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26 May 2011 553 comments
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Having picked up 14 clean sheets in the previous campaign, Stoke’s defensive options were very much on Fantasy managers radars as pre-season squads were tentatively selected. With so much uncertainty over the goalkeeper situation, however, thoughts turned to the back four and it was Ryan Shawcross who was at the forefront of most people’s plans, given that the centre-half had also bagged 21 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Bonus Points in 2009/10.

With Tony Pulis’ side reliant on set-play delivery and well-practiced routines, Stoke’s muscular back four were always going to generate supplementary points to compliment defensive returns. However, not only did Robert Huth overshadow his centre-back partner for Bonus Points, the German exceeded all expectations by coming to prominence as Stoke’s major goal threat from set-pieces and even played his part from direct free-kicks. Ryan Shawcross was a forgotten man with Huth quickly installing himself as the prime target for Fantasy managers.

Defensively, Stoke had a slow start to the season and with just one clean sheet in the first 12 gameweeks, were looking poor value for money. Robert Huth, however, had already weighed in with a couple of goals by that point, a hint of what was to come. In a season where clean sheets were down, on average, from the previous few campaigns, attack-minded defenders proved vital and Huth ended up with six league goals (scoring four at home and two away) – the joint-top goal haul for defenders.

The Statistics
Huth started the season priced at 5.0 and even dropped to 4.9 but a run of one goal and two clean sheets between gameweek 12-14 saw his stock rise accordingly. While Shawcross offered little returns, Huth continued to impress and a huge swing in ownership saw Huth finish the season in 19% of FPL teams, compared to Shawcross’ 8%.

Stoke’s clean sheets dropped considerably, picking up just the 8 this time round, with five at home and three on the road but Huth’s goals helped him to 138 pts, just pipping ex-Chelsea team mate John Terry as the sixth best defender in the entire game.

Gameweek 26 was the highlight of the season for Huth’s owners. The towering defender capitalised on Sunderland’s inability to cope with Stoke’s set-piece threat to earn two goals and an assist. Three Bonus Points duly followed as Huth returned an incredible 19 points.

The Prospects
If this season is anything to go by, defenders with attacking potential will remain very popular targets. Huth’s goal scoring antics will surely see a price hike for the German, and he will be expected to come in around the 5.5 mark when the new player list is published – a similar pricing to Fulham’s Brede Hangeland’s this season.

Whether Huth can replicate his goalscoring antics is another matter; prior to this season he’d only scored five league goals in his entire career. Much will depend on how Pulis shapes his side over the summer – a radical change of style looks unlikely which should mean that set-plays will continue to play a major part in Stoke’s prosperity – a factor that can only aid Huth’s Fantasy potential.

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  1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    jamsiep/Kingston if you're around. How much of your potential winnings are you putting on barca to win? (% wise) If any?

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    1. jamsiep
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      The whole shebang.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        So if United win you'll only break even?

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          (I'm thinking a little slow tonight so forgive if Im being retarded here)

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        2. King Eric, in America
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          Nope - he'll have the secret satisfaction of Barca losing to United.

          You can't put a price on that.

          Bravo, JP 😀

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        3. jamsiep
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          That sort of thing....

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    2. Goose
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      If u don't have a Betclic account best thing is to:

      Put the £100 worth of bets on Man U & Draw at PP.

      Open a Betclic account and deposit £30 and put that on Barca

      Man Utd win or draw your profit £45 plus u Betclic deal is u get your stake back with your first bet that u can either bet with again or just withdraw = £45 profit

      Barca win and u get your £100 back plus you'll win about £30 with Betclic = £30 profit

      You also put upto £45 quid on Barca with another bookies as if they win you'll coin it their and with Betclic or you will get your money back with Betclic and what you win with Man Utd / draw will cover your separate bet.

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  2. TommyK
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    Lol- just noticed that joey barton calls himself "Joseph Barton" on twitter.

    Who does he think he is???? 😆

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    1. dogtanion
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      Piers Morgan schooled himself and Danny Simpson tonight

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      1. TommyK
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        yep, I'm planning on sending him a few wind-ups if he hasn't already quit twitter yet.... (he probably will)

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      1. TommyK
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        hehe- not a chance 😉

        To be fair, he did insult piers morgan, so I'm kind of torn here..... 😀

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      2. super zlatan
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        Barton was actually starting to win me over atthe start of the season until he punched pederson. He is a twat. Good footballer but his head isn't right

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          Pedersen had that coming. I would have give him a much harder smack, the little shit.

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          1. TommyK
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            😯 Kiss your mother with that mouth ATB? 😉

            In all seriousness I don't see how you can think that.....

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              He's a diving little tosser most of the time. On that particular occasion he threw his shoulder into Barton trying to be the hard man. He got a friendly smack to teach him to mind his manners.

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              1. TommyK
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                Hmm, maybe I didn't see that right- I'll just go put a pair of black and white striped glasses on.... 😀

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        2. King Eric, in America
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          I like him ... he's been detestable, sure, but he's improved light-years from what he was. Considering where he's coming from, he's a choirboy.

          Besides, Joey just thought MGP was choking and was trying to help out --

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          1. super zlatan
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            So Attila, u reckon Newcastle will make some signings this summer? With the carrol transfer fee there could be plenty of activity??

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Hopefully yeah, lots of players linked - Larsson, Gameiro, Menez, Ba etc but feck knows if we'll end up getting anyone decent. I'd be happy if we kept Barton and Enrique and got a striker.

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  3. andy85wsm
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    Rafa Benitez has been offered the manager's job at #Atletico Madrid. Full story in The Times.

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    1. super zlatan
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      Wonder will he bring back Torres lol

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    2. TommyK
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      Damn- now he can't bring down Chelsea...... 😉

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      1. AP
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        +1

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    3. BMox81
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      Rafa vs. Jose in the Madrid derby - should be interesting!

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    4. Attila the Bum
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      Hope Diego Forlan and Aguero get out before he makes them defensive wingers.

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        Fact.

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  4. TommyK
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    On a topic sort of related to a post on the previous page- I don't really get the obsession with the need for more English players playing in the PL...

    IMO, most of the most obnoxious people in the PL are English (or possibly Scottish/Welsh). Personally I couldn't give a toss if most of United were foreign. The only real argument for English players is that they are more accustomed to the football and may be more invested in the club, but this really doesn't justify the weight of feeling some people have that the Premier League needs more Englishmen.....

    I'd also argue that it would potentially improve our national side if Englishmen were forced to go abroad/raise their game in order to play for top flight clubs.

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    1. King Eric, in America
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      I can understand the desire for a world-class (even World-Best) league of all English/Brits - but that's an ideal that can't presently happen.

      Seems to me people must decide if they want a 'mediocre' league of neighborhood kids or a top Shelf league with a large % of foreigners. Only one of those will push the natives to try harder, train harder, get smarter ...

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      1. TommyK
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        yeah, this always seems to be the argument, but I still think the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. e.g. Spain and La Liga.....

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        1. King Eric, in America
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          Not sure of your point ...

          In theory, they aren't mutually exclusive. And La Liga is not the best league, by any stretch. Know why there's so many foreigners in England? Because it's the best league, with the best pay, in one of the best countries in the world. Fact is, the number of foreigners is a true compliment.

          Problem is: like all empires, it's people get 'soft' and entitled. Many of the Africans, South Americans, Eastern Europeans are hungry for a better life and willing to work long, hard, and in virtually any conditions to succeed.

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          1. TommyK
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            I guess my point would be that if English players

            a) had to work harder to get into teams (i.e. no quota system)

            and b) were forced to play abroad to get into professional football

            then our national team could potentially benefit from it.

            BTW, I still don't think the Spanish league is THAT much worse than the PL, especially if you consider the amount of good players that Barca/Real have.

            I suppose at the end of the day it will rely on the English kids coming through being good enough, but maybe that's how it should be 😉

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            1. King Eric, in America
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              Well, think of this: Could Ivory Coast or Ecuador or Bulgaria have a league, composed of nationals, that rivals Spain or England?

              Hell no, not now. Their best and brightest travel abroad. The fact that Eng and Spa (Ger and Ita, too) can largely have great leagues is *because* of their success in growing players.

              Christ, look at the U.S. ... we suck. Compared to us, you guys (Eng/Britain) are MACHINES at churning out players.

              The fact is though: our countries have more jobs delivering good standards of living than other countries ... less people are willing to enter the elite lottery of pro sports in order to make do.

              Spain's players are largely concentrated in a few teams and largely have the support (financial and otherwise) of the government itself, to a greater degree than Eng.

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              1. TommyK
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                TBH, I think the league's in England and Spain are driven as much by money and the right facilities being available than anything else....

                For example, Brazil has the most successful track record in producing players, yet its league is still not on the scale of the PL....

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            2. Attila the Bum
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              I think we should pull out of FIFA anyway. F**k the corrupt bastards. If that means a few years of no international football then so be it. Every country with any integrity will follow and we can play them.
              Ditto the Champions League etc, yes it will never happen because of the loss of money but screw it. Something has to be done.
              That Panorama t'other day just highlighted what an incredibly bent system it is. Sometimes the greater good comes before short term cash and glory.

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              1. TommyK
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                Agree on that, but if we did it then it'd just be spun by FIFA as a case of sore losers. We need to work within the system to change it or else get other countries to pull out as well.

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                1. Attila the Bum
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                  Nothing to do with 'sore losers' watch the programme. It is HUGELY corrupt. I think quite a few countries would follow our lead, especially if the biggest and most lucrative footballing nation takes a stand.
                  As David Mellor said "FIFA is a house of cards, all it takes is for one strong nation to blow it down"

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                  1. TommyK
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                    I agree it's not sore loser syndrome, but I just think that FIFA would try and spin it that way were we to pull out......

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                  2. Attila the Bum
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                    So what? There is bags of evidence proving their corruption. Who cares what they spin? It is irrefutable that they are corrupt.

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    2. jamsiep
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      I couldn't give a flying f*ck about what nationality the Chelsea players are. All I'm concerned about is Chelsea having the very best players, regardless of place of birth. But, like I said on the other page, I'm not the slightest bit patriotic.

      Attila - COD?

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      1. Clintymints
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        xbox or ps

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        1. jamsiep
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          PS3. Username is as you'd imagine. 😉

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          1. Clintymints
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            I don't do ps3 🙁 im an xboxer!

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      2. Attila the Bum
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        Yeah go on.

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      3. King Eric, in America
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        Chelsea Cyborgs, PL Champs 2022

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  5. norab
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    Hey lads, can someone do that greasemonkey thing to my team? Thanks in advance.

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    1. Fellainious Monk
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      # (c)=233/437 53.3% Bench=216 10.2%

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  6. Jafalad
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    Robert Huth. A player I never indulged in largely as a result of the presence of Bergovic. Despite his goals, I'm not quite sure he's in the top 4 with a modest ppg return. If STK tighten up at the back from the off, then he might be worth some investment next year.

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    1. Christina.
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      14 years, 11 months ago

      Same here, I went with previous season and Shawx doing so well. When last did a defender score well 2 seasons in a row? A couple of seasons ago it was Lescott at Everton, then Vidic, this year Baines and Huth.

      Who next?

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      1. Dragan Stojkovic
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        Angel Rangel if Swansea go up. Got to be in my team for his name alone.

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        1. Jafalad
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          Angel Rangel? You made that up 🙂

          That's like Julia Guiglia in The Wedding Singer 😆

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          1. Dragan Stojkovic
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            I love that film. Especially the half happy, half angry song!

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      2. Jafalad
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        Yeah I saw you kept faith with ShawX.

        Defenders who offer attacking returns are the way to go now though. What I like about Baines is that he is playing as an OOP with set play potential. It's surprising that his ppg average isn't higher. He was easily the best defender on Metro.

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        1. Christina.
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          For once I would just like to have a good start to a season. Never nice to play "catchup" from early on.

          This past season there were some decent 4.5m defender options. Can't see that happening again. Walker/Kelly/Flanagan/Djourou/Coleman & co will be 5mil+.

          To be fair though they only surfaced as the season went on and injuries took their toll.

          Wolves/wigan/bolton/Sun/BB might still have some value.

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          1. Jafalad
            • 16 Years
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            I'll never go a near a Wigan player again-in week 1 I had 3 of the blighters 😡

            Interesting to see where Walker ends up. Looks like Dann is off to LIV.

            SUN need to be monitored because they are not the same team post Bent.

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            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              Yes, I remember you be on the Bramble wagon if I'm not mistaken 😉

              I also got swayed by the scout picks on the Friday eve prior to the start of the season to get Figeora...we all know how that turned out!

              Boselli!

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              1. Christina.
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                *being

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              2. Jafalad
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                Figueroa got subbed in the 59th minute in one of the earlier games.

                Bramble was doing well when I had him. Bardsley 4.3 though was one of my best buys until I got rid in The great Cull.

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        2. jimski
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          Trouble is if Baines goes to Man City, will he be as good. I can see his attacking returns being lower, and also subject to possible rotation.

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          1. Jafalad
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            He'll just be another Lescott. 🙁

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  7. jimnastics
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    • 16 Years
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    Anyone else losing the battle to get money out of mini-leagues?? The guy running the one I won said at the start he would collect the money at the end of the season and divvy up... thought that was a bad idea back then, at that's proved to be correct. He's gone off the radar, and I guess everyone else isn't keen paying £20 for a league they probably gave up on sometime last year!

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    1. Christina.
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      Ouch, That happened to me 2 years ago. Better to get money up front and not release code to enter until monies are received.

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
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      You have to collect at the start of the season, ay. Saying that, I wish FFS would start cash leagues a la Metro.

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      1. Mark
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        I believe we'd need a gaming/gambling license to run cash leagues with entry fees and prize money.

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  8. Christina.
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    Things is I would rather get the 4.5 mill defenders from the teams that just survived the drop than the 4.5mil defenders from the newly promoted sides that I don't know from a bar of soap.

    There was a discussion on here yesterday afternoon on the possible cost of Taabart. I posted that I thought his start off price would be similar to that of Adam.

    A couple thought he would be more expensive, even as high as 6 mill.

    If that's the case I would rather go for O'hara/Barton/Cleverley(is he back to ManU?)/Henderson/Brunt

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    1. Jafalad
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      O Hara looks like he's staying at Wolves. Tarabat must go in at 5-5.5?

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      1. Evs
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        I wouldnt have O Hara...

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  9. Mak_Gold
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Go heavy on United or Barca in UCL fantasy?My gut tells me Utd. will win,but then Barca are the favourites.Or should I spread the risk and buy equal no. of players from both teams?

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    • The Bandit
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      New post, 'First' still up for grabs! 🙂

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