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Rotation and defensive tactics have limited investment this season in Manchester City players not named Carlos Tevez or Joe Hart. Yaya Toure has reached double-digit ownership during the second half of the season as a budget buy and Aleksandar Kolarov saw a mini-bandwagon that lost a wheel (or two) before it ever reached full speed, but City’s Fantasy stew has generally remained lukewarm at best, despite a respectable season that sees them well positioned for a Champions League spot.

The Blue Moon is rising, however, and favorable fixtures and greater clarity regarding playing time have prompted significant discussion in recent days about the City midfield in particular, with some having already taken the leap and others pondering gameweek 35 and 36 purchases. Without question, the fixtures are most enticing. City are half of the season’s only remaining double gameweek, with that double sandwiched between two home fixtures against sides that have struggled mightily on the road (WHM, eve/TOT, STK, bol).

Although Toure and David Silva have earned most of the attention, Adam Johnson has also been added to the mix. We have scoured the stats and numbers to look at some of the pros and cons of each of this trio ahead of this weekend’s Eastlands showdown with West Ham.

Scoring. Although their respective styles are dramatically different, their overall league production this season is nearly identical:

FPL ptsGoalsAssistsBonus Pts
David Silva1234716
Yaya Toure1275614
Adam Johnson87459

The goals and assists are basically even, with Johnson trailing in overall points only due to reduced playing time as a result of injuries and rotation.

Playing Time. Breaking it down further, here is a quick look at their playing time in minutes as well as each player’s game count in terms of games in which each played 60 or more minutes, played 1 to 59 minutes, and did not play at all:

Minutes PlayedPlayed 60+ minutesPlayed 1 to 59 minutesDid Not Play
David Silva21572463
Yaya Toure25162823
Adam Johnson124811157

The numbers explain why Toure has been the preferred option thus far as he has been immune to rotation and held a central role in City’s team. However, the numbers may also support digging a little deeper with Roberto Mancini appearing more committed to a set lineup at the moment than at any time previously during the season.

Average Scoring. As the next chart reveals, Toure leads by a small margin in terms of points per appearance, but drops to the back of the pack if the analysis is limited solely to points from games involving more than 60 minutes or to all points per scored per minute of playing time:

Avg Pts Per AppearanceAvg Pts Per 60+ Minute AppearanceAvg Pts Per 90 minutes
David Silva4.104.465.13
Yaya Toure4.234.464.54
Adam Johnson3.355.186.27

A Final Breakdown. Consistent with these season averages, a quick glance at each player’s last five starts shows that – when they have played – all have been productive recently. Silva leads the way with 36 points in his last 5 starts (7,11,2,10,6), followed by Toure with 28 points (8,2,12,2,4) and then Johnson with 26 points (8,5,8,2,3). To be clear, these are each individual’s last five starts, not necessarily City’s last five games – arguably a reasonable approach if you are persuaded that each now hold a starting position. In addition to these point tallies, members accessing the OPTA stats will see that Silva has a commanding advantage in the category of key passes, while Toure holds a nod in successful dribbles. To his credit, Johnson has done well if not superb in both categories despite significantly fewer minutes.

Silva – As long as Tevez remains out, City’s attack should continue to run through Silva, and in turn increase the likelihood of his inclusion in Bonus Points, if not actual scoring. If you have cash to splash, Silva looks to hold an edge over Toure based on most recent form, but it is far from clear that he has a sufficient edge to warrant the expenditure if cash is tight.

Toure – Toure’s primary advantage to date has been his greater assurance of playing time, an advantage that may no longer exist. In any event, you can’t go wrong at the bargain price of 5.8 for an attacking midfielder, and it says something that the numbers are so close given their price difference. While perhaps a slightly more conservative approach, Toure frees up additional funds for your final moves of the season.

Johnson – Three straight starts bode well for Johnson during the run-in. All in all, he represents good value at his bargain price of 5.6 if cash is an issue. That said, he could make way should Mancini opt to start with Edin Dzeko and shift Mario Balotelli to a wide role. A riskier option and the wildcard in the pack.

da Beeeez Recognizing that it's better to be lucky than good, da Beeeez often sleeps through the early games on the weekends...

  1. NLB
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    Anyone else thinking Nani to Silva this week? May even give him the armband

    Then Barton to Yaya next week

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  2. Alonso14
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    Defending a 25 point lead.

    A. Nani and Welbeck - Silva and Odem -4
    B. Nani, Zamora and Salcido - Silva, Odem and Lolorov -8
    C. Nani, Zamora and Welbeck - Silva, Odem and Balotelli -8

    Vital moves this weekend!!!!

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    1. FPL Emu
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      Why aren`t people afraid of Silva getting rested? Seems no one is mentioning it right now.

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      1. Viper
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        Because last time he got rested (liverpool away) Mancini apologised and admitted it was a mistake leaving both him + de Jong on the bench..

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        1. FPL Emu
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          So he`ll keep De Jong on?

          Is he out?

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      2. King Eric, in America
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        Perhaps because Mancini benched him vs. 'Pool and got his arse handed to him?

        Of course, as CL place becomes cemented that 'certainty' of Silva starting each game can be tested ... but I think conventional wisdom is that Mancini won't repeat that mistake so soon after ...

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    2. Alonso14
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      sorry c is yaya in not silva

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      1. Alonso14
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        cos didnt mancini openly admit a mistake in resting silva vs liverpool and will want to secure 3 points against west ham!!!?

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        1. FPL Emu
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          If the FA cup final is May 14, hell surely be rested for one match anyway right?

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          1. Viper
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            Getting to the champions league is just as important as an FA Cup win imo.. (For city that is..)

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  3. Fran
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    Breaking News:

    18 month boy signs for Dutch club and demonstrates his skills.

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/45106/

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    1. Demí
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      Fergie Fergie sign him up!

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    2. Boom!!!
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      "Reports that Arsene Wenger made a late bid to bring Baerke to Arsenal with the promise of first-team football are as yet unconfirmed." 😆

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  4. Snooze ya lose
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    Still got my free transfer. What do think of my current line up, any suggestions? 1.1m in bank. Many thanks

    Foster (Robinson)
    Vidic, Coleman, Luiz (Djourou, Simpson)
    Nani, A Young, Adam, Dempsey (VDV)
    Rooney Odemwingie (c), RVP

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    1. Demí
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      vidic > kolarov/lescott

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      1. Snooze ya lose
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        Not a bad shout

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  5. Henry Hill
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    Anybody thinking of getting in Liverpool players?

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    1. Demí
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      Only suarez probably. Kuyt still doesn't convince me.

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      1. Ini
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        I chose Kuyt over Suarez last week. Suarez drops to deep for my liking. Kuyt on PKs as well.

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        1. Demí
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          Hope it works out for you, I just love suarez more.

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          1. Ini
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            It paid off last week GW. Somewhat. I like Suarez more too. Actually, this is the first time in about three years I've had Kuyt

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  6. hthejambo
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    I already have suarez thinking bout kuyt and makin him capt

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  7. AP
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    Testing testing

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    1. Billy Manchester
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      Yes, fantasy football is very testing.

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      1. AP
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        Far too testing.

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        1. applebonkers
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          AP your paint skills are as raw as agbonalhor's right foot

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          1. AP
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            Desaturate tekkers. Plus im a photoshop man thank you very much.

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        2. applebonkers
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          actually upon further inspection (enlarging the screen) that's a very good effort B+

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          1. AP
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            My CantonaPartridge Grav got called the greatest ever userpic on twitter from the beardedgenius himself.. You're dealin' with a pro here man.. 8)

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      2. applebonkers
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        😯 THE billy manchester?

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        1. Billy Manchester
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          Is there another?

          Would there dare to be another?

          Would anyone want to impersonate me, being a more accurate question...?

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      3. AP
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        Hello again btw Billy!

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        1. Billy Manchester
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          ** Doffs cap **

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  8. Bojaninho
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    2 city mids or 1 mid and a def..??

    fabregas>siva this week

    barton>yaya next week...

    dempsey is a punk..that is all 😆

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    1. Viper
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      1 mid & 1 def..

      Silva + Lescott for me..

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  9. Fran
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    GW34:
    Fran Picks:
    Keeper: Schwarzer(9)
    Defenders: Koscielny(1) Cahill(5) Huth(10) Luiz(7)
    Midfielders: Walcott(2) Dempsey(18) VDV(5) Lampard(11)
    Strikers: Balotelli(1) Sturridge(8)
    Total: 78

    Mark Picks:
    Keeper: Cech(8)
    Defenders: Cahill(5) Huth(10) Hangeland(13) Kolarov(6)
    Midfielders: Dempsey(18) VDV(5) Lampard(11) Etherington(3)
    Strikers: RVP(7) Sturridge(8)
    Total: 84
    Mark Wins

    Mark 18 Fran 12 and 3 draws.

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    1. The Bandit
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      Pointless carrying on Fran! Season over.

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    2. Demí
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      good luck 🙂

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    3. King Eric, in America
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      Wouldn't a +/- points be more telling? I mean, your basic W/L doesn't really tell the tale, no?

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  10. Fellainious Monk
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    Trying to figure whether to stick or twist. Thinking about a 4pt hit Nani>Silva on the below team.

    Foster (Robinson)
    Luiz, Coleman, Kolarov (Huth, Clark)
    Nani, Adam, Kuyt (c), Dempsey (Young)
    RVP, Drogba, Odemwingie

    Or maybe Drogba>Suarez. Or stick with what I have. See my problem? 🙂

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  11. AP
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    Right now all you uncultured swines watch BBC2 and bask in the glory of the greatest english footballer of all time. Even DBronaldo can't hate this guy!

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    1. applebonkers
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      +1

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      1. WoysBrotherGlenJohnson
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        +2

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      Oh cool are they doing a programme on David Batty? About time too.

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      1. Billy Manchester
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        😆

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    3. AP
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      Fergie talking to the Beeb 😯

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    4. The Bandit
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      How do you measure greatness? I'm sure many will disagree.

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      1. applebonkers
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        with a 30cm ruler. bobby charlton is 29.9cm. legend!

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          😆 Ha Mr Bonkers I presume? Has the man himself seen it? Wish I had time to do RoysBrotherBarton

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        2. Shakey
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          😆 😆 😆

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  12. Hybrid.power
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    Quick poll: Carroll out, Odemwingie in. Yay or nay?

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    1. The Bandit
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      nay

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      1. Hybrid.power
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        Interesting...

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        1. The Bandit
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          You (we) have more pressing mf issues to sort.

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          1. Hybrid.power
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            My midfield is fine. My one transfer sorted that.

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    2. Demí
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      do it.

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  13. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    Gents, respectfully, anychace yis can stop acting the mokey? Easiest was to find my posts when scrolling is by that avatar thingy.

    If it's a wind up attempt, its piss poor, cos I dont really get wound up. If anything, it's worship of a kind, and therefore slightly disturbing.

    If and you please.

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    1. AP
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      It's flattery.

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      1. The Bandit
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        Nice grav but JP's works better by virtue of name.

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      2. WoysBrotherGlenJohnson
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        I see the receding hairline runs in the family

        Does this mean .. I'm .. Adopted?

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        1. applebonkers
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          evening glen. rumour has it you're a prom night dumpster baby

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Ohhh, feck! - ab??? 🙂

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          2. AP
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            lols.

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          3. WoysBrotherGlenJohnson
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            I think you're confusing me with RoysBrotherEddieJohnson..

            Racist.

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            1. jayzico
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              THIS IS HILARIOUS!

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      3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Is this A P? 🙂

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    2. The Bandit
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      How could anyone fail to spot that you don't get wound up?! 😀

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    3. Back on the horse
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      Didnt know what u were on about so jsut read back. RoysBroAdamJohnson pic just made me lol.

      you should be flattered rbj.

      youre and FFS icon

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  14. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
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    The big thing about Silva will be bps this DGW.
    safe option (who i went for obv)

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  15. Fudge
    • 14 Years
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    Are people getting rid of Dempsey this week then?

    My midfield is:

    Dempsey Lampard A.Young Adam Nani

    I would play them all, thinking of captaining Adam, and bringing in Silva/Yaya

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    1. Snooze ya lose
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      Was till he scored twice and got 3 baps tutha day!

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      1. Hybrid.power
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        Good luck waiting for him to get that score again.

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    2. Viper
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      2 goals have been scored in the last 5 meeting between the sides... Sell Him 😉

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  16. Viper
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    To start:

    Szcz or Begovic

    Carr or Walker

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    1. Boom!!!
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      bego and carr!

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    2. Caine & Co.
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      Szcz and Walker.

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      1. Caine & Co.
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        sorry, carr

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  17. NLB
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    Anyone else thinking Nani to Silva this week? May even give him the armband

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    1. Magerost
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Yes!

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    2. Alonso14
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      who to sub

      Huth or VDV?

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      1. Demí
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        Huth

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        1. NLB
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          Well if VDV isn't even on the teamsheet... 😉

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          1. Demí
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            🙂

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    3. Bazman returns
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      Well Ethers has to come out this GW. Question is do I take a hit for Silva or do I not and just go for Johnson/Yaya?

      Thoughts?

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
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        Johnson/yaya.

        Silva isn't worth the extra 4pt hit over them

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    4. Caine & Co.
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      Zamora -> Odemwingie and play Odem, Huth, Baines and Luiz (3-4-3)

      or

      R Johnson -> Lescott and play Lescott, Baines, Luiz and O'Hara (3-5-2)?

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    5. Magerost
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Now im considering doing Nani,Barton -> Yaya,Silva..
        Crazy?

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        1. Long ago I drew a walrus
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          not at all

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        2. NLB
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          I'm doing the exact same moves but over the span of 2 weeks to avoid a hit. Nani to Silva first for me

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          1. Magerost
              14 years, 7 months ago

              Good to hear, just got rid of Nani for Silva.
              Dont know if i should take a hit to get Yaya this week or wait, i want to take a hit for some differential player this week, any tips? 🙂

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        3. Long ago I drew a walrus
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          Have just done Sturridge to Odemwingie. Hope I havent missed the bus.

          I am now thinking of a 4pt hit to sort out some issues in MF. I want to get rid of Nani, but rather than go with the crowd, I am thinking of bringing in Kuyt. This leaves me with NO man city players at all and only VDV as a Spurs player. However Kuyt seems more likely to score highly than any of the aforementioned City middle men. THoughts?

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          1. Alonso14
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            Yeah depends on your situ with your leagues. I have no doubt that kuyt will outscore citeh mf this week but dont think he'll do much after that whereas silva i think will. So all depends on your vision 1 week kuyt, 4 weeks city/silva

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        4. TommyK
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          Any twitter news on carroll?

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          1. Shakey
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            He likes Jagerbombs

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            1. TommyK
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              And falling off barstools.... 😉

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        5. Long ago I drew a walrus
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          Anyone here live in Manchester?

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          1. Long ago I drew a walrus
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            The Central Library is closed for another 2 years, I wanna know where to go to get books whilst it is closed. The websites not too helpful

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        6. Bojaninho
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          fabregas or nani out for silva?

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        7. Shakey
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          Freddy Guarin. Former Football Manager hero.

          Annoying I didn't get him in my Europa team.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Ahhh - the captain I finally chose ... 😉

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          2. jamsiep
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            He and Sherman Cardenas... What ever the f*ck happened to him?! The most notable thing on his wikipedia page is that he was "wonderkid" on Football Manager. Shame really.

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            1. Shakey
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              Nicolas Millan was another one. Chilean guy who became f8ckign amazing.

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        8. Razmataz
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          Silva never seems to play the game before an FA Cup game.

          Does anyone see him playing both games in the double game week?!

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          1. Bojaninho
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            trying to secure champs league i think so!

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        9. Boom!!!
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          never doubt oscar cardozo 🙂

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          1. applebonkers
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            except in the world cup. thankfully for every cardozo there was a punt on a gangly german striker called thomas

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          2. Waldaz
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            Falcao (c) 8)

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        10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Well, I've only managed to source two of the six goals, so far ... 🙁

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Errr, three out of seven, now ... 🙂

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          2. TorresMagic™
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            Back to your usual FPL form I see MMW.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              I need to feed your negativity ...

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                You need to pick better players. 😕

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Just like you do ...

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                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    Chalk & cheese you one week wonder. 😛

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                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      Two weeks, actually - thank you for your kind words ... 🙂

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                      1. TorresMagic™
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                        Pity most of the other 32 gameweeks sucked. 😛

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                        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          Unlike your good self, who, of course, maximised every week. Jolly well done! 🙂

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                        2. TorresMagic™
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                          Always next season to improve to a decent standard of under 6 figures in rank. 🙂

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                        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          Nah. I'ld have to start competing with some quite dubious types ... 😉

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                        4. TorresMagic™
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                          You should have a league with Fran. Call it the Phone Number League.

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                        5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                          I would enjoy that - much better company ... 😐

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        11. O Fenomeno
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          So thats where Hugo Viana ended up I remeber in LMA he was unbelievable!

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