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When determining the value of a defender, one area that often gets overlooked is the required structure of an Fantasy Premier League squad.  Since we must carry five defenders, we have to account for the cost of our bench players as well as our starters in determining what the true cost or value is for any player.

Heavy Hitters v Rotation

Many players like to go for one, two, or even three big hitter defenders when structuring their teams, something like this in terms of price.

5.5/5.5/5.0/4.5/4.5 = 25

I’m going to take a different approach to see where the value points might be, by considering the sunk costs associated with our back lines.  And I will be arguing that a four or five way rotation of cheaper defenders might actually be the more cost effective strategy, something alone the lines of

4.5/4.5/4.5/4.5/4.5 = 22.5

If you have to spend the money on the bench spot, why not make that money work for you in a rotation?

Here Comes The Science

Firstly, I’m going to look at 4 points per game (PPG) as an excellent score for a defender, one which many would pay a premium for.  Last season, only four defenders amassed the 152 overall points this rate would have gotten them if they had played every match of the season — 4×38 games: Hector Bellerin, Toby Alderweireld, Laurent Koscielny, Nacho Monreal.

Their prices of 6.0-6.5 underscore their strong seasons and potential.  Additionally, just 21 defenders were able to hit that 4 PPG in 2015-16 regardless of games played, so it seems to be a high barrier.

Members can also look at the Rate My Team projections to see how many defenders are estimated at 24 PPG for the first six weeks.  It won’t take long.

As stated above, the requirements mandate carrying two extra defenders if playing a 352 or 343 formation, so all of us head into our decision making process for the three spots we will use actively each week having already spent money (I will use 9.0m as the baseline cost of the final two bench spots though some might go under that at 8.5  – 8.0 seems especially rash – and a few might power up for luxury rotation and go for 9.5.

So we now have to factor the cost of carrying the two bench players into our assessment of cost so the question of Alderweireld  v George Friend doesn’t become just a question of 6.5m vs 4.5m, but rather –

A) 9.5 (6.5 + the 3.0m shared cost/starter across the backline) vs 7.5 (4.5 + 3.0m) if Alderweireld and Burnley’s 4.5m priced Ben Mee are being played as individuals not part of a rotation; or

B) 11.0 (6.5 + 4.5 bench fodder) vs 9.0 (4.5 + 4.5 in a rotation) if deciding on a second or third premium in isolation; or

C) the aforementioned 25m vs 22.5m total for the defenses of 3 every week starters vs a 4-5 man rotation.

What are we getting for our money?  First, the optimistic Alderweireld and the Premiums scenarios (we will give Alderweireld a score of 4.6 — elite output for a defender — and his lesser Premiums a score of 4.0 each):

A) Three premium defenders total value: 4.2 PPG / 9.5m = .44 PPG/m

B) The value of a lesser second or third individual premium defender in isolation: 4.0 PPG / 11m = .36 PPG/m

C) The total value of the five defenders: 12.6 Points / 25M = .50 PPG/m

Now, the calculation of the cheaper defender rotations.  These numbers are estimates and may very well be too rosy, but they are hopefully somewhat reasonable.

A) No rotation to speak of beyond substantial fixture difficulty changes at intermittent times during the season — a 4.5 defender should be able to garner something like a 20-25% chance of a CS, so over the course of six weeks that would give us about 3PPG assuming a 6 for a CS and a 2 for a starting appearance.  This is not factoring in Bonus, attacking returns, and other scores, so I think it is fairly conservative.

3 PPG / 7.5m = .40 PPG/m

***Comparing to a Premium, it is close — the additional funds seem to garner an additional 10% increase.***

B) In this scenario, we consider that having a four way rotation should give you access to 2 strong CS opportunities/week (at about 40-50% odds), so we hope to be able to yield one CS/week.  We could conservatively consider that a score for our three defenders that week would be at least a 6/2/2 for 3.33 PPG.

3.33 PPG / 9.0m = .37 PPG/m

***Comparing to a lesser Premium, it doesn’t make sense to spend — the additional funds garner a decrease of a few percent.

C) In this scenario, we would rotate five inexpensive defenders, with a goal of securing maybe 9 CS over a six week period, or 1.5 CS/week for three defenders.  We could then consider a score for them to average us 6/4/2 for 4 PPG.

12 Points / 22.5m = .53 PPG/m

*** Comparing to the conventional backline, spending once again does not garner an increased rate of points per game, with another slight decrease here.

Conclusion

So why, then, do we spend money on a premium defender?  Attacking returns, breakout potential, changed circumstances, and out of position status all factor in, but the most plausible argument is likely the lack of risk in paying for coverage of an elite defence.  All of the above speculation is predicated on two very different management set-ups: Alderweireld and the Premiums play themselves — just plug them in and let their potential manifest itself over the long run.  The pay out will hopefully be 24-25 points every six weeks as long as the elite defences do their part. Last year, several did just that from the outset, while others greatly disappointed.  The cheaper defender rotation strategy relies heavily on the odds going as well as they can for a manager, with much more chance of an upsetting result for our paltry investment.  A nightmare scenario of 10 points in six weeks beckons if fortune doesn’t favor us.

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  1. Doar1986
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    are there some potential cheap ways into the Arsenal backline with the injury list?

    who?

    1. Giovanni Giorgio
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sure you want into that backline? I'm staying well clear

      1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Bellerin no good?

    2. Klopp\'s Angels
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nah, stay away! Till Wenger gets some new defenders!

  2. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Are we sure Stones will be nailed on in the City defence? Is Kompany and Stones the preferred pair?

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      It will be Kompany + Stones or Kompany + Otamendi, but Kompany's constantly getting injured.

      1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Are people willing to risk benching a 5.0 asset?

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          He won't have decent competition for his spot until Kompany's back for GW 4, which is a rubbish fixture for City anyway. Many will have wildcarded by then.

  3. kysersosa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Great article.

    Just feel that the attraction of shaw, stones makes it hard to implement this system........ best of luck with it though!!

  4. RyanHemmings
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hello all,

    Please can you rate my team:

    GK: Foster
    DEF: McAuley, Morgan, Van Dijk
    MID: Hazard, Firmino, Deulofeu, Townsend.
    ST: Aguero, Zlatan, Gray.

    Subs: Jakupovic, Feghouli, Amat, Kone.

    All opinions welcome*

    *I'm planning to use my wildcard during the international break (after GW3).

  5. RyanHemmings
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hello all,

    RMT:

    Please can you rate my team:

    GK: Foster
    DEF: McAuley, Morgan, Van Dijk
    MID: Hazard, Firmino, Deulofeu, Townsend.
    ST: Aguero, Zlatan, Gray.

    Subs: Jakupovic, Feghouli, Amat, Kone.

    All opinions welcome*

    *I'm planning to use my wildcard during the international break (after GW3).

    1. Bruisers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Strong first 3 GW team. I'm considering the same wildcard, but prefer to build my team for a longer period of time just in case. Also, I went for a cheaper defense.

    2. spanner91
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      i like the team, same front 3 as me.

      im still struggling to nail down a midfield, how confident do you feel about deulofeu and his minutes?

  6. zebiand
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How long do you guys think Ryan Bertrand will be out injured? Want to bring in Matt targett but no point if it's only for a gameweek or two.
    Answers are greatly appreciated thanks in advance

  7. korojmeister
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Appreciate if u can spare a few mins for my team below 😀

    Foster
    Valencia - Stones - Friend
    Haz - Lamela - Ramirez - Townsend
    Kun - Ibra - Vardy

    Subs: Jaku - Fletcher - McAuley - Amat

    Two quick question
    1) best 4.0m def
    2) best 4.5m mid

    Cheers guys

    1. StefanMorrison1221
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1) hard to say maybe smith
      2) I would say pieters as he is a Stoke defender and is a fullback so h can get some assists if not maybe Evans or Mcualey could tickle your fancy

  8. Cofinho
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hello guys please Rtm!
    Schemeichel/jaku
    Kolarov Valencia Williams Friend Mcauley
    Hazard Mane Mahrez Townsend Fletcher
    Kun Long Gray

  9. Frasmac
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Great article. Quick question who would you go for A - Moreno or B - Stones

  10. Blue Flag Flyer
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    First and final RMT before we kick off:

    Butland

    Taylor - Stones - Shaw (Souaré - Wasilewski)

    Hazard - Firmino - Redmond - Arnautovic (Højberg)

    Agüero - Ibrahimovic - Gray

    All feedback much appreciated, thanks in advance.

    1. Swanremainsthesame
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hope you have gkp backup bcos Butland is out.

  11. Platinum
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Would be grateful if could RMT and two options.

    A) Foster (Jaku)
    Williams/Walker Stones Shaw (Friend, Amat)
    Redmond Firminio Lamela Hazard (Capoue)
    Aguero Ibra Gray
    (1m/0.5m ITB)

    B) Foster (Jaku)
    Friend Stones Shaw (Parades, Amat)
    Tadic Firminio Lamela Hazard (Capoue)
    Aguero Ibra Gray
    (0 ITB)

    1. Bruisers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I like B. Went with something similar, but didn't include tadic. Could downgrade one player if freeing up cash in the bank is a priority.

  12. MaxiRobriguez
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    There's no need for a 'Premium' defender to start the season with this year when you can get Stones for 5.0. Probably one to hold as well, I think he'll be favoured to Otamendi.

    If Kone moves to Everton and bags a starting spot then at 4.5 that's a route into Everton who have very favourable fixture from GW3 onwards for a while.

    Two other 4.5's can rotate for the 3rd spot and then you can have Amat as 4.0 backup.

    That's as cheap as your 5 way rotation but has what I'd consider a premium defender in it.

  13. lonecomander
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I enjoyed the article. I think you make a decent point. The one factor I did not see in your calculations is the inherited risk of cheap rotation. With a premium asset you are never going to have to risk a loss of points. With a budget option you have to factor making the wrong decision into your risk. This may come back to our old favorite debate of maverick vs dullard. If you manage the risk and correctly invest the extra funds you can play like a maverick. If you enjoy your premium team blanket, then the dullards carry the day.

  14. La vida FPL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    Cech, Janku

    Valencia, Walker, Stones, Friend, Evans

    Hazard, Townsend, Redmond, Ibe, Deulefeo

    Ibra, Aguero, Gray

    Good to go??

  15. Hakuna Morata
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Rate this team please !!

    De Gea (Jaku)
    Stones Valencia Williams (Friend, Paredes)
    Hazard Sigurdsson Ayew Redmond (Leko)
    Gray Kane Aguero

    Thanks in Advance 🙂

  16. Bruisers FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    This article provides me the opportunity to vent my frustration:

    when playing the odds and a cheap defense concedes to one of the worst offenses. Agh!

    When playing the odds and a premium defender concedes to one of the worst offenses, and gets a yellow card, while a cheap defender on the bench gets a clean sheet or goal/assist and bonus points against one of the top 4. Blaaagh!

  17. Bruisers FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I'd like to see an analysis of the top 10 or top 50 FPL teams. My unscientific memory is that most have a premium defender or two at the end of the season, but I would love to see their teams and year-long defensive strategies analyzed.

  18. Swanremainsthesame
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    There is one very major problem with this analysis.

    Clean sheets do NOT follow fixture difficulty.
    Therefore claiming better clean sheet chance for cheap defenders by fixture rotation is not valid.

    Example 1.
    WBA, more clean sheets away than at home
    Cause = grinding out clean sheets with 11 behind the ball is acceptable away but not in front of your chairman & fans.

    Example 2.
    MCI more chance of a clean sheet against top10 opponents than bottom 5 at home
    Cause, again entertainment play for 3,4,5,6,7-1 instead of closing out a boring 2-0

    A proper Clean Sheet fixture analysis of the first 6 weeks reveals absolutely nowhere you would be better off rotating than go 1xGK+3x premium , 1xgk+2x cheap bench filler
    Tot,mun,ars,wba,lei have the highest clean sheets in gw 1 to 6, of those only lei offer a rotation and that with another premium price so take 3x always on from tot,mun,wba & you are sorted

    that may change after gw6 but it will still require Clean sheet analysis not the flawed fixture chart

  19. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Cheera again for the replies, and there are several points here that are well taken.

    I do realize that the premiums offer more security and the rotation could easily go up in flames, but my intention was to look at how much upside one truly finds when spending more heavily on defenders, and I'm not sure the points output justifies the expense. Will be interesting to see how things unfold.

  20. harvard
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    for gw1
    a. play long and townsend, bench feghouli
    b. play caroll and redmond, bench townsend

    help.