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Tottenham and Arsenal justify their lofty league positions by supplying us with some eye-catching statistics over the weekend. Michu’s goal threat against Palace, Southampton’s defensive solidity and Chelsea’s attacking midfield trio also come under our analytical eye in this week’s regular sift through the data for members.

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  1. FollowFollow
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Whats the latest on BENTEKE?

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    1. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm out for the City game.

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      1. Eboue
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        😀

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    2. Yome
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      His price will fall tonight

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      1. FollowFollow
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        SO INJURED FOR A WHILE?

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yellow turns to orange and chaos/panic selling has ensued ........... no doubt hell pop up with a brace

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  2. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I know they have a new manager but i see a pattern from last season with Kun

    He got rested before cl games last seaosn and he was rested before ther first 1 this time.

    Once CL group stage is over Kun is a great pick , as he wilbe nailed on until the knockout stage kicks in if they get there.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      if he was a mill cheaper hed be a no brainer

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        agree

        I wont consider him till group stage is over.

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    2. AugustaBlue
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Traded him to Rooney on Friday. Shot myself in the foot yesterday.

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  3. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Anybody worried about the lack of options in midfield still?

    Walcott could be out for 6 weeks, who would we get?

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      6 weeks

      source

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        People here earlier talking about an abdominal tear and how it can take 3-6 weeks to heal etc. but pay no heed, wait to hear what they find.

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    2. Raddy
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      6 weeks!? where did this come from?

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    3. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ouch, have not seen this on Walcott?! Only a rumor at this stage, I presume.

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    4. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I heard he died.

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      1. There's Always One!
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        So does that mean he won't play this weekend?

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    5. Del Monte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      We just need to wait but seems the Arsenal medical staff are unsure of what is the problem.

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  4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    So...anyone on here actually doing well this year? 😀

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      only the ones who post '70 hows everyone else doing' or '87 score check' etc with unswerving regularity............the rest of us...meh

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I do a score check despite my hideous rank. Every week.

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          trust me your hideous rank is dreamland to me 😉

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        2. Eboue
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I score checked with 9 on Saturday 😎

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    2. King Kohli
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Was doing well till this week happened!
      Down from 3.8k to 153k

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        i can barely see you from 1.5m 🙁

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    3. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Emmmm I'm okayish for now. Given that I've only owned any expensive defenders for 2 weeks...

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    4. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      nope

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    5. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm doing really well, broke loads of personal records. Worst GW rank, worst GW score, worst overall rank... oh wait

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    6. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I haven't seen yet one person on here who's done well, usually there a number of people with good starts, interesting to see if some / most of the traditionally good FPL managers will end up on top at the end of the season 🙂

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    7. AugustaBlue
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Winning a league of 25 and have done horribly. Soooooo... yes?

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    8. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Was, until last week..

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  5. Ray In Bruges.
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    If Walcott is out, how good a punt do you think Serge Gnabry might be? =P

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    1. Ray In Bruges.
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Guess not a very good one 😆 .

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Just had to Google him. 😀

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  6. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Even if Benteke is fit... the one person capable of taming the beast is Kompany. I'm getting rid tonight.

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Check to see if his drop tonight affects your sale price.

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      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        It does, I bought him for 9.1 🙁

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      That's a discredit to Kolo 😉

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  7. King Kohli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Currently on a wc

    Have a defence of
    Baines Dawson Clyne x x

    Fill those two positions
    A) Vidic + B.Turner
    B) Ferdinand + Wilson

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    1. Milan 0
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B for me

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  8. Treebeard87
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hi, so I have a couple of questions...

    Firstly, what are people talking about when they say "He is at %100 so his price will drop tonight"? What is that all about? Where is this information? Am I missing something obvious?

    Secondly, I am considering selling Benteke and bring in Suarez. Has anyone got reliable information on whether he is going to be slotting strait into the Liverpool starting lineup? If so, and with Liverpool's kind upcoming fixture list, I was going to downgrade Ben Arfa and take a -4pt hit, and bring Suarez in strait away. Good move? Thoughts on value midfielders? I was thinking Aunautovic...

    Thanks in advance.

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    2. Milan 0
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      TOTAL PFL website for price rises etc.

      Suarez should start midweek (carling cup) and then against Sunderland at the weekend.

      Both seem good moves to me depending on the rest of your team ofc

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      1. Treebeard87
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        The rest of my team is:

        Mignolet,

        Walker, Zabaleta, Distin, Ivanovic, (Wilson),

        Ben Arfa, Michu, Ozil, Eriksen, (Barkley),

        Benteke, Giroud, (Graham)

        I liked the look of Aunautovic against Arsenal. He looked confident and classy. Good fixtures for Stoke to come too. I have never take a hit before, kind of against what I want to do, but if Suarez is playing, Benteke is out, then it has to be worth a go. Cheers.

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  9. seanie3
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    2 FT's this week and doing lampard and hba to Oscar and Ramsey

    Is it a premature to do Walcott to Michu for a hit

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  10. There's Always One!
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    I can sell benteke for 9.1m. If his price drops tonight will his selling price be 9m or will it stay at 9.1m?

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Stay @ 9.1

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      1. There's Always One!
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Are you sure I won't lose my profit? I thought if his price has to rise 0.3m to make a profit of 0.1m once it drops below the 0.3m again I lose the profit?

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        1. Kalix
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          regardless of what price you bought him, if he's selling at 9.1 for you now, then you can afford one 0.1 price drop with no loss.

          Every 0.2 = 0.1 profit. not every 0.3 🙂

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          1. There's Always One!
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Did it used to be 0.3m?

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Depends

      If you got him at 9.0, then 9.0
      If 9.1, then 9.1.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Ignore me. 9.1
        I thought he was currently 9.2

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    3. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Im confused, how can his selling price be 9.1? What did you buy him for? He's at 9.3 now so if you bought him at 9.1..he should be selling at 9.2. If you bought him at 9.2...he should be selling at 9.2. If you bought him at 9.0..he should be selling at 9.2.

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      1. There's Always One!
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I got him at 9m and I can sell for 9.1m. For every 0.3m of a rise you make 0.1m

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        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Oh of course yeah. Got confused because I bought him at 9.1 and can sell at 9.2. Made me assume someone who bought him at 9.0 would sell him for 9.2 also

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      2. Kalix
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        If he bought him at 9.0
        Then 9.3 means his sell price is 9.1 (not 9.2).

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  11. Yome
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Tempted to put the armband on Suarez against Sunderland

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      so am i

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Massive differential for this week, it is between him and RVP

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        1. Scottys Army
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          i have it on rvp

          suarez vice

          but im undecided

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          1. Yome
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Same as me but I need to catch up in the leagues so I need a differential captain, Suarez is the man!

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            1. Scottys Army
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              yeh I have dropped abit behind in mine

              lets do this

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    2. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Suarez (c)

      Im all over that

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        If Suarez has a killer in midweek, I will def. give him the armband

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      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Et moi !

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    3. Geriatric Unathletic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Def will be. Sunderland without a Manager and seem to love shipping 3 a week. Oh yes, and my worst week ever, dropped further than beechy head and now ive taken an point hit. Desperate times my friends.

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      1. Geriatric Unathletic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        8 point 🙁

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        1. Yome
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I took 8 pointer last GW and another one this GW, all to get Suarez in!

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      2. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Yes dude exactly, I am on the same boat! Suarez C could really help us climb up the ladder!

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    4. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      if you have him, of course he is (C)

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      1. Yome
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I think it makes sense for sure

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      2. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Not if he's playing n the hole...

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        1. Scottys Army
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          free role so he will be everyhere

          and not playing main striker didnt hamper ronaldo or bale in fpl.

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    5. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I will be

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  12. Vpan
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    probably my WC team not depending on this but I have to ask:

    Collins or Wilson long term?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      collins long term

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  13. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Guess who biatches....

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  14. Tony Hibbert's Shootin…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Would any Chelsea fans be able to clue me in regarding Hazard's recent performances? Tempted to knee-jerk him out for the weekend, but could just as easily wait it out for a few weeks with games against nor & CAR to look forward to. Thoughts people?

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    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Won't be a value in BPL this year, sorry

      Go oscar

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      1. Tony Hibbert's Shootin…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Dang. Mourinho cracking the whip and getting him to work on his defensive game?

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  15. Half Lit
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    +/- of Paulinho vs Eriksen

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    1. Geriatric Unathletic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Only judging by the t.v. highlites but Eriksen looks the business, oh and I have him already.

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    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Erikson by FAR

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    3. Tony Hibbert's Shootin…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen: More advanced as an attacking mid, more likely to pick up assists, much more likely to be taking corners/set-pieces

      Paulinho: plays deeper in a more box-to-box role, likes to make late runs into the box a'la Lampard for goal scoring opportunities

      I'm personally looking at Eriksen and even Lamela, rather than Paulinho, but I haven't had a good look at Spurs matches this season. Just going on the two players prior history.

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  16. Milan 0
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you drop this week,

    BAINES (NEW)
    CLYNE (CRY)
    VIDIC (WBA)
    HANGELAND (FUL)
    VERTONGHEN (CHE)

    all of them have home fixtures

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      hang

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      If Hangeland decides to play against Fulham, drop him.

      Play the other 4.

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      1. Milan 0
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        supposed to be Cardiff

        still HANGELAND to drop you think?

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    3. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Heavy investment on defence

      Wonder how the rest look

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  17. Bring on the shots
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Please let me know what you think...

    Coloccini, Walcott, RVP, Benteke

    TO

    Baines, Michu, Rooney, Suárez

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    1. Half Lit
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

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  18. Ray In Bruges.
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    @Pepin

    Looking forward to tonight's game 😉 ?

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Haha, I didn't even set my team...keep forgetting. Needless to say, you are butchering me. Drew B did put up a fight though!

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      1. Ray In Bruges.
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He did. Shame neither of your RBs played 🙁 .

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I know...and I had options to trade either / both of them multiple times over the course of the last couple of weeks...it's OK, at least I am doing well in FPL...oh wait 😀

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          1. Ray In Bruges.
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            This is all your fault. You cursed me last week but people's teams were so similar to mine that everyone flopped 😉 .

            The Bruges Bastards are my getaway from this misery 😥 .

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  19. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Suarez or Rooney?

    Don't own attacking players from either team.

    Currently on Suarez, simply because of nailed-on-ness.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Suarez easily

      Rooney gets too many injuries these days and sometimes they are not annouced pre deadline.

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  20. Giovanni Giorgio
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    --------------------Boruc------------------
    Collins--------Mertesaker--------Fonte

    Valencia---Barkley---Özil----Moses

    Lukaku(vc)---------RvP(c)------------Giroud

    Bench: Boruc, Coleman, Brady, Davies

    FT left, 1.6 in the bank.

    Thoughts?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      it's fine

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    2. Giovanni Giorgio
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Mingolet* on the bench

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    3. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Valencia

      No..just no

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      1. Giovanni Giorgio
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I know... But MUFC next 5 looks easy, and he is the most nailed on winger I guess.
        Was wondering about that yes bigandy.

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    4. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'd be playing Coleman ahead of Collins for a start.

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  21. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Where is this 'Walcott out for 6 weeks' speculation coming from?

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    1. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      The grapevine

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        the ffs knitting circle i call it 😉

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        1. Eboue
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          😀

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      People trying to be doctors.

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    3. Ray In Bruges.
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      My bad. Didn't mean it as factual, just speculation 😆 . http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/09/23/the-big-numbers-gameweek-5-2/?hc_page=2#hc_comment_5644673

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks, I hope this isn't the case.

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  22. Who Ate All Depays?
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    is Suarez a must from now onwards

    This is how my team looks

    Migs
    Zaba, Shaw, Coleman
    Ozil, Eriksen, Ben arfa, Brady
    Rooney, Giroud, Benteke
    (Given, Collins, Ward, Parker)

    no FT & 3m in bank

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  23. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    What front 8 would you have on WC? I'm on,

    Ramsey Ozil Brady Michu Whittingham

    Giroud rooney suarez

    Too much arsenal I feel. But all 3 have excellent form and excellent fixtures...

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      looks good

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      ramsey>arnautovic?

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    3. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      If Ramsey was Oscar, that would be my perfect affordable 8 I reckon.

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        If I told you I was playing this solely for October fixtures would that change your mind?

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    4. Whiskerz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Michu / Eriksen (or Lamela) / Ozil / Arnautovic / R.Morrison
      Giroud / Suarez / Shrek or Aguero or maybe even Lukaku if you're feeling lucky.

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  24. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Benteke out or no for next week?

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    1. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'm not going to repeat myself again, I am out of the City game.

      Sell me.

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      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Have you sold yourself yet?

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      2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        I'll never sell you!

        ...Not until GW7

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    2. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I don't think even Paul Lambert knows yet - waiting on tests

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  25. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    ROOOOOONEY

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  26. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Grav check.......it out 😎

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Too many Heisenberg gravs / names for my liking!

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Ah really? Okay changing back....

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      2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        this. breaking bad is good. get over it. not as good as the wire!

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          All playing second fiddle to Avatar The Legend of Aang 😉

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        2. The Suspended One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Wow... Total loss of all credibility

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          1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            why? prepared to concede that the breaking bad is equal to the wire. no way is it better though!

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        3. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          I've watched neither 😛

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  27. d1sable
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Aside from FPL does anyone think Moyes will play a different looking team against West Brom? I guess it depends what the 'fringe' players do in midweek but i would want to see something like this at West Brom:

    Fabio/Evans/Vidic/Evra
    Carrick/Fellani
    Nani/Rooney/Kagawa
    RVP

    if RVP not fit then Hernandez, also surely we should have Zaha and Janzui (however you spell it) on the bench pushing for starts?

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    1. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      It's just so unpredictable, I mean, what even is the best XI? I'd say something like:
      De gea
      Rafael Vidic rio/evans evra
      Carrick fellaini
      Welbeck Rooney Kagawa
      Rvp

      But then there's no real width.. Too tricky

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      1. d1sable
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        12 years, 4 months ago

        The thing is our wingers are awful and have been for ages so either replace them with Zaha and Janzui etc or he should shift to a diamond formation with Kagawa in behind Roon and RVP its not like we will miss the midfield or width because they have been awful...

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      2. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        DDG

        Rafa Vidic Rio/Evans Evra

        Carrick Fella (although still unsure of how they work together)

        Nani Kagawa Rooney

        RVP.

        I know the Kagawa/Rooney switch seems strange but it's about using players where they are best, Rooney in theory can play anywhere, Kagawa is by far at his best as an attacking mid.

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          However I might add this is just sticking to current formation. I would much prefer a system of playing Roo and RVP up top with Kags behind them.

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          1. d1sable
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            12 years, 4 months ago

            Idd

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    2. There's Always One!
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Man how I would love to be able to pick kagawa for my team

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  28. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Soldado owners...are you perservering with him through his unavoidable price drops? After Chelsea he has WHU avl HUL...

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    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldnt have him if he has pompey next week

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    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I really don't know. Such a difficult decision. A part of me says he HAS to start scoring goals, and lots of them. Another says he is a donkey and if he hasn't scored from open play already he deserves the boot. Think I'm going to ship him out for Rooney. Roon is more of a differential as well.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      sold for rooney as soon as the game was updated saturday morning

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    4. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I think it speaks volumes that Valencia replaced him with Helder Postiga....

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  29. ValterPereira
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Benteke -> Lukaku. Any thoughts?

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  30. Wingate
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Walcott Benteke and Barfa TO Ozil Rooney and Bray???

    -8........

    ?

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