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With another seven days left until the deadline for Gameweek 4, thereโ€™s plenty time to ponder the numbers in our Members section. While some Fantasy managers still contemplate pressing the wildcard button, we take a look at some of the most notable attacking statistics on offer so far โ€“ in the first in a series of three articles, we begin with the defenders.

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  1. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Is it just me or is asking for a rate my team kinda pointless considering we are only three games in? Few months down the line we will know proper form, rotation risks, bargains and the like at this moment we barely know anything its just pot luck in my opinion

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I kinda agree but, yes, there's no point in asking for a RMT unless you're inherently insecure and have no capabilities of making a decision by yourself.

      There's enough info here to make a brilliant team without an TMT, but some are just a bit insecure so need one ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        *TMT? ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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        1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Double fail xD unless you are pointing out the error and not correcting it.

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Unless you're a complete f-ing idiot, you'd realise what the fail was and get on with it.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Calm down ๐Ÿ˜•

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              1. 4vets
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                I'm calm... just expressing an opinion.

                How are you?

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                1. Ryan
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                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 4 months ago

                  I'm good. I'm in a good mood after watching the first two races of the America's cup. I imagine its not getting the type of coverage in the US as its getting in NZ though.

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        2. Portuguese&Proud
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Troll my team ๐Ÿ™‚

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            ๐Ÿ˜†

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          2. Arsenal USA FC
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            I would fall into that category ๐Ÿ™‚

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          3. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Trash my team

            A feature where ffs members express disappointment in an rmt and suggest players such as:

            Gareth Bale, Vincent Kompany and luis suarez and (c) options for gw4.

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        3. Tricky
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          ^^^Exactly!! ^^^^

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Well if I was on a WC it might be useful to get some opinions on the nailed on status of some players. Personally I think its a terrible time to WC because we are still in the dark as to who the certain starters are in many cases.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry? How on earth is an RMT a good way to "get some opinions on the nailed on status of some players"?

        Baffled.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          In case you miss something that others might pick up on. Its fairly common.

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Sorry, Ryan, but that has nothing to do with nailed-on-ness (ooh... like that!) unless you come on here once a week and expect others to sort your team out for you.

            Some may do that but that's not what this place is about imho.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 14 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              I see bad RMT's all the time with players that shouldn't be there. I kindly give sound advice as to reconsider potential risks in their teams.

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              1. 4vets
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Kinda gone OT ๐Ÿ™„

                Take this one up another night as I have to sleep.

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        2. rozzo
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I myself ask for other peoples opinions so i dunno why i'm moaning ๐Ÿ™‚

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  2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hello ultra deadzoners.

    No football, off peak hours.

    AAnd pages that stick for hours!

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Atleast questions get answered

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah its a bizarre time. It would be a good opportunity to have some proper discussion if everything hadn't already been discussed to death. Eg merits of RVP no RVP and 433 etc.

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  3. Arsenal USA FC
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    RMT Please

    Mignolet - Boruc

    Zabaleta Coleman Coloccini - Collins Chester

    Walcott Oscar Brady Silva - PHernandez

    Sturridge Giroud Benteke

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No Utd? Looks OK though, I'd have to say.

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    2. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Gk standard but gd
      Defence is also standard but seems solid
      not a fan of your mid, dont like oscar (rotation) or two cheapies l
      Solid standard front line

      Overall a bit weak in midfield but solid team. Similar to most other teams on here so either do reall well or bad

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      1. Arsenal USA FC
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Do you have any player suggestions or changes?

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  4. The Light Knight
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Brazil 6-0 Australia
    Heskey is clearly having an effect

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    1. Ranieri's Ghost
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ouchie, low blow!

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  5. The Hound
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Read something earlier about benteke been rested, on ssn app, so doen't suffer burnout. Do u think this refers to cup games, random matches down the line or the next match?

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    1. Tricky
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Villa will never rest him

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He might get a rest in a cup game but will play every PL game

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  6. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    UCL Deadzone Leauge Anyone?
    We Are The Dead
    654036-484329
    http://en.uclfantasy.uefa.com/UEFA

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    1. Mitchacho
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah, I'm in, if you don't mind. Care to share teams or are we keeping our little hidden gems to ourselves? I always want to keep them a secret but usually can't help myself.

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        First Draft for me is Power Strikers

        Bravo / Helton

        Alaba / Fuchs / Jordi Alba / Filip / Ambrose

        Ribery / Matuidi / Bruno / Horváth / Djuricic

        Messi / Ronaldo / Lewandowski

        Certain to change

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        1. Mitchacho
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Courtois / Lopez

          Ivanovic / Juanfran / Maxwell / Siovas / Ambrose

          Bale / Lampard / Pogba / Bernard / Fuster

          Messi / Ibrahimovic / Martinez

          Really hoping I don't have to change it! Well pleased with it.

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          1. Freshy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Anchilotti has said Lopez for Spanish League / Casias for Champions League.
            According to a few people today anyway.

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            1. Mitchacho
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              Cheers. At 3.5, he can just be my benchy anyway.

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    2. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Joined up. Look forward to beating both those teams ๐Ÿ™‚

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  7. Portuguese&Proud
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you keep from these 2?!
    kind of worried about Silva gametime altough i know he's a far better prospect when you look at attacking returns.

    A) Silva
    B) Yaya

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Silva

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Can't see Silva being rested much, he would be my pick (though I don't have either right now).

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    3. Tricky
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Silva everytime. Will outscore yaya this season (Silva can be frustrtaing though)

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    4. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Long term - neither. I'd get rid of Yaya 1st though.

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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    5. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think the yaya yacht has sailed. He does this every year then tails off and becomes once in a while mine. Silva although consistent rarely explodeds. I don't doubt eithers security of starts tho. Silva likely taken off between 70- 90 mins tho.

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    6. Portuguese&Proud
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks for the feedback lads

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  8. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Norwich rotate beautifully with the following after next week:

    Fulham
    Stoke
    Hull

    Just in case anyone's got their eyes on any assets in those teams.

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Its nice to know as I have Chester and Murner but I try to keep my rotations fairly fluid across all 5 defenders. Clyne, Coleman and Mertisacker won't play every week either.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        You shouldn't have any problems getting 3 decent fixtures out of those for a while. Arsenal have decent fixtures. Southampton got some good home ones. Coleman's are imminently dodgy but really pick up from GW10ish IIRC. Good defense.

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Nice heads up, thank you. Think I have my backline sorted though and am going for Brady / Whittingham on the bench - but those considering Redmond may well be interested.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        No worries. Was a bit crazy on here tonight so I sought solace in the member's area ๐Ÿ˜€

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        1. Reedy
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Haha, don't blame you. Though I've quite enjoyed tonight's ups and downs. Well, the ups at least. I think I counted an up or two anyway ๐Ÿ™‚

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          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time

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    3. The Hound
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I only really like to rotate my defenders. Got hull/ nor at mo. actually think shawx/ huth will do well but they just seem so unappealing to me.

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  9. Cheeseoid
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    evening all. Hows tricks?

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      We are bereft. Pining for the fixtures

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      1. Cheeseoid
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Saturdays are the hardest day

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        1. Reedy
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          True!

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  10. Arsenal USA FC
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    What changes should be made to this midfield?

    Walcott Oscar Hernandez Silva Brady (.7 in the bank)

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      What do you propose?

      I'd sell some and buy some others ๐Ÿ™„

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    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Pray for Oscar
      Looking good

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    3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Think Oscar picked up a slight knock on international duty so just keep an eye on that situation. Silva's fixtures aren't great but unless you're on a wildcard I wouldn't bother shipping him. Overall, looks good.

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    4. Arsenal USA FC
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Oscar -> Lamps
      Hernandez -> HBA
      Silva -> Coutinho

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      1. Arsenal USA FC
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Over time of course

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      2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I don't like the 1st 2. The only reason I'd consoder Ben Arfa is because of his fixtures and in a couple of gameweeks time, Hernandez will have better fixtures than anyone.

        Oscar to Lamps - don't think it's worth an ft.

        Even the 3rd one, I think I'd prefer to double up with Michu - a goalscoring mid with outstanding fixtures from GW7 onwards. Or even Lamela - though see how he settles 1st.

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  11. BR
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Did anybody watch Germany - Austria the other night?

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  12. Basket
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    On my wildcard ... I wont bore ye with a RMT but I've a strong defence and attack, but id love some of yer help with my midfield.... currently I have it as

    Walcott, Coutinho, Kasami, Gunnarsson, Warde Prowse

    a total of 33 million to spend on the five places.. Who would ye have?

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Coutinho to Lamela

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Do you have Sturridge or Giroud? If you do I'd consider downgrading one of your expensive mids and upgrading any one of your other 3 mids who are all terrible. Kasami in particular is no where near nailed on and Ward Prowse isn't particularly nailed on either. I also think you can do better than Gunnarsson who plays a little deep but isn't too bad.

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      1. Basket
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        interesting stuff.. No I have neither, Benteke, RVP and Lambert up top with a view of switching to Lukaku next week.. I dont see very many mid price options in midfield though, any suggestions?

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          HBA, Nolan, Sissoko, Hernandez, Jarvis, Lallana, Brady The list goes on. There is an array of good options but many have not scored particularly well yet. Its early days and its only a matter of time before midfielders start to find their rhythm.

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  13. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Missed the deadline today ๐Ÿ™

    Dropped 253,192 places in rank

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    1. Captain Hindsight
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It was always going to happen. Should have captained Yaya Toure or Pabio Hernandez

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Ben Davies was the one I really overlooked

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  14. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Right... time for bed otherwise I may I get really moody! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Night 4shots

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    2. Arsenal USA FC
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Goodnight Then ๐Ÿ™‚

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    3. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Overtired? ๐Ÿ™‚ Good night 4Vets!

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Overtired? Me? F-off you twat! I'm bloody well coherent-ish and happy. What are you, loser? F....

        Ermm... night Reedy ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  15. Eze on the Eye
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT. Going for BP's with this formation.

    Mig
    Ivan-zab-Jose Enrique-vidic-walker
    Walcott-Nolan
    Eto-benteke-giroud

    Hernandez, Brady and digakoi subs

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    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No. Don't do it

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      1. Arsenal USA FC
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        343 or 433 but definitly not a 5-2-3

        Not sure if Eto is nailed on with Ba & Torres lurking around

        All money is in defence which is why your mids are weak

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        1. Eze on the Eye
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I would usually totally agree. However big six defences seem solid and new BP system suits defenders. They look the more reliable for a few points. Top price Midfielders in particular seem a big risk at the moment.
          BTW would have Sturridge in if fit instead of soldado. Also can't decide on RVP or not RVP, but would compromise midfield first to get him in. Eto is a big punt that fits the budget.

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    2. dribbler
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      that should be an interesting experiment

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  16. Fin
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Anybody ever had Osgood Schlatters disease?

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes! Probably. I'm a massive hypochondriac, though...

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      1. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Wikipedia tells me it is 'knobbly knees', and I am eyeing mine with deep suspicion.

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        1. Alan The Llama
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          It actually says knobby knees, which sounds even more worrying. Oh, and you might have something wrong with your eyes.

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          1. Reedy
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            OMG...they're just what I'm looking at my knees with!

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    2. BR
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Whatever it is it sounds like something you don't want to think about at 2am

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    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Peter Osgood?

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    4. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, how old are you?

      I had it age 13-15 when I had a growth spurt. The soreness fades eventually, but the big bump will remain ๐Ÿ˜›

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      1. Fin
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        16, and it's getting really painful. I'm not able to one squat and when ever i put all my weight on my knee awkwardly during a match or twist it badly it feels like i've torn my cruciate and is unbelievably sore and I can't even walk but i'm fine in 2 hours, and I haven't heard anyone else having it that bad. It's just so restrictive and frustrating. Like i can't do a wall squat to 90 degrees or i feel like my knees are going to pop out of place and I cannot even do one squat.

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        1. Wings Fan
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Ice it regularly, 10 mins at a time, to relieve the soreness. And maybe see a physio to see if there are any mobility exercises you can do. It won't be your cruciate you can feel, it will be the patella tendon being stretched by the bump.

          I was lucky in that mine was only very painful for about 6 months, after which it became manageable and eventually disappeared. My brother, like you, had it very badly and it bothered him for about 3 years. It varies from person to person. But generally, while its very sore there isn't much option but to ice it and avoid anything that has a high impact on the knees.

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          1. Fin
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Cheers, appreciate it.

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            1. Wings Fan
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              No worries. It shouldn't be anything that harms you long term, it's pretty common at your age, especially in people who do a lot of sport.

              I have something called chronic exertional compartment syndrome in both legs at the moment. I won't go into it, but having experienced both, I can tell you its a lot more painful than Osgood Schlatters ๐Ÿ˜›

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  17. richmoore1604
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I've noticed from the RTM's that most teams are made up of a pick from a about 50 or 60 players with very little variation or risk. Come on, live a little. Your gut feelings are as good as anyones this early so who knows. Pick your team and live or die by it.

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Who's your biggest differential (lowest selected by percentage)? Best I've got is a 0.3%

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      1. Brutus619
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        0.2, Declan Rudd ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      2. Brutus619
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not joking btw. It's my Boruc + £4m combo.

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      The trouble is that pool of 50-60 players are all doing well. Is it wise to get players who aren't? I do believe there is a place for 1-2 differentials but too many is asking for trouble.

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    3. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      My "gut" picks are Moses, Fellaini and Debuchy.

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      1. richmoore1604
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Im looking at Nani, the new contract reported to be £120,000 a week shows a lot of faith. Its a lot of money to have sat on the bench. If he rediscovers form of 3 years back before all these niggling injuries he will be a steal at 7.4 mil

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  18. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I am off now.

    Rvp vs no rvp

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/063/397/owned7.gif

    Case closed.

    Night

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      ๐Ÿ™‚

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  19. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I just want o point out what a Oxford Utd are having to the season. Keep it up boys

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      And same for Cambridge ๐Ÿ˜†

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Disappointed I've only backed them in four wins. ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Well done

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  20. BR
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Contention:

    there are a limited number of 'good' players to choose from. Everyone on this site will choose from this pool of players. Then, luck comes into play (though of course, some fpl players will still be better than others) - luck is a significant factor in any given football match. Choices that were equally good at the starting point come to look good or bad in retrospect.

    Choice-supportive bias takes hold:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias

    the outcome influences how we see the decision, regardless of how good or bad the decision was with the information available at the time.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I've said this before last year, I've long suspected that this entire site is a social experiment and somewhere the designers of the experiment are laughing their heads off...

      At my paranoia, in this case.

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      1. BR
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        *experiences moment of clarity*

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  21. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I see Thomas has completely fallen off the radar. He had the biggest budget mid bandwagon at the start of the season till he got injured. Will he be on peoples radar once again when he returns from injury? for 4.4m he's got to be surely.

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    1. BR
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Palace have brought quite a few new attacking players in though, haven't they?

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah I have no idea how they all fit in.

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    2. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Kim/Whittingham are far better value imo.

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    3. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I said all along he wouldn't get in the starting XI, and I stand by that.

      Wouldn't pick him ahead of any of Kebe, Puncheon, Grandin or Williams on the wing.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Is he only a winger? if he is just a winger then I agree he will likely see rotation.

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    4. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Here we go again, round two ๐Ÿ˜‰ When he and Quinn were both 4.5m I was constantly telling people to get the Hull man. Still Thomas was a RMT everpresent. Now they are both 4.4m and coming back into contention...

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I was not keen on Thomas at all pre-season nor was I with any budget mids. However I am curious as to the prospects of Thomas when he returns from injury.

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        1. Reedy
          • 15 Years
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          I don't know...Palace midfield looks a bit overrun - they had to trim down their squad after the transfer window influx. Admittedly, the Hull midfield is now a different prospect too...it's possible neither will start.

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  22. Brutus619
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    Just in case some of you DZ lot aren't on here much during the day (closet vampires) and need something long and boring to help you sleep ๐Ÿ˜‰ ........

    Having done a total of 8 Youtube player analyses I thought I would take a look back at some of the more relevant ones to see how the player I have analysed are progressing. I'm excluding Carrick (not relevant to FPL), Van Ginkel (lack of game time), Lamela (not enough game time, new signing, only done last night).

    7 of of my analyses can be found here: http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/08/15/the-scoutcast-episode-109-two-men/?hc_page=41#hc_comment_5260708. My analyses of Erik Lamela can be found under the scout report on this site posted yesterday, it is a stickied comment.

    1. WILFRED BONY

    Pre-season Comments:

    From these clips you can see that Bony knows how to use his head and his fantastic link up play could help him form a lethal partnership with Michu. However, if you read between the lines you will share in my disappointment from seeing that this player who scored 40 goals in his last 2 seasons combined seemed to show very little in terms of taking long range strikes. In fact, many of the clips I did not show involved him using pace before slotting away a finish which was more towards the centre of the goal than either post. Thus I would expect GKs in the prem to save a lot more of his attempts. As long as the likes of Hernandez, Dyer & Routledge supply him with crosses, Bony could be a star. However he may struggle if the ball is constantly played into his feet and a comfortable partnership with Michu does not form in a consistent manner. Much like Demba Ba's decrease in threat once transferred to Chelsea.

    Now:
    http://youtu.be/gQNbwLFbndI?t=3m19s

    His goal against United found in the above link shows that Bony is certainly capable of hitting the ball into the corners of the goal. A problem for him however is Laudrup's tendency to rest him after playing him in the Europa league, a worrying development for the striker.

    1 goal in 143 minutes is not bad, especially considering the goal came against the current champions. However, in his most recent match Bony's average position was near the half way line, whilst Michu & Hernandez's average positions were slightly ahead of him, perhaps this is an indication that Bony is struggling to receive the ball in threatening positions and drops deep in order to receive it. Indeed, on average across the three games, Michu surprisingly has more touches and passes received in the opponent's half and final third by a significant margin (almost double in some statistical comparisons).

    Furthermore, an attempt on goal on average per 28.6 mins is a slight cause for concern considering that he is beaten by other mid priced options such as Lambert (23.7), Dzeko (20.7) & Giroud (20.3). Also, having complimented him on his strength in dispatching shots with his head, Bony has only averaged 0.7 attempts in this manner which is beaten by the likes of Wolfswinkel (1), Dzeko (1.7), Giroud (2.3). This means that he is not being able to use one of the biggest strengths to his game which assisted him in his successful exploits with Vitesse Arnhem last season.

    For now he does not seem a good option at £8m as alternatives like Lambert and Giroud have been showing more encouraging statistics and form respectively.

    2. JOZY ALTIDORE

    Pre-season comments:

    Really wasn't expecting this, but after watching these clips I'm so very excited to see Altidore in the PL and am considering him as a differential striker for my team. He's a striker with a strong heading ability as I've seen from multiple clips (in a similiar fashion to Bony), he also has brilliant link up play ability (also similiar to Bony), however, what separates him from the fellow newcomer is the fact that he really knows how to use his feet to throw defenders off him.

    Add a good level of strength, complete composure when under pressure and a fantastic finishing ability to the mix, and you have a very exciting prospect in your hands. Altidore can score in a variety of ways and in my opinion is head and shoulders above Aspas in terms of goal threat (both come in at a tempting £7m).

    Almost all the goals I've seen show him shooting into the corners and so he is a very lethal finisher, in fact my doubts about the weakness of his league have subsided as the quality of his finishing and skill has been at such a level that I feel these goals would easily translate to the PL against better defenders. He really does seem to be an all round striker who is developing at a fast pace with consummate ease. I feel this season will see Altidore shine in the same way Benteke and Lukaku have previously (both these strikers also came to the PL from "weaker" leagues), although Sunderland really will need to step up to provide him the chances to thrive as he is a player who relies on his team to provide him with opportunities to score (similiar to both Bony & Soldado).

    Now:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVRyc3H2MG0

    A disappointing punt during his "easier" fixtures - although out injured against Palace, Altidore has of course failed to score or even assist in either of his games thus far even though he has been afforded over 180 mins for the club. Of course this is based on a small sample size of just two games but the statistics should hopefully allow us to understand his adaptation to the PL a bit more.

    Only just below Lambert in passes recieved and touches in the opponent's half and the final third, it is clear that Altidore is still being involved in the offensive flow of his team even if he is not finding an end product. His attempts in total and inside the box are almost half those of Lambert - a worrying statistic considering that he has been playing as the focus of his team's attacks. Another disappointing factor is that Altidore has had 0 headed attempts on goal, he like Bony seemed to have a great strength in producing quality headers and has also not been able to use this to his advantage.

    Of course, with the absence of Fletcher, Altidore may not have been able to use his great knack of interplay to get into goal scoring positions. I feel as if in general Sunderland have failed to supply Altidore with the ammunition he needs - as Swansea have to a certain extent with Bony - and so he is definitely one to drop from your team until Sunderland as a whole pick up in their offensive exploits. The link above shows that Altidore is still obviously a composed and good finisher and so it will be interesting if he can use a partnership with Fletcher to pick up his form via his use of interlinking play.

    3. IAGO ASPAS

    Pre-season comments:

    So what do we learn from Aspas' most recent season highlights (previous season clips were hard to find)? Firstly, he is definitely not an out and out striker in the same way Soldado and Bent are, he is very much a man who likes to drift onto either wing just outside the box. There are a few problem which were highlighted when viewing his goals, one of which is the fact that Aspas has an almost unerring manner of shooting straight into the middle of the goal. I really am disappointed in the lack of clear variation in his shooting direction and for 2 of his goals I could clearly see the keeper cursing himself as Aspas shot toward the keeper himself and was lucky enough to be rewarded for his effort. With the likes of Begovic, Mignolet, Krul, Vorm, & Foster in the league (not to mention the top 5 team keepers), I do believe Aspas is going to find his first season in the PL a frustrating one unless he changes this.

    Another very worrying issue is that all the skills showed by him on pitch could be classified under close control, he doesn't seem to be the type of player who has a variation of skill in his locker when taking on a defender. On a scale between McClean/Valencia to Adam Johnson/Nani in terms of skill when approaching a defender, I would put Aspas close to the middle but just about on the side favouring the first two players. It seems he is very much an attacker he just runs to get away from the defender and pushed the ball away from them if they lunge at him, this means he would find it extremely difficult if ever doubled up on or facing a truly organised defence.

    The fact 3 of his goals came from penalties, 1 from the goalkeeper's hand not being strong enough and another from a deflection hardly inspire confidence. Taking those away reduce his season tally to just 7 goals, and even 1 of those was a simply shot down the middle with a goalkeeper cursing his weak ability to handle a one on one situation.

    I would steer clear of Aspas unless he began to show why he managed 23 goals in one of his previous La Liga seasons, considering he has lost penalties to Gerrard and will be on the wing as opposed to the central area, he is at a clear disadvantage to the likes of Berbatov or Lambert when weighing up your options.

    Now:
    Classified as a striker in FPL but played on the right wing for Liverpool, Aspas has had just 1 assist in 200 minutes. Surprisingly his average position across the 3 games is actually central rather than out wide but his involvement in play on average is worse than both Sturridge & Coutinho. Furthermore, although Coutinho has been lambasted for his lack of attacking threat, the Brazilian averages 3 goal attempts to Aspas' 0.7 (a hefty margin) and averages the SAME number of attempts in the box as Aspas, a player who is seen as more attacking in his goal threat.

    However, when it comes to assist potential Aspas surprises us by creating more chances on average than Coutinho (28.7 mins per chance created to 43.7). This is still offset by the fact that Aspas has a disastrous rate of 100.5 mins per goal attempt compared to Sturridge's 28.5 mins.

    Overall, Aspas is definitely one to avoid as other mid priced strikers such as Lambert and even Van Wolfswinkel (71.5) have less mins per attempt. As for being Liverpool coverage, with BAPS almost ignoring assists and strikers needing goals to justify their places in your FPL teams: Sturridge, Suarez & Coutinho are almost certainly the main protagonists in consideration for Liverpool coverage due to their significantly greater goal threat whilst Aspas takes a back seat as a very risky differential pick for the foreseeable future.

    4. WAYNE ROONEY

    Pre-season comments:

    So what can we glean from this visual presentation of Rooney’s season? Well what seems obvious is that Rooney is still very capable of getting the goals to match and beat other great – but lesser – goal scoring talents such as Defoe and Ba. But as well as having a reasonably strong season as a striker, Rooney has thrived in United’s attack from a more withdrawn position too. He has been integral to their build up play in the final third and is very often involved in the final few touches of the ball before a goal – much like David Silva in his breakthrough season at City. He thus is very much a world class CF who can take on a goal scoring responsibility whilst helping his team in their attacking endeavours even when behind the ball itself.

    Furthermore, Rooney has shown flashes of brilliance in his link up play with RVP and there is the hope that his second season could see him thrive as the supply man to the lethal Dutchman whilst being a goal scoring talent in his own right. It should also be noted that RVP also had numerous instances in the season where he scored a goal Rooney could have scored if the ball dropped to him at the exact time it came to RVP or another player in the box, I was only able to find a few examples of this as it would be too arduous a task to sift through every other United player’s highlights.

    Having already compared him to Silva, I do not think it would be completely unreasonable to compare him to Valencia or Navas in his crossing ability and he should be able to provide ammunition for goals both from set pieces and from drifting runs out wide. It should be noted that he should benefit from Vidic’s return to fitness as the Serbian has a tendency to capitalise from set piece goal scoring opportunities.

    Without going on too much of a tangent I do personally believe that Moyes made a bit of a mess which was publicly misconstrued as him downplaying Rooney’s importance to the team. I feel as though Moyes, as any manager worth his salt would, recognised that RVP was United’s main outlet for goals whilst Rooney was the overall engine of the United attack who also could score goals and has the possibility to take on a greater goal scoring responsibility should RVP get injured.

    Finally, I feel he was on the cusp of challenging RVP last season. Even matched him in fpl points output when they played together. This season he may completely outshine RVP on value plus captaincy option combined due to that massive difference in price. captaining Rooney or Sturridge is a much more potent choice than RVP and Anelka! BAPS should also be taken into consideration, as I understand it, there is less emphasis on goal scoring and much more on overall team involvement. I feel Rooney would shine here as he is a strong passer (pass completion "PPI") and also is very involved defensively.

    Now:
    Do I still think Rooney will be the main engine of our attacks when fit? Yes. As a United fan do I still think Rooney has an important role to play in our attack during the season? Of course.

    In just 118 mins Rooney has gathered 2 assists compared to RVP's 2 goals in 266 mins and his average positioning across his appearances is just slightly behind the Dutchman. Of course with the addition of a certain Afro bearing CM, Rooney will no longer have to fill in from a deep position and should no be given the freedom to attack at will.

    Overall Rooney's involvement in United's play surpasses the Dutchman via touches and passes received. But he importantly competes with RVP on minutes per goal attempt average when taking price into consideration (31.8 to 21.2); whilst being behind in this regard he blows RVP out the water in terms of assist potential with 42.3 mins per chance created on average compared to the Dutchman's statistic of a whopping 276 mins per chance created. Rooney's creativity is understandably behind the likes of Silva and Cazorla (30.4 & 26.9 mins per chance created respectively) but is ahead of Hazard (47.3 mins per chance made) and only just slightly behind Coutinho (43.7 mins per chance made).

    Of course, although Rooney looks like he could be an assist machine I seem to be wrong about the BAPS and Rooney will need to rely on his goal threat in order to rack up the bonus points. Having said that his shot accuracy thus far is an impressive 75% compared to RVP's 23% and so it seems he still has an eye for goal to work in cohesion with his playmaking strengths. I still believe that if fit throughout most the season (around 32 starts) Rooney could reach double figures both in goals and assists or at the very least beat the 20 goal + assists mark.

    5. Roberto Soldado

    Pre-season comments:

    Well, after finishing this analysis I simply cannot contain my excitement. Watching these clips I was trying to come with a label for Soldado but I feel it would be a disservice to just give him one. Out of the numerous clips I did not include he showed excellent timing in his runs to score without pressure from the defence, really similiar in the way Chicarito capatilises on his own movement to score. However, Soldado also has great pace and uses it to great effect to leave defenders, combined with his excellent timing he goes above and beyond a player like Benteke as he really understands how to stay just onside before applying the finishing touch to a goal. Numerous clips I have seen showed him grabbing a goal where the defenders near him were behind him but he spotted an opposition full back out of place and allowing him to remain onside. The clips I have included show you he truly is a lethal finisher in addition to being an excellent poacher. A combination of RVP+Chicarito+Bent as a description of the type of player he is would be appropriate here (fantastic volleys and shots from angles + fantastic runs into the box to leave the defender clueless as he scores from close range + great positioning to score a tap in). Finally, it must be noted that Soldado is NOT a dribbling striker. He is not similiar to Aguero or Suarez in the way that they create their own chances and so he is very much just a lethal finisher who can occasionally set himself up for a great shot (not a bad thing at all!). In a team like Spurs he should thrive of the supply given to him and I feel he will be a significant upgrade to Defoe. In terms of value I see him rivaling Aguero in his breakthrough season by scoring at least a return of 16 goals when being modest (with a lower price tag expected - around the £9m mark).

    Now:

    Is there much to say? It's been established now that Soldado is like Bony in the sense that they definitely need chances created for them and the likes of Townsend and Chadli have failed to do that for him as they are more preoccupied with taking shots themselves. However, based on my analysis of Lamela last night and my upcoming analysis of Eriksen I very much hope his fortunes will improve as the new duo are play making talents (Lamela seems to be a pretty unselfish talent and has bags of skills to provide great chances rather than just relying on pace to produce hopeful crosses like Lennon). Already established as a penalty taker I think we should give Soldado another 3 weeks to prove himself whilst Lamela and Eriksen settle into the team and provide him with a good supply of ammunition, I've no doubt the Spaniard striker will rise to the occasion!

    Apologies if some of you are seeing this for the second time, just trying to spread it round to people who may miss it due to being offline when I did post it before.

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    1. Desertbug
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      ummm, get back to you in about 45 minutes.

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      1. Desertbug
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        and btw, the DZ, like rust, never sleeps.

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      2. Brutus619
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        ๐Ÿ˜€ Cheers hehe.

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    2. Ryan
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      This is a repost am I right?

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      1. Brutus619
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        LOL maybe my disclaimer should have started the post (it's the last line).

        Yeah it is.

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    3. Twelve years a slave
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      Read it all , think you have it about right

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      1. Brutus619
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        Thanks. Really wish Sunderland would pick up the pace offensively so I can get Altidore back as a differential king :/

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    4. Billy Ketsu
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      So, in short:

      Bony: No
      Altidore: No
      Aspas: No
      Rooney: Maybe, if fit
      Bob Salado: Yes, possibly

      Good work, Brutus. Upvoted.

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      1. Brutus619
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        Cheers mate.

        With Rooney imo it's a definite yes when he's fit again.

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  23. Reedy
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    Brutus, I've started a new post so as not to besmirch yours with all the effort that has clearly gone into it...but Christ man! Some of us are drinking, you know ๐Ÿ˜†

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    1. Reedy
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      Upvoted nevertheless ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    2. Brutus619
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      This is good drinking material ๐Ÿ˜‰ You'll be reaching for a bottle of vodka after you're done with this!

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      1. Reedy
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        Haha. Were I not a bottle down already I might, but I will bookmark for another day ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        1. Reedy
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          Bottle of wine that is NOT vodka, thankfully haha

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        2. Brutus619
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          Cheers Reedy ๐Ÿ˜€ Be sure to let me know what you think however late you read it! (Email notifications for comments are turned on).

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  24. isacki: full casual
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    A potentially new way of picking teams. Your objective is simply to pick the team that scores the most goals each week, counting a CS as a goal.

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    1. BR
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      Are you implying that assists are now of little value and cs = goal are essential?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        Bap wise assists aren't great. FPL wise they are.

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    2. Cheeseoid
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      Is that really different?

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    3. BR
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      And Isn't this what people who are switching to 433 with centre backs doing?

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Yes to both

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Just making it explicit.

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    4. TorresMagic™
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      Good method. Mids are mainly failing though.

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      Totally crude attempt at satisfying this with a RMT when going off last season's top scorers: http://www.free-elements.com/England/S2012.html

      Migs (4.0)
      Nastasic Mertesacker Ferdinand Coleman (Moxey)
      Walcott Michu Nolan (Ward-Prowse Quinn)
      RVP Benteke Lukaku

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  25. Cheeseoid
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    Hmm what would be the best film to watch just now?

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    1. Reedy
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      You missed our movie discussion Cheesoid! Go back about 3-4 pages and you may find inspiration ๐Ÿ™‚

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      1. Cheeseoid
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        Can't believe I missed all that. The result was wrong too.

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        1. Reedy
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          I came late to the party myself and didn't get to vote. We should demand a recount sometime ๐Ÿ™‚

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    2. BR
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      Wings of Desire

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  26. bdwhite91
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    Rate my UCL team please

    Artur Helton
    Maxwell Bonucci Alaba Fuchs Hubocan (Zenit)
    Ribery(c), Payet (Marseille), Isco, Lucho, Oscar
    Giroud Callejon Messi

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  27. Jimbo123
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    Anyone know what's up with Lallanas game time? Is Ward-Prowse more nailed on at the mo?

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  28. BR
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    Is Club Mate available in the UK?

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      Sounds like a football dating service ๐Ÿ˜† Not heard of it here

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      1. BR
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        It's a cold drink made in Germany. I supposed you could call it 'ice mate tea'. It's excellent for helping you concentrate (i.e. better than coffee if you need to do a lot of brain work).

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Now you say that I think I did see it when I was on the Schuleraustausch...

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  29. Twelve years a slave
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    Let me bore you all with a RMT

    Mingolet 4.0

    Evra Walker Coleman Collins Chester

    Walcott Ben Arfa Hernandez Brady Wittingham

    RVP Soldado Giroud

    Fairly template , obviously it all about RVP capaincy , most of the others are risers , so unlikely to have to worry about price drops for a while. If Van Persie fails against Palace will transfer him out for another premium striker with a good fixture , make some money , then buy RVP back after the city game at a cheaper price, as team value rises willgradually be able to afford better mids

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    1. Wings Fan
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      Like it apart from Hernandez. Sceptical about gametime when Swansea have the Europa League to consider, and a lot of attacking midfielders/wingers to choose from.

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    2. Reedy
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      Not a bad idea. Think I'm more likely to be patient with him, since any drops will likely be recompensed in future...and because temporarily taking him out may backfire if I'm suddenly hit with injuries elsewhere. I should point out I'm in the process of squandering my wildcard though, hence the cautious approach ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        an alternative i have is to change walker to mert,downgrade wittingham to prowse xhange cillins to a 4.o freeing up a1.5m , then could pick a more expensive mid than Hernandez, but there are not many candidates in the 7.5 range

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        1. Reedy
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          That would be decent if you were happy to wait for Mirallas to start firing. Like you say though, not much else around that price. Shave 0.5m off your team elsewhere and Lamps could be the answer though.

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      Hull scored 3 vs City.

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    4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      With that back 5, you will want to play Evra, Walker and Coleman in all games so you will never get to play Chester & Collins...much prefer only having 2 defenders to play every game and use the extra cash to beef up the midfield so you can get Lampard for example.

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      1. Ryan
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        433 ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    5. Ryan
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      I like it a lot actually. If RVP did awesome against Palace and City though what would be your plan to bring him in?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        He has RVP

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        1. Ryan
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          Doh, somehow missed that. Superb team.

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    6. LowerManhattan
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      Mine is similar, but I put more of the new guys in to give some differential

      Migs - (Daniels)

      Sakho - Zaba - Ivanovic - Agger - (Baker 3.9)

      Ozil - Lamela - Eriksen - (Barkley) (Delph)

      Negredo - Giroud - Benteke

      I highly recommend using Baker to get the extra .1 - It's like a built in price rise and he might even play when he comes back from injury.

      Liverpool's fixtures look great and their defending is looking great, so why not go all in? Taking the three defenders, leaves Studge out as an option, so went Negredo there. Been getting more minutes each week, so I figure he might be at 60+ by next gameweek.

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    7. RVN10
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      Great team. Brady to a 4.5(Prowse) and invest it on Hernandez. I have the same team with a different mid. Walcott,Nolan,Ben Arfa, one of em will come Lamela once he settles in.

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  30. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Pad thai for dinner, yummy

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      Mmm!

      Really hungry now despite it being bedtime, gonna make something now...

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        What are the options?

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Uhmmm, pasta with pesto, salad with caesar dressing, breakfast cereal

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    2. Cheeseoid
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      My wife made an awful Pad thai the other day. I hope yours is better

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