Dugout Discussion
30 January 2013 2681 comments
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Six more Premier League encounters bring Gameweek 24 to a conclusion this evening, with a plethora of heavy-hitting Fantasy talent on show. While Robin Van Persie sports the Fantasy armband for thousands against the Saints at Old Trafford, our remnant Arsenal double Gameweek assets face up to Liverpool at the Emirates. With Juan Mata and company looking to deny Reading their third straight victory and Everton facing an enticing home match-up with an out-of-form West Brom, there are points in the air tonight as Phil Collins might say.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom now has its net cast wide, looking to gobble them up, along with the joy and agony of those within its virtual walls.

The big team news tonight is that Rafa Benitez chooses to stick with Fernando Torres up front for the trip to Reading; the Spaniard keeps his starting role having notched from his 90 minutes against Brentford in the Cup, Ba is presumably being preserved for the weekend trip to former club Newcastle. There’s no John Terry in the Blues lineup either, while Ryan Bertrand retains a midfield role in the absence of Eden Hazard.

Elsewhere, David Moyes makes the decision to drop Nikica Jelavic following his poor run of form; the inclusion of Johnny Heitinga is likely to see Marouane Fellaini restored to his advanced role in tandem with either Victor Anichebe or Kevin Mirallas. At Old Trafford, Sir Alex Ferguson tweaks the ire of Fantasy managers by resting Rafael – Chris Smalling comes in at right-back as United take on Southampton who themselves make a change at full-back: Luke Shaw is replaced by Danny Fox. Chris Hughton brings back Seb Bassong, Wes Hoolahan and Anthony Pilkington as Norwich look to end a dismal run of results as they host Spurs. Andre Villas-Boas rings the changes from their FA Cup at the hands of Leeds – Jermain Defoe is fit to return, whilst Hugo Lloris, Kyle Walker, Michael Dawson and Mousa Dembele are also drafted back in.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Avg?

    Im on 46(-4) with a predicted 3-6 baps.

    Red arrow surely?

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    1. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
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      Yeah red arrow for you, average around 40 I reckon.

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      It'll be around 42 probably. I reckon you'll get a small red arrow.

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  2. ccc
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Considering Rafael > Baines & Gibbs > Enrique for a 4 point hit. Advice before I head off to class?

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      stay in school.

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    2. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Read up on what your teacher will be covering before you go to class.

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  3. Bambi
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    who to take gibbs out for?

    a) Azpilli
    b) Enrique
    c) Other

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    1. ccc
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      b

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  4. Sly Fly
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Where is that Bap Chap? I need to bribe him. That is how it works... Isn't it?

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I guess he's busy.

      and he also comes with a disclaimer.

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Never mind Bap Chap, I want actual baps!

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Me too. 😉

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  5. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Team A: Suarez & Baines
    CESAR / 3.9
    Bertrand, BAINES, TURNER, Clyne, Pearce
    Michu, Mata, Silva, Gerrard, Walcott
    SUAREZ, rvp, LeFONDRE
    BUT 0.2m short on value - could get in Pog

    Team B: Balanced
    MIGNOLET / 3.9
    Bertrand, ZAB, DAVIES, Clyne, Pearce
    Michu, Mata, Silva, Gerrard, Walcott
    GIROUD, rvp, STURRIDGE
    0.6m left

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  6. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on Gibbs and Berba? Out for long?

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Berba injured too?

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      1. bennydebull
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Berba was worse. Gibbs just a strain I think.

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        1. Kostja
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          well Gibbs looks like out for 3 weeks so it could be bad

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    2. Sly Fly
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Shoulder strain I heard? Surely not serious? And don't call me Shirley.

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      1. Sly Fly
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        For berbs...

        And why does my iPad auto-correct "berba" to "bearbaiting" lol?

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Dimistar injured?

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    4. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Gibbs 3 weeks, just on ssn - according to Wenger.

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    5. The King
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Gibbs out for 3 weeks.

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  7. Lizard Lips
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Did Enrique shift LW today or was he just bombing forward?

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    1. FPLFamily (Lee)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      He came on LW to double up on Walcott. Wouldn't expect him there next week, should come back in at LB though

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    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      In front of left back to try and double up and contain Walcott would be most accurate...

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  8. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Southampton looked absolutely great. Outplayed United in the second half today.
    Maybe, Adkins out wasn't too bad. Two great performances. Turning the corner.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Not seen as bad a half since the 1st half vs Spurs.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I don't like us narrow.

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  9. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Have you ever thought that this game is mostly luck and why do we spend so long playing it?

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It is mostly luck.
      Because we have nothing else to do.

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    2. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      When I'm doing badly, like this season, it's all luck. When I'm doing well, it's because I'm a genius.

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      1. For Fuchs Sake
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Ha ha too right! Just Rafa dropping Ba, Rafael coming on after 60 minutes, Reading coming back 2-0 down.

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    3. The EJJ
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Not mostly luck, if it was how do people consistently have great ranks and why on a whole people on this site will do far better than counterparts who do not.

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      1. For Fuchs Sake
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Agreed there's a core pool of players and there's good insight on here, but just little twist and turns, this season more than any other make me believe it's more luck!

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      2. The3rdTurd
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        If enough people flip a coin many times, a very small number will get a string of heads.

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    4. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Don't agree with that myself... Look at my season history and see if you can guess which seasons I spent the most time on my team.

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      1. For Fuchs Sake
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Because you do not know the starting line up, it is luck, because a manager can drop a player with no obvious reason to do so! If we knew the line ups it would be less about luck, but it's mostly guess work. Especially with Rafa!

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        1. Scoredelario
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          So surely it would be 'skill' to weigh up these factors and conclude that buying ba is a bad idea from the outset, however good he may be.

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          1. For Fuchs Sake
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            But that was not obvious, if Rafa played him then he may well have scored a hat trick tonight.......... Luck!

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            1. A.D.D
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              u are bonkers JAM

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    5. FPL Touches
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      If that's the case then this site who probably no longer be giving advice if it was useless 🙄

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    6. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Skill gets you to around 2,410. After that, it's all luck.

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    7. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      You can't be consistently lucky. It's a contradiction in terms.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        You've never played me at pool 😉

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          How do you know 😉 ?!

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            🙂

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        2. For Fuchs Sake
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Ha ha!

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      2. For Fuchs Sake
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Of course you can! I know players who have not changed their team all season and they are still quite high up.

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    8. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      In my worst spells I've wondered if it was worth putting so much time in.

      And the truth is it isn't - if you're spending every hour here. Because much of it is a gamble between A & B and there's no sure way to know which way it'll go.

      But it's still worth playing.

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      1. For Fuchs Sake
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Too true! I think that's what I'm getting at! Less time thinking more time gut acting!

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  10. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    LateRiser might be the standard-bearer, but other people had Giroud as well (and Mata, and Bale, and Theo, and Baines). 😎

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I'll hog credit only for Ollie. Rest are yours. 😀
      Nicely done.

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      1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I will not say I got the idea from you, but I will say that your decision to go with him for the DGW made me stop waffling and go for it. No regrets.

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          As long as we hog em points 😉

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      someone even had Cabaye.

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      1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        He was looking lonely I imagine.

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      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I cheered for you, ok.

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      3. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Very nice 😎

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    3. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Well played buddy.

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      1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Thank you. I'll stop fishing now.

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  11. kingozil-The Germans once a…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Should I take a punt on tremmel??

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      yes

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  12. PlayPercentage
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Baines finally delivers big time...I didn't have him of course.

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  13. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    51 green or red

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      playing roulette?

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      green at your rank

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    3. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Rank?

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    4. The King
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Green

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    5. Keane There Dunne That
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Green

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  14. MGMT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Bale BPs?

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    1. The King
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah, surely

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    2. FPLFamily (Lee)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Deserves them for that strike. Amazing stuff.

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  15. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    41 pts here. Green right?

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      red

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  16. meule
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    So gibbs > GJ even tho they got man city away ?

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    1. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Holding off a week. No rush. Also want to see if Enrique might start.

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      1. meule
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Davies Demel Zab is a bit weak for next week

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  17. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Since bringing Baines in on my WC ... 5, 6, 14

    nice 🙂

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😀 Great work on Rooney(c)

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  18. EoinM
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    IN:? Giroud or Fletcher
    Out:? Ba or Tevez

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Giroud for Tevez.

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  19. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Game plan at 1945... Save transfer, get two DGWers next week...

    Game plan at 2200.... Ba out, Cazorla out, Gibbs out -8 😀

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😆

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    2. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😀 something similar here with save trasfer to Berba and Gibbs out -4

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    3. Sly Fly
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Can I shake your hand?

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    4. Koflok
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Massive kneejerk 😀

      At least keep Ba.

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  20. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    How do people have such high scores? I thought with rvp captain fail the scores would be a lot lower. Or is it just the smug ones coming online to gloat?

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    1. Sly Fly
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Meet my friend Baines...

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  21. kingozil-The Germans once a…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Guys, please help. Not getting a reply. Should I take a punt on tremmel and why did Shaw just play for 30 minutes?

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    1. Sly Fly
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Wait a day or two on Vorm as he may or may not be off to Barca I think. As for Shaw this is annoying to me as I was goings to get him in myself.

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  22. EoinM
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    What did ye all get boys?

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    1. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      55 pre bp's

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      1. EoinM
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Green > for u

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  23. PlayPercentage
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    What's the average going to be?
    Any ideas?

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  24. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Last weeks team would have beaten this week's by 7 ... and would have a WC still to play. Bloody knew it. 😡

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  25. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I can make one transfer, who should I take out?

    A) Luiz - may be back for Saturdays game, Chelsea have good fixtures but more likely to be rotated now that Terry is back.
    B) Cazorla - looking like he could produce still, but low point scoring recently
    C) Fellaini - playing deeper and no real returns of late

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  26. Konig Luther
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    selling gibbs.... jose henrique, clichy or nastasic?

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    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      zaba

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        i wanted zaba but don't have money for that.... 5.9 (by 0.1)

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  27. DAV087
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Worth taking a one week punt on Giroud? Currently have Ba and am sick of the 1 pointers, but will want Sturidge for the DGW.

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  28. joker7
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    How is Cueller doing for Sunderland anyone know how long he will be out for ?

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  29. Ash
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    How bad was Berbatov's injury?

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