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This season’s Big Numbers articles for members will follow on from the weekend’s action as always, with new contributor, “In Tommy We Trust”, taking up the editorial reins. Tommy takes we take a look at the data gathered from the weekend’s action in the members’ area as both Merseyside clubs register impressive attacking statistics, while casting an analytical eye over a handful of forwards from Saturday and Sunday’s matches.

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  1. onionbarje
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Why do Arsenal need Cabaye

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    1. Fabio20
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      They don't.

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    2. CaTriEm
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Because, much like my local U-16 team, we need more players to field a Starting XI 😆

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    3. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      We have the quality in the CM, but hardly any quanitiy

      Arteta and Wilshere are not enough, and Ramsey is hardly top quality...

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      1. onionbarje
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        but you need defenders, they are all injured

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        1. The Machine
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          We ALSO need defenders. Cabaye isn't the only player Wenger is looking at, imo

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    4. FISSH
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Literally every team who gets a bid from Arsenal simply cannot agree to it, because they will be known as the team to finally sell a player to them. haha

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  2. The Other Mark
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Question: Looks like R. Morrison is going to fall to 4.4m and Lukaku may fall too. Is it worth taking a hit or two to protect team value? I'm hesitant to do it.

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    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely not

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      1. The Other Mark
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks. Pulled an idiotic move last night. Seen Coleman may rise and did Ivanovic -> Coleman without looking at who's expected to fall. Was looking for a rise when I should be worrying about who's falling. Ivanovic is only at like 1.x%. Could of used that FT on Lukaku, ah. Live and learn I suppose.

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        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Taking hits to protect 0.1 value. Ask yourself thus question. Do you want your striker to score next week or go up 0.1 instead?

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        2. Absinthe 42
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Lukaku is nowhere near a drop on Fiso.

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      No. You'll still have the same money in the bank.

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  3. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Zabalata signs new 4yr deal with Man City. SSN.

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  4. heco87
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Liking the big numbers, ITWT ... good article, cheers.

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    1. In Tommy We Trust
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks mate

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  5. The Machine
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    MEHmbers

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  6. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Tommy, a cracking little statistical round up there fella.

    Well done mate.

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    1. In Tommy We Trust
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks Evs.

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        A debut of Michu style proportions 😉 !

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        1. In Tommy We Trust
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          😳

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        2. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          At least we hope it's Michu - Petric started well last year too... 😉

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      2. srwprince
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Will anyone do some analysis on the Bonus Points returns and how they were delivered (i.e. we can see the number of passes completed = points scored etc?)

        I looked at the Bonus Points System scores; scored by each player that played > 90 mins
        the averages are as follows:
        GK - avg 5.3 BPs - Modal Group - 7 pts
        DF - avg 4.9 BPs - Modal Group - 6 pts
        MF- avg 3.3 BPs - Modal Group - 4 pts
        FW- avg 5.4 BPs - Modal Group - 2 pts

        So in short that tells me that the most consistent groups of players to pick up the BPs look like they would be defenders / GKs as they have high averages and a good chance of hitting that level as well as Modal is high.

        Whilst MFs, are the worst average and a low Modal -
        FWs are the most erratic.

        Whats also interesting is that the defenders scored so highlight despite only 3 goals coming from Defenders & 3 assists (compared to MF 6 goals & 9 assists).

        What I am keen to know is what stats the Defenders are picking up the points on ...

        cheers
        SP

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    2. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      +1

      Great bunch of stats.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks Jonty

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  7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Only three of those numbers count ... 😉

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    1. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Which ones?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Anelka, Lampard and van Persie. Touches are just foreplay ... 😉

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Tease.

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  8. Kieranduru
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Great, Well done Moyes! Already lost Thiago Alcantara by being too slow. Ok no worries, you have the whole world to choose from. Come on, be creative!

    Who are we linked with? Baines and Fellaini. Jesus Christ, Even that's been rejected..

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      he bids to low ans thats the problem

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    2. J.A.R.V.I.S
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Smart money is on a last minute bid for Thomas Gravesen...

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Its the right amount. Maybe 5M short. I wouldn't wanna overbid.

      There's a reason no one triggered that clause.

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  9. Sarri-ball
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like Coleman going up 2nite. So ivanovic- Coleman or shaw?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Wait. Sod a £0.1m, better to get injury/fitness news first. Coleman unlikely to get 2x rises this week.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      No, Ivan will be good this year, get rid of Hazard if u have him. Bench Ivan for his blank.

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  10. martymcfarty123
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Is it wise to play the money game or should I focus on points. i.e. I fancy Clyne over Shaw generally, but reckon by next saturday Shaws price could rise by £0.2m - and there are no urgent transfers I need to make at this point. Makes sense to do the transfer no??? I have never took it this seriously before so not sure how people play this.

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      jeepers why Clyne over Shaw? Shaw future top level and was attacking like a demon.

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    2. Sarri-ball
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I'm thinking the same 2 be honest. But think shaw will play reg and get points. Price wise shaw won't get 2 a crazy amount mite make 0.1-0.2 max

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      1. martymcfarty123
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        I'd be happy with that. Just want the 0.2 so I can sell later in the season.

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    3. JT's Dog
        12 years, 5 months ago

        most peopel in the know sway towards holding off till end of week for transfers even if it means cash increase.
        if i remember shaw had a few small injuries last season, so maybe worth waiting if you have cash

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      • Podge
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Players generally rise due to last weeks points (you cant have them 🙂 ), dont chase the rises unless you have a non playing player. Value will rise naturally with your points.

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    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Barkley needs a celebration. Not a patch on Welbeck Snipes's blugh blugh!

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    5. Vpan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      repost

      Best pair:

      a) Coutinho + Lambert

      or

      b) Nolan + Soldado

      or

      c) Nolan + Sturridge

      ???

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        I like them all so that's tricky.

        I'll go B

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    6. Trigg â­ï¸
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Hazard and Lukaku to RvP and Barkley. I have the exact cash.

      Very, very tempting.

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Why would you get Barkley?

        He's living on borrowed time, Gibson's return isn't far...

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        1. Trigg â­ï¸
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          It's all 99% about the RvP part of it, to be fair.

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    7. JT's Dog
        12 years, 5 months ago

        just for the fun of it, here is the truth
        aw-reet wan o them softy southern clubs is wanna buy wan o oor players again, yi know the wan thats iwiz gettin treatment. Go an get that keyboard that has the wan n two buttons missin so a can reply to them. An phone eddie stobbart te say we need another load o frenchies brought over.

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      • TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Afternoon all 🙂
        Interesting numbers.

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Afternoon fella.

          How's life down under?

          All the wrong way up and that 🙂 ?

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            All good Evs. Looking forward to the game. Might get a Toon defender & City forward.

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            1. Evs
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              I'm looking forward to a boring nil nil 😉

              Points, needed.

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              1. heco87
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                I hate waiting for a 0-0 ...

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          2. Sleep Talk
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Something like this I'm guessing: http://cdn.themetapicture.com/media/guy-bicycle-upside-down-other-side-world.jpg 🙂

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      • Sleep Talk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        A great read Tommy!

        A question to the Scouts though. I see that Begovic is topping the "Influence"-table at the moment, and Mignolet not far behind. I seldom see goalkeepers this high up on this table, what happened here?

        And what determines the Influence-score really? Touches? Passes? Saves?

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        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Saves with saves from shots from inside the box weighted more strongly. Pen saves also contribute of course. Personally, I think Begovic was the best player on show at the weekend - some incredible saves in that game.

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          1. Sleep Talk
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Cheers for the reply Mark.

            I agree with you on the Begovic match, truly saved Stoke from an uglier result. A class keeper.

            Would have been great if he had gotten some bonus points as well, it's performances like that which really should benefit from bonus points. Like Alex McCarthy for Reading last year against Liverpool.

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      • Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Early captaincy vote:

        a) Walcott
        b) Giroud
        (i expect an arsenal backlash)
        c) RvP
        d) Lambert

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        1. The Machine
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          A, from that lot

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          C).

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        3. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Van Wolfywinkle 😯

          Now there's a 'punt' 😛

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Ah early door gambling. Noice.

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        4. heco87
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          C but it'll be Soldado over here

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        5. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          c or d

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        6. Sleep Talk
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          a for me. Shots and crosses conceded by Fulham last match is an interesting read.

          Also, Richardson left the left side open far too often, figure Walcott will benefit.

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        7. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          RvP probably, maybe Rickie.

          I'd want to see a backlash from Gooners before expecting one, FUL tough cookies on their patch. Really hard to judge the mood of Gooners after that showing, I would say merely having Wally/Giroud is gambling enough at this stage.

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        8. Tabone
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          E

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          1. Tabone
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            C**

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      • JT's Dog
          12 years, 5 months ago

          @podge liked your wife team concept on last page.
          doubling up on big team defenders not a bad idea, good chance if one gets bonus they both will

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          1. Podge
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Ta

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        • Red Devil Swede
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          What if Arsenal loose out on Champions League? They'll be a force to reckon with (fantasy wise) in the league once they get all the injuries sorted out.

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        • GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Lovely debut, rock on Tommy 🙂

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            +42. 🙂

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          2. In Tommy We Trust
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks GW. Some major education going on behind the scenes 😉

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            1. Lateriser 12
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Haven't read the article but great to see you write one 🙂

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              1. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                Get yourself a shiny new membership and feast your eyes!

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              2. In Tommy We Trust
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                thanks 🙂

                *now get reading 😉

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              3. The Light Knight
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                I concur

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            2. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              You're being groomed for greatness 😀

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          3. Billy Gilmore
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            +1

            Well besides Andrew Johnson... 😉

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              😆

              You mean the QPR striker wasn't a creative influence for Sunderland? Eagle eyes there Billy!

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        • A.T
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Nice read that ITWT. Thanks.

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        • Reed_Rothchild
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Please go to Chelsea Rooney. You will be my centerpiece striker and sole Chelsea attacking coverage.

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        • The Machine
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          What is the cut off scorefor the top 100k, at the moment?

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          1. r0nh
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            One point could be the difference of about 10,000 places at the minute.

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          2. JT's Dog
              12 years, 5 months ago

              65-66 ish

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            • TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              66

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            • Diego Morethan
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              65 points gets you 104k, 66 88k

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          3. r0nh
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Arsenal are rapidly becoming a joke.

            This trip to Turkey has taken on considerable additional significance.

            Is this the end of Wenger?

            Welcome to the daily hot topic 🙂

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            1. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              To me and I could be completely wrong but Arsenal don't want to spend the money. They didn't go after Higuain with any conviction and the bid for Suarez was trivial at best. The directors happy with making a profit by qualifying for the Champs League relatively cheaply in comparison to other but they danger is that can catch up with you and theres only so many times you can ride your luck in the battle for fourth or Champs League qualifiers. Also Wenger doesnt know what a defence looks like.

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            2. GoonerByron
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              I'd really love to just fall asleep, wake up on 3rd September and go from there. Could be a really difficult couple of weeks for us as teams know we have cash in the bank and are panicking to sign players.. If we actually wanted somebody like Cabaye then I'm sure we'd have got him for less than 15 million if it was earlier in the transfer window but absolutely no chance now.

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          4. Milky
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Bale has been registered as part of the squad to play the Europa League game in Georgia later this week. He will face fitness test later and will feature if proven ok.

            Strange if he is practically a Real player as so many claim.

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            1. Frazek
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Well, he kind of had to be registered. Doesn't mean he'll play... which of source, he won't. But I'm still sticking to my guns, Bale stays and plays at The Lane this season.

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            2. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              I thought he'd be already ruled out of Swansea at home and would that not rule him out of this too?

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          5. Jönny
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Ahh, I do like these articles. Good work. One thing I would query is...

            "The United talisman has instantly reminded us all just what value his 14.0 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) price tag brings"

            ....not sure "value" is what it brings. Consistency perhaps, but value?

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            1. In Tommy We Trust
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Thanks. Everyone has a value whether it be good or bad 😉

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          6. Sweetpea
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Nor/WHam/Sou rotate well for 2 spots each week?

            Thanks.

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          7. McNulty
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Do the stat tables work for 2013/14 for any of you lot? I can't seem to get it to work, just 2012/13 data loads when I select 2013/14 from the drop down box.

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            1. In Tommy We Trust
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Select all matches as the filter option and they come up. Had me panicking yesterday

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            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              I'm OK, so far.

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          8. Jimbo123
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            Sooo, surely I wasn't the only one who had Lambert lined up to replace Lukaku this week?

            Are you still going ahead? Or concerned by Osvaldo signing?

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          9. Lauren1997
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 5 months ago

            sorry if this is a really dumb question, i know pretty much nothing about football but really badly need to beat some people i'm in a league with haha.

            i'm new to this game this year. can someone just sum up what players prices going up/down means? is it possible to earn more money so you have a bigger budget to spend?

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Exactly that. Player prices fluctuate based upon net transfers in/out within the game, so when a player becomes popular (Seamus Coleman is a current example) their price is likely to increase. My advice is not to focus on the price rises at the expense of getting players you want long term though.

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                My advice is the opposite. There are times when you have to go with the herd.

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                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 5 months ago

                  It has to be on a case by case basis - our rules of thumb differ but I wouldn't be surprised if we reached the same conclusions on many occasions despite our different starting points!

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              2. Lauren1997
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                ah ok, i think i get it now, for some reason i thought it would be down to how well they played etc. didnt realise it would be how many people brought that player.

                thanks a lot!

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            2. Podge
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 5 months ago

              Yeh if the rise 0.2 you get an extra 0.1 when you sell. After a few months it could be the difference between an 8.0 forward or an 8.5 one

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              1. Lauren1997
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 5 months ago

                ok, but if they rise 0.2 why dont u get 0.2? sorry if thats a realllly stupid question ha

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                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 5 months ago

                  Basically you only get half the profit when you come to sell the player because FPL are stingy like that!

                  Example:

                  - You buy a player at 6.0m
                  - He rises by 0.1
                  - The value of that player is now 6.1m and this is what would show in your team. However, if you sold him you'd only get 6.0m (they round down the profit)
                  - He rises by another 0.1
                  - The value of that player is now 6.2m. Now if you were to sell him you'd receive 6.1m.

                  (Conversely you suffer all price drops, i.e. if the player dropped to 5.9m you couldn't sell for 6.0m)

                  This is a good site to monitor when players are likely to rise/fall - http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

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                  1. Lauren1997
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 5 months ago

                    ok think ive finally got the hang of it. and making things better ive got coleman too!

                    thanks for explaining that!x

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                    1. GreenWindmill
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      12 years, 5 months ago

                      No problem, the site is set up to help more or less entirely to help people beat work colleagues 😉

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