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Dugout Discussion – Italy vs Spain

27 June 2016 756 comments
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The Round of 16 is concluded today with a couple more fixtures for Fantasy managers to consider.

First up at 5pm, Italy take on Spain for the right to meet Germany in the quarter-finals.

Both sides will be looking to bounce back from respective defeats to Republic of Ireland and Croatia in the final round of group matches.

Having swept aside Belgium and Sweden in their first couple of fixtures, Antonio Conte’s men will be confident of overcoming the defending champions, though will need to make do without the injured Antonio Candreva this afternoon.

The stats are somewhat in Spain’s favour for this one, though. Despite scoring just once more than The Azzurri so far, Vicente del Bosque’s side fired more than double the number of attempts on goal (51 to 25) and have allowed their opponents just 27 attempts on goal compared to Italy’s 34.

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  1. kapulasta
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Would consider giaccherini as striker after first half. HINT, HES DEFENDER

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  2. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Giachenneri can't get in the sunderland team ;))

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  3. Ayew Serious
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Reminder

    Giacherini is a Sunderland reject

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  4. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    DDG MOM so far

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Always same. I detest him I really do

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  5. Lynxy
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Any McDonald's assist expert can explain why that is a Giaccherini assist?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/matches/round=2000744/match=2018002/index.html

      That's why.

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    2. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I think it is an assist, don't have him though 🙁

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      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Nevertheless, odd to award this one but not KDB's one

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  6. andy85wsm
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Glaccherini (c) vs Germany?

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      nah

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    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Should I bring him in now even though he'll lose to Germany?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        People said the same thing about Spain 😉

        Could still happen of course.

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        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah I know 😆 🙂

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    3. GreenWindmill
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      No brainer 🙂

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  7. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Giachanerri in your fpl team lads??

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  8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    did giach get the assist?

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      De Bruyne did

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    2. Lynxy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I think he chipped it to Chiellini somehow from the replay

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  9. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Who does Eder play form?

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    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Inter

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      1. Ayew Serious
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        On loan from Sampordia

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        1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Fair enough. Thought they'd signed him permanently tbh.

          Google skills on fleek?

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  10. Wilshere Knowledge
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Would be amazed if Bruno doesn't come on in the second half.

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  11. VS10_
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Juanfran to Giaccherini will be an easy knee-jerk transfer.

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    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Until Spain win 😉

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      1. VS10_
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        They have the quality, but need to change something quickly.

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        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Indeed.

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  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Still pretty p!ssed off about this KDB assist not been given.

    Feel like they owe us an explanation at least. Did anyone send an email/ get a response.

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    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      🙁

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      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I'm more annoyed at the fact how KDB didn't come out with a brace!

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Bro. Get laid.

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I do and yet still I'm 3 points down 😉

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Get those three sir 😉

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    3. KingNidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      🙂

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    4. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Pretty sure I saw someone post a response saying it was because it was a solo goal. Don't know if it was genuine...

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      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I wouldn't mind if that was the case if they were consistent with it but you know they won't be

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Hows our team doing Adam?

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          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            1304 overall . Giacherini , Juanfran and Nolitto (c) playing

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    5. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      sue McDonalds fantasy. people on here can back you up

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    6. Lynxy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      It was considered a "solo run" which is quite subjective tbh.

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    7. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/statistics/index.html

      KDB only has 2 assists for tournament.

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        No need to be pedantic TM, you know what I'm on about.

        I'm looking for a reason why they didn't accredit KDB with an assist for Hazard's goal last night when it was within all of their rules. I'm not looking for a number, I'm looking for a reason.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Solo run by Hazard is the reason. Had he scored within 5 metres from receiving the balls KDB would have got an assist. The action of passing 3 players going sideways ruled out the assists according to Uefa.

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          1. Bøwstring The Carp
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored. This will also apply to set plays (i.e. corner, free kick, throw-in etc).

            In addition, an attempt which rebounds from the goal frame, the goalkeeper or a defender can be considered as an assist, if it leads directly to a goal.
            When a pass, shot or cross by an attacker contributes to an own goal, an assist can be awarded to the attacker.

            Only one player can be credited with an assist per goal scored.
            No assist is awarded to a player winning a penalty or a free-kick.
            No assist is given to a player who creates his own goalscoring opportunity (e.g. solo run/dribble)."

            Whatever about UEFA's official stance on assists is, the assist should be given within the confines of the fantasy game as nowhere does it state anything about what you are referring to. The final point above clearly refers to the goalscorer and mentions nothing about the player that passed it to him last. All that matters to me is

            "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored."

            It should be given

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 17 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Well if Uefa don't count it as an assist, it's silly to count it on their official fantasy game.

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              1. Bøwstring The Carp
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 2 months ago

                Even when their fantasy games states in the rules that it should be given?

                De Bruyne passed it to Hazard, Hazard scored. Assist.

                Says nothing in the rules about KDB not getting an assist because Hazard dribbled it past a few players. Only reference is that Hazard does not get an assist because he set up the goal.

                It's there in black and white and they should stick to it, considering they gave Weiss an assist for Hamsik's goal, etc.

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                1. TorresMagic™
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                  • 17 Years
                  10 years, 2 months ago

                  Look below at GWMs link.

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    8. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      FuzzyWarbles full steam ahead.

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    9. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I did but didn't have a response yet

      Someone else also got a response saying that it was a solo goal. Not very clear since it's not that he had 20 touches before he scored.

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    10. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Bowstring?

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/13496527

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Conflicting rules = shoddy game

        "A player will be credited with a goal assist when he delivers/plays the final pass, cross, header or shot which leads to the goal being scored."

        Disappointed they didn't do a better job and left it as a shambles (even with the classification of some players)

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Chiellini Triple C

    😎

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Chellini quadrauple captain here

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      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Wow kudos

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Liar

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I can prove it to you.

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    3. Lynxy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Lies! 😀

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  14. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Only Morata, Pelle and Eder have had less touches than Busquets in the 1st half.

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Stat!

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  15. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    anyone captain busquets?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah.

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    2. KingNidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yep.. tipped him pre tournament for golden boot too

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    3. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Someone will have

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      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Sorry Epic that's your line

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Don't let it happen again.

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      2. kamdaraji
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        he will score a hatty send half. don't worry

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  16. Weeb Kakashi
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Hennesey DDG
    Walker Meunier Hector Taylor Jed
    Payet Perisic KDB Ramsey Lallana
    Bale Muller Lukaku

    Thriple Belgium, Quadruple Wales,No Ronaldo

    Wildcard needed for quarters??

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  17. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Does anybody believe the news about Arsenal making an official bid for Gabigol? ESPN Brazil said they offered a sum a bit lower than the release clause.
    If true, that would be phenomenal news, amazing talent and pretty much the only great striker Brazil has.

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    1. Jay_
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Bit too old now, was great at Fiorentina.

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      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        ???

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        1. Jay_
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Was a joke... Batigol.. GABriel Batistuta

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          1. Frank Black
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Ohhh, didn't think about Batigol.

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    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I was amazed they bid for Vardy . I believe anything is possible after that .

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Not really.

      The rumour has been around a while, and the quoted sum seems steep for someone from the Brazilian league.

      We're linked to every striker under the sun every window. 😆

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      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        No, the rumor from ESPN Brazil is 5 hours old actually. They say the offer doesn't match the release clause but is close.

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        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          I mean Gabigol has been linked, by various sources, for a while.

          I've never seen ESPN be the ones to break any concrete news.

          Like Lacazette being linked again in the last few days. It comes in cycles.

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  18. tm245
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Would love for Conte to bring Giaccherini with him to Chelsea.

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    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      No , thank you. 😉

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Please?

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He's at Sunderland right?

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I can't figure it out -- last I heard he was but he didn't play much for them as they battled relegation. Confusing.

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        1. Frank Black
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          No, he's at Bologna on loan.

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          1. tm245
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks.

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    3. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      This is where people will say 'no, no!'. But he's done so well under Conte. And you rather have a 'lesser' player who fits the system than a big name who fails.

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  19. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    BBC pundits say England play same team against Russia and Wales but sturridge in place of lallana

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  20. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    So who has the best fixutres this season to start with?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ticker >>>

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        i know i know but i'm asking what you guys think.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 17 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Preseason and an article ftw.

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Amen. Who won last man standing this year?

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            1. Jazz!
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Me

              Oh, thought you said whos gonna win it next year. My bad.

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            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 17 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/profiles/brett-dennen/

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    2. KingNidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fixtures

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    3. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Chelsea imo

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  21. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    nolito fail

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  22. Jay_
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Nolito off, 0 pointer

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  23. Chelsea Clean Sheets Beckon
    Davido989
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Chelsea will have the best defence whilst Conte is there

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      not if cahill is there

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      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I think he'll look to sign 2 cb's.

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    2. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Italy always defend berb.

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      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Ay. That's also true.

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      2. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I have yet to see an Italian stick up for Berb

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        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          😆

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        2. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          😀

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    3. KingNidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Chelsea United Spurs i expect to be very solid

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      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Be intrigued to see who you sign in CM/DM. Personally think Schneiderlin-CM with Herrera in 10 is the way to go for you. But Rooney will play

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        1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Would simply love that, but yeah.... Rooney.

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        2. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah. I'd like to see Herrera develop in the #10 very much. Maybe Schniederlin Rooney in the double pivot ...

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            I'd much rather Rooney be booted out of the team.

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          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Rooney doesn't have the discipline to play in a 2 man Moureen midfield. Would lose the ball a lot with his Hollywood pass too

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            1. Jazz!
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Of course but can't see Rooney not playing 🙁

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              1. Jazz!
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 1 month ago

                I hope KingNidge is right though (below)

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        3. KingNidge
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          All up in the air right now.. Rooney only hope these days is in the double pivot and we have better options and can invest in certainly better.. a weaker manager aka Moyes or LVG would shoe horn Rooney in.. Jose will not imo.. unless he is producing performances worthy of a spot.. Kroos rumoured to be an option and if Pogba goes to Madrid it's possible..

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          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Kroos only interested in City I heard

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            1. KingNidge
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Could be the case mate.. all will become a lot clearer within the next few weeks before clubs jet off on pre season tours

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          2. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Issue is they gave the keys to the club to Rooney years ago. He has gotten away with petulant behaviour, threatening to leave the club repeatedly unless he got more money under both Fergie and Moyes. When you think back to Fergie of old and how he dealt with players like that, Rooney should have been tossed out. He wasn't and has grown into a lazy sod who shows up entirely out of shape for the season with a first touch of a League 2 player. I'm certain he is being protected by higher ups at the club at this stage.

            I really hope Mou drops him but I have absolutely no faith that that decision will be his to make. I hope I'm wrong, but for a long time I've sense that Wayne rules the roost at United.

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            1. KingNidge
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Rules the roost no more... Jose won't have any of that nonsense and wouldn't have taken the job if he didn't have total control over such issues after being constantly undermined by Roman at Chelski

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              1. Somalion
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 2 months ago

                That is my hope. But when you look at someone like LVG who, though unpopular etc. he has a long history of falling out with players and dropping players. Then Rooney plays like an amateur, overweight player and still keeps his place?

                The one thing I cling to is the likes of Giggs leaving the club signals that some control from the board is being relinquished. Will they let it extend to Rooney? I f**king pray for it.

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                1. KingNidge
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 2 months ago

                  It's a pretty simple scenario for Rooney at this stage.. either accept that he is no longer guaranteed first 11 football week in week out or go back to Everton lol.. but seriously though there was a time Rooney could leave and go to another superpower club.. not a hope now.. he can still play a decent amount of games which i'm fine with but could and should be seeing a lot more bench time..

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            2. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Spot on

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    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Wont have players schooled in this way.
      I'm sure they will be great in defence but players in Italy are extreme

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    5. Thomas M.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      hope so, together with the best player in the league if he can play like he did yesturday

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      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Hazard is sensational

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        1. Thomas M.
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          he is 🙂

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    6. Däzzy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A chelsea defender and a man United defender both who you play every week plus three rotating defenders might be an interesting tactic. Both united and chelsea start the season with good fixtures.

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  24. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    anyone captain Nolito?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah.

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  25. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Florenzi looks a player!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I can confirm he is a player.

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  26. kamdaraji
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Lots of card magnets in this game. Ramos, Bonucci, Chellini can all get firey and hot headed

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  27. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Any leaked England line up?

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  28. @ocprodigy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    MORATA YOU TWIT!

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    1. kamdaraji
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Trollata

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  29. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Morata misses a sitter

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  30. KingNidge
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    brilliant

    http://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/northern-ireland-fans-helped-reunite-11531114#ICID=sharebar_twitter

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