Dugout Discussion
23 December 2012 3491 comments
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Seal
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    rooney cost utd the game there. the worst performance from him i've ever seen

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    1. Something Clever
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Nah, he's played worse for England many times.

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  2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    great match.....
    BAPs for RVP???

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  3. Jebiga
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    any Baps for RVP ?

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      1 at the very most..

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Agree....

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  4. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Michu Yellow ... ??

    Will he play next match.. ?

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      no yellow

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    2. mutatedllama
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      No yellow.

      Michu (C) next week looking tasty.

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    3. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      No yc, all good

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    4. michaelington
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      What yellow

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  5. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Was thinking about bringing in Valencia or Young for Newcastle, I certainly won't be doing so now...

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  6. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    4 minutes of Fergie time n Utd fail to score

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    1. Alton E.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      what is going on?

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  7. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    BAPS??

    Evra 3
    Michu 2
    De Guzman 1

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    1. McDog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Evra 3
      Williams 2
      Michu 1

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        YC will hinder Williams' chances a little, though.

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  8. Nopli
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    My StrikeForce is Shite.

    Rooney 1
    Tevez 2
    Torres? 3? 🙂

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    1. michaelington
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Never get Torres, ever.

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    2. PainInDiaz
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      0?

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  9. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    bonus predictions please???

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    1. Viper
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Evra 3 Michu 2 De Guzman 1

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    2. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      just wait

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  10. Kagawa-san-mia
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    I am going to lose to this team in the cup because downing decided to play some football

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1457354/event-history/18/

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    1. matthewhagon
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Two United strikers will cost you your place in the next round

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        1. Kagawa-san-mia
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          hasnt cost me the last two weeks, improved my ranking the last two weeks

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          1. matthewhagon
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Thats not this week though!!

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              1. Kagawa-san-mia
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                rooney fluffy his chances is the only reason ur saying this

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                1. matthewhagon
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Bonus points may save you.

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          2. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            benching Bego and having both Roon and RVp was you problem to be fair

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        2. Jax
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          united's first draw of the season.

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        3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Blasted Rooney cost RVP today.

          Couple of situations where a decent pass and RVP was in.

          Plus RVP hitting the bar and shot blocked on the line.

          The booking just rubs it in for us RVP captainers.

          But at least he got something.

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          1. Manani
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I chose Rooney over RVP, but at least Rooney is getting the chances, although he is very sluggish today.

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          2. Godfather Bandit 42
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Would have loved more from RVP but the very least that can be expected from a (C) choice is an assist.

            I don't understand the 'RVP Fail' statements.....

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            1. FUNNY_OLD_GAME
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              +1
              on a fairly low scoring week I'll gladly take my RVP (c) assist.

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        4. Manani
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          rooney is very poor.
          guess I jinxed him 🙁

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          1. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Lend him a tenner.

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        5. Gobigorgohome
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Rooney was terrible. Unbelievable performance.

          bps prediction

          Michu 3
          Evra 2
          Chico/ William 1

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          1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            rvp 0???

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            1. Gobigorgohome
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              1 may be. But Yellow and some shot off targets might cost him.

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          2. The EJJ
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I'd take that.

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          3. Viper
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Evra 3 Michu 2 De Guzman 1 imo..

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        6. McSauce
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          52 pre bonus with Mata still to play and culler off the bench with 6! happy enough this week decent score!

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          1. Balotellitubbies
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            53 for me dont think there'll be much of a spread this week.

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        7. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Bap Chap, REVEAL YOURSELF! 😀

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          1. Jax
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            the game's been over less than 10 mins. chill.

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        8. Nopli
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Yeah am through to 2nd Round Of FPL CUP . Its Official Now . 🙂

          Am winning 48-37 Rival players finished , Torres and Mata to play for me 😉

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          1. matthewhagon
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Me too

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Williams 3
            Evra 2
            Michu/Chico/De Guzman 1

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            1. Acquafresca
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              U sure?

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            2. McDog
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Swap the 3 and 2 I reckin

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            3. blue cheese
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              ^ This!

              Williams 7 blocked shots?! 😯

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              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Maybe his shot off target will give it to Evra

                😯 I know...

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              2. McDog
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                7? 😯

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                1. blue cheese
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Aye. 7 shots blocked, 2 interceptions, 11 clearances!

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              3. Billy Gilmore
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                😯

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            4. The Baines
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              come on man.. Michu had lots of shots off target..

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          3. NATSTER
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Sorry. Please anyone link me to predicted Baps?

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            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Not done yet...

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              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Or what King Eric posted for the earlier ones 🙂

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            3. NATSTER
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Thanks.

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          4. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Retrospective red for Williams? Yellow was for afters not the initial assault I think.....

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            1. Balotellitubbies
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Prove he wasn't trying to clear it.

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Thanks for the answer Balotelli......tubbies

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            2. Acquafresca
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Stupid comments like these...oh dear

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Actually Acquafresca.........oh nevermind.....you always seem so angry, I won't bother.....

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              2. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Have you seen it again? All I'm saying is it certainly looked intentional......sorry for asking a question....

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                1. Acquafresca
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  You cant prove that. Its all speculation.. for all we know he was clearing the ball

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                  1. Jafooli
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    'Stupid comment' and then you answer it.......you need to seriously chill fella....

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                    1. Acquafresca
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      Just use logic before posting something like this. Its quite obvious if you just think a little..

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                      1. MattTheDamon
                        • 13 Years
                        12 years, 12 months ago

                        +1

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            3. Manani
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              but I think he can get away like saying he mishit the ball etc.

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Thanks for the answer Manini

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            4. Scroobius Mac
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Very much doubt it.

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Thanks for the answer Scroobius

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            5. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Can't be retrospective if the ref saw and dealt with it

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Fair one....

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            6. UnderstandablyDistraught
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              There is no way of knowing for sure if Williams did it intentionally so it wont happen. The great probability is that it was intentional and if I was RVP I'd meet him outside the dressing room

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              1. Jafooli
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Cheers mate...

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          5. matthewhagon
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Mata quiet day please, let Hazard go wild

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              1. crystalpalaceRus
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                +1

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              2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                this

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              3. Godfather Bandit 42
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                -10000000000

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            • Misery likes Kompany
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              still not tempted to visit wales i'm afraid.

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              1. UnderstandablyDistraught
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                It's a much nicer place to visit than England. You might like it

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              2. MattTheDamon
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                It rains, a lot.

                Source: lives in swansea.

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            • emperikal
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Hopefully all the goals were saved up for next game. Hoping Mata and Beneteke have ragers

              I missed the Chelsea lineup. Does he start?

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              1. Spiritof76
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Mata is in

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              2. GREENDREAMS11
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Yeah. Mata starts dude

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                1. emperikal
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Cheers

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              3. Tozier
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                You and me both. Mata + Benteke hattricks with ivanovic getting a red card. Sorted.

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            • Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Hows everyone on?

              All out on 56 plus Cameron 5 off bench.

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              1. emperikal
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                60 with Mata and Beneteke to go!

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              2. Acquafresca
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                64 + 10-12 predicted baps to come.

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              3. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                47 + Mata

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              4. Captain Shirokov
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                51.

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              5. Scroobius Mac
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                So 61 then.

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              6. McDog
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                49(-4) + 1 and Mata

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              7. Viper
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                45 with 5 off the bench (-4)

                So, 46! 🙂

                Not great!

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              8. Somalion
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                54 and hopefully a few BPs. Hoping to break 60 this week.

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              9. Call Me Old Fashioned
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                43 before baps. Benching Begovic and capt Tevez hurted me this GW

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            • Sweatygoals
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              WHYYYYY I BENCHED MICHU INSTEAD OF BERBA... Time to sell Berba- anyone with me?

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              1. Viper
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Never bench Michu! 😉

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              2. Jax
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                FAIL

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              3. MattTheDamon
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Benched the joint top scorer over someone who hasnt scored in 6 and hasnt looked like scoring in at least half of those. Fulham had no shots on goal last week and liverpool are generally solid at home.

                Yep, you made a mistake.

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              4. GREENDREAMS11
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Seems silly to be getting rid now just as their fixtures are picking back up

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            • The Light Knight
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Is Ramires starting?

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              1. blue cheese
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                No.

                Luiz and Lampard CM.

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                1. The Light Knight
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Oh well. Marveaux off the bench if he doesn't come on
                  Cheers Nitin. Hows things?

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                  1. blue cheese
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    Ah, Marveaux got an assist as well right? 😉

                    Not too good on the FPL front I'm afraid. On the verge of relegation from Bundesliga. 🙁

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                    1. The Light Knight
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 12 months ago

                      😉

                      🙁 Sorry man. I'm in a 6 pointer at the moment with Man of Kent to stay in the EPL. Going to the wire I reckon

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                      1. blue cheese
                        • 14 Years
                        12 years, 12 months ago

                        Ooh, nice! Good luck, keep the Canaries flying high 🙂

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                        1. The Light Knight
                          • 14 Years
                          12 years, 12 months ago

                          *flying barely high enough 😉

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                2. emperikal
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 12 months ago

                  Makes Luis a more intriguing prospect...

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                  1. blue cheese
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 12 months ago

                    ... and probably set piece duties. Sure does.

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            • Viper
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Evra 3 Michu 2 De Guzman 1 imo...

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              1. Acquafresca
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Williams 7 blocks..

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            • OPTA FPL
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              RVP 3 shots, all off target, 1 YC. 5 bonus in the pocket

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            • Nopli
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Michu to get 1 BP max

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              1. crystalpalaceRus
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                reasons?

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            • SirStevieG
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Rooney 7 shots on target. Wow.

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