With Gameweek 1 concluded, itβs time to delve a little deeper into the data in our first “Big Numbers” article for members of the campaign. We analyse the display of Arsenalβs new wide man against Palace, the QPR front pairing at home to Hull, Liverpoolβs ever-improving youngster, Southamptonβs delivery under Ronald Koeman and Unitedβs weekend scorer in the 2-1 home loss to Swansea.
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Why Didn't Sigurdsson Rise?
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Potential changes to the price rules. FPL towers tinker with them every season but once in a while there's a significant change. My guess is they've reverted to a similar system last used for 2011/12, where a player needs 2xNTI target for the second rise in a week.
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I would have said it favours the more careful player, not worrying about a 0.3 rise in a single gameweek is a great change for me! π
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http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/crack-the-code-2011-12-the-fiso-guide-to-fpl-price-changes-t86917.html
Here is a thread that discusses the old rules. If we're back to this then it means more changes on a Saturday night. Those who play the price game will have to take a few early risks, especially if they're bringing in players who have still to play on Sunday.Open Controls-
CHeers mate but I am still a little confused. Would you mind explaining how things are working now?
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If the first rise needed 50,000 NTI, would the second rise need 100,000NTI and the third 200,000?
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150k for the third (it very rarely gets to this) - but you've got the gist of it.
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yes, but its reset after each rise, so extra transfers in after the target is reached aren't counted until the price update is done.
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Does this mean that we are less likely to see a .3 rise on Cesc this week now? Bang goes my theory if so
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Yep. There will be no 0.5 swing with the Mata to Cesc transfer as was mooted on here yesterday.
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so it is unlikely we will see a 0.3M rise in a week now?
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It'll still happen but be few and far between. Siggy could still do it this week, as chances are he'll go up tonight so will have Thursday and the Friday rush to get to 3xNTI target.
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Yeah I can see that. Well, that is annoying. Lamela and Mata out for Fab and Sterling to play the prices this week. Ouch.
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Two major changes.
It kind of dilutes the early wildcard to increase team value idea. It doesn't blow it out of the water completely, it just means the old 0.3 risers will only rise 0.2.
But the big one for me is that it means the most popular day for price rises is Saturday night. This will annoy those who like to wait until Friday before making changes in case of injury.Open Controls-
As in more on Saturday because people will have to work harder to catch rises? So will make the move earlier?
I like the fact prices will be less volatile personally. π I promised myself I wouldn't twitch so much on transfers, so if the Mata/Cesc difference is watered down, that'd be good! π Thanks for the explanation.Open Controls-
I'll try to explain the Saturday thing with an example. Fabregas had 50k NTI last night, hit the 50k target, and went up in price. Now his target for the next rise is 100k. Come Friday night he has 70k NTI, so doesn't quite make the second rise. On Saturday night it's a new gameweek so his target is back to 50k again. As his NTI is well over this, he goes up. A lot of players who won't hit their increased target on Friday will be in the same boat - so more rises on a Saturday than at any other time.
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Brilliant example Pasqualinho.
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Ty mate ..upvoted..
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doesn't this also mean that if we are patient enough to not trade on the saturday we are better of waiting until friday night to make our trades?
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In some cases. Still keep an eye on the price rise sites, though. They will tell you how patient you can be.
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Siggy price got up by 0.1 again. He is now listed as 6.2.
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It will also annoy those who like to wait till Monday before making changes.
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If you add a player's price rise during the previous game-week to his further price rise on the first day of the next one, the combined rise should be either the same as under the old system or 0.1 less.
Following this change, there should be less need to bring a transfer forward to the previous game-week, since all the players who would have risen by 0.2 during that previous game-week will now only rise by 0.1, and nearly all of those who would have risen by 0.3 will now only rise by 0.2.
But there will be a big temptation to make that transfer on the first day of the new game-week, because of the additional price rises that will now occur on that day.Open Controls
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Im not understanding what peoe are saying is dofferent this year from last year.....please could someone explain as everything thats been said is the same as last year as far as i can tell. Until its explained im simply putting it down to a different NTI value for increase than last year and the calculation used by both the main price changes websites having conditional formula that errors for the 1st double riser in a week as it uses previous double risers of that season as its benchmark for measuring future rises (pretty sure the same happened at start of last season)....happy to be proven otherwise tho.
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He is now listed as 6.2. π
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Hows my side for the weekend
Begovic
Phil Jones, Wisdom, Debuchy (Lovren bench)
Ramsey, Fabregas, Siggy, Silva (Henderson)
Rooney, Diego Costa (c), Bojan
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Like it. Although I'd fear another six points in total at the back.
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Yeah I fear that also . Just going to ride this week out Defensively.
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Hi Guys. I am starting late. Can you please help me make a good team.
I was thinking of
Begovic / Krul
Kompany Cahill Wisdom Chester Hutton
Fabregas Mata Siggurdson Prowse Arnie
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Begovic/Green.
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Its fine, long term i would look at Lovren to Clyne/Kelly and taking the cash. I started with Lovren and am wondering why now!
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Is it just me or the attacking players that sign from Serie A rarely become quality buys fpl wise. Of the top of my head Osvaldo, Gaston, Giaccherini, Balotelli etc. They had huge potential but never lived up to it in the Epl.
Could it be the same for Lamela and Jovetic?
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It's a really poor league now. Well behind the big three and arguably weaker than France.
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I think Gaston is great. Very underrated.
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Yes he was great in Seria A and a fantastic technical player but he has done nothing in Epl so far and has been overlooked consistently.
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Weaker than France?! Have you watched the level of tactical intelligence of Italian teams? Granted, the players are not at the level of 15 years ago, but it's still a great league.
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TBF Giaccherini never got much of game time because of injury or other reason..whenever he came he was good!
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But would you get him into your Fpl team? I'm saying Fpl wise. Even Balotelli, Gaston and Osvaldo are good players and they did produce every now and then but never fulfilled their potential.
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So my decision to get baines isn't looking as good now. Although on the flip side and saving a transfer, it's great to have the option to downgrade a defender for a lot of cash to catch a rising attacker
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Considering Arsenal's squad I'm surprised that Wenger is struggling. He needs to be more versatile tactically. The fact Sanchez and Ozil look average should concern him. He should try to use a formation to accommodate his best players.
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He still lacks a genuine tough-tackling DM of sufficient quality.
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and a better striker
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Why not play Sanchez striker and drop Giroud? He obviously fancies Giroud at ST since he hasn't bought another this window but splashed out on Sanchez.
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maybe we will see sanchez up front when walcott returns...until then I doubt it
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He has no balance. Caz and ozil were essentially playing same role last season and he needs to play flamini sitting with Ramsey breaking from deep. A front four of Alexis, ozil, theo and cazorla could then rotate in love barca false 9 system. Wenger isn't brave enough to do this. He wants to play like Barcelona but is obsessed with a big number 9 up top.
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ozil will come out guns blazing and sanchez has had 2 men on him in both games...when ozil and then walcott come back he will have more space...even then he still puts in a shift
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Walcott and Ramsey are Arsenal's best players IMO. Ozil and Sanchez are more talented though.
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yeah atm but ozil will shine this season, and sanchez will do the same given time
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Loic Remi doesn't appear to be listed on TFPL ??
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Which one has more chance of a CS this week:
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Forster, that is an expensive set of keepers!
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Is it possible to ask FPL about their price rising formula/policy or do you reckon they would ignore it?
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Btw...
1. Evs responded to you on your hot topic
2. I asked you a question...
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They would likely reply with some general nonsense like "player values fluctuate depending on their popularity in the fantasy premier league transfer market"
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Morning. Am guessing they would ignore it or send out a stock reply. Bit like they do when we ask when's FPL opening π
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It's a secret formula (algorithm) and each year they will change or tweak it to throw 'naughty' people trying to 'crack it' ahead of the changes.
Usually takes a few weeks for some sties to get their predictions right.
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Yes, but sites such as fiso etcettera can still be used as a rough guide early on
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Who to play?
A) Mannone (MUN)
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No players changed last night that were due on total FPL?
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Morning folks....
So i'll try today again, due to personal ptoblems(herniated neck) i have seen no games and would like help with performances by some players.
Soldado, he did get no minutes at all even though Tottenham ftom what i heard were not exactly on f6re forward. Why? Yes he was not the shining star last seadon but still managed over 100p i think, has Pochetino said anything specific?
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To be honest Eriksen was pretty lively and Im sure Lamela could have done better but when you have a sloth playing center forward, this is what you can expect.
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The sloth being Ade? I asked about Soldado's lack of gametime and why.
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Remy will only leave for an ECL team and he wants to stay in England. Arsenal wouldn't meet his wage demands, Liverpool pulled out, so that only leaves Chelsea and Man City.
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Thank you kindly for taking the time and clearing this up for md, i'll keep Remy then.
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Some can't read what's above.
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no he is suspended for the champions league, not the premier league
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Suspended for UCL only
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So whos prices are going up ?
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Charlie Austin. And by that I mean the price on his head.
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For all those who are transferring out Mata just because of price drops... well since when did 0.1 mil become more important than 1 FT? (2 FT if you plan on getting Mata back)
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Team keep mata. People are acting like he's injured or being dropped. He'll play 90 minutes in the next game and surely be better.
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Another day to consider whether to get on board with Siggy. My only possible transfers are Erikson and Mata neither if which I want to lose this gameweek
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If people just read a little first, rather than charging on with the same questions it would make life much easier.
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This. I saw the same question asked three times in one page yesterday. Come on people, the whole thing works better if you go back a bit and answer just few questions yourself first
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The people who get annoyed by repetition tend to be the ones who are on here for hours at a time. Not everyone has time to scroll through pages of chat in the hope that their question's been answered. Unless someone's asking something which will very obviously be widely discussed, if a question ends up appearing a couple of times on the same page that's just unlucky.
Also people like to get involved. If everything was only to be discussed once they'd use a more standard forum format.Open Controls
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If mata gets an assist, will the exodus stop? What about a goal?
Also, will the NTI reset? I.e. NTI this whole gameweek is 40+K. Will it go back to zero so it takes say 60+K for price to fall?Open Controls-
nti resets after the price change each day
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WHAT!! was expecting Siggy to rise and Naughton to fall π
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Hello Lads , sorry if this has been discussed but im an Aussie a bit out of the loop.
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Chester nailed on. Even if won't score again probably. Less so dier with vert coming back
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chester could work but I'm put off by the Europa league.. on Dier the general feeling is when vert is back he won't start.. I'm not sure though
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cheers.
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Can't believe the amount of people getting rid of Mata. Even with Moyes, Mata and Rooney did well. With these fixtures, Utd should be doing well. And they are playing an away game next!
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I think we've covered this point now. One guy in my league has used four points to, wait for it, swap mata for fab and Rooney for Costa. Just insanity. He couldn't understand my point that it wasn't as simple as those two outscoring the utd pair in a single game week. You've got to stand by your initial selection a little. And such a waste of transfers!!
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Loads of nice alternative midfield options and given Utd look like they may struggle again, whereas Chelsea are probably champions elect, the latter seems the better team to double up on with attacking players. Add to that the team value implications and it looks like a very sensible transfer to me.
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He already has haz as well
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My Ashley Young might survive another week before he drops.
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Indeed. I hope so. Although I will want to buy him back!
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Anyone know why Siggy didn't go up last night? Was at over 200% on totalfpl when I went to bed
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Will probably be asked a lot today - http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/19/the-big-numbers-gameweek-1-3/?hc_page=31#hc_comment_7989834
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Hazard (C)
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Had a dream last night PVA hit the post with a volley off his knew π
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What part of the body is that? Should've paid more attention in Biology.
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http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/5599/
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I'm making Mata captain just to crow so, so, so loud when he bags a brace.
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@Lucy
Watched the game on Sunday and thought you looked good but less impressed with the movement of newbie Pelle than the skills of Tadic. Which do you think will make the most impact over your first 10 games and how do you think Davis (who I have) will get on?Open Controls -
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Just seen the Ramsey sending off for his two yellows....shocking....
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shocking in what way? some have said it was poor from him, others have said it was poor from the ref...
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To me they are both yellows. The second foul was purely out of frustration.
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Yeah, but think of the pluses for us FPL Managers. No chance of his being injured in the return leg or tired after it π
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