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5 October 2013 4198 comments
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The Gameweek continues with four three o’clock kick-offs to follow on from City’s victory at the Etihad, before Sunderland host Man United later this evening.

Fantasy managers will be firmly focused on Liverpool’s meeting with Crystal Palace, with many backing either Luis Suarez or Daniel Sturridge with the armband, anticipating goals and a heavy defeat for the visitors.

We start the team news round-up at Anfield, then, to find that Brendan Rodgers makes just one change to the lineup that won at Sunderland. Raheem Sterling is drafted in on the right-flank with Jordan Henderson shifting to a central midfield role to replace the suspended Lucas. The formation is not yet clear – having played 3-4-1-2 at the Stadium of Light, that could be the case again, although Rodgers could also revert to a regular four-man defence with Victor Moses moving to the left flank and Jose Enrique returning to a full-back role.

Once again, Ian Holloway rings the changes for opponents Palace. Damien Delaney is fit to return, while Stuart O’Keefe, Jason Puncheon and Cameron Jerome all earn starts. Kagisho Dikgacoi, Barry Bannan, Danny Gabidon and Dwight Gayle make way.

Martin Jol makes a string of changes to his lineup to face Stoke at the Cottage. In come Philippe Senderos, Georgios Karagounis, Damien Duff and Bryan Ruiz as the injured Scott Parker misses out, along with Alex Kacaniklic, Kieran Richardson and Darren Bent. Mark Hughes also makes changes for the visitors as Stephen Ireland and Matt Etherington earn starts in place of Charlie Adam and Kenwyne Jones. That would indicate that Marko Arnautovic will lead the attack for the Potters.

Cardiff are unchanged for the visit of Newcastle, as Malky Mackay keeps faith with the starting XI that won three points at Fulham, leaving match winner Jordon Mutch benched. As expected, the Magpies tweak their starting lineup following Monday night’s disappointing first half at Goodison. Alan Pardew makes the decision that Hatem Ben Arfa owners were dreading: the Frenchman gets dropped to the bench as his compatriot Yohan Cabaye earns a start, along with Papiss Cisse with Vurnon Anita out of the matchday squad. Not surprisingly, Mike Williamson starts in central defence with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa dropping out.

Finally, at the KC stadium, the Tigers make just one change with Stephen Quinn benefiting from Robbie Brady’s absence following an hernia operation. Opponents Villa make two alterations – Ashley Westwood and Gabby Agbonlahor return to the lineup following injury as Yacouba Sylla and Nathan Baker drop out. That suggests a change of shape with Paul Lambert perhaps converting his 3-5-2 to a more standard 4-3-3.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to capture you real-time reactions during the afternoon’s matches and throughout United’s tea-time visit to Sunderland.

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  1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    12 years, 3 months ago

    why does this place turn into a den of nastiness as soon as the games begin....

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    1. Podge
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      It starts about the teams get announced 🙄

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  2. Legendary!
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    Can someone enlighten me on the Suarez BPS fiasco? When the game ended he was on 11 and due for the 3. Now he is on 7 and due for none. None of the guys on 10 changed scores. Does any one have an idea why the drastic change?
    I have read a few comments but I am none the wiser. Thanks

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    1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Then you are in same boat as us all

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          Yep.

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      • Stephen - Robot Daniels
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Same as Sturridge last week.

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      • Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        They are finalised after the games, this has been the case since the start of the season. I think Sturridge went from 3 baps to none in GW1.

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        1. Ally - Killie Til I Die
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          12 years, 3 months ago

          This was the case, yes

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        2. Legendary!
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I have noticed same but it's usually been a 1-2 point diff. I guess I am looking more closely now that he is my C 😀

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            11 to 7. 4 points is pretty off the charts.

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Its Suarez though, he's pretty off the charts for wastefulness.

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              1. isacki: full casual
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                Generally, but no shots off target, 5 offsides (-1) and 3 fouls (-1) today if I recall 3rdturd correctly.

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            2. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              In Tommy we Trust posted a graph pre season showing how many baps players would have gained/lost in 2012/13 under the new system (based on their total stats, not per GW). Suarez was one of the biggest losers.

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      • thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        I think we can't really rely on the in-game ones and have to wait until after.

        Seems harsh though. Don't know what they got so drastically wrong during the game

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    2. Large Hardon Colluder
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      So does Aguero get an assist for the missed penalty as well as being penalised?

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      1. Declan
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yup

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      2. tazri
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        yes, he gets 3 + (-2) = 1

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      3. Obi Wan Elokobi
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        I was working and haven't seen it yet but what I've heard it surely is an aguero assist

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    3. wormface
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      suarez is class ,num nuts

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    4. KakiBangku
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      May I know what happened to Kompany?

      Injury worth transferring out?

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      1. Strawberry Jelavic
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Holding hip/groin area as he plonked himself down on the pitch. Looked totally fed up. Hold and see over the next few days, intl. break anyway now and I don't think he'll plummet so fast that you're under pressure to sell. He might even be ok in 2 weeks.

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    5. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      United playing like crap. Against SUNDERLAND. lol.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        I thought you were going to bed.

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    6. tazri
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      can i just say no matter how bad your luck is, it cant be worse than this

      nastasic - no goals conceded - 57 mins
      wilson - no goals conceded - 58 mins

      instead of 2 points i could have had 12.

      BLOODY HELL

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      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        They both ended up conceding.

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Both conceded, sounds fair.

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        1. tazri
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          yes but only a few minutes off get the clean sheet points, plus nastasic didnt concede when he was on. it was before he played

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          1. Strawberry Jelavic
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah I was actually wondering would they get the cleanies, as in had they enough pitch time, rare a defender will come on that early so it was always going to be a tight one! Burn.

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    7. Gr3g
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Breaking news: SAF on the way to Stadium of Light to have HT "chat" with Moyes and his useless bunch!

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      1. Strawberry Jelavic
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        He should be on his way to have a "chat" with the new Chief Exec over the farcical transfer window they had.

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    8. BruLee
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Will Ramsey rise 3 times tonight or does he only rise once? He's on 300%.

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Once

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        1. BruLee
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          cheers

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      2. tazri
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        LOL, you must be a rookie, you can only go up once a day

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        1. BruLee
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          lol good ranks over 3 seasons. noob.

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        2. Chris_White
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah he's a real donkey for not knowing...

          Grow up

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          1. tazri
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            12 years, 3 months ago

            well..... sorry if you're on your period but he is defined as a 'rookie' so whats wrong with that?

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              12 years, 3 months ago

              Adds to list of people I'm glad I don't know.

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      3. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        .3 . It so logic. If he is on 300%

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    9. Simon March
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Looks like Faye will be my best-scoring defender for the second week running. Shame he's on my bench. I never had this problem before I WC'd and had Ubers scoring 15.5 avg per game...

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    10. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Oh my, United losing already.

      Must get rid of Vidic.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        SOU STO ful

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          They have also conceded against WBA and Sunderland, two easy games.

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            No team keeps CS in every easy game.

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            1. Captain Shirokov
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Spurs do. 😛

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              1. Mílanista
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                So far

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            2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              Sunderland doing a good job of it today

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          2. Chris_White
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Still not justifyable to get rid now

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    11. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Pass the ball to Van Persie...

      Dench!

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Sorry, living in the past

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    12. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      So all the sunderland defenders to share the bonus, right? 😀

      Sorry had to join the shadenfreude

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    13. charlie1X
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      CS difficult to find

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      1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Sunderland finding them easy enough.

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    14. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Best defenders at 4.4 or less other than Clyne and Turner?

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        none ... ttake hull

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    15. GunsnRoses
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      I am not really happy about my captain choice as of now 🙁

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    16. Your Mum's Athletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      So at what point does it go from 'transition' and 'give him time' too lets admit that we are poor and lets admit that we are

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    17. The Bandit
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Rooney and/or RVP red mist coming if it stays like this 😉

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      1. Stephen - Robot Daniels
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        RVP red card, the ref finally sees one of his nasty late tackles.

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    18. Crouch Potato!
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Di Canio has just applied for a job at McDonalds! ssn.

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    19. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      You have to give Di Canio credit.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah the players are so relieved after he was sacked that they're beating United!

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    20. Scottys Army
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      If things dont improve here really tempted to sell rooney and keep SAS , United look awful.

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    21. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      never had city and utd defender

      -proud owner of kosh 😉

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        I'm a proud owner of kush

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      2. Podge
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Anyone ask ?

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      3. Scoredelario
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You always gloat too early,. You were showing off about soldado captain before his 1 pointer 😉

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    22. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      So,
      HBA out.
      Who in?

      Hazard
      Mata
      Lampard
      Oscar
      Hernandez
      ?

      (Have Michu, Ramsey, Brady, eriksen)

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      1. The Invincibles
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Oscar

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        1. Lord Flashheart
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers

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      2. The Orienteer - find me in …
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        Mata I'd say.

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    23. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      480 mins since United scored a goal from open play in the league

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      1. Marknlard
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        That really is astounding. I need to sell RvP...

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    24. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      When will they lift stupid flags of players who played today? (Mirallas, RVP, Rooney)

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      1. r0nh
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        12 years, 3 months ago

        I know!!

        They put them on straight away & worry us!!

        But leave them there for ages 🙁

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    25. thetinkerman
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure why everyone is getting smug about United losing. It only makes me more worried about RVP and Rooney!

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Half an hour gone, its like the game's over.

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      2. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        makes it simple dont buy either.

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    26. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Okay then so who's the best defenders at 4.5 or less (other than Clyne and Tuner). Are there any viable options? Doesn't seem to be to me!

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    27. beric
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      just saw the goal, comical defending

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    28. charlie1X
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      Moyes is a living joke

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    29. Heels_Over_Head
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      12 years, 3 months ago

      my 2 week old is apparently a ManU fan, he's been having a total meltdown for 30 minutes

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