634x258 The Stock Check
19 January 2013 3903 comments
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Strikes from Christian Benteke and Gabby Agbonlahor are not enough as the Baggies boing back to rescue a point in midlands derby clash. Here’s the Stock Check on Saturday’s evening kick-off…

On the Up

Christian Benteke
A superb turn and an exocet shot that arrowed into Ben Foster’s net, handed Benteke his seventh goal of the season. The Belgian continues to be Paul Lambert’s key player and the sole Fantasy temptation in the Villa squad. With the Newcastle failing back four up next, Benteke’s chances of scoring back-to-back goals looks enticing.

Charles N’Zogbia
A former Fantasy favourite, at times in the first half, the former Latics winger sparkled and showed glimpses of talent that once made him a serious proposition. A brace of assists will immediately re-introduce him to the radar and, having made just his fourth start of the season, N’Zogbia he could yet emerge as a mid-price prospect in a Villa midfield that’s been bereft of Fantasy options.

Chris Brunt
Rather like the Norwich midfield assets, it appears that Brunt has been on a see-saw with James Morrsion as the main source of points for the Baggies in the middle of the park. A second goal in five games promotes Brunt’s stock this time around and arguably helps to oust Morrison as the primary target in Steve Clarke’s midfield.

Going Down

The West Brom Defence
With Gareth McAuley owned by over 8% of Fantasy Premier League managers and Ben Foster claiming over 6%, the Baggies rearguard goes on disappointing. Having started the season with three shut-outs in the opening five fixtures, Clarke’s side have gone six without defensive returns, conceding more than a single goal in their last four. It’s one clean sheet in 13 league outings, although McAuley’s assist for Odemwingie’s equaliser will sweeten that pill for tonight at least.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. SMOOTH
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    • 15 Years
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    was rafael injured 4 weeks in dec? cant recall

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  2. CFC1990
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    I am not sure about getting Aguero in.

    He is obviously class but for 10.9m, I would want to feel comfortable captaining him. I don't due to his rotation risk.

    Lots of people seem to be getting him in though.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      he is not a rotation risk. rested today as he's only just back from injury. Fully expect him to start next GW

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    2. Nomar
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      He's also not scoring regularly enough to justify £10.9m.

      Really, a guy like Lambert or Benteke or Lukaku can pretty much give us what Aguero i giving us at the moment for almost half the price.

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      1. denial
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        This is true. City are simply not scoring enough to warrant his price tag atm.

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  3. In Like Flynn.
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    Joe Cole in for a bonus point? I hope.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      3

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    2. Tin of Directors
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      3 apparently.

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      1. Dksbananas
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        Owen and Joe Cole Bonus points apparently; who would have believed it

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      Thanks Gink, T.o.D. bearers both of tidings glad.

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    4. Nomar
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      3 and they will be deserved too, he was the best player on the pitch today.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Thanks Nomar. Glad I went with my gut feeling.

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  4. Cooper123
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    Think I'm gonna keep my WC til next week. I don't anticipate being priced out of my prospective team or missing many double risers.

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  5. CFC1990
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    I am not sure about getting Aguero in.

    He is a fantastic player but for 10.9m, I would want to feel comfortable captaining him. I do not due to his rotation risk.

    Lots of people seem to be getting him in though.

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    1. Cooper123
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      Many people seem to think the risk of rotation with him when fit is only very minimal.

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    2. heartsattack
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      I really do think rotation risk is very small.

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
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      I think Aguero will play just about every week, before the injury he'd started in 6 straight and 10 out of 11 matches. He'll probably be rested occasionally, but not much more than Van Persie IMO.

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    4. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
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      See prev page.

      Not scoring regularly enough to justify £10.9m price tag when guys like Benteke, Lukaku and Lambert will probably score at a similar rate for nearly half the price.

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  6. kimoo
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    Repost need your help and more comments plz EDIT Link


    Night Mates

    i want to use my wild card this cuz it’s good fixtures for manu , chelsea , spurs , city

    and this my team i am still have 2 wc

    wt do u think about my team and who’s players should out – In

    http://imgur.com/XApoZEm

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Santi out for starters.

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      1. kimoo
        • 13 Years
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        wt do u mean santi out for better player like bale ???

        i want to know who is players should have in my wild card 🙁

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Copy everyone else.

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  7. SMOOTH
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    rafael missed 4 games in couple gameweeks back?? was he injured?

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    1. Mílanista
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      He was

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    2. Tin of Directors
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      IIRC, he was.
      Hamstring (I think)

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  8. New Ghost
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    Chamakh looks good in the Hammers kit. I wish him well.

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      He will be burnt out in 3 weeks.

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  9. ratski
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    Would you guys prefer fellini in a 3-5-2 or sturidge in a 3-4-3?

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    1. b3- bish bash bosh
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      Sturidge

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  10. ccc
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    About to activate the wc. Any opinions or advice?

    http://gyazo.com/56d05700c30e1e8a3b93c33ba64aa1ca.png

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    1. Cooper123
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      On WC you've got the perfect opportunity to get rid of Ba. Unless you're absolutely confident he won't be rotated with Torres

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      1. ccc
        • 13 Years
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        Ba could be an amazing asset. I will keep him, unless he does not start tomorrow. If he is benched, I have to spend 10m on Mata.

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    2. NiceToMichu
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      Sturridge -> Suarez?

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      1. denial
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        Don't get having Bego and Jaask in there, but each to their own on GK's.

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        1. ccc
          • 13 Years
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          great point. Bought them at 4.5 and 4.6. Not sure what to do right now, as both West Ham and Stoke defence has been relatively week as of recent.

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      2. ccc
        • 13 Years
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        Was thinking about this, but I think Sturridge may score comparable points at a far lower price. He seemed to link up well with Suarez. With this draft, I have the option of bringing in Suarez at a later date/

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  11. Bambi
    • 14 Years
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    Does anyone know how bad zaba's injury is before i go ahead with making any trasnfers?

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
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      Why make any transfers now?

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    2. Cooper123
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      Check the tweets

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    3. Dksbananas
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      Just an ankle sprain apparently but it sounded bad listening to radio 5 live

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    4. Mílanista
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      See the scout tweets

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    5. Captain Robert Hatch
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      “As for Pablo, he’s gone over on his ankle and it’s too early to say but I’d be surprised if he wasn’t fit for Stoke next week. We haven’t a game for seven days so he has time to recover but we’ll know more in the morning.

      ................"

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  12. r0nh
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    Just making my transfer...

    Will RVP get badly injured tomorrow?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      I'm thinking about going without him

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    2. Tin of Directors
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      He nearly got killed a few weeks ago so anything's possible.

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    3. Dksbananas
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      Computer says no

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  13. SC not pearls before swine
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    My cup opponent wildcarded this week and brought and Carlton and Joe Cole. D'oh!

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    1. chunk
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      Link your team instead of YouTube video

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      1. SC not pearls before swine
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        But the video's so good!

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  14. CFC1990
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    So who is going with the power five in their wildcard teams?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Silva & Gerrard want entries there.

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      1. JELLYFISH
        • 13 Years
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        Thinking of replacing Michu with Gerrard. Otherwise yes

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      2. Crouch Potato!
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        Yup, a flawed 5, 2 are outside the top 5 mid scorers.

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        1. denial
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          I think so yes. Questions over whether Michu and Fell can keep form going, but they can always come out later on.

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      3. ccc
        • 13 Years
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        I would not consider Silva. Gerrard should be considered.

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    2. ccc
      • 13 Years
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      I may go with
      Bale, Walcott, Michu Fellaini
      RVP, Ba, Sturridge (or Suarez)

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  15. fatherted
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    Making a habit of this now.

    Predicted 17-19 average

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      It's been confirmed at 18

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      1. Tin of Directors
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        Sorry - realised what you meant.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      You can be "Average Chap". 😉

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      1. fatherted
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        I will be average chap....

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  16. bmb100
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    Lukaku or Remy on a WC??

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    1. JELLYFISH
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      Remy

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    2. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
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      Lukaku.

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    3. v12w12
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      Rem

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    4. bmb100
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      Interesting, I'm undecided will have to think about it.

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    5. Nomar
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      • 16 Years
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      Both good.

      Lukaku may get rotated a bit. Remy pretty much is nailed on now and is our best chance for goals, as today showed. He'll get chances from Taarabt too.

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  17. Parm
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    Any idea s to who's rising this week?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Lots of players. Try totalfpl.

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      1. Parm
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        Ah, only Walcott of any significance.

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    2. Dksbananas
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      Lukaku, Dzeko, Sagna, Walcott, Federici, Pog, Mignolet, Fellaini

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      1. Parm
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        Fellaini?

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        1. Dksbananas
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          Judging by transfers in; i'm guessing yes

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        2. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
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          no chance.

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    3. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
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      129 Lukaku
      106 Dzeko
      104 Sagna
      103 Walcott
      97 Pog

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      1. denial
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        Sagna is significant. He frees up vital cash for WC team. Bargain at 5.1

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        1. ccc
          • 13 Years
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          this. Do you think he will rise twice?

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        2. Nomar
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          Agree, although Arsenal defence not great but 3 of next 4 are at home.

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    4. Lord Flashheart
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      Silva. Fletcher. Sturridge.

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        And Davies

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  18. Ginkapo FPL
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    I might triple on Liverpool. Look at their scores, so damn predictable.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      aprt from Stevie G

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  19. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    How much do you reckon Chicharito will play over the next two league games (Southampton, Fulham)?

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 days ago

      Rooney's back plus Kagawa has returned...don't think he'll get any PT.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        Might go Pod > Benteke for next week, then.

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        1. Acquafresca
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          Why not Fletcher?

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          1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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            Swansea has been pretty resilient at the back, lately.

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            1. Acquafresca
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              Fletcher scores when he wants 😉 and at home.

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        2. New Ghost
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          Fletcher perhaps?

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    2. In Bale We Trust
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      Can see Rooney playing.

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  20. Spencer
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    Power 5 midfield with RVP, Sturridge and Remy up front?

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    1. Cooper123
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      I wouldn't want to bench Sturridge or Remy though. Both could score regardless of fixture. If you rate them both hightly may as well play 4 in midfield.

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    2. Mílanista
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      No, have a better second striker and Pog. Too much bench stress otherwise.

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      1. Spencer
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        Cheers guys.

        Was just thinking that QPR-Liverpool have decent rotation, but what you guys have said makes more sense.

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    3. ccc
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      I did not see the QPR game. How did Remy look?

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        Fast. And a cool finisher too.

        Newcastle are good at scouting and they wanted this guy to replace Ba so you can be pretty confident in his ability. Will be full of confidence too after notching on his debut.

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  21. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
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    Ok, here's a better version (i'm still learning how to use the new excel 😐 )
    http://i.imgur.com/rWBtlER.png

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
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      Insane form.

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    2. Spencer
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      Very nice GB

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      much better 😀

      I find I have to draw everythng as a scattergraph then change the format of the graph.

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    4. Chazza
      • 16 Years
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      I don't understand his superb form, the stats haven't really backed it up.

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    5. Captain Robert Hatch
      • 15 Years
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      now add trendlines

      love me some RSD

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        It extrapolated itself, can't be bothered to change it:
        http://i.imgur.com/cUulNPB.png

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    6. ccc
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      nice

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  22. Gobigorgohome
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    4 points from two players. 🙁

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    1. gravless
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      Points are overrated.

      Flair picks are where it's at...

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      1. Gobigorgohome
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        it makes me feel a little bit better 🙄

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      2. kaz 96
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        Yeah Nolan(c) turned out pretty well

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      3. Still No Eye Dia
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        Spot the Pisse owner...

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  23. kaz 96
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    Next week

    Gerrard Michu Fellaini Mata Bale

    RVP Flethcer

    😎

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    1. Acquafresca
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      Looks tasty.

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      seriously tempted by Gerrard over Aguero atm

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      1. kaz 96
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        You would expect aguero to be nailed on with no europe but Mancini just never fails to disappoint you

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    3. kaz 96
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      With probably Remy on the bench

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    4. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Bale, Mata, Baines
      RVP, Aguero, Walcott, Fellaini, Michu

      😉

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      1. kaz 96
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        ON a WC milan?

        who are u planning on having as the third striker?

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        1. Mílanista
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          Used WC last week. Pog

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  24. Bellboys
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    Evening all, does anyone know what's up with the fiso site? Is there anywhere else to get rise predictions? Thanks

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      1. Bellboys
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        Thanks, much appreciated

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  25. v12w12
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    Fletcher or Dzeko?

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    1. alsybach
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      Fletcher!

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  26. kaz 96
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    Fiso's gone crazy.

    Really need to know wether sturridge and fellaini have any chance of going up.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Not tonight.

      http://www.totalfpl.com/pricechanges

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      1. kaz 96
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        cheers. ahh total fpl, the forgotten site 😛

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    2. Chazza
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      It's working fine for me. No, they won't tonight.

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      1. kaz 96
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        It's working but been stuck for a few hours now, i think

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      2. Spencer
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        Fiso not updated since 15.30 for me

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        1. gravless
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          7.00 am for me - what's going on?

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  27. Nopli
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    Can someone please give me the link to Bap Chap predictions? 🙂

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    1. Mílanista
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      Page 1.

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    2. Acquafresca
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      page 1

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    3. Nopli
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      Thanks all

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  28. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    A. Adam Johnson and Hazard
    B. Pablo and Mata

    for the rest of the season

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  29. Back on the horse
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    is Mata worth 10m?

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      no

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    2. Bolt-on
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      Yes

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    3. New Ghost
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      Yes.

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    4. Pat Mustard
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      No.

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    5. v12w12
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      No

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    6. gravless
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      You his agent?

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    7. Back on the horse
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      I see, fairly split

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  30. Bolt-on
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    Love my football but the African cup of nations has always been a punish to watch

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