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10 August 2014 6110 comments
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With just six days remaining until the 2014/15 season gets up and running, City and Arsenal go head-to-head for the Community Shield this afternoon. As expected, both side’s starting line-ups have been heavily influenced by a lack of pre-season action for a number of World Cup stars, though Arsene Wenger hands all three of his main summer signings competitive debuts:

Man City Starting XI: Caballero; Clichy, Boyata, Nastasic, Kolarov; Navas, Fernando, Toure, Nasri; Jovetic, Dzeko

Arsenal Starting XI: Szczesny; Debuchy, Koscielny, Chambers, Gibbs; Arteta, Wilshere; Alexis, Ramsey, Cazorla; Sanogo

For City, Stevan Jovetic has the chance to continue the form which has harvested five goals over the summer so far. The Montenegro international is partnered by Edin Dzeko up top and, whilst the likes of Samir Nasri and Yaya Toure also make the XI, Arsenal will be optimistic of taking advantage of an experimental City backline, which sees Gael Clichy fielded as a right-back once again and Aleks Kolarov patrolling the left.

Arsene Wenger names Mathieu Debuchy and Callum Chambers in defence alongside Laurent Koscielny and Kieran Gibbs. Aaron Ramsey owners will be buoyed by what appears to be a move to the attacking midfield three alongside Santi Cazorla and Alexis Sanchez, with Mikel Arteta and Jack Wilshere sitting in front of the defence. Up front, Sanchez’ role out wide means Yaya Sanogo gets the nod after his four-goal demolition of Benfica in last week’s Emirates Cup, with Olivier Giroud warming the bench again.

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  1. d1sable
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    Is Eric Dier likely to be nailed on for Spurs? Looking at him in the Sun game.

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      Highly doubt it. Can see Kaboul and Vert being the centre backs.

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    2. Walsh
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      I would imagine he was bought by Poch with the idea he would partner Vert but when that comes to fruition is anyones guess.

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    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      I would say keep away in the sun game especially cos u can't transfer straight out. Kaboul and vertd will start the opening games even if we get this new kid from Villarreal.

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  2. Optimus.
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    I love this place..Yesterday Sterling was too expensive with poor fixtures..Now look... 🙂

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      Didn't see the game today did he get a couple of assists? I'm expecting a big season of him this year.

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      1. Optimus.
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        He got one assist,with better finishing he should have had a goal or 2

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Infuriating fickleness...

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      1. Long Juan Silva
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        ^

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  3. Bull
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    Any nailed on 4.0 Goalkeepers? I have 0.5 to spare, so can upgrade any 4.0 GK to a 4.5, but would rather use that money to upgrade outfield players with a transfer once the season begins. My starting GK is De Gea.

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    1. The Wayfarer
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      No nailed on 4.0m 'keepers, no

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    2. t4thomas
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      I think Gilks is a good 4M keeper, as he probably is the most competition for the no1.

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    3. kwyap123
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      Exactly. You won't find any good reason for rotate DDG with a 4.5 goalie, atleast the first 8 matches. Giks/Myhill to warm bench.

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    4. Bull
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      I was worried there isn't a starting 4.0 GK, I've gone with Krul for now instead of a 4.0.

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  4. Trigg â­ï¸
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    Ultimate FPL.

    Good fun, or just another headache to deal with?

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    1. SW6
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      FPL is proving more of a headache, might just give up on it altogether and focus on UFPL

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      1. Trigg â­ï¸
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        I was going to do UFPL, but yeah, I'm having enough headaches with one team.

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    2. Defcons are for Kinnear
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      Waste of money

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      1. Debauchy
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        5 pound ?

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    3. Debauchy
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      Great Fun - You can get all those diffs that you really want to punt on with little risk.

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    4. t4thomas
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      Pointless.

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      1. Debauchy
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        Broken pencil ?

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        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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          Be better if they offered side cash games like telegraph

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    5. Heytch
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      Should have just allowed us to buy-in for different amounts like in the US sports, with our normal teams!! E.g £5 leave, £50, £500

      Who needs a new format.

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      1. Heytch
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        *league not leave

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  5. Obi Wan Elokobi
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    Ratings out of 10 on this lot, believe there is good balance throughout.

    Krul, (Elliott)
    Caulker, Cameron, Van Aanholt, (Hutton, Clyne)
    Ramsey, Hazard, Henderson, Eriksen, Mata
    Rooney, Costa, Bojan

    Cheers guys.

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    1. Gazpilicueta
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      9

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    2. t4thomas
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      8.

      Think you need a name in defence.

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    3. fedolefan
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      Downgrade Bojan to Naismith, Up a 5.0 to a Utd defender. In GW2, you can bring in siggy for Henderson. I was on a similar team not too long ago but tweaked it to get in lord yaya.

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  6. Owd Big 'Ed
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    De Gea, Gilks
    Luis, van Aanholt, Ward, Coloccini, Chester
    Mata, Ramsey, Eriksen, Snodgrass, Marney
    Rooney, Costa, Dzeko

    Please could you give me your thoughts? I appreciate you all have busy lives but I'm currently on a packed train sat on a dirty floor so any input would help to cure the boredom.

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    1. Gazpilicueta
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      you get bonus points for having rooney, mata and Costa, but wheres hazard?

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      1. Owd Big 'Ed
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        Can't squeeze him in if I get Dzeko as well. Is it time to consider the 3-5-2?

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    2. Mr Tin
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      Not bad. A little top heavy but if you're determined to play 3 up top then there has to be a bit of give elsewhere.

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  7. Whiskerz
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    Please pick one:

    1) Lovren + Terry + 0
    2) Lovren + Luis + 0.5
    3) Vert + Luis + 0

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    1. Gazpilicueta
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      3)

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      1. Whiskerz
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        Not concerned over Vert's 0 pre-season game time?

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  8. Bubz
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    It's Cahill, Terry or nobody on the Chelsea defender front imo.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Silly Billy.

      Ivanovic you good luck, though. 😉

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      1. Wilshere Knowledge
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        A Millwall badge beckons... 😉 😀

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        1. Mílanista
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          *Spurs 😉

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
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            😯 I best start looking! 😆

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          I would honour such a thing! 😉

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      2. Bubz
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        Ivanovic is simply too expensive for my taste unfortunately

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  9. Gazpilicueta
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    *Cries*

    I need help, my brain cant take it, its too much!

    *cries some more*

    I NEED, my defence, (All 5 players) to cost no more than 22mil

    I need it to be that way, I know some of u have tried to help me already, but telling me how bad it is doesnt help....unless u can let me know how u would spend that 22mil in a way which may be viable.

    comments please

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    1. Walsh
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      van Aanholt, Rio, Colo, Morgan, Hutton.

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    2. thes7s
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      4*4.5+ 4.0

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      1. Gazpilicueta
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        I like it, how would u run it? 3 nailed 4.5's and some backup?

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      No, you don't. You are being thick.

      6
      666
      1111

      Cleanies.

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      1. Gazpilicueta
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        what?

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  10. Rödallegabomb á´¿á´®
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    Just to let you all know, the VORP interactive table is available if you look in the members tables in the members section, however, the post about it will come later on, hopefully as an article.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Does this mean our teams can go at VORP speed? 😉

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      1. Rödallegabomb á´¿á´®
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        😆

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    2. MJ6987
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      What is VORP?

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      1. Rödallegabomb á´¿á´®
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        Value Over Replacement Player

        This is why I wanted the post to go with it, as it explains the concept and how the scores are calculated

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        1. MJ6987
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          What does that mean?

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          1. Rödallegabomb á´¿á´®
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            Its a method of calculating player value, by comparing them to an alternative in the position. That is included in the score.

            Basically, the higher the VORP score the better.

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        2. Mr Tin
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          2 pints of VORP and a packet of crisps please.

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      2. Defcons are for Kinnear
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        Very Over Rated Players

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        1. Debauchy
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          Ahhhh tx , all clear now

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      3. Podge
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        Violent Old Roman Polanski

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    3. The Machine
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      ðŸ™

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    4. nevertrustbony
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      It looks cool but i don't understand it, so yeah definitely do a post to go with

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      1. Rödallegabomb á´¿á´®
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        Its essentially the higher up the player, the better. The VORP score is a value score. You can chose the position to view and narrow it down to teams to view specific players, and compare players like Eriksen and Lamela or Hazard and Fabregas. The higher the VORP, the better. In some cases, players are there due to price, but they may be good options.

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        1. nevertrustbony
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          okay sounds good, looking forward to the article 🙂

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    5. Debauchy
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      Will buying some VORP help my rating ?

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    6. the cromulent one
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      Excellent! I'm looking forward to the article.
      I think this is a much better way to evaluate players, certainly better than a simple points/price.
      I'll have a look at the tables tonight.

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  11. No Pirlo No Party
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    Tinkering away.... thoughts appreciated lads.

    A) Costa - Bojan - Henderson (3-5-2)
    or
    B) Giroud - Dzeko - Davis (5.0 MF) (3-4-3)

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  12. ADucksBehind
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    Best mid for 8m or less for gameweek 1?

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    1. Mulder
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      Hmmm Coutinho maybe

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    2. Reeker
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      Eriksen?

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      1. ADucksBehind
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        Looking for someone to play 1 week and then switch to eriksen

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        1. Reeker
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          Just play Eriksen. Planning a transfer for the first GW is a bad idea

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        2. Bubz
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          Awful idea. It's not like he has a bad fixture either?

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      2. Ben Mee Over A Table
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        Eriksen, Lamela, Arnie, Snoddy in that order probably.

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  13. The Iron Tulip
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    Lamela a good pick do we think? Will he play in the hole?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      No and no.

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      1. Gazpilicueta
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        who is this guy? captain negative?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          That's me! 😆

          Not at all. 🙂

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        2. Walsh
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          There are only 15 viable options and they are all on his team sheet. Everyone else is rubbish 🙂

          Don't worry, you'll get used to it.

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          1. Gazpilicueta
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            I refuse to get used to it. its terribly annoying, this is a community designed to help each other.

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            1. Walsh
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              He is helpful though. Gives interesting views, just different. The more you get used to each posters' personality you will filter out things and take from them what you can 😉

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        3. Trigg â­ï¸
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          I think you will find that two negatives make a positive.

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    2. Sting
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      The forward players will be fluid. He's worth a punt but Eriksen is on set pieces.

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    3. Yome
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      A very good differential

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    4. Debauchy
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      Which hole ?

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    5. Podge
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      Yes 10 points minimum week 1

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    6. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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      I think he will play in hole. Not sure if he worth choosing yet..still needs to prove himself in premier..

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  14. Sting
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    Who is the best 4.5m keeper option you would be happy to play for the first 3-4 weeks?

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    1. The Iron Tulip
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      Maybe Guzan for first 3?

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  15. Obi Wan Elokobi
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    Zoltan Gera scores for Ferencvaros

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  16. Crazykolo
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    Navas or nasri?

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    1. Yome
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      None but to pick one then Nasri

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  17. Yome
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    RMT please:
    DDG, Gilks
    Luis, Debuchy, Ward, Wisdom, Moore
    Ramsey, Mata, Lamela, Siggy, Marney
    Rooney, Costa, Giroud

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  18. Prawn Wright Phillips
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    whats the general consensus on yaya?

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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      did you watch the game today?

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      1. Prawn Wright Phillips
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        no brian i did not

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        1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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          well he just wasn't interested...

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        2. Ben Mee Over A Table
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          Speaks volumes.

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  19. Defcons are for Kinnear
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    Looking at Lamela and Eriksen stats for pre season shows only one thing

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    1. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      That you're getting trolled?

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    2. fedolefan
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      Yeah, what's the crystal ball saying?

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  20. Daniel Levy- Not the Chairm…
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    Is their any reason that it looks as if Oscar and Willian (as well as Schurlle) are likely to start or play some role in the first gameweek but that all of the Arsenal players involved in Semi-finals or later of the world cup are not going to play any role. Also the same can be said with Everton who have fitness concerns over both Lukaku and Mirallas (despite Belgium going home at the quarter-final stage).

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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      I suppose it's a mixture of different players and different managers.

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  21. Piggs Boson
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    Costa/Sterling is 2.5m cheaper than Sturridge/Hazard.

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    1. Optimus.
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      All 4 ftw 😎 😉

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    2. Sting
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      And yet I own Sturridge/Hazard

      ðŸ™

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    3. The Machine
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      thats what i have, with enough itb to do sterling > hazard the following week, if required

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  22. Optimus.
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    ...............Green
    ....Chambers Wilson PvA
    Hazard Sterling Ramsey Young
    ...Rooney Sturridge Costa

    Elliot Marney Wisdom Hutton

    Thankfully I can sleep easy knowing I won't have to make another change to my team......that is until this time next week when I'm on a WC

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    1. Mílanista
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      Good team, might not need to wildcard.

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      1. Optimus.
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        I might get lucky,hopefully..The backline is a bit of a worry 🙂

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        1. Mílanista
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          Good for week 1 though, that's all that matters for now 😉

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    2. The Rock
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      Lose Young, defense is very light i feel. Chambers won't be a sure starter either. Only for the first couple of GWs.

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      1. Optimus.
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        I know the risks 😉

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
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      😆

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    4. Limbo
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      "that is until this time next week when I'm on a WC"

      Haha, so true.

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      1. Optimus.
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        It's inevitable 😀

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    5. McSauce
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      Ah was waiting to see what your team will be!

      Your backing Young I see????

      Great frontline

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      1. Optimus.
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        Well I reckon he will start gw1..

        This is 1 of my 2 drafts,the 2nd one having Jovetic over Sturridge with a stronger defence 🙂

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    6. Spin
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      Surely Chambers wont start for Arsenal.
      Cant see Wenger throwing a rookie into the league games

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      1. Optimus.
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        He should start gw1 and then I will see if Mariappa is a starter then 😉

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    7. Podge
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      More than half on here will have WC'd by week 4 so at least you have planned it.

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      1. Optimus.
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        I've never made it to gw4 in my Fpl history 😀

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  23. Long Juan Silva
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    Hope Gnabry goes on loan before the season starts so I can have a decent 5th mid

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  24. Nomar
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    • 16 Years
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    Looks at team, scratches head and thinks maybe its a good idea to get rid of Yaya......

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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      yep.

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    2. Debauchy
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      yep

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  25. PMC3
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    Drogba limping.

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    1. Del Griffith
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      he needs his walking stick 😉

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  26. thes7s
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    Sorry but I'm not going to watch games hoping for cleanies, Sam Alladryce fantasy is way boring.

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    1. stilicho
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      You do have to pick defenders. Are you really not going to hope they get clean sheets?

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  27. puddingbrood
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    Can't wait for Eto'o to Ajax 🙂

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  28. Top 210 Club
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    Team sorted! Am I missing anything folks?

    Green

    Cahil *** Chambers *** Debuchy

    Eriksen ** Mata ** Fabregas ** Coutinho

    Rooney (c) * Bojan * Diego Costa (vc)

    Subs: Speroni - Young - Hutton - Bartley

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  29. Andre W
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    Nasri, Sterling or Silva

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  30. Count of Monte Hristo
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    Terry // Evans // ???

    a) Lovren

    b) Vertonghen

    c) 5.0

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    1. The Rock
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      A

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    2. Andre W
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      Ward or Lovren

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      1. Del Griffith
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        To start I'd say Ward until Pool fixtures ease up

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    3. Ben Mee Over A Table
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      Ward/Caulker and reinvest.

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