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16 February 2011 776 comments
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Tottenham’s stunning victory in Milan riled Gennaro Gattuso to the point of head-butting a 59-year-old and completely overshadowed Newcastle’s fine 2-0 win at St Andrews. Well almost. European matches make lovely distractions but it’s events on a damp evening in Birmingham that really matter to us Fantasy Managers…

Jonas Gutierrez was undoubtedly the star performer on show. Picked out in our Scouting the Doubles article as a possible punt and subject of recent attention in our Members’ Numbers Game articles, the Argentinian came good with two superb assists which help to earn him 3 FPL Bonus Points for the first time this season.

Leon Best is beginning to emerge as an extremely viable third striker option. His fifth goal of the season saw him out-jump Birmingham’s Roger Johnson on the far post and was enough to earn him Bonus recognition. Best’s starting role in Alan Pardew’s lineup looks assured and at just 4.3, he looks a strong bench forward selection to free up cash elsewhere in our squads.

The Newcastle back four kept its second consecutive clean sheet having claimed a 0-0 at Ewood at the weekend. Their defence looked a shambles in the first-half against Arsenal but Pardew’s rearguard has suddenly discovered some resolve. The likes of Danny Simpson and Mike Williamson are offering value at the very bottom of the price scale, with Jose Enrique and Fabricio Coloccini also options for those looking for the chance of stronger attacking and Bonus returns.

The potential of Best of other Newcastle assets is improved markedly but a run of fixtures that has them face three of the next four at St James’ Park with Bolton, Everton and Wolves all presenting beatable opposition. A trip to Stoke slotted in at Gameweek 30 also offers opportunity for returns. The Magpies have lost just one of their last eight matches.

Alan Pardew kept faith with the same starting lineup that earned him a point a Blackburn. He does now have concerns on the fitness of striker Peter Lovenkrands however. The Dane opened the scoring in the first minute of last night’s encounter but suffered a thigh injury that forced him off on 77 minutes.

Alex McLeish also kept an unchanged side – with Obafemi Martins starting up front against his former club. He was replaced early in the second-half by Cameron Jerome, as the Nigerian again struggled to make an impact. McLeish is likely to rotate his options somewhat for the FA Cup tie at the weekend with the Carling Cup Final to follow. While Birmingham have a blank in Gameweek 28 then, they do face a double fixture against West Brom and Everton immediately after. That is likely to see Fantasy Managers hold their Birmingham assets, although further investment in the likes of Ben Foster, Roger Johnson and Craig Gardner could be called into question following last night’s result.

Tottenham’s superb 1-0 victory in the San Siro set things up beautifully for the second-leg on March 9. That game follows the away trip to Wovles in Gameweek 29 which comes after the Spurs blank in Gameweek 28. Rest and rotation will be a concern then – particularly for owners of Rafael Van der Vaart. The Dutchman returned to action in last night’s victory and should play some part in the visit to Blackpool next Tuesday. Harry Redknapp does have options however and, with the Milan second-leg in mind, we may well see Van der Vaart and certainly Gareth Bale, kept in reserve with the likes of Niko Kranjcar and Roman Pavlyuchenko presenting options for the trip to Wolves. Redknapp will likely be forced into changes to his back four for the trip to Blackpool next week with Vedran Corluka leaving the San Siro on crutches last night following the “challenge” from Mathieu Flamini.

City’s 0-0 draw in Greece with Aris Salonika saw Edin Dzeko draw a blank and miss further opportunities to settle himself in sky blue. The Bosnian earned a recall to a strong City starting lineup with James Milner and Pablo Zabaleta making way for Dzeko and the return of Shaun Wright-Phillips. Roberto Mancini was quick to offer reassurance for his new striker and hinted that he is looking to give Dzeko time to form his partnership with Carlos Tevez…

“This was only the second time Tevez and Dzeko had played together and they need time to gel. They need more games together”

The appearance of Mario Balotelli from the bench however, indicates that Mancini now has options to rotate his troops up front and we can expect to see a few shuffles over City’s next few league games. City play their FA Cup tie with Notts County and the second leg with Aris before returning to Gameweek action against Fulham at Eastlands.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Reed_Rothchild
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    Barca will unleash all hell and fury on Arsenal, and I'm going to enjoy watcing it unfold.

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  2. arfa
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    only one player has more yellow cards in the Champions League than Gattusso?
    who is it?

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    1. Jonah
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      Hmmm. Scholes?

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      1. arfa
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        we have a winner

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    2. Dannny
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      is it a Man Utd player? i thinkit could be scholes or Keane

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    3. Granville
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      I think I know the answer. Is he the best English midfielder of his generation?

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      1. arfa
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        sop listening to talksport 😉

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        1. Granville
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          At work mate. Kind of obvious though, a yellow card magnet that has played every season bar the first champions league I think. I'll have a guess that he's up there with premier league yellows too.

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          1. arfa
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            he's probably top of the Prem in yellows like you say.it will be a sad day when he finally hangs 'em up.

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      2. The Stock
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        Michael Johnson?

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    4. gatzi
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      Most talked about stat of the past 19 hours

      😛

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      1. arfa
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        i only just found out.....story of my life 🙁

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        1. gatzi
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          Joe Jordan would be a better answer

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  3. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    that reporter screw up vid reminds me of this- very funny

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
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      Lol, what a screw up 😉

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  4. Funkyav
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    Does anyone know where i can get team news ahead of fiorentina vs inter game at 5.30pm?

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  5. Dannny
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    Granville you look like you might be heading for a monster score this week!

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    1. Granville
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      No counting of chickens mate, you invariably get very disappointed.

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        on 80 myself and not expecting major firworks to be honest, something has to go wrong. got etherington, vdv, djouou, adam, walcott, and rvp (captain) to come

        oh, and odemwingie.

        i really really want vdv to get a few is all, main rival has him last on bench.

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        1. Dannny
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          I got I got Djourou, Walcott, V Rapist (c) VDV and odemwingie also so im hoping your wrong and they score big!!

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        2. Granville
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          VDV I need him to play so my h2h opponent doesn't get lucky with Nani. I then need to hope that VDV does nowt.

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          1. Dannny
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            I want VDV to get something! but mainly hoping Persi can get me a bucket of points again! maybe ill get into top 40k again!

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  6. mikess
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    rvp to tevez

    or

    fabregas/vdv to cahill

    opinions please?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
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      out of they 2 fab - cahill, but i think roo to tevez should be you r move

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      1. mikess
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        need to get rid of one of the above mentioned to field 11

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  7. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    sorry, forgot link lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twWw05u_Pk

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  8. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3V2ecJpscI

    love the conductor's light sabre

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  9. weeurquahrt
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    internet

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  10. Granville
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    Premier league yellows

    1 Lee Bowyer 98
    2 Kevin Davies 92
    3 Robbie Savage 89
    4 Paul Scholes 88
    5 George Boateng 85
    6 Patrick Vieira 81
    7 Scott Parker 76
    8 Gavin McCann 74
    9 Nicky Butt 73
    10 Phil Neville 73
    11 Roy Keane 71
    12 Paul Ince 70
    13 Kevin Nolan 68
    14 Frank Sinclair 68
    15 Gary Speed 68
    16 Lucas Neill 67
    17 Alan Smith 67
    18 Gareth Barry 65
    19 Luis Boa Morte 65
    20 Dennis Wise 65

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    1. arfa
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      only fourth

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      1. Granville
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        Must try harder 🙂

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      Six current and ex-toons. Nice 8)

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      1. The Stock
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        including one ex Director of Football during the glory years?

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        1. jamsiep
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          ha!

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        2. Hank
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          Noice!

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        3. Attila the Bum
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          Best Appointment Ever.

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    3. Namtab Nomolos
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      When you reach 100 is it a 20 match ban?

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      1. Granville
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        No but at half time you receive a commemorative silver plated 'gashed leg'

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        1. The Stock
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          Lolzville.

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    4. Hank
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      Keane is only 11th?! That can't be right.

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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        it says YELLOWS, not reds

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        1. Granville
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          Nah, Reds, 5 or more

          1 Richard Dunne 8
          2 Duncan Ferguson 8
          3 Patrick Vieira 8
          4 Vinnie Jones 7
          5 Roy Keane 7
          6 Alan Smith 7
          7 Luis Boa Morte 6
          8 Nicky Butt 6
          9 Andrew Cole 6
          10 John Hartson 6
          11 Franck Queudrue 6
          12 David Batty 5
          13 Francis Benali 5
          14 George Boateng 5
          15 Lee Bowyer 5
          16 Lee Cattermole 5
          17 Ugo Ehiogu 5
          18 Steven Gerrard 5
          19 Don Hutchison 5
          20 Martin Keown 5
          21 Tugay Kerimoglu 5
          22 Frank Leboeuf 5
          23 Steve Lomas 5
          24 Carlton Palmer 5
          25 Frank Sinclair 5
          26 Jason Wilcox 5
          27 Dennis Wise 5

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          1. jamsiep
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            Luis Boa Morte has done pretty well for himself.....

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            1. Soop
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              So has Gerrard seeing as he should probably have twice that.

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              1. Granville
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                These are just Premier League.

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          2. Granville
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            Andy Cole 6, can't remember any of those. Were they all toon Attila?

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            1. Hank
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              He and David Batty double teamed people. Hang on that sounds wrong...

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              1. jamsiep
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                Eurgh.

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              2. The Stock
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                Titterz

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              3. Attila the Bum
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                Urgh!
                I can't remember them either to be honest. Never struck me as a dirty player.

                Ps.
                Batty arrived after we had disposed of Cole. When we had two far superior strikers 🙂

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          3. jamsiep
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            Some serious scumbags on that list... Ferguson, Jones, Smith, Benali etc...

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          4. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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            two Irish men, a Scot, and a colonial Frenchie in the top five. OH, and Vinnie Jones. AVE IT YOU KANTS!!!

            LOVE IT :-d

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            1. Granville
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              Fouls, LMAO at Davies

              1 Kevin Davies 845
              2 George Boateng 594
              3 Gareth Barry 561
              4 Emile Heskey 543
              5 Gavin McCann 522
              6 Alan Smith 500
              7 Luis Boa Morte 472
              8 Tim Cahill 464
              9 James Beattie 451
              10 Robbie Savage 447
              11 Scott Parker 407
              12 Alan Shearer 406
              13 Patrick Vieira 405
              14 Hermann Hreidarsson 388
              15 Kevin Nolan 377
              16 Phil Neville 368
              17 Nicky Butt 366
              18 Michael Brown 363
              19 Paul Scholes 361
              20 Steed Malbranque 360
              21 Gary Speed 358
              22 Darius Vassell 358
              23 Carlton Cole 352
              24 Ayegbeni Yakubu 349
              25 Shola Ameobi 341
              26 Lucas Neill 341
              27 Lee Bowyer 340
              28 Peter Crouch 335
              29 Richard Dunne 329
              30 Steven Gerrard 319

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              1. merts
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                heh heh heh 😆

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              2. Attila the Bum
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                Alan Smith would have had him beat if it wasn't for the injuries 🙂

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              3. Ini
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                LOL winner by a mile. I see Cattermole is on his way to having the most reds...

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              4. Marknlard
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                Poor Kevin Davies. I bet 780 of those fouls were him reversing his behind into a defender.

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                1. Dino
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                  I dont think they do bookings for what happens in the shower room after the match MnL 😯

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  11. The Stock
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    http://www.marca.com/2011/02/16/futbol/liga_campeones/1297856347.html

    I fancy Theo to do some damage tonight too.

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  12. herman murman
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    i fancy arsenal to take a slim lead to the Camp Nou and then to get torn apart in Barcalona. would love to see Arsenal go through

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  13. jamsiep
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    Why do UEFA need to 'launch an investigation' into Gattuso's headbutt? Surely the punishment for headbutting someone is written clearly in the rules, so why not just punish him straight away? Everyone saw what happened, what exactly is investigating the incident going to achieve?

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    1. Soop
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      because it was after the game?

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
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        As in, because the referee probably only has control over what happens during a game, so it's more like an internal investigation.

        Of course it probably involves Fifa rubbing their hands together and figuring out how much money they will get.

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
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          I think it means they probably only meet once a week, so it will be launched at the next meeting and last 5 minutes.

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    2. Epic Fail
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      It's asssault. The police should deal with it.

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  14. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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    Aresenal are great to watch - but they cant pressure off the ball the way barca do - it will only be a one sided affair - christians v lions........

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    1. Soop
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      That reminds me of the entire Cambodian midget wrestling federation Vs a lion.

      lion won.

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    2. Hank
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      *Fetches giant spoon*

      Barca are the best club side in the world. Arsenal aren't even the best side in london, let alone England 😛 😀

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      1. jamsiep
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        Arsenal are the best side in England.

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        1. Granville
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          Not unless they win the league.

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        2. Attila the Bum
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          Meh, had 4 points off them, should have been six. Pity we can't play them every week 😉

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          1. Hank
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            +1 🙂

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      2. Soop
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        Arsenal are pretty good, but I still don't think they're good enough to beat Barcelona.

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        1. Drip Doctor
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          Sporting gijon and Hercules beat Barcelona, who thought they'd be good enough? We've got a great chance.

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  15. IAmTheWalrus
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    Half time - Full time
    Arsenal - Barcelona

    20/1

    how bad!

    Ht - Ft
    Draw - arsenal

    15/2

    not bad either

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  16. Granville
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    Assists

    1 Ryan Giggs 95
    2 Frank Lampard 83
    3 Francesc Fabregas 76
    4 Steven Gerrard 76
    5 Thierry Henry 67
    6 Wayne Rooney 66
    7 Steed Malbranque 53
    8 Nicolas Anelka 52
    9 Didier Drogba 52
    10 Gareth Barry 51
    11 James Milner 48
    12 Ashley Young 48
    13 Peter Crouch 47
    14 Danny Murphy 46
    15 Morten Gamst Pedersen 45
    16 Dennis Bergkamp 43
    17 Kevin Davies 43
    18 Nolberto Solano 42
    19 Dimitar Berbatov 41
    20 Cristiano Ronaldo 39

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    1. Boom!!!
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      😯 fab 76 assists already.

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      1. Hank
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        Already? He's played for about 8 years..

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        1. jamsiep
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          Get a grip. He's 23 for f*cks sake!

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          1. Hank
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            7 years. Almost.

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            1. jamsiep
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              He's 23, and he nearly has as many assists as someone who's played in every PL season for the most successful side.... You should give him more credit.

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              1. Hank
                • 14 Years
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                I watched the german kid the papers linked us with today on the magic of youtube.. the first thing i thought was he moves exactly like Fabregas.

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                1. njfsdkffslkf
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                  So you didnt rate him so after that viewing yes?

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                2. Hank
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                  Wow that sentence makes no sense. Well done me.

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              2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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                Giggs often gets rested against the easier opponets. Fabs loves it when the heavy roller's been on...

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                1. njfsdkffslkf
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                  Not for the first 13 years he didnt. 😉

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                  1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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                    True. I suppose Kanchelskis and Beckham put in more / better crosses than Giggs (his delivery in the earlier years wasn't the best.)

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    2. jamsiep
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      That can't be right. In the last how many years is that?

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      1. Granville
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        Start of the premier league in '92

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        1. jamsiep
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          Really?! So Giggs has 95 assists in about 19 years.... 5 a season?!

          If so, OVERRATED!!! 😆

          All those players are still playing, so I very much doubt those numbers are since '92.

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          1. Boom!!!
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            just 33 assists for scholesy 😯

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          2. Granville
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            All the stats are taken from the official site. If you don't believe them to be true, take it up with them.

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            1. The Stock
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              The Official Bonus Point Judges site?

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            2. Attila the Bum
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              Suprised Ferdinand isn't on there, he got about 31 assists one season with us.

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          3. Marknlard
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            First player I wikipedia-ed was Pires, and he is apparently on 43 league assists for Arsenal. So they do seem a bit dodgy.

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    3. Hank
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      *Sir Ryan Giggs

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    4. Soop
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      considering his age, that's great going for Fabregas. Also, not sure how long he was in the PL, but Ronaldo is doing well for someone who scored so much.

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    5. The Stock
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      You've got that wrong - Bernardo Corradi isn't on there...?

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      1. merts
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        😆

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    6. Namtab Nomolos
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      Kevin Davies is fighting on too many fronts, he should stick to fouls and building up his cards.

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      1. The Stock
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        he he

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        Davies has been the most fouled player over the past few seasons as well. He gets involved, you've got to give him that. He's one of my favourite current PL players.

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    7. Gargamel
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      How can Giggs not have more than that? Hideously low for a mainstay winger in the best team during that period.

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      1. Gargamel
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        Credit to Steed Malbranque too. 7th most assists without playing for a top 4 club. Impressive.

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        1. Gargamel
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          According to ESPN Soccernet which is usually great for stats Ryan Giggs have 77 assists and their stats only go back to 01/02. Surely he has to have more than 18 before that season.

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      2. Boom!!!
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        i don't think these stats are correct tbh ...how can bendtner have 11 assists 🙂

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  17. Baletelli
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    ATTN: Norwich City

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugq2YvQZupk

    Hopefully it's not a late pass.

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  18. Chris Finch - squeal piggy …
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    Thinking I should have got Meireles for this gameweek and waited til next week to get Cahill. Drat.

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  19. Rossaldinho
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    • 16 Years
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    There was an interesting article from Martin Keown in today's Daily Mail - he usually has good insight. Here's the link

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1357376/Martin-Keowns-lowdown-brilliant-Barcelona.html

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  20. Marknlard
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    Gargamel if you're about, just responding to this post:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/02/16/tuesday-scout-notes-gameweek-twenty-seven/comment-page-2/#comment-1398432

    I see what you're saying (free market and all that, everyone should have the chance in theory to watch any game they like), but it's not really forcing people to watch lower quality football. If they don't want to go, they don't have to. But it would affect the fans who currently do decide to go, the floating fans who pay on the day. There'd be fewer of them going to games (and consequently fewer becoming season ticket holders, as that's how we all start off), so less income and you can fill in the rest.

    There's not many things you can say this about in the UK, but the English league system IS the best in the world as no one else has 5 divisions of mainly full-time pro clubs. In time, I'm sure all Prem games will be available to view legally, and that'll be the beginning of the end of the majority of clubs in their fulltime state. That'll be sad. I can see how it seems odd to foreign eyes, but it genuinely has to be this way.

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    1. gooner dave
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      Good post, and thanks for the link to previous discussion (as I missed it).
      Been living in Germany the past 10 years or so, and have most "big games" live from the premierleague, actually comes free with sky sports germany, as obviously the big seller here is the bundesliga.

      More interestingly the Germans have recently started showing more fa cup games live on free to air channels

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      1. Marknlard
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        What's the situation with German TV showing Bundesliga matches?

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        1. gooner dave
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          All live. Just pick and choose, offered by sky Germany or telekom. However it costs extra (i forget how much)

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          1. Marknlard
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            And yet Bundesliga still has good attendances, at the top division anyway. I've only been to one BL match (and this wasn't my experience) but I guess the cheaper ticket prices help in encouraging fans to still go to matches.

            And (guessing here, but tying back to the original discussion), there's no equivalents of Bradford City with 10k+ attendances in the fourth tier. Would be a shame to lose that kind of thing here.

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            1. gooner dave
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              Without a doubt the Germans run the bundesliga well, however your right there isn't the size and depth of the uk at all.

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            2. njfsdkffslkf
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              But with the cheap tickets and as we were saying below far less teams in Germany it means they can still have the highest attendances (i remember they were a few years ago) while still showing all the games live

              Guess England can never do this with all the smaller teams seeking the every so often fans in local area.

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              1. njfsdkffslkf
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                that should be far less professional teams in germany* They prob would have as many if not more given the size.

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                1. gooner dave
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                  True, but I agree with marknlard, the tradition is strong in the uk. And it would be a shame for the lower league teams to "go to the wall".

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                  1. njfsdkffslkf
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                    I wouldnt advocate them going to wall. Just not being professional in the lower leagues

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          2. Retro
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            Hey GD, my better half is from Germany. Where are you living? Somewhere nice?

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            1. gooner dave
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              Near Stuttgart.

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              1. Retro
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                Hmmm. My stomping ground would be the lovely Black Forest. Not too far I think...

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          3. gooner dave
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            Just looked @€16 per month for all bundeliga 1+2 games live. Which is pretty good.

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            1. Rasping Drive
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              Been out of the UK since 93, mostly Istanbul which is where I live now. Until last year we used to get 3 EPL games on both Saturday and Sunday and it only used to cost 2 quid a month. Now they have cottoned on and we get the same number of games but have to pay 40 quid a month. Swines!

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              1. gooner dave
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                Same here in a way. Sky was formerly premiere, sports channels €10. Sky buy premiere= price trebled and have channels I'm not even interested in to boot, just in order to get the football.

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    2. njfsdkffslkf
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      Im sure this is not relevant to the tv debate ye were having but isnt it an idea that England/ UK cut back on having 4 professional leagues. I dont see the need for it from a footballing point of view to have them all in league 2 or some in the conference fully professional, the standard is bad enough but then there is the constant threat of administration and liquidation hanging over so many clubs and but for some loyal fans giving alot of money outside of whats normal they wouldnt survive.

      Surely it should be semi - pro below the championship. I actually think it would help improve overall level of football of players coming up as the competition would be increased with less professional teams.

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      1. Marknlard
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        Strangely enough, while pro league clubs have been really starting to struggle, more Conference sides have been turning fully pro. I guess they're just better run that they're able to do that, so perhaps over time those clubs will become more established, while the current strugglers slowly disappear.

        I think there's a good argument for the bottom two divisions at least to become regionalised first rather than semi-pro. Then there's less travelling costs (no more Exeter to Darlingon, so that'd be a step towards helping them out.

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
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          Ya regionalising them is a good shout. I dont see the need for them to be professional.
          Perhaps its just out of pride but it certainly isnt sustainable under the current model with so many teams in a country size of england.

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          1. Marknlard
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            It's lucky that so few have gone out of business so far. More a testament to the strength of the local communities than any fiscal know-how.

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
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              Yep agreed.

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    3. Gargamel
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      Hi MNL. Was away, just popped in.

      Interesting post and a good discussion overall. I see your points and tbh I had not considered those when I wrote my original posts. I guess there is no need to fix what isn't broken, but I can't help but come back to the feeling that everybody should have the opportunity to watch the best football.

      The Bundesliga seems to be an example of what I think is a good way of solving things, with cheaper tickets to keep up attendances and still the opportunity for everyone to watch all games. I'm not saying everybody can afford 15 quid a month for football on TV here, but most adults will be able to.

      The Bundesliga is also the most economically stable league of all the top leagues, but that is of course down to a variety of factors.

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      1. Marknlard
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        Yeah, I do like the Bundesliga way of doing things, particularly the ownership restrictions. The league isn't as lopsided as it is here- the recent story of Wolfsburg is brilliant.

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  21. Big Bad Barry
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    Anybody know why the arsenal game is on not Coventry?

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    1. Marknlard
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      Is this a serious question?! Coventry aren't even playing...

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  22. merts
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    can anyone tell me why i got rid of djourou for huth? i have forgotten. i'm sure i didn't play djourou 😕

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Knee-jerk? Prejudiced against people with really long necks and rubbery faces?

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      1. merts
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        lolz 😛

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  23. 5teve8ould
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    Are the paddypower specials, such as Arsenal @ 6s to win tonight, always £10 max stake?

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    1. DublinDude
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      Did you just make up that special or is that their latest one??

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  24. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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    If fantasy premier league game was not their what you would have done ?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      wtf?

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  25. ArcticJunkie
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    Is Berba worth keeping against Wigan? or is he too much of a risk of not starting?

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      Keep him. He'll play.

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    2. IAmTheWalrus
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      there is no risk!

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  26. A.T
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    waybuloo is about to start if anyones interested

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    1. IAmTheWalrus
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      the wha?

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    2. J0E
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      Watching it as I type with my youngest.

      This and In The Night Garden are better than drugs!

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  27. Freshy
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    After watching TOTTS v ACM replay one thought springs to mind.
    Cappello needs to play Lennon on one side and Wallcott on the other.
    Give the opposing gaffer a real headache.

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    1. Dino
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      Your kidding right?

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      1. Boom!!!
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        😆 are u serious?

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  28. Boom!!!
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    NEW POST!

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  29. Attila the Bum
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    New Poooooooooooost.

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  30. johnbobman
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    What would you recommend as a better lay out for my team? Currently got 1 WC left (I think).

    Hart (Kingson)
    A Cole, Huth, Vidic (Bardsley, Foley)
    Nani, Adam, Dempsey, Meireles(N’Zogbia)
    Berbatov, Odemwingie, Gyan

    I heard that its best to go for cheaper defenders, so I’m tempted to use my wildcard to swap my team around. I also have £1.1 m to spend. I was thinking of getting RVP after this next Game Week, since arsenal won’t be playing, Possibly instead of berbatov who didn’t even start the last game

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