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23 December 2013 4978 comments
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An all-London affair at the Emirates brings the curtain down on Gameweek 17 this evening. Plenty of Fantasy favourites are on show as the Gunners look for the win that would extend their lead to four points over the chasing pack:

For the hosts, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil are the main protagonists for Fantasy managers, whilst Theo Walcott will be looking to maintain the form that saw him score twice at the Etihad last weekend.

Jose Mourinho’s side roll up on the back of a poor form of form on the road. The Blues have been beaten in three of their last four away games in all competitions but know that a victory will draw them level with the Gunners on 36 points. Eden Hazard will be desperate to have his say before Fantasy managers turn our attentions to the Gameweek 18 fixtures on Boxing Day.

The team news sees the hosts make four changes from the side that lost 6-3 at City last time around. Kieran Gibbs and Thomas Vermaelen are drafted in for Nacho Monreal and Laurent Koscielny at the back, with the Frenchman sidelined due to a knee wound. Mikel Arteta partners Aaron Ramsey in the double-pivot, with Mathieu Flamini dropping out, whilst Tomas Rosicky gets the nod on the left, replacing the suspended Jack Wilshere. Lukas Podolski warms the Gunners bench along with the likes of Santi Cazorla.

The Blues make three alterations from the XI that edged past Palace. Gary Cahill replaces David Luiz in defence, whilst John Obi Mikel and Frank Lampard are drafted into midfield – Michael Essien drops out through suspension while Juan Mata takes his place on the bench, allowing Ramires to move onto the right of the attacking midfield three. Oscar, Andre Schurrle and Samuel Eto’o are also amongst the subs, with Fernando Torres leading the line again.

Once again, we’ve opened the Dugout Discussion chatroom for those partial to some real-time reaction.

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  1. King H
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    overall points will be 1104 !

    not bad at chistmas time ..

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  2. Scottys Army
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Haz should be ok for boxing day after the 72 mins

    Looks like at least 1 of ozil and rambo will be rested both looked tired.

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    1. Thomass
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah I assume Özil will

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      It's good news he came off really. A near certain starter for Swansea at home 🙂

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  3. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Might get Jevans.

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, could be profitable.

      Would have been if it weren't for Buttner !!!

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      1. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah Buttnee should haven't played him onside all his fauly I understand why moyesy took him off, p.s what other transfers should I make EVS?

        Howard
        Terry, GJ Coleman
        Ramsey, Silva, Hazard Cabaye
        Suarez(C), Lukaka, Negredo
        Subs: Davis, Chico, JWP and Faye
        A) GJ to Evans/Dawson/Debuchy
        B) GJ and Ramsey to Evans/Dawson/Debuchy and Walcott
        C) Save FT and play GJ
        D) Save FT and do those transfers next GW

        Thanks guys!

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          GJ to Evans I think.

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          1. Thomass
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers mate

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  4. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ok then lads before I get some shut eye thoughts on a) or b) please...

    A) Nasri ➡ Silva

    Or

    B) Clyne ➡ Muthersucker (other defenders: Burner, Evans, Coleman, Chester)

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    1. King H
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      b

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A. Though the 4YC is a worry.

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    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A. Join me on the 4YC gamble 😀

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    4. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A, that defence looks like it will do fine.

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    5. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A/ You was always gonna do it anyway you old tart.

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Just getting a second opinion Mr Fish 🙂

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        1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Cheers Big Ears :):

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    6. Thomass
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

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    7. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks lads

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  5. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Yaya or Ozil ??

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    1. King H
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      N**** Please

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    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yaya

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    3. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yaya 🙁

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      1. Sting
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        🙁

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  6. Mojo Rojo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Szczesny
    Coleman - Luna - Terry
    Cabaye - Hazard - Ramsey - Silva
    Lukaku - Rooney - Suarez

    Davis - Ravel - Ward - Chester
    Bank = 0
    FT = 1

    A) Luna > M.Olsson
    B) Terry & Ramsey > M.Olsson & Walcott (-4)
    C) Save FT

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      c)

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    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      c

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  7. Smarty Pants
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    GW 17 Results with autosubs and VCs assuming that bonus points go to: Mertesacker(3), Vermaelen(3), Gibbs(1)

    Overall League:
    • average score will be 56

    Top 10,000:
    • average score is 78.1

    GW rank projections:
    http://fpldiscovery.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/gw17ranks3.jpg?w=118

    Detailed final results: http://wp.me/p47iV9-9y

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    1. Thomass
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks mate

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Damn, 2pts below the top 10k average 🙁 It's frickin tough up there...

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Mmmm... less than 1pt off. 🙁

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I blame Yaya.

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    3. JWF
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Looking like a tiny green arrow at best. Poop. Had high hopes for a good week.

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    4. Heydudes13
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      20 points above the average. Really can't complain.

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      1. Marlen R
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        About 20 points above the average as well - gives me the red arrow 🙁

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    5. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm gonna drop like a lead ballon !!!!

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    6. Moorinho
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You're the best at what you do, Smarty!

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    7. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Called it right...I was worried my 80 pts as of last night with only one to play, which looked a good score, would in fact prove nothing of the sort...Distinctly average...Tough game this year when 83ts is nothing to write home about.

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  8. Tribecca
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Will anyone sell Terry now?

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Season Keeper ......

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    2. Moorinho
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, after Swansea (unless he scores a goal).

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  9. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ok guys i'm done with oscar who should i replace him with
    A) Silva - flair pick, plays in advance role,differential, might be subbed earlier
    B) Yaya - causal pick, deeper role, guarenteed 90 min , on set peices

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    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      b

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      B

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  10. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Jones or Evans more secure?

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    1. Mojo Rojo
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Jones IMO... Can play in midfield and with Fellaini injured could be OOP

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      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Will probably be a Vidic/Evans CB pairing though no?

        You reckon Ferdy or Smalling will split minutes with Evans?

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        1. Mojo Rojo
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          I just think with Jones' versatility, he's more secure of minutes. Whether he's worth the extra 0.8 over Evans, that's for you to decide 😉

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          1. Coaly
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            yeah I would happily pay that if i thought he was nailed

            I can also get Distin though to double on everton and get an assured starter ...

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  11. Waldaz
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Just to confirm, the pressers are tomorrow, yeah?

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  12. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    feel stupid for taking the double-hit last week now..(damn you Hull)

    thinking I'll save my 1 FT..1.5m

    http://oi42.tinypic.com/2pt1ons.jpg

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  13. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Kos to Evans a good transfer if Kos isn't fit.

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    1. Thomass
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah getting Evans in tonight

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  14. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    So benching Terry for Gabbidon and taking a hit for Ravel to Wally and benching Redmond cost me a total of 12 points 🙁

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      my transfers and benching decisions of late have been shockin 🙁

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      1. Round and Round
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        At least u captained Suarez v Tot!

        It was u I think...

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yup.. this kinda nullified that 🙂

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If you have Terry you play every week. He's a big hitter who costs a bomb. Why didn't you ask me this??!!

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        i did!! T'was terry vs gabbidon and i posted bookies odds of Terry scoring and CS vs Gabbidon scoring(non existent) and CS and they were pretty similar.. Consensus said Gabbidon and for once i listened 🙁

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          this season i've been takin enjoyment to seriously.. had 3 attackers in todays game and i was watching it with my mates. So i thought to myself i dont wanna be supporting a defender in this game. hence why i did it tbh.. not blaming the consensus or anythin 🙁

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        2. ILOVEBAPS
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Damn. I wasn't on obviously.

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  15. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Tempted to do ozil to wally

    Cant see theo being rested v hammers

    Can always gte ozil back in jan wc

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    1. HabitualLineSteppers
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      And it frees up some much needed cash

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah indeed a nice 1.2 mil left

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    2. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Doing the same methinks.

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  16. BONKER
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Don't think I'll ever get that 100 pointer..been waiting for years...bloody 99

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  17. memo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Bps predictions for Arsnal v Chelsea game

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    1. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      mert and verm 3

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      there's no predictions. you can tell by their bps on the site.

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  18. FACUPARSE
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Time to get Podolski in the starting line up.

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    1. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      he'll play on boxing day, Giroud was terrible and needs a rest

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  19. ★FC Borecelona★
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Not enjoying this season at all 😕

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      same here.. logic and stats have gone out of the window

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  20. boyler
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    just did ozil to silva good move ?

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    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yeah

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  21. Manani
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    ozil or ramsey>walcott/silva?

    or ramsey+ozil>silva+walcott?

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  22. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    In all seriousness, is Shaw -> Baines a good move?

    Shaw is injury prone, has some dodgy fixtures before the WC, and Southampton's defensive form is below par.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Screw it, I'm doing it.

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    2. HabitualLineSteppers
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Would need to know Baines is 100% also returning from his injury

      Just my opinion but I don't see the value in Baines priced at 7.4

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    3. ILOVEBAPS
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Shaw out is a good move but I'm no Baines lover. Too much cash especially now with Coleman doing the business for far less.

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No.

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  23. DRIZ ✅
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    terry coleman merte next gw. great defence

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      they all won't keep cleanies.

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    2. white lightning
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Same here but Jags not Coleman.

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  24. Demelbrush
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    harper cech
    terry GJ coleman moxey burner
    silva hazard ramsey bacuna ravel
    Negredo suarez lukaku

    1.1, 1ft

    A. bacuna > Janujaj
    B. GJ > jag
    C. Save

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    1. Demelbrush
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I guess it depends on whether we think jan is nailed on...

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  25. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    So at least we know that all Chelsea away games will end 0-0 against the top 6 (Everton, united, and now arsenal). Goodness me

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty much, though Everton beat the narcissist with the miserable tactics.

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  26. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is doing Hazard > Walcott/Silva a sideways move or should it be considered?

    Any thoughts would be welcome

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    1. King H
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      keep hazard imo

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    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      i'm tempted next week, would probably bin ozil before haz though

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    3. Stevo_44
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wait until after next game, picture should be clearer.

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  27. King H
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Pls Rmt .. ?/10

    Howard
    Terry Coleman Mertezaker
    Yaya Hazard Ramsey Cabaye
    Suarez Rooney Lukaku

    Gazz Chester Morrison Whittikar..

    Cheers

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      9

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      1. King H
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        cheers bruv

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  28. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    He's coming to my team

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYxIntaQug

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      take him out and bring him back?

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Can't take out a player I don't have.

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    2. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      saw this yesterday, still brilliant

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  29. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Sess to Wally or Silva?

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  30. GARYNEVILLESTASH
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I had Terry & Szczesny on the bench -.-

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