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5 October 2013 4198 comments
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The Gameweek continues with four three o’clock kick-offs to follow on from City’s victory at the Etihad, before Sunderland host Man United later this evening.

Fantasy managers will be firmly focused on Liverpool’s meeting with Crystal Palace, with many backing either Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge with the armband, anticipating goals and a heavy defeat for the visitors.

We start the team news round-up at Anfield, then, to find that Brendan Rodgers makes just one change to the lineup that won at Sunderland. Raheem Sterling is drafted in on the right-flank with Jordan Henderson shifting to a central midfield role to replace the suspended Lucas. The formation is not yet clear – having played 3-4-1-2 at the Stadium of Light, that could be the case again, although Rodgers could also revert to a regular four-man defence with Victor Moses moving to the left flank and Jose Enrique returning to a full-back role.

Once again, Ian Holloway rings the changes for opponents Palace. Damien Delaney is fit to return, while Stuart O’Keefe, Jason Puncheon and Cameron Jerome all earn starts. Kagisho Dikgacoi, Barry Bannan, Danny Gabidon and Dwight Gayle make way.

Martin Jol makes a string of changes to his lineup to face Stoke at the Cottage. In come Philippe Senderos, Georgios Karagounis, Damien Duff and Bryan Ruiz as the injured Scott Parker misses out, along with Alex Kacaniklic, Kieran Richardson and Darren Bent. Mark Hughes also makes changes for the visitors as Stephen Ireland and Matt Etherington earn starts in place of Charlie Adam and Kenwyne Jones. That would indicate that Marko Arnautovic will lead the attack for the Potters.

Cardiff are unchanged for the visit of Newcastle, as Malky Mackay keeps faith with the starting XI that won three points at Fulham, leaving match winner Jordon Mutch benched. As expected, the Magpies tweak their starting lineup following Monday night’s disappointing first half at Goodison. Alan Pardew makes the decision that Hatem Ben Arfa owners were dreading: the Frenchman gets dropped to the bench as his compatriot Yohan Cabaye earns a start, along with Papiss Cisse with Vurnon Anita out of the matchday squad. Not surprisingly, Mike Williamson starts in central defence with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa dropping out.

Finally, at the KC stadium, the Tigers make just one change with Stephen Quinn benefiting from Robbie Brady’s absence following an hernia operation. Opponents Villa make two alterations – Ashley Westwood and Gabby Agbonlahor return to the lineup following injury as Yacouba Sylla and Nathan Baker drop out. That suggests a change of shape with Paul Lambert perhaps converting his 3-5-2 to a more standard 4-3-3.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to capture you real-time reactions during the afternoon’s matches and throughout United’s tea-time visit to Sunderland.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. OPTA FPL
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    HBA on for 1p yessss
    still better than 0p from Coleman on the bench LOL

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    1. A.
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      Same here

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      same here

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  2. A.
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    Balls, Sturridge off for Aspas

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  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    1 goal sturridge. Not good enough πŸ™

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    1. aehii
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      What can you do? All 3 of my strikers (i had rvp) only scored one against crystal palace at home in their turn.

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    2. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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      πŸ™„

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  4. Gr3g
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    Noooo, HBA noooo!

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    1. Gr3g
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      Feck all from my mids as usual!

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  5. FPL Daniel
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    I can't believe I owned Boruc and Mignolet whenever they concede. Ouch

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      Thinking of swapping to Cech or Ljioris

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    2. Chris_White
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      I think there are quite a few of us πŸ˜†

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    3. Fred the Red
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      I benched Boruc for Marshall. Hope Southampton concedes so I feel better.

      Actually no, I have Fonte

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    4. RabMac
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      I get it wrong every single week lol.

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  6. Your Mum's Athletic
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    QPR 2-0 dont let me down Swindon!

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    1. Nomar
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      Nice.

      On bus home from work. Who scored our 2nd?

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      1. The Joker
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        Charlie. Go Son

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        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Nice. Captained him this week too.

          Burnley 2-1 up on Reading though.

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  7. Bubz
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    Puuulease score HBA!

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  8. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    As Sweetpea said, the way the winning goal BPs are worked out

    Take the score of the losing team (1), double it (2) so whoever scored the 2nd goal gets the BPs

    Sturridge

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    1. SamH123
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      really?
      so if it's 4-2, the 4th goal is the winning goal?

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      1. Chris_White
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        Can't be. Has to be the 3rd goal in that case.

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          It could be any goal, that's why the formula sounds like bunk.

          0-1 0-2 1-2 2-2 3-2 4-2
          1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0 4-1 4-2

          The game winning goal is at different positions in these two games but at the same position according to the formula.

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
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      do you own sturridge?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        I do, but that is irrelevant, that is formula

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    3. Pratik
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      Makes no sense, but that's what it is.

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    4. beric
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      That's not the way I understood it.

      Suarez put them in the lead, Palace never equalised, thus Suarez got the winning goal.

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      1. tm245
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        Pretty sure it's this.

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      2. Qubit
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        Trouble is that its problematic and the rules arent clear. Suarez did indeed score the winning goal as things stood. However, once Palace scored Suarez's goal can not really be viewed as the 'winning' goal anymore i think. It retrospectively ruled out Suarez's goal in that respect. If Palace had scored again then Gerrard's pen would be the 'winning' goal.

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      Struggling to see how that makes sense mate.

      What about when the losing team score 2 in a 3-2 loss? Whoever scored the 4th goal gets the BPs?

      What about when the losing team score 0? Whoever scored the 0th goal...?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        Bit confusing, it's not always double, it's just add 1.

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Ah that makes a bit more sense if you add one.

          Still doesn't produce the right result though.

          So then in a 3-2 game whoever scored the 5th (2x2+1) goal gets the BPs.

          That could be the 2nd scorer for the losing team.

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    6. TorresMagic™
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      Losing team score, add 1*

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    7. Caine & Co.
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      maths fail

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  9. The3rdTurd
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    Sturridge finished on 29 passes, just one pass short of picking up 2 more bps for his passing completion.

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    1. Elniñorules
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      πŸ™

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    3. Mílanista
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      FFS

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  10. TuttiFrutti
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    who will get the winning goal in the liverpool match?

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    1. Jimmers
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      Sturridge unless Palace score again

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  11. A.
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    I guess this is the risk with Sturridge, Suarez is such a machine he can play every minute of every game he's available for and have no problems atall, whereas Sturridge is the man subbed to protect him due to his injury problems

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  12. CABAYE4
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    Why on earth would you take off our best player for a defensive liability like HBA for the last 5 when 2-1 up?

    Bizarre change from Pardew, if he wants HBA on take off Cisse or Gouffran.

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  13. Crouch Potato!
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    Lovely stuff Charlie my boy! Now get the cs club record lads! πŸ˜‰

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  14. Texas Pete
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    10 points from 5. Love it.

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    1. reply fail
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      7 from 5 here, join the club

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      1. Sweetpea
        • 13 Years
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        U gonna wc??

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  15. toxik
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    Need an Ivan goal and cs tomorrow!

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  16. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    ok 3 v palace isnt enough for me to keep SAS

    Bye studge

    hello Lukaku or giroud

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  17. Gaz Downright
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    suarez one more bitte?

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  18. Nopli -The Banned One (Solo…
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    Suarez ON 11BPS NOW
    πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

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  19. floydy_floyd
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    What if it was 3-2?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      then you change the formula, you just add 1, so whoever scored the 3rd goal.

      basically just add 1 to the losing team's score, i just said double as it was 1. Little confusing

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  20. Jake Donahue
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    Suarez on 11 BPS

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  21. heeljames
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    2nd week in a row that playing migs over mcgregor has back fired

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  22. Pratik
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    ""And Moses said unto them, 'Be not afraid: ye shall see my strike the bar, and the post, and by those signs you shall know I am Moses'" - Isacki

    πŸ˜€

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
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      Glorious!

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  23. FPL Touches
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    Another late goal will be received gratefully, Luis

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  24. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Any FUT players here?

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    1. Thomass
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      Yeah me

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    2. Dynamic
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      Yeah

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
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        Cheers lads,

        I set up a new xbox live account so I need to move my FUT items from my old account to my new one.

        How do I manage to set up the bidding so only I can see the items?

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        1. Dynamic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Just put up a rubbish player on your new account, then do a trade offer for loads of good players, then accept it.

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
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            Thanks mate

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    3. FPL Touches
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      Want some coins?

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      1. Dynamic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Yes please πŸ™‚

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        1. FPL Touches
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          Will 5k do? πŸ˜† There was a guy on here before who said he had around 300 chemistry cards, you should ask him πŸ™‚

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          1. Dynamic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            Yeah thanks πŸ™‚ What console are you on? You sure?

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      2. Count of Monte Hristo
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        Please πŸ˜‰

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    4. drunken_mess
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      FIFA is Dead to me!

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      1. The EJJ
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        FIFA 14 is awful.

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  25. .
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    Rival has Sakho 😑

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    1. mutatedllama
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      Ditto. Infuriating how lucky some people can be.

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      1. .
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        The bonus will just rub salt into the wounds too πŸ™

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  26. OPTA FPL
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    Hope both Suarez & Sturridge will get 3 bonus, problem solved πŸ˜€

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    1. beric
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      no, more for suarez, less for sturridge or i'm not happy

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  27. FORCA INTER
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    Giroud C - let's show this Liverpool strikers how too score twice πŸ˜‰

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    1. .
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      Soldado hattie tomorrow πŸ™‚

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  28. Az
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    Aguero hits the post and zab doesn't get an assist

    Wilson goes off after 58 minutes

    Faye on my bench

    12 points down the drain by such fine margins ... Such a shame!

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  29. JS27
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    Make transfers now to avoid price rises, or wait until after international break and judge then. Thoughts?

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    1. Do I Not Like Orange
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      Depending on how Rooney plays, I am looking at doing these tonight:

      Rooney > Lukaku
      HBA > Ozil

      0.2 swing either way tonight, and I can't afford them anymore. If anything goes drastically wrong over the break, I'll hit the WC button.

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  30. Super-Mac
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    Do you think Rio Ferdinand will be back a long side Vidic next game vs Southampton (Given his groin injury is healed)? Or will Jones keep the starting place?

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    1. Red Devil Swede
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      Rio shouldn't be close to first 11 in a while. Vidic+Smalling/Evans/Jones

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