. FPLCEO
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Michu mata bale silva

    Benteke RVP Ba

    Who to captain next week? Currently on Benteke as worried RVP will rotate but Michu will surely score on this form against crappy reading?

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    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Reading were surprisingly good against City.

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      1. FPLCEO
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Fair point....they will go after swans far more though and get caught

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  24. Ginkapo FPL
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Are we sure we dont want Michu to get a yellow? Every man and his dog has him now, but will they cope with losing him?

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    1. r0nh
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      This is the one week I don't want him to get booked!!!

      3 Arsenal players & 1 West Ham ðŸ™

      Plus 1 injured player

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      He plays Reading next week. Of course we don't want him booked.

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  25. nzsheep
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Cmon Rooney get the father christmas oufit on and do your thing

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  26. Van_de_Fart
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Good afternoon all. I only have 4.9m for a defender! thinking of putting in a Fulham Defender! My question is HUGHES (4.5) or HANGERLAND (4.8)?

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    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I wouldn't get a Fulham defender TBH. But of those two, Hangeland

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        I'm with SAF on this one

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        1. Van_de_Fart
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          12 years, 12 months ago

          thanks, Any suggestions then? 4.8m budget

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          1. PGR
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            12 years, 12 months ago

            Cameron. Tonight!! or else he'll go up

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          2. Ginkapo FPL
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            12 years, 12 months ago

            Davies?

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    2. FPLCEO
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      12 years, 12 months ago

      Form says no Fulham at the moment.....def hanger out of those two mind

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      1. Van_de_Fart
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        12 years, 12 months ago

        Thanks, any suggestions for 4.8m?

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  27. fijuhmon
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    12 years, 12 months ago

    Did Rafael -> Enrique 🙂 this week and currently running with

    Jussi, Bego
    Enrique, Cuellar, Nasty, Nelsen, Clyne
    Mata, Santi, Michu, Sess, Punch
    RVP, Long, Tevez

    You reckon Long will start against QPR or should I get rid off him? Tevez is a problem also, should find funds to do ship him out for Suarez.

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  28. Cheggers
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    final score predictions?

    1-2 for me

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    1. jose-mourinho
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      united to go behind first... 2-1 then stage a comeback... 2-3

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    2. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      ps - phil jones is not a full back

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    3. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      2-4

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  29. The Light Knight
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    United's 4 attacking players have been crap. If they wake up, United should walk this

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  30. jose-mourinho
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    valencia from hero to zero

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