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6 July 2012 1527 comments
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It says a lot about Robert Huth’s previous performances that the Stoke City defender started last season’s Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game with the same price tag as Vincent Kompany. Granted, the City skipper had been classified as a midfielder beforehand but Huth’s outstanding attacking returns were enough to see him slapped with a 6.0 valuation as the campaign kicked off last August:

The former Chelsea man seemed to discover a keen eye for goal in 2010/11, finding the net six times in addition to providing a trio of assists. Huth’s offensive exploits, teamed with his resilience at the back, helped harvest 14 bonus points and racked up eight clean sheets for the Potters – in total, he returned 138 points, eclipsing central defensive partner Ryan Shawcross’ haul of 98 by some distance.

The big German suffered from Tony Pulis’ tinkering last time out, though. While Huth missed just four of the Potters’ league games, only 22 of his 31 starts came in his natural position at centre-half, with the Stoke boss fielding him as a full-back on nine occasions. Out wide, Huth looked ill-at-ease and notched just three times in 2011/12, with only one goal in the first 31 Gameweeks of the campaign. A single assist and eight bonus points, in addition to seven clean sheets, boosted his tally to 101 but Shawcross proved far greater value in Pulis’ backline, returning 118 points from a starting price of 5.0.

The Prospects

Ideally for Fantasy managers, a permanent berth at centre-back is the perfect scenario – at the very least, this would afford Huth a better chance to rack up the blocks than the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index favours so much. Many of his appearances at right-back were down to Andy Wilkinson’s injury-plagued campaign, though with Ryan Shotton now establishing himself as a regular in the first-team squad, Pulis has a more natural alternative as cover. Last summer, the Stoke boss snapped up both Jonathan Woodgate and Matthew Upson with one eye on the club’s European exploits but this term the Potters have no such diversions; with less need for chopping and changing required, Huth could once again forge a partnership with Shawcross at the back.

A drop in price seems on the cards across the Fantasy games. Huth had never been dearer than 5.0 beforehand in FPL and if his cost returns to that same level, he is likely to afford Fantasy managers a decent mid-price option at the back and will be favoured by many over Shawcross. Looking at the statistics, Huth still offered plenty offensive potential last time round. Only Pulis’ first-choice front two, Peter Crouch and Jon Walters, averaged more efforts per game than the German – for a side with just 36 goals (the lowest in the Premier League) his set-piece threat is ever-crucial and vital to his Fantasy potential.

With six of those eight clean sheets coming in front of their own fans last time out, Pulis’ backline clearly offers greater potential at home but the opening fixture list has done them little favour. The Potters have just three home matches in the first eight Gameweeks, with Arsenal, City and Swansea all rolling up to the Britannia. Visits to Chelsea, Liverpool and United are also all on the agenda in the first couple of months, suggesting that Fantasy managers are likely to steer clear of Huth until Stoke’s shocking schedule takes a turn for the better.

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  1. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Liverpool's interest in Sturridge is interesting - They offer higher wages, and a better chance of starting compared to Tottenham. But he already has a good relationship with AVB, and the team is much likelier to do better than Liverpool.

    Where do you guys think he will go?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      id only want him if he was bought as an out an out striker

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    2. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he will stay, at least until chelsea sign a new striker
      they do not have enough cover on the wings
      hazard will most likely play in the middle
      mata will remain there
      but the problem is marin. the guy has the body of a teenager (at that was in germany) i expect him to get injurerd quite often
      malouda is becoming more and more useless
      so imo sturridge should remain in chelsea

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    3. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Interesting one that. Like you said, the relationship he had with AVB could sway him towards Spurs, afterall he started most games under him at Chelsea.

      Is the wage difference much, do you know?

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      1. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        id say he has less chance of a start at spurs though now than he did at chelsea

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    4. Elniñorules
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      AVB loves Studge (solely a one-way affair tho), but sadly Studge might not be too keen if he isn't promised starts from the off.

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    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sorry for delay - replied to your previous! 🙂

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  2. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    So when is FPL going to open up? I remember last season someone had all the dates it had opened for the past 5 years. I recall the average being something like the 18th July although last year it was quite late.
    Any ideas?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i reckon on the 16th

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    2. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sometime before the 20th i think is what is expected.

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    3. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      We had this discussion at some point yesterday - the mean is the 10th, the median is the 8th, there was no mode 🙂

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
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        😀

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    4. Evs
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      The later they leave it the happier ill be to be honest. . .

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      1. big oak
        • 15 Years
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        agree i can take 10 days of RMTs but not a whole months tbh

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  3. big oak
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    im sorry if this was mentioned before but why does chelsea and reading have a DGW on week one???

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      World club comp gw3 I believe.

      Note the blank.

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      1. big oak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        didnt this used to take place sometime in december/january?

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        1. Sarnab
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah

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      2. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Super Cup, Evs.

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        1. Evs
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Aye, that's the think I meant.

          Nonsense.

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      UEFA Super Cup.
      GW 3 blank.

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      1. big oak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        ahhh ok thank you

        this will be very annoying you know
        gw1 everybody's capt will be a chelsea player

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    3. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Because of the Chelsea's Super Cup fixture.

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    4. QPR expects... glory!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      UEFA Super Cup game on 31/8 v Atletico Madrid

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    5. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Super Cup

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  4. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Loving the Sleepers so far...they'll definitely form a good chunk of my gw1 team.

    How about the Risers? How do you think the high FPL scorers of last season will perform this season?

    Rooney/Evans/Valencia?
    Kun/Silva?
    RVP/Walc?
    Jelly/Pienaar/Baines?
    PCisse/Barfa?
    Siggy/Ade/Bale/Walker?
    etc...

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The only ones I can't see performing there are RVP (he's leaving), Walcott, Cisse (not as good as last season) and Barfa.

      All the rest should still perform as well as last season if not better IMO, but you will have to pay big for them.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Fair thoughts.

        Surely the season will be more unpredictable - Cue: none of these players end up on the Top 10 FPL list this year 😉

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    2. King Nemanja
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      United trio I think will all perform very well. Evans might see limited gametime, however. I expect Tony V to have a great season, but think he will be quite pricey. I'm still planning to have him from the start, though.

      The City boys will also continue to score well, don't think I'll consider Silva from the start as I'm expecting a bit of a price rise. Aguero at 12m or so will be in many teams, no doubt.

      RVP to leave, Walcott to take a bit of time adjusting to the new strikers etc imo.

      Jelly and Pienaar could be good value picks, Pienaar especially. Jelly might be a bit overpriced I fear, we'll see. Baines too will be a bit pricey to take a punt on, given Everton's famous slow start to a season. They do have nice opening fixtures though.

      Cisse won't be as good as last season imo, and will be quite expensive i'd say. Barfa could be a good pick, depending on price of course. He really showed his quality at times last season.

      As for Spurs, who knows with a new manager, players and formation. Hopefully Siggy won't be too expensive. Where as I feel the Spurs defenders are going to be overpriced.

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    1. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      the guy just broke through into the italy euro cup squad and is unlikely to return to england
      however the player is a very very good finisher but dst offer much else

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    2. Dom Salahnke
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Never heard of him..

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    3. sukrut23
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he has already signed for Roma.

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  5. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    To the QPR guys around, who will be Fabio's competition at LB?

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    1. QPR expects... glory!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Traore

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      1. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hasn't his loan deal expired and returned back to Milan?

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          That's Taiwo.

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        2. Demí
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          That's Taiwo

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        3. QPR expects... glory!
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          That's Taiwo!

          We bought Traore from Arsenal end of August '11 transfer window

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  6. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Barton twits:

    "We have done some great business this summer and with @alefaurlin recovering from injury, should be exciting tomes ahead."

    1) More than half the excitement to come from Joey himself?
    2) But the man's got a point eh? They've got the quality to find their way out of the relegation zone.

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  7. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Last year was the first year that I went for rotating defenders, so I can't really remember what it was like in previous years. Last year it was a great tactic, because newcastle and swansea defenders were so cheap. If you take these teams out of their equation, as they will be too expensive to rotate (I would say 4.5m is the maximum I would pay for a rotator) then will it work this season? Pretty much all of the other rotating options for last season were not nailed on. I don't mind one of my 3 rotators being a risk, but not 3 of them!!

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      For the record....

      I like to have 2 at the big clubs, and then 3 rotating cheapies.

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        But if you couldn't have picked toon or swansea defenders, which 3 would you have gone for?

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    2. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Would a valid tactic be 1 x expensive defender, 3 x rotators (up to 5.5m), 1 x bench sitter (4m). Rather than the popular 2 x expensive + 3 x rotating (up to 4.5m) approach?

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        5 uber cheaps at the back for me, I think.

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        1. China Mag
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          So a mix of promoted defenders and not nailed on players? Doesn't sound like a very good recipe for points to me 😉

          I'm only playing devils advocate here. I was all for rotation last season, and hope to be this season, but i'm just not sure we are going to have the luxury of cheap defenders with decent clean sheet potential. I hope that I am wrong. I guess we will have to wait to see the prices! I'm not going to do any more rotation analysis until we know more anyway!!

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            People said the exact same thing last season..

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            1. China Mag
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Can you remember the season before? Were there solid cheap rotating options? I can't remember that far back! Welcome back Jack. Had a good summer?

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    3. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i always like to have 1 defender from fulham and stoke and play them only at home
      last season they were too expensive so had to settle for a swansea defender
      however it is unlikley that ill opt for swansea this season as i think rodgers departure will be very damaging

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        .... And will they have Caulkers services?

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        1. big oak
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          exactly
          which means that for now, it is monk who is in their 11, who is likely to come at 4.0 or 4.5 with aerial presence so might be tempted

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    4. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Think you'll always have a good market of uber cheaps. Everyone was skeptical last season as well - having Swa/New defenders was looked down upon and thought they wouldn't sustain their CS. But boy they proved everyone wrong.

      I definitely am a fan of starting the season with uber-cheaps and big guns upfront.

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Cheap newcastle defenders was a major f&ck up from fpl towers. We kept loads of clean sheets the season before. Has a promoted team ever kept as many clean sheets as Swansea? I fear that was a one off? Of course you will always find uber cheaps, but i reckon it will be very difficult to pinpoint them at the start of the season. Another reason why I might WC GW3, as the good cheapies will be a lot clearer.

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Think Sto/Avl/Wba are fairly predictable year-after-year with their defence.

          Wouldn't be surprised to see Qpr remain solid at the back @ home & the Hammers joining the cheaps party.

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          1. QPR expects... glory!
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Dunno so much about Avl. They were shaky all year and Lambert's approach is more about scoring goals than shutting teams down. Think Reading rather than West Ham will join the cheapies party.

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          2. China Mag
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            But the only stk defenders who were cheap enough to rotate were wilkinson and shotton, and neither were nailed on. I've got more eye on playing a QPR defender for home games. But would want to see how west ham start before buying any of their defenders.

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Agree you'll have to wait to see how most teams perform in early season but mind you - you can never go by performance in the first 2-3 games as well.

              There are certain teams which pick up momentum only after 3-4 weeks and few others who tend to start strongly but they ooze inconsistency after that.

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    5. QPR expects... glory!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Agreed. Think I'm going for 2 in the £6-£6.5m bracket who play every week for good teams and 3 rotators. Never intentionally played more than 3 def's last year anyway but might stretch to £5.5m for one rotator if they have goalscoring potential and are nailed on rather than a punt! Two defo barrel scraping though, preferably of the £4m variety!

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  8. Derailed Bandwagon
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Park could be a good addition to QPR's midfield.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18750029

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    1. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he will be good for them but overpriced for us

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  9. big oak
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    the best bargain hunting this season will come from aston villa
    they were so awful last season that all their player will depreciate badly
    im waiting for it
    given at 4.5?
    bent at 8?
    nzog at 6.5?
    dunne at 4.5 or 5?
    id take them

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Agree. Keep a close watch on Clark's classification as well. Lambert's CMs tend to be pretty effective.

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    2. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I was just thinking we are due a sleeping article on Bent, I would definitely get him if he was 8, a natural goal scorer.

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    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Won't be jumping on the Villa defence until I see what effect Lambert has had - Norwich weren't exactly tight at the back last season.

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    4. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ireland?

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'll definitely be keeping a beady eye on him, just have to be wary of Lambert's rotation policy I suppose.

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      2. big oak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        i still pride myself that i had him for that one season in manchester city since day 1

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  10. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like Vertonghen to Spurs is done. I will definitely be giving him serious consideration. He could be an absolute gem. A cheaper Vermaelen.

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    1. QPR expects... glory!
      • 14 Years
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      Not to mention a possible OOP 😉

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      1. Art Vandelay
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep, that is a possibility.

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      2. Sarnab
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        don't think he'll be an OOP.. But nevertheless he likes to get forward. High Scoring potential.

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      3. Mak_Gold
          13 years, 5 months ago

          +1

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      4. Sarnab
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah.. What do u think about Spurs back 4.

        Who will play alongside Vertonghen ?? Kaboul,Dawson or that King ??

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        1. big oak
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          king retired as far as i know
          it will be kaboul who has more pace than dawson...
          u know avb and high defensive lines

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        2. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Kaboul will play alongside Vertonghen IMO. King has retired, as I understand.

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      5. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Wouldn't expect him to be much cheaper though - Spurs defenders will have gone up in price from last season and it's no secret Vertonghen likes to get forward. Can't see him being more than 0.5 less than Vermaelen personally.

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I reckon he will be 6-6.5 but you may well be right.

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            That's probably fair actually, there's bound to be some surprises in the pricing which will have people raging though!

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      6. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I might be having both

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    2. Sarnab
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hearing Moutinho is linked to United. Would be a great signing. Will fit in perfectly alongside Carrick.

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Will be very useful in the Champions League. He's got Some Legs does't he.

        What would be Uniteds line up vs the big teams?

        --------------Moutinho------------
        ----Carrick--------------Clevs---
        ---------------Kagawa-------------
        -----Welbeck--------Rooney---

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        1. big oak
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          4-2-3-1
          carrick cleverley
          kagawa rooney young
          welbeck

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          1. Sarnab
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            where is our new no.7 ?

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            1. big oak
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              bench

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          2. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            If Moutinho does come in, He will start in those big games, me thinks.

            Alternatively, it could be Carrick + Moutinho

            With Rooney Behind Welbs and Kagawa and Valencia on the wings (considering they are better when it comes to helping out the defense)

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        2. Sarnab
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Diamond ?? 😉 Don't think so. With Quality wingers like Nani, Young, Val in the squad don't think SAF will play a diamond.

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Yes, quality wingers agree, but fergie might play only one conventional winger and Kagawa on the other side with Rooney upfront and 3 Ball players in CL games.

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    3. big oak
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i cnt understand how blackburn are still keeping some of their player:
      hoilett is a free agent but blackburn will be due compensation
      nzonzi is one of the best young DM in the league and will definitly be a handful for any team
      grant hanley is a good young big CB with aireal presence that could easily fit as a 3rd or 4th CB in any team

      i mean the team is relegated with excellent yuong players and an awful manager and still nthn is heard about them anywhere

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Rumours about Hoilett to QPR.

        Could be this seasons Swansea.

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      2. Derailed Bandwagon
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        They've also signed Nuno Gomes and Leon Best. They should walk the championship next season but with Kean as manager, it looks unlikely. Although I wouldn't be supprised if he turned it around.

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        1. big oak
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i would

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      3. Sarnab
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Nzonzi is DeJong no.2

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      4. Portsmouth Bubblejet
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hoilett could have moved to Germany months ago, but made himself hugely unpopular in the Bundesliga with his high wage demands.

        He was all set to join Borussia Mönchengladbach from about the end of April onwards, but Hoilett and his father demanded a salary of €3 million, whereas Gladbach's top earner is currently only on €2.1 million. And if you consider that a player such as Marco Reus was earning less than that at Gladbach, you can see why they're unwilling to exceed the club's salary limit.

        If he sticks to his wage demands, Hoilett's relatively low profile internationally means that his only options will be Turkey (where there has been some interest) or England (Sunderland have made enquiries).

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    4. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      What were the best and worst transfers you made last season??

      My best was: Taiwo OUT Evans IN - In that gamweek Evans scored his first ever goal and got another clean sheet, and the next gameweek he picked up an assist and cleansheet.

      My worst was: Adebayor OUT Yakubu IN - The yak then went on to get sent off in the 1st half.

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    5. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      New Post.

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