Dugout Discussion
23 December 2012 3491 comments
Mark Mark
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Pinoche
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Average predictions?
    47

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Way less, 35-40?

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    2. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      47 is way too high. 35-39

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  2. chocolove
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    clark coming from bench -2 ðŸ™

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  3. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    What a load of pants. Any idea where the Chelsea baps will go?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      6x3 and 4x1?

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  4. Volk
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    67 before BPs. Not bad. How many of my players do you reckon will get BPs?

    http://i.imgur.com/Ovi8k.png

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    1. matthewhagon
        12 years, 12 months ago

        NIce team, and nice score

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      • NiceToMichu
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        3

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      • Mtka™
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I reckon Walcott, Silva, Vertonghen, Hazard and Enrique will all get bonus points. Possibly even Suarez.

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    2. Arx
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      This is stupid. Knocked out of the cup by a ghost team which has Terry, Ferdinand (Rio), Odemwingie (C), Song (wtf!) and Allen.

      Reason: Ramires.

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    3. gerrard08
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      benteke >> torres
      mata >> moses

      have silva and bale and michu already

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      My cup opponent. You have to laugh. 😀

      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1080192/event-history/18/

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      1. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        yeah. noticed that earlier. rotten luck for you

        modric and scholes made me laugh, though

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      2. moment
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        That's amazing.

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      3. ★FC Borecelona★
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        He has Cole coming off the bench to top it off 😀

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      4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Djourou and Scholes....
        Cole to come off the bench too!

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      5. Coldplay
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        The man had Paul Scholes. Fair play to him. 😉

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      6. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I feel your pain Doosra. ðŸ™

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      7. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Hehe, unlucky.

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      8. Fernando Torres
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Hahaha that is hilarious

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      9. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😆

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I thought that would give you lot a giggle. 😉

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      10. threeputt
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        at least you qualified 😥

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          There is that ... sos.

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      11. JWF
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Modric made the difference there

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Best player on the park.

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      12. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        He gave you a chance by not fielding a full team Doos.

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      13. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Ouch.

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      14. Nopli
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Oh Crap . Dont want to play him in the next round, thats for sure 😉

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    5. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      jesus just realised i am going out of the cup to a dead team

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      1. Arx
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Join the club.

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    6. PMC3
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Bap predictions for Chelski?

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      1. Namtab Nomolos
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        322222222222222222222222222

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    7. Hazard267
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      56-4 with possible begovic, michu, silva and suarez(C) bonus could i move up currently 16k…?.

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      1. Screaming Midget
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        It's all about mini leagues. A green arrow in those trumps any overall arrow.

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        1. Brookins
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          For you maybe.

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      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Dream on

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    8. Indalo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      LUIZ

      or

      NATSASIC

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      1. Sting
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Luiz

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      2. andres
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Is luiz on 4 yellows?

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        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          he already served a suspension for 5 yellow.

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        2. Scroobius Mac
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          No.

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        3. Marcos Reis
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          No.

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      3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        nastasic is sooooo....yesterday

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    9. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      much as i'm ecstatic about the cech save point I really cant remember more than 1 🙂

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      1. Namtab Nomolos
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Do enthusiastic backpasses from Luiz count?

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    10. Fishy
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      any point in keeping bassong

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    11. SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      After the Swansea - Man Ure game, the only way I'd have been knocked out of the cup for sure is a Torres brace...

      I assume the worst...

      I see 8-0...

      I panic...

      *click*

      I laugh.

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    12. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Well that should keep the bap judges busy for a while... 8 goals and only an assist for Mata, who'd have thought it...? 😀

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Luiz and Ivan for baps as they got goals from the back.

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        1. PMC3
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Surely Oscar will steal some too?

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Ramires?

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Saved me in the h2h that Mata only got an assist.

        I won't complain about h2h for at least a week.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Does week = 7 days or the 3 days of this GW?

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Ooooohhhh...

            The latter.

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      3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        If Mata had stayed on the pitch longer he could have had a hat-trick! ðŸ™

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    13. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Think Tevez could possibly shock the world and pick up 1 BP?

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I'd be glad if he did.

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    14. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I'm so great at picking captain.. I again captained the attackers who scored the least in my team.

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    15. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Villa lose 8-0...and Guzan scores 5 points! 😀

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      1. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        😆

        I thought he played pretty well considering...

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    16. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Chelsea Bandwagon now?

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      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Rotation in the middle will be a b*tch. Luiz, Piazon and Oscar played well for the time they got. A lot of competition for places.

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      2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        No.. Never... Never in a million years!

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    17. hazza
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      strolled past my ghost ship opponent who only had mata as chelski coverage

      72 pre-baps

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      1. Screaming Midget
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        ok

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      2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        great story

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    18. Beautiful Game
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      cazorla + holt > torres + peinaar for a hit???

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      1. arsenalfc01
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Yess excellent transfers

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        1. Beautiful Game
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          did peinaar get injured last night???

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      2. Beautiful Game
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        opinions very much welcome

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    19. arsenalfc01
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Pienaar in today for moneyball? Tomorrow maybe he will be at 6.6?

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    20. jdoyle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Question: I had Demel on my team to start, but he didn't and Baker is my first defender sub and he scored -2

      Will that -2 get auto-subbed on instead of Demel's 0 because he didn't play?

      This will be the difference in my cup tie... I just know it.

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      1. matthewhagon
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Yup!!

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        • df34
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Sorry mate, Baker comes in

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        • Coldplay
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Yeah he will.

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        • moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          'Fraid so.

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        • Gobigorgohome
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          you will get -2 Sorry ðŸ™

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      2. Mindless Freak
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Down to Bonus guys. Him: Ramires/ Evra/Zabaleta/Defoe(C)
        Me: Van Persie/ Silva (C)/ Begovic/Shawcross

        How come, the person you tie up against, always ends up getting same score as you arhhhh 😛

        If Ramires gets 3 and Evra gets 2 and zab and defoe nothing he gets 5 bonus points
        i can get 4 from Silva (C) and Begovic 1 = 5

        That means i will go through based on rank

        Arhh this is so confusing 😛

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      3. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        8-0 eh? And one Mata assist. Ah well....

        Anyone got any news on Rafael?
        If he doesn't play I've only got 2 defenders. I'm thinking:

        Rafael & Yaya ----> Davies & Bale (-4pts). Yay or nay?

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        1. Siva Mohan
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Yay

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      4. SpinyNorman [*_*]
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Lowton(c)

        ðŸ™

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      5. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Any Bap predictions for the Swansea-United game?

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        1. Coldplay
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Evra Michu and Carrick maybe

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        2. SpinyNorman [*_*]
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          MICHUUUU

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        3. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Williams 3, Evra 2, Michu 1 according to the Bap Chap.

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      6. Aditya K
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        If not for Oscar, i'd have qualified..Had to be him.. Its all fukin wriitten to lose to a ghost team who has no GK strating too..FML.

        His team: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/597114/event-history/18/

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        1. Mindless Freak
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Same here buddy but it's a bit tight 😛

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        2. Fernando Torres
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          To be fair, you got less than 41...

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          1. Aditya K
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Oh yeah forget abt that too..FML..Oscar ruined everything..its fukin written.

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      7. r0nh
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Last week: Liverpool 1-3 Villa

        This week: Chelsea 8-0 Villa

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        1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          next gw
          norwich 1 - 0 chelsea

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          1. Beautiful Game
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            dont talk like that...am thinking of taking in torres!!!

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          2. Jax
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            norwich won't win.

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        2. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Chelsea v Liverpool: 10-0

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        3. Gobigorgohome
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          next week. Villa 1-0 Spurs 😆

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        4. Studgie G
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          villa were poor last week as well they got dominated all game yet won only because they scored from the only chances they had on the counter

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        5. Colonel Shoe è‚æ± 
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          yep gutted as a liverpool fan that the wrong villa turned up

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      8. hazza
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        this kid hazard looks cheap at 9.5 😀

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