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Swansea were the final club to clinch promotion to the Premier League, following their 4-2 play-off win over Reading at Wembley. It’s an extraordinary turnaround in affairs for the club; just days away from going bust back in 2002, the Swans have subsequently managed to stave off the threat of relegation to non-league football and sit amongst the likes of Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal after three promotions in the past six years.

Third-placed in last season’s Championship, their introduction to the top-flight promises to be an exciting one, given the club’s footballing ethos under manager Brendan Rodgers. Dubbed “Swanselona” by the local press, they made more successful passes than any team in England last term and with searing pace down the flanks, will trouble many a team with their approach. Only seven of the twenty teams to have been promoted via the play-offs have survived, though, an indication of how the Swans must strengthen quickly if they are to avoid the drop. The manager has acknowledged this:

Hopefully the finances will now keep the club stable and moving forward because this is about building now. We will strengthen – I spent four-and-a-half seasons at Chelsea so I know what is needed at the top level. It can be a big mistake to get into the Premier League and try to do it with the same players.

It’s a different stratosphere in regard to pace and power. I want to give the players here a chance but we’ll need to strengthen and I’ll talk to the chairman. One of the things I learned from my time at Reading is never to be sentimental.”

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total46248146942+278021
Home2315534111+305014
Away2393112831-3307

CS = Cleansheets

Swansea’s home form was fundamental to their success – results at the Liberty Stadium show just three defeats – bettered only by QPR and Forest. Crucially, however, Swansea conceded just 11 goals in front of their own fans, the best home defensive record in the division. No less that 14 clean sheets were gathered in the 23 matches at home and, incredibly, only two away sides managed to score more than once against them.

Form was not so strong on the road however – a negative goal difference tales the tale of a season which returned 11 defeats with 31 goals conceded. Clearly while Swansea’s possession football saw them dominate opponents at the Liberty Stadium, they found themselves on the backfoot too often away from home which exposed their defence to pressure and saw them ship goals. The rearguard allowed 11 home teams to score more than once against them.

The Manager

As a player, Rodgers’ career was over by the age of 20, cut short due to injury; he’d moved from Ballymena United to Reading but failed to make a single league appearance for the Royals. Having started his coaching career as manager of Reading’s youth team, the Irishman was approached by Jose Mourinho to take over the same position at Chelsea. He stayed at Stamford Bridge for a couple of years, taking control of reserve team matters before moved on to manage Watford. He lasted just over half a year at Vicarage Road, leaving to join up with Reading again in somewhat acrimonious circumstances, following the resignation of Steve Coppell.

Success at Reading never transpired and Rodgers left the club by mutual consent after just six months and prior to joining Swansea last summer, his record read: P55, W19, D13, L23; a win ratio of just 33%.

Since arriving at Swansea, however, Rodgers has hit the ground running. Taking the 4-5-1 passing system implemented by Roberto Martinez, he has tweaked the shape to 4-2-3-1 and instilled a work ethic that sees Swansea press opponents high up the pitch to win back possession. As the manager admits:

The example of the Barcelona model was a great influence and inspiration to me. When I was at the Chelsea academy, that was how my players would play, with that high, aggressive press, combined with the ability to keep the ball.

“That’s something that we’ve then been able to roll out to here and defensively we play with high pressure and high aggression. Everyone knows their function within the system. It is like an orchestra, if one of them isn’t doing it, you don’t hit the right note.

While working hard without the ball is an essential element of his team’s play, possession, to Rodgers, will be the key to Swansea’s success. The Swans boss quotes the cold, hard stats to back up his claim:

“We analyse passes that we make and that is one of our key performance indicators. Nine times out of 10, if we make a certain number of passes we will win the game. It means that we have control and our game is based around control and domination. We want to dominate with the ball. We average 526 passes per game and our average share of possession is 61 percent.”

With such attention to detail, his approach will be welcomed to the top-flight, as the Irishman finally gets his chance to step out the shadow of the Special One.

The Promoted Squad

Here’s a look at last season’s squad and statistics, play off games inclusive:

Dorus De Vries (49 starts) Brought to the club by Roberto Martinez, the former Dutch under 21 star has played every one of Swansea’s league games for the last two seasons running. Chalked up 21 clean sheets last season and seems certain to continue between the posts this term.

Ashley Williams (49 starts, 3 goals, 1 assist) A rock in the heart of Swansea’s back-four, Williams was an ever-present last season. He weighed in with the odd goal, too, on his way to being voted part of the PFA Championship team of the year for 2010/11.

Garry Monk (29 starts, 3 sub apps). Centre-half and club captain, Monk suffered a knee injury back in January which cause him to miss a substantial part of the season. Highly thought of by Rodgers so when fit, will take his place alongside Williams in the Swansea defence.

Neil Taylor (26 starts, 4 sub apps. 2 assists) A Welsh international, his season was interrupted by injuries and suspension on a regular basis. The left-back is adaptable and can also play in midfield.

Angel Rangel (30 starts, 1 sub app. 2 goals, 4 assists) Missed the start of the season with a thigh injury but when fit, the right-back plays. A solid player for Swansea, he grabs the occasional goal and will pick up a handful of assists over the course of the season.

Alan Tate (42 starts, 1 sub app. 1 assist) A former Man United trainee, Tate has been at the club since the 2002/03 season. Been used in several positions by various Swansea managers, though his best is centre-back. Rodgers played him at left-back last season but switched to the heart of defence due to injuries to others.

Scott Sinclair (42 starts, 4 sub apps. 22 goals, 3 assists) The ex-Chelsea man grabbed the headlines as his Wembley hat-trick clinched Swansea’s top-flight promotion. The club’s top scorer, he’s a guaranteed starter under Rodgers and his spot-kick duties will no doubt see Sinclair targeted by Fantasy managers on the hunt for this season’s Charlie Adam.

Darren Pratley (28 starts, 8 sub apps. 10 goals , 6 assists) Inconsistency last season saw Pratley dropped by the Swans boss but despite not being able to nail down a regular first-team slot, still managed to score double figures from midfield.

Andrea Orlandi (13 starts, 7 sub apps, 2 assists) Another player brought to the club by Martinez, Orlandi is a versatile player whose best position is central midfield. Signed a new contract last summer but missed much of the season through injury.

Nathan Dyer (48 starts, 1 sub app. 2 goals, 10 assists) A key part of Rodgers’ XI, Dyer excelled out wide for the Swans last season, picking up the Supporters’ Player of the Year award. Poor goals returns, though, and, without set-pieces, may struggle to make much Fantasy impact.

Joe Allen (33 starts, 10 sub apps. 2 goals, 4 assists) Missed the start of last season with a shoulder injury, but has established himself in central midfield for Rodgers’ side. His goal and assist returns are minimal, though; Allen is likely to be left by the Fantasy wayside this season.

Mark Gower (37 starts, 5 sub apps. 2 goals, 4 assists). Previously played as a winger, Gower was shifted into centre midfield by Rodgers last season. The move seems to have helped him nail down a starting place, and in terms of Fantasy potential, Gower takes most of his side‘s corners and a fair share of free-kicks, too.

Leon Britton (13 starts, 7 sub apps. 2 goals, 1 assist) Moved to Sheffield United in June last year but returned to Swansea in January where he has secured his place in centre midfield once again. Part of the engine room, he may be a Bonus Favourite in the same vein as Blackpool’s David Vaughan last term.

Craig Beattie (9 starts, 13 sub apps, 4 goals). The ex-Celtic forward has never really found his feet at the club and his appearances were mainly down to injuries to others. Likely to play little or no part this time round.

Stephen Dobbie (26 games, 18 sub apps. 11 goals, 10 assists) His goals and assists were crucial to Swansea last season but with Rodgers’s tactics calling for a lone striker, it’s doubtful whether he will be relied upon to lead the line. As the season progressed, Dobbie became more of an attacking midfield presence for the Swans and his versatility should see him get plenty starts, unless Rodgers looks to fresh faces at his expense.

Luke Moore (11 starts. 7 sub apps. 7 goals, 6 assists). Signed by Rodgers during the January transfer window, Moore has decent returns but has struggled to cement a place in the starting XI. May find starts hard to come by if Rodgers continues to strengthen up front.

Potential Targets

While Brendon Rodgers will undoubtedly be looking to expand his squad for the top-flight tilt, right now it seems he has his work cut out to keep his top players. Ashley Williams is reportedly a target for QPR while Newcastle are said to be set to complete a cut-price £1 million deal for Neil Taylor. Darren Pratley has also been on Bolton’s radar for several months and could yet leave the club in the summer. With Chelsea loanee Fabio Borini agreeing a deal to Parma, the post season has not started well for the Swans; Borini’s presence gave Swansea an extra dimension and a replacement will be fundamental.

Rodgers will get busy however and has already targeted the highly rated Watford striker Danny Graham as a first signing. The club’s official site has confirmed that a £3.5 million bid has been accepted by the Hornets with the 24-goal forward set to fill Borini’s boots in the Swansea attack.

Reading’s towering centre-back Matt Mills is another rumoured target with a potential fee of £3 million been circulated. Chelsea’s Jefferey Bruma is also a name doing the rounds. Right now then, it appears that Rodgers is content to close in on potential talent rather than look to acquire experienced Premier League heads. With an expected transfer kitty of around £10 million, Rodgers will need to spend wisely to strengthen key areas for what will surely be a testing campaign.

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  1. Scroobius Mac
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    Two midfielders on the U21 game for 12 million?
    Already maxed out on Danes and Czechs though.

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    1. Boom!!!
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      rekish/nekhaychik(wait for the team news before the deadline) and mehmedi/shaqiri

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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
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        Bjarnason

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        1. Demí
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          You think he'll do well?

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          1. King Nil Miss ✩
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            I think all teams will have a shout at goal..who will come good is another question..I guess we´ll have to wait for the 1st matches to really begin to play U21FF!
            For now I think he´s a reasonble choice for an iceland mid at 5M.

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            1. King Nil Miss ✩
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              ...and 3 goals in the bag..

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              1. Demí
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                Great, he's in my team then 🙂

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    2. Demí
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      Sigurdsson of Iceland 8m & Kasami of Switzerland 4m

      Both attacking, and likely to start, especially the former.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        Already have Kasami, the other guy from Belarus for 4 mil probably isn't worth it?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          u have sigurdsson?

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          1. Scroobius Mac
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            No but I mean I had Sigurdsson and the other 4 million midfielder for 12 million but figured two players around 6 would be better idea.

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        2. King Nil Miss ✩
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          Savostyanov isn´t worth at all because he´s named midfielder but is a defender.

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  2. Marknlard
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    This Swansealona business...the one time Swansea came up against a very good midfieder (Aaron Ramsey) last season, they lost 1-0 at home and put in a pretty disappointing performance. Just saying, like.

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  3. tosey
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    so giggsys a serial cheat! not the PC thing to say but.....good lad!!!

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    1. Aidy
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      Who else did he go with?

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      1. tosey
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        8 year affair with his bruvs sister apparently and they reckon theres a 3rd bird too

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        1. Aidy
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          I'm presuming you mean Brothers girl/wife and surely not his brothers sister lol Any sources?

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            1. TommyK
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              lol- I'm sure she's devastated about the massive amount of money she's making out of this.... 🙄

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              1. Aidy
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                Upset: Imogen Thomas, seen here in London on Saturday, took to Twitter to vent her frustrations over new affair claims surrounding Ryan Giggs

                The utter cheek of the slapper, what about his missus who stood by him.

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                1. TommyK
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                  Credit where it's due- who knew she could write??? 😆

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        2. applebonkers
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          surely that's incest?

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          1. tosey
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            oops yeh sorry!

            just the papers, heres one but if u google giggs its all over twitter today

            http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/06/07/ryan-giggs-affair-mystery-third-woman-claims-she-bedded-the-manchester-united-ace-115875-23184634/

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            1. applebonkers
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              nothing like a story that seems to be over then BANG it gets a little bit better

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            2. applebonkers
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              the ultimate giggs affair girl would be pippa middleton. that one would be HUGE

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      2. Gold Monster
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        His brothers missus!!!!

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  4. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    rate these players by means of better ff players (not taking into account fixture order)

    Smárason
    Kasami
    Shaqiri
    Konoplyanka
    Yarmolenko
    Moravek
    Lustenberger
    Herrera

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    1. Boom!!!
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      Konoplyanka
      Shaqiri
      Herrera
      Yarmolenko
      Smárasson
      Kasami
      Lustenberger
      Moravek

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      1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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        cheers boom, you going for any of those?

        had shaqiri, smarasson, kasami, erikson, and korniplanks but undeiced really

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        1. Boom!!!
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          i am going for konoplyanka ,sigurdsson(both on set-pieces) and one of shaqiri/kasami/mehmedi in mid ...

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          1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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            no erikson then.

            I am trying to have a relatively light mid and load up on the attack.

            Currently Sturridge, Bojan and the pecker

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  5. Attila the Bum
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    So Jol has the Fulham job - always seemed a decent manager to me.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      He managed to fck over both my bets in one move. Had Jol to Villa and McLeish to Fulham

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      1. applebonkers
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        j lol

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          😯

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      For goals, not for defending IMO.

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Well he already has some decent defenders. I think they need to invest upfront. Not mad on Johnson or Zamora

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          WHAT!

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          1. Boom!!!
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            +1

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          2. Attila the Bum
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            WHAT?!
            Whose rattled your cage? 😛
            I'm just not a fan

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            1. Fratboy
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              me either, both inconsistent apart and together

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    3. CRUSHER
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      He'll probably demand a lot of money for transfers and then proceed to play th elong ball to Dembele or something and hope for the best.

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  6. TommyK
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    Is the thing about Giggs and his brother's wife only in the Mail? I hope it is, because then that will mean it's definitely bullshit.... 😛

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    1. Boom!!!
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      Shane Warne > Ryan Giggs

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      1. TommyK
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        If ">" means fatter then yes. 😉

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  7. Boom!!!
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    barca wants enrique 😯

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    1. TommyK
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      Faster than me...

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  8. TommyK
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    I'm sure ATB will be thrilled....

    http://twitter.com/#!/laliga_news/status/78077573376122880

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Much rather he went there than Liverpool.

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      1. Goose
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        +1

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  9. greghammer95
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    Sinclair Holt and Taarabt. I'm going to try and get them in to begin with depending on fixtures and price of course...

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    1. Goose
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      Rate My Predicted FFS Generic Team:

      Begovic + 4/4.5m GK (must perceive to rotate well)

      Baines/Similar Expensive Defender + 4 Cheapies (at least 2 of which from Championship/never played in the Prem before possibly involving doubling/tripling up)

      Taarabt + Sinclair + Mid/Highish Price Mid + 2 cheapish mids who did ok last season

      RVP Hernandez Suarez

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        3/10. 😉

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      2. Boom!!!
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        1/10!

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        1. Goose
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          Is that mark for the quality of the team or the accuracy of the prediction?!

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  10. Attila the Bum
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    Bye bye Alan Smith. A good forward until injuries ruined him. Was always a lousy midfielder though, ok for the championship but not Prem level.
    Not overly pushed about Nolan rejecting the contract offer, he still has 2 years to go on his current deal. He seems like a good captain, but he is a fairly limited player - although he does score some important goals now and again.

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    1. Dino
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      Attila,

      How do you feel about the club allowing the big earners to leave the club by not offering decent contracts? I heard a rumour from a toon fan last year that any new contracts had to be lower then 30k (might have even been 25k I'm not sure)? If this is the case then for me there is only one way the club can go.

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Well its pretty hard to say. Nothing concrete has come out, and the fan rumour mill tends to be pessimistic when Fat Ashley is involved.
        There is no doubt he has a cap in there, exactly how much though is hard to guess. I think the reason the Barton and Nolan contracts have failed is more due to duration rather than money, there is definitely an ethos there to curtail older players contracts when they are on big money. That makes decent pragmatic sense, but will inevitably cause friction when the older more senior players (Barton and Nolan this season, probably Coloccini at the end of next) fail to agree new terms.
        He seems to want young players who have a resale value. That's fine but it would be a detriment to the team to lose its spine, so he should be more balanced with his policy.
        I dont think his salary cap is so low, otherwise we wouldnt have got Ben Arfa or Cabaye who were both highly rated and I think are on around £35k ish per week.

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        1. Dino
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          I think you might be right, it could be more to do with age rather and length of contract required rather than actual value of contract.

          It will be interesting to see how it turns out however as (Sweet) FA does seem to be a shrewed business man and therefore may well be able to get the club to a position where it could be a decent investment proposition for a new owner. For me I think this is his sole goal now (no pun intended) as he has been looking for an exit strategy where he doesn't lose his shirt for the last few years.

          With the likes of Norwich and Swansea getting promoted he has every chance of staying in the epl next season even with a reduced playing squad imo. so his strategy might just work.

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  11. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    hmmm so kasami and at least a second keeper who will play, or mehmedi?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      shaqiri/mehmedi imo...

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      1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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        shaqiri over Bjarnason?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          if u want to play safe go for Bjarnason bcoz u can atleast see iceland team before the deadline...shaqiri,if starts,is on set-pieces...

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          1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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            awesome, cheers Boom

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  12. Aidy
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    I read that for the last 2 years that the winner of The overall league has come from this website, but did they chat much or hang about today?

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    1. Fratboy
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      Apparently the winner of 09/10 did a little "Jon Reeson" but I only saw Mcgurn on here once and I'm fairly sure it wasn't him...

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      1. Boom!!!
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        it was him 😉

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        1. Fratboy
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          don't do that 🙂

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  13. Aidy
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    Ghana keeper drops the ball on 91 one minutes into the path of the Korean who scored, and a minute later the whistle blows.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Not another fix is it?

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      1. Fratboy
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        sounds pretty outrageous...damn unlucky man that destroyed your bet right?

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      2. Aidy
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        It wasn't the greatest attempt at a save; from a weakish header at an acute angle. Just with the events last week it dis make me think twice.

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      I was on the three draws this am - raging!!!!!

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  14. In Like Flynn.
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    Afternoon chaps, have just got Ladbrokes season prices, does anyone know when other bookies are quoting for this year? I don't bet on-line only at the shops. Ladbrokes are a lot earlier this year than last, must be desperate for the trade,still look like some pretty skinny odds to me though.

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    1. tosey
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      http://www.oddschecker.com

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Thanks Tosey. 🙂 Sorry for late reply,I got involved in all the prices.

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  15. Aidy
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    Yep serbia 3/1 (should have won tbh), Korea Ghana 5/2 and Japan Czec which drawed 5/2. 3x£30 doubles and a £10 single on the Korea Draw. Goal cost me about £390. Think Total possible was a £1200 return.

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    1. Aidy
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      Right lets see whats next.

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        any ideas? Not much football on til later

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  16. Aidy
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    Right got a good bet on PP for ya. German ladies are 1/14 to win, yet german ladies ht/ft is 4/1 and draw ht win ft is 4/1. Bet both and your getting 2/1. Draw / draw is 2/5 yet draw overall is 15/2.

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    1. Aidy
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      Germany Ladies v Holland Ladies - I dont think you actually need a bet on this one to enjoy it.

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        When does it start? (Betting reasons..)

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        1. Aidy
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          15:30 Mate.

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            ty

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        2. Aidy
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          Oh German ladies 2nd in world and Holland like 18th. Last games I've seen they thumped other team, apart from the USA and Japan. Over 2.5 goals 6/25

          EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIPS – – – –

          Germany 1989 Champions
          Denmark 1991 Champions
          Italy 1993 Fourth Place
          Germany 1995 Champions
          Norway 1997 Champions
          Germany 2001 Champions
          England 2005 Champions
          Finland 2009 Champions

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          1. Aidy
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            The above means they won the european championships those years and places are where they were held. They also won the 2003, 2007 world cups.

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      2. Aidy
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        Bet365 have German women HT/FT 2/5. Draw HT Germany FT 10/3. Defo looks a good bet now. I'm on HT/FT.

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          Good bet, I'm on

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          1. Aidy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Put a small 1/3 back on the draw/germany ft, so if that happens won't have lost today.

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            1. Scott Parker's Brylcre…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              I just stuck £20 on each. Your strategy?

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              1. Aidy
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                German ladies now 4/9 ht/ft 10/3 draw/ft. Dazzler if they were like 1/14 or 1/10 for a win. You bet them half time and full time at 4/1, half the odds as uve 2 bets. That equals 2/1. Would you not take odds of 2/1 on a 1/10-1/14 shot. Might lose, thats sport, but fairly decent bet. I would take those all day long.

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                1. Aidy
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 7 months ago

                  BOOOOOM 1-0 To the Kaisets.

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                  1. Scott Parker's Brylcre…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 7 months ago

                    Spot on Andy, I really didn't think my strategy through. Should have lumped on ze Germans to be winning HT/FT & then covered with Draw/Germany. How did you pick it out?

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                  2. Aidy
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 7 months ago

                    Could of swore I seen them 1.7 this AM. I wasnt taking 1/7 anyhow never mind 1/14. So went in to find some value on the German side, maybe a -1 or that. 4/1 for that short a fav stands out. Then wonder if I can cover a draw h/t as thought would win FT and it was 4/1. HO HO 2-0 up now folks.

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                  3. Scott Parker's Brylcre…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 7 months ago

                    Aidy even, 2-0. happy days
                    Where abouts in the north are you from? I'm in Andytown

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                  4. Aidy
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 7 months ago

                    I'm from Glengormley. Was up Andytown Sunday for that memorial thing. Well think was about there. Did you know where I was from team flag? I was like eah?

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                  5. Aidy
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 7 months ago

                    4-0. Happy flowers.

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  17. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I saw a post afew days back regarding set piece and pen takers for u21,

    does anyone have a list?

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Good work by boom here:

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/06/06/end-of-season-report-norwich-city/comment-page-1/#comment-1691329

      Can't find an official list though

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      1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        thanks again boom and demi

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    2. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      czech pen taker could be perkhart or dockal...bcoz both have taken 1 pen each in the qualifiers..perkhart took one when dockal was not on the pitch btw...

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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Pekhart may be the goal man but Dockal is Czech´s MVP!

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  18. King Nil Miss ✩
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Lol! QPR looking at Materazzi..the opponents already feeling pain coming..

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      QPR apparently in the market for Upson too...

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      1. Goose
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Wow, QPR must really wanna get relegated!

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        1. TO
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          🙂

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  19. King Nil Miss ✩
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    OMG this summer news! Now Chelsea wants Sneijder! This way better than seeing humour videos on Youtube..

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    1. King Nil Miss ✩
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      *This is..

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  20. Soop
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Is it possible to make a potential England Squad out of love rats?

    GK
    DEF DEF Cole Terry
    Giggs MID MID MID
    Rooney Crouch

    Manager: Avram Grant

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Why is Giggs there

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Oh right, he's Welsh.

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Yeahhh,

      Hart
      Cole Terry Rio Johnson
      Young Lampard Gerrard Lennon
      Rooney Crouch

      Rednapp

      Soem just are better are not getting caught

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I suspected Rio >__>

        Lampard though?

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          1. Soop
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            blocked 🙁

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            1. Kings of Lyon ★
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              Just saying Lampard got caught in Vegas. I didnt actually know that. I was just trying to prove that the majority of uneducated footballers with that wealth will not knock back these wenches.

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    3. TO
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Beckham on the wing

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    4. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      How could you not have Becks in that team? I would also go with Sven as Manager he is way more experienced and probably go 433 with Defoe upfront as well.

      Stan Collymore in the commentary box obv.

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      1. TO
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Andy Gray on standby if SC cant make it

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        1. MCH
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          I'm sure if Stan had something on he would cancel it just to watch.

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          1. Aidy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Im sure all of the above couldn't have done it without Seaman 🙂 Boom Boom Well apart from Terry, he has no balls. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1199140/David-Seamans-wife-claims-ex-footballer-husband-cheated-twice-latest-fling-Dancing-Ice-skater.html

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            1. MCH
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              It could all quickly go wrong if Paul Dickov showed up....

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              1. TO
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                lol

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  21. Nutella
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    hows the cricket looking any chance of an england win?

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      great early wicket but we need one every 15 minutes or less to win....not likely!

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  22. Soop
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Aidy, you know a lot about betting. Do the odds of a specific result - say win lose draw - add up to 1/1? So if you bet on all eventualities, you'd get your money back?

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Haven't tried, but I'd say you'd lose out.

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        me too. Popped into my head yesterday about a complex system of bets that would earn a reasonable amount of money from small initial bets but would cover as many unexpected results as possible.

        I was thinking about the old chess wheat problem.

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        1. MCH
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          If you bet online and only use your account for bets like this you will find you are quickly shut down.

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          1. Soop
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Would they confiscate my money? (the bastards)

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            1. MCH
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              No they can't that would be illegal but they can close your account or only allow you to bet 20c/20p etc. Each punter has a rating and that determines the stakes you can place. If you are winning and they think it is because you have an edge on them they will not let you bet happened with me in cricket it was a proud day!!

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    2. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      No. Bookies make money off margin built into their prices. Football is fairly low margin normally around 4% Horse it can be upto 40% and Dogs is just lol. Sometimes prices at different bookies can work out that you make a profit betting on all outcomes, its called arbitrage betting, but these days its rare.

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      1. MCH
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        For example you can sometimes bet on the outcome of the coin flip at the start of a match and the prices are 5/6 so if you bet £6 on each side you would always be betting £12 and always be getting back £11.

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      2. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Ok, that's interesting. I just don't understand odds yet.

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        1. Soop
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Ok, wow. I didn't know work did this, but I just googled "arbitrage betting" to see how it worked, and it's blocked by the proxy.

          That's freaky.

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          1. MCH
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Basically it works by differing opinions of the traders at different companies or if one company has some huge money while others haven't a small low expected turnover match tennis is the normal time. Say for example there are two unknown players and most bookies have them at 5/6 each but one bookie has info that Player A and B train together and A almost always wins then they might go 1/3 A and 2/1 B now you are able to bet on A with one bookie at 5/6 and B with another at 2/1 and make a tidy. But as I say bookies software quickly closes this down.

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          2. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Tosey sent me a link for price comparisons for season long bets Soop. About half way up this page. Some significant differences,but nothing to cover all options and come out on top.They do turn up during the season from time to time,but you have to get on quickly.

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            1. MCH
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              http://www.oddschecker.com and http://www.bestbetting.com are probably the most comprehensive two I prefer bestbetting.com no real reason I just do!

              You are only really going to find arbs on small markets (3/4 outcomes tops) the amount of margin built into things like Premier League betting is to big for any random prices to make a difference.

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        2. MCH
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          If you convert the fraction into a percentage then add all the percentages together the smaller the total is over 100% the smaller the amount of money you lose per bet. Very rarely the total will be <100% but the betting companies have software that check other prices and will adjust quickly to stop it from happening.

          In a football match if all three 90 outcomes are 2/1 (never going to happen!) then each is 33 1/3% to win so the total is 100% so you will get your money back. If each outcome is Evens (1/1) 50% then the total for the match is 150% so you are losing a lot betting on that and if each is 3/1 25% then the total is 75% and the margin is in your favour. The idea of this to help make sense of it but having read it not sure how clear it will be lol!

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        3. Aidy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Divide by the bottom and multiply by the top. Just remember bookies always advertise multiples for their big payouts, but at the end of the day.... the reason they are doing that is because they make most money from it i.e. more punters lose. Best is a single bet or a double if you cannot make the money back in time for the 2nd kickoff.

          http://www.betcalc.com/

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    3. Aidy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      No, each bookmaker will always have it under so they make a profit, but if you bet across different bookmakers you can, or make a slight profit. I never bother with that though. Just do the research. I quite like soccerway for football help.

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      1. Aidy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Soop here is a book I read, its not all stats, its nicely written, and has some nice stories about peoples bets. I hate readin yet enjoyed this. It will give you a good overview of betting. I do not use betfair, even though they have better odds. I prefer to scout bookmaker sites for mistakes or whatnot. Like one time there was darts comp in Holland, they got the times wrong and we had the results before the end of the game for 2 days. Obviously we are not muppets and didnt lump on like 1000's on correct scores. There was also a Argi game night or so ago with wrong kickoff. There wasnt a goal in the first 15 mins so I never bet, but you get the idea.

        http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4CHG2GYS

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        1. Soop
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          awesome, I'll remember to get this at home - cheers man ^___^

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  23. King Nil Miss ✩
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone knows if this talk about Cahill going to Man City for 17M£ has any truth in it?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      1st i've heard of it. which one?

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    2. Goose
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      City linked with over paying on an average (usually English) player?! What do u think? 😉

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Ahhh not the aussie then 🙂

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      2. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        You´re right just saw the true source....Daily Mirror..

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        1. Goose
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Still hoping / wishing / waiting for them to join the race for Henderson 😉

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  24. King Nil Miss ✩
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Odds for 11/12 CL winner at Betclick:

    Barcelona - 3,00 Real Madrid - 6,00
    Chelsea 8,00 Man. United - 8,00
    Man. City - 14,00 Arsenal - 18,00
    Inter - 18,00 AC Milan - 18,00
    FC Porto - 20,00 Bayern Munique - 20,00
    Dortmund - 30,00 Lyon - 40,00
    Valencia - 40,00 Bayer Leverkusen - 50,00

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    1. MCH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      5/2 Barca with Titan looks good.

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      1. Aidy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I would have thought more than that with the investment coming in for Chelsea and City, as well as having teams like Man Utd and Real adding. They where also eves in the final.

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    2. Goose
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Gonna have some money on Madrid this year, usually only takes Jose a season to get sorted.

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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        +1

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      2. Aidy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Is he staying now?

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        1. King Nil Miss ✩
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          ??

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          1. Aidy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Jose, thought the Real President didn't like him and he was returning to England.

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            1. King Nil Miss ✩
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              No! That was with Valdano who alreadywas sacked for Zinedaninez...

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              1. Aidy
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                Eah?

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            2. Scott Parker's Brylcre…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              Nah just spotted that you were from NI on your FPL team. 4-0 now, it's a wrap son!!

              Must have a duke at some teams for later

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  25. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    How many Taylors do Newcastle want?

    And Congrats to Fulham on Martin Jol appointment believe that could be good for them.

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  26. Scott Parker's Brylcre…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    1-0 Germany ladies

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  27. King Nil Miss ✩
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    U21FF:

    Hochstrasser or Eriksen?

    Shaqiri or Kasami?

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Eriksen

      Shaqiri

      Simples

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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks but sorted for an oop midfielder! Might go with a mid price Danish mid..

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  28. Demí
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Sky Sports understands that Newcastle United have offered a new long-term contract to Danny Simpson.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6969648,00.html

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    1. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Meh.
      He's not the best.

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      1. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        He´s the best at his FF price..lol!

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        for 3.9 he was dynamite 😀 I have you to thank for that purchase on his return from injury.

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  29. Coot
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Swans agree terms with Danny boy

    http://www.swanseacity.net/page/Latest/0,,10354~2372897,00.html

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  30. alsybach
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I heard a load of Villa fans on Talk crap radio earlier saying that they would not buy their season tickets if Steve Mclaren took over and because they were such a big club they should have someone like Carlo Ancelotti......I have a few questions about this.......

    1) Are Villa any good?
    2) Are they a big club?
    3) Is Steve Mclaren a bad manager?
    4) Should fans buy a season ticket regardless of the manager?
    5) Do you think he will develop a brummie accent?
    6) Will Villa get relegated next season alomg with Newcastle and Swansea????

    the first correct answer pulled out of the bag wins a night out with Imogen Thomas........

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Thats a no bad prize btw.

      1) Yes they are good mid table I reckon 9th this season
      2) I would not say they are a big club as they are a mid table team with no recent european achievments
      3) Yes he is, see Wolfsburg & England
      4) Yes
      5) I f*ckn hope so 🙂
      6) no, they will finish 9th.

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      1. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Dear KOL,
        You have won a night out with Imogen thomas.......and believe me she puts out on the first date!!

        yours sincerely

        Ryan

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Yaaassss, wee Welsh dragon. 'give it me harder boyo and spit on my face'

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