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Dugout Discussion June 27

Dugout Discussion – Italy vs Spain

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The Round of 16 is concluded today with a couple more fixtures for Fantasy managers to consider.

First up at 5pm, Italy take on Spain for the right to meet Germany in the quarter-finals.

Both sides will be looking to bounce back from respective defeats to Republic of Ireland and Croatia in the final round of group matches.

Having swept aside Belgium and Sweden in their first couple of fixtures, Antonio Conte’s men will be confident of overcoming the defending champions, though will need to make do without the injured Antonio Candreva this afternoon.

The stats are somewhat in Spain’s favour for this one, though. Despite scoring just once more than The Azzurri so far, Vicente del Bosque’s side fired more than double the number of attempts on goal (51 to 25) and have allowed their opponents just 27 attempts on goal compared to Italy’s 34.

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  1. kapulasta
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Would consider giaccherini as striker after first half. HINT, HES DEFENDER

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  2. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Giachenneri can't get in the sunderland team ;))

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  3. Ayew Serious
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Reminder

    Giacherini is a Sunderland reject

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  4. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    DDG MOM so far

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Always same. I detest him I really do

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  5. Lynxy
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Any McDonald's assist expert can explain why that is a Giaccherini assist?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/matches/round=2000744/match=2018002/index.html

      That's why.

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    2. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I think it is an assist, don't have him though 🙁

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      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Nevertheless, odd to award this one but not KDB's one

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  6. andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Glaccherini (c) vs Germany?

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      nah

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    2. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Should I bring him in now even though he'll lose to Germany?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        People said the same thing about Spain 😉

        Could still happen of course.

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        1. Jazz!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah I know 😆 🙂

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    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      No brainer 🙂

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  7. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Giachanerri in your fpl team lads??

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  8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    did giach get the assist?

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      De Bruyne did

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    2. Lynxy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I think he chipped it to Chiellini somehow from the replay

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  9. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Who does Eder play form?

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    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Inter

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      1. Ayew Serious
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        On loan from Sampordia

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        1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Fair enough. Thought they'd signed him permanently tbh.

          Google skills on fleek?

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  10. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Would be amazed if Bruno doesn't come on in the second half.

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  11. VS10_
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Juanfran to Giaccherini will be an easy knee-jerk transfer.

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    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Until Spain win 😉

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      1. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        They have the quality, but need to change something quickly.

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        1. Jazz!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Indeed.

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  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Still pretty p!ssed off about this KDB assist not been given.

    Feel like they owe us an explanation at least. Did anyone send an email/ get a response.

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    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      🙁

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      1. Jazz!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I'm more annoyed at the fact how KDB didn't come out with a brace!

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Bro. Get laid.

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I do and yet still I'm 3 points down 😉

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Get those three sir 😉

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    3. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      🙂

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    4. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Pretty sure I saw someone post a response saying it was because it was a solo goal. Don't know if it was genuine...

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      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I wouldn't mind if that was the case if they were consistent with it but you know they won't be

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Hows our team doing Adam?

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          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            1304 overall . Giacherini , Juanfran and Nolitto (c) playing

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    5. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      sue McDonalds fantasy. people on here can back you up

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    6. Lynxy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      It was considered a "solo run" which is quite subjective tbh.

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    7. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/statistics/index.html

      KDB only has 2 assists for tournament.

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        No need to be pedantic TM, you know what I'm on about.

        I'm looking for a reason why they didn't accredit KDB with an assist for Hazard's goal last night when it was within all of their rules. I'm not looking for a number, I'm looking for a reason.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Solo run by Hazard is the reason. Had he scored within 5 metres from receiving the balls KDB would have got an assist. The action of passing 3 players going sideways ruled out the assists according to Uefa.

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          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored. This will also apply to set plays (i.e. corner, free kick, throw-in etc).

            In addition, an attempt which rebounds from the goal frame, the goalkeeper or a defender can be considered as an assist, if it leads directly to a goal.
            When a pass, shot or cross by an attacker contributes to an own goal, an assist can be awarded to the attacker.

            Only one player can be credited with an assist per goal scored.
            No assist is awarded to a player winning a penalty or a free-kick.
            No assist is given to a player who creates his own goalscoring opportunity (e.g. solo run/dribble)."

            Whatever about UEFA's official stance on assists is, the assist should be given within the confines of the fantasy game as nowhere does it state anything about what you are referring to. The final point above clearly refers to the goalscorer and mentions nothing about the player that passed it to him last. All that matters to me is

            "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored."

            It should be given

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Well if Uefa don't count it as an assist, it's silly to count it on their official fantasy game.

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              1. Bøwstring The Carp
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Even when their fantasy games states in the rules that it should be given?

                De Bruyne passed it to Hazard, Hazard scored. Assist.

                Says nothing in the rules about KDB not getting an assist because Hazard dribbled it past a few players. Only reference is that Hazard does not get an assist because he set up the goal.

                It's there in black and white and they should stick to it, considering they gave Weiss an assist for Hamsik's goal, etc.

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                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Look below at GWMs link.

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    8. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      FuzzyWarbles full steam ahead.

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    9. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I did but didn't have a response yet

      Someone else also got a response saying that it was a solo goal. Not very clear since it's not that he had 20 touches before he scored.

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    10. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Bowstring?

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/13496527

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Conflicting rules = shoddy game

        "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored."

        Disappointed they didn't do a better job and left it as a shambles (even with the classification of some players)

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Chiellini Triple C

    😎

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Chellini quadrauple captain here

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Wow kudos

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Liar

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I can prove it to you.

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    3. Lynxy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Lies! 😀

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  14. Eden Hazardous
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Only Morata, Pelle and Eder have had less touches than Busquets in the 1st half.

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Stat!

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  15. kamdaraji
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    anyone captain busquets?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah.

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    2. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Yep.. tipped him pre tournament for golden boot too

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Someone will have

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Sorry Epic that's your line

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Don't let it happen again.

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      2. kamdaraji
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        he will score a hatty send half. don't worry

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  16. Weeb Kakashi
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Hennesey DDG
    Walker Meunier Hector Taylor Jed
    Payet Perisic KDB Ramsey Lallana
    Bale Muller Lukaku

    Thriple Belgium, Quadruple Wales,No Ronaldo

    Wildcard needed for quarters??

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  17. Frank Black
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Does anybody believe the news about Arsenal making an official bid for Gabigol? ESPN Brazil said they offered a sum a bit lower than the release clause.
    If true, that would be phenomenal news, amazing talent and pretty much the only great striker Brazil has.

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    1. Jay_
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Bit too old now, was great at Fiorentina.

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        1. Frank Black
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          ???

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          1. Jay_
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Was a joke... Batigol.. GABriel Batistuta

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              1. Frank Black
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Ohhh, didn't think about Batigol.

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        2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          I was amazed they bid for Vardy . I believe anything is possible after that .

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        3. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Not really.

          The rumour has been around a while, and the quoted sum seems steep for someone from the Brazilian league.

          We're linked to every striker under the sun every window. 😆

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          1. Frank Black
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            No, the rumor from ESPN Brazil is 5 hours old actually. They say the offer doesn't match the release clause but is close.

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            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I mean Gabigol has been linked, by various sources, for a while.

              I've never seen ESPN be the ones to break any concrete news.

              Like Lacazette being linked again in the last few days. It comes in cycles.

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      • tm245
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Would love for Conte to bring Giaccherini with him to Chelsea.

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        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          No , thank you. 😉

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          1. tm245
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Please?

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        2. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          He's at Sunderland right?

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          1. tm245
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I can't figure it out -- last I heard he was but he didn't play much for them as they battled relegation. Confusing.

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            1. Frank Black
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              No, he's at Bologna on loan.

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              1. tm245
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks.

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        3. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          This is where people will say 'no, no!'. But he's done so well under Conte. And you rather have a 'lesser' player who fits the system than a big name who fails.

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      • kamdaraji
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        BBC pundits say England play same team against Russia and Wales but sturridge in place of lallana

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      • Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        So who has the best fixutres this season to start with?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Ticker >>>

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            i know i know but i'm asking what you guys think.

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Preseason and an article ftw.

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              1. Lateriser 12
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Amen. Who won last man standing this year?

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                1. Jazz!
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Me

                  Oh, thought you said whos gonna win it next year. My bad.

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                2. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/profiles/brett-dennen/

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        2. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fixtures

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        3. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Chelsea imo

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      • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        nolito fail

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      • Jay_
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Nolito off, 0 pointer

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        • Chelsea Clean Sheets Beckon
          goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Chelsea will have the best defence whilst Conte is there

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            not if cahill is there

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            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I think he'll look to sign 2 cb's.

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          2. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Italy always defend berb.

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            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Ay. That's also true.

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            2. Optimus.
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I have yet to see an Italian stick up for Berb

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              1. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                😆

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              2. Lateriser 12
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                😀

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          3. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Chelsea United Spurs i expect to be very solid

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            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Be intrigued to see who you sign in CM/DM. Personally think Schneiderlin-CM with Herrera in 10 is the way to go for you. But Rooney will play

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              1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Would simply love that, but yeah.... Rooney.

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              2. Jazz!
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah. I'd like to see Herrera develop in the #10 very much. Maybe Schniederlin Rooney in the double pivot ...

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                1. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  I'd much rather Rooney be booted out of the team.

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                2. goriuanx
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Rooney doesn't have the discipline to play in a 2 man Moureen midfield. Would lose the ball a lot with his Hollywood pass too

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                  1. Jazz!
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Of course but can't see Rooney not playing 🙁

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                    1. Jazz!
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      I hope KingNidge is right though (below)

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              3. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                All up in the air right now.. Rooney only hope these days is in the double pivot and we have better options and can invest in certainly better.. a weaker manager aka Moyes or LVG would shoe horn Rooney in.. Jose will not imo.. unless he is producing performances worthy of a spot.. Kroos rumoured to be an option and if Pogba goes to Madrid it's possible..

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                1. goriuanx
                  • 13 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Kroos only interested in City I heard

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                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Could be the case mate.. all will become a lot clearer within the next few weeks before clubs jet off on pre season tours

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                2. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  7 years, 10 months ago

                  Issue is they gave the keys to the club to Rooney years ago. He has gotten away with petulant behaviour, threatening to leave the club repeatedly unless he got more money under both Fergie and Moyes. When you think back to Fergie of old and how he dealt with players like that, Rooney should have been tossed out. He wasn't and has grown into a lazy sod who shows up entirely out of shape for the season with a first touch of a League 2 player. I'm certain he is being protected by higher ups at the club at this stage.

                  I really hope Mou drops him but I have absolutely no faith that that decision will be his to make. I hope I'm wrong, but for a long time I've sense that Wayne rules the roost at United.

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                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Rules the roost no more... Jose won't have any of that nonsense and wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't have total control over such issues after being constantly undermined by Roman at Chelski

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                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      7 years, 10 months ago

                      That is my hope. But when you look at someone like LVG who, though unpopular etc. he has a long history of falling out with players and dropping players. Then Rooney plays like an amateur, overweight player and still keeps his place?

                      The one thing I cling to is the likes of Giggs leaving the club signals that some control from the board is being relinquished. Will they let it extend to Rooney? I f**king pray for it.

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                      1. KingNidge
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 10 months ago

                        It's a pretty simple scenario for Rooney at this stage.. either accept that he is no longer guaranteed first 11 football week in week out or go back to Everton lol.. but seriously though there was a time Rooney could leave and go to another superpower club.. not a hope now.. he can still play a decent amount of games which i'm fine with but could and should be seeing a lot more bench time..

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                  2. goriuanx
                    • 13 Years
                    7 years, 10 months ago

                    Spot on

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          4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Wont have players schooled in this way.
            I'm sure they will be great in defence but players in Italy are extreme

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          5. Thomas M.
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            hope so, together with the best player in the league if he can play like he did yesturday

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            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Hazard is sensational

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              1. Thomas M.
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                he is 🙂

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          6. Däzzy
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            A chelsea defender and a man United defender both who you play every week plus three rotating defenders might be an interesting tactic. Both united and chelsea start the season with good fixtures.

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        • kamdaraji
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          anyone captain Nolito?

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          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah.

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        • kamdaraji
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Florenzi looks a player!

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          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I can confirm he is a player.

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        • kamdaraji
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Lots of card magnets in this game. Ramos, Bonucci, Chellini can all get firey and hot headed

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        • Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Any leaked England line up?

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        • @ocprodigy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          MORATA YOU TWIT!

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          1. kamdaraji
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Trollata

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        • GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Morata misses a sitter

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        • KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          brilliant

          http://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/northern-ireland-fans-helped-reunite-11531114#ICID=sharebar_twitter

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