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28 May 2011 1103 comments
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Over Sir Alex Fergusonโ€™s 24-year reign, Nemanja Vidic has arguably been his most shrewd and vital capture. Costing ยฃ7 million, Vidic has just secured his second Barclayโ€™s Player of the Year award, featured in his fourth PFA Team of The Year and captained United to the Premier League title.

Every Fantasy Manager will be more than aware of what Vidic offers, with a hefty price tag to match his prominence in the United lineup, each season Fantasy managers are faced with weighing up the advantages of acquiring such an expensive defensive asset.

This season, such investment largely paid off. Despite United lacking the solidity of previous seasons, Vidic still managed to fetch returns that saw him soar in popularity and provide a firm foundation for his Fantasy owners.

The Statistics

At the start of the season Fantasy Managers could pick up Vidic for 7.0, a drop from his starting value of 8.0 in 2009/10. However, rising popularity saw his value climb to 8.1 by the end of the campaign – peaking at 8.2 in February and March.

Despite maintaining a strong backing from Fantasy managers, thereโ€™s no denying that the United defence had some shaky spells throughout. With Vidic present in the side, United kept 13 clean-sheets and 15 overall โ€“ a decent return, but hardly comparable to the heady heights of 2008/09โ€™s 14 consecutive shutouts. Indeed, it wasnโ€™t until gameweeks 17 and 18 that United put together back-to-back clean sheets.

There was also little improvement when it came to Bonus Points. Having gathered 17 Bonus in the 2008/09 season, Vidicโ€™s return dropped to just 7 last season and this level was maintained with just 9 coming his way this term.

Clearly Vidic has somehow struggled to earn recognition amongst Unitedโ€™s wealth of attacking talent. Fortunately however, the United skipper increased his goal threat at set-pieces which helped him earn another very respectable points haul.

Vidic enjoyed his most prolific form in front of goal in United colours, finding the back of the net on 5 occasions in the league. He therefore ended 2010/11 with 148 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) points which saw him sit comfortably in fourth overall in the defender rankings. Significantly, Vidic earned 35 more points than team-mate Patrice Evra who started the season priced at 0.5 more than his skipper.

The Prospects

With those statistics in mind, we should perhaps expect a price rise next season. A value of around 7.5 would seem likely.

Fantasy managers will be anticipating Unitedโ€™s clean sheet count to improve slightly, which should balance things out if Vidic fails to match this seasonโ€™s goal tally. Alternative options in the United defence could count against the Serb however. Rio Ferdinandโ€™s fitness will again be called into question and could open the way for Chris Smalling to earn more consistent starts in the back four. The right-back situation is another that will offer Fantasy managers potential โ€“ if either Fabio or Rafael cement a start in this position, they are surely set to offer strong short-term value.

The flipside is that, Evra aside, Vidic will undoubtedly be the consistent starter and performer in the United rearguard – he remains โ€œuntouchableโ€ as those around him come and go. The question will be however, whether his assured presence in our defences justifies a weighty Fantasy fee.

johnfinlay John swears he'll deliver unbiased Fantasy Premier League tips and news...until Leeds get promoted.

  1. Granville
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    Crowbars bum off end of seat. So hard when the opponents have so much possession.

    Well happy with that. Great response and great goal from the flat track bully.

    Defending has been sublime except for Evra switching off for the Pedro goal.

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  2. Granville
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    3-1 flattered us.

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    1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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      I think you meant "flattened"

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    2. Syd.
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      It was no disgrace... Barca are just Sublime...

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      1. chinmusic
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        +1

        They'd have Pardewed anyone.

        Plaudits to United for keeping it interesting for more than 45 minutes.

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  3. Andy
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    Yippee!

    http://yfrog.com/h8nlcfp

    Okay, I laid £90 down just in case as I thought Barca looked like they might score more goals the way they were going. But tied in with Pedro FGS (£30) and Barca to win (£20)... it's been a fairly good day!

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    1. chinmusic
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      Nice one! I got 18-1 for the same result, but only laid the 50p I had left with William Hill...

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      1. Andy
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        Yeah, the odds on this particular site were absolutely rubbish compared to others but to have a free bet come off at 14/1 is...

        I'm loving it.

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        1. chinmusic
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          So you should be. That's a sweet, sweet windfall

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      what did you bet and what was your profit overall then??

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    3. Gargamel
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      Very nice that Andy

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  4. In Like Flynn.
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    F.I.F.A.

    Federation of International Fraudsters Abroad.

    Fiddle It and Flee Away.

    Fleece Individuals For Advantage.

    Feel Inclined to Find Another? ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      Football Is F*cked Alright

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    2. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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      Fifa Is Fantasic And one of the most transparent and open organisations that has every been and are pretty much like unicef their that good??

      err... maybe not...

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Good effort though. It would have qualified if you'd mentioned the I.O.C.

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  5. andy85wsm
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    Just over 6 hours to go! Can't wait

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      I KNOW! Doctor Who is gonna be GREAT!

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      1. andy85wsm
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        I don't like Dr Who. I do like Amy Pond though

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  6. andy85wsm
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    I've got the same feeling for tonight as most of the time when I watch England at Euro's / World Cup. You know you're likely to lose but there's always that 'what if' feeling.

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    1. PFOR
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      I think we have every chance, it's a completely different scenario to 2009. This opinion might be blinkered though, for obvious reasons.

      What do the neutrals think?

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      1. Epic Fail
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        I've got a sneaky feeling Man Utd might nick it. Being at Wembley may make all the difference.

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      2. Attila the Bum
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        I think United can win but they have to play a pacey direct open game. They will only have about 35-40% of possession, but so long as they use it well they can win.
        Valencia and Park HAVE to attack their fullbacks, if you sit back you'll be overrun.
        Hope United win.

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        1. PFOR
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          If Park can pin Alves back, and Valencia gets the better of Puyol that might be key. Rooney really has to help to do a job on the midfield trio, and hopefully he won't get frustrated because it's likely he'll be without the ball for a lot of the game.

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            Yeah Busquets will be winding Rooney up something rotten. He'll have to behave. I'd fancy Hernandez and Rooney against Puyol and Pique

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        2. andy85wsm
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          This basically. Have to play 4-4-2 and when we have the chance attack! Park needs to keep going at Alves.

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      3. andy85wsm
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        I thought we had a chance in 2009, this time, not so much. Saw a retweet from a BBC journo yesterday, saying rumours are Fletcher will start, Chico on the bench for a 4-5-1. It then went on to say Owen was on the bench and NOT Berbatov so unless hes got some injury I don't know about, that tweet sounds like complete BS ๐Ÿ™‚

        You always have a chance in a one off cup match but I still think Barca have too much for us.

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          Id say Chico will start, need someone to chase down everything and hassle valdes so he has to clear it long.

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      4. King Eric, in America
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        "Neutrals"?

        Might as well call him by name ... Gargamel.

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          ๐Ÿ˜•
          Hardly. There's only Jamsiep and Damn Dan I've seen actively supporting Barca.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            Chamakh That too ๐Ÿ™‚

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Ok three then, and Dbronaldo is probably going schitzo trying to decide which to support ๐Ÿ™‚

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          2. Boom!!!
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            MF as well

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          3. PFOR
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            Barcelona grav = deprived, frustrated and jealous Liverpool/Chelsea/Arsenal fans.

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            1. AP
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              8)

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            2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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              that is purely a coincidence

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          4. King Eric, in America
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            No offense 'Tila ... guess the squeaky, cranky, mal-tempered wheels make all the noise.

            Cheers to all, apologies for the Neutrals.

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          5. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            i am very disappointed/surprised at the apparent lack of barca suppport

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            1. PFOR
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              I'd understand it 2 years ago, when United were seemingly dominating Europe. But this year I would think that most Englishmen would love to see an English team win in Wembley, against a bunch of cheating arrogant kunts.

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              1. Boom!!!
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                is there a rule that u have to support ur own country's club ? ๐Ÿ™„
                arsenal/l'pool/chelsea fans don't like us and want us to lose every game all year then why would they want to support us now?

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                1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                  don't fight my corner please

                  thanks

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                  1. Boom!!!
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                    ha!i never will, i was just making my point...

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                2. King Eric, in America
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                  Some might suggest 'national' and/or 'league' pride?

                  Crazy concept amongst some Bohemians on here, I admit.

                  This "tribalism" that has degenerated respectful competition into vicious hatred is unfortunate, IMO.

                  So glad I come from a country with such a shite league that doesn't present such conflicts ๐Ÿ˜€

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                3. PFOR
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                  I'm not asking them to parade around in United jerseys, but the blatant support of Barca is a bit pathetic.

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                  1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                    it's partly to wind you lot up and spark some conversation

                    doesn't look like it's working though

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                  2. Attila the Bum
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                    To be fair I'd be suprised if many of you United fans would support Chelsea in similar circumstances.
                    Anyway I wouldn't worry about what other people are doing today, United don't have much to lose (unless they get humiliated). If you win - happy days, if you lose then you've lost to a side thought of as one of the best ever (prematurely in my opinion).
                    I'd like United to win and the game not to be ruined by constant diving, surrounding the ref at every decision and that kind of horrible shite that ruined the Barca Real semi 1st leg.

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            2. Natas
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              Maybee disappointed, but I am surprised you are surprised. Barca are hands down the best team in Europe, but their histrionics have made them a team you love to hate. To me Ronaldo was best player for long time, but all of histrionics also made me not like him so much. Nani - same thing!

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                i'm surprised that you are surprised that i am surprised

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                1. Attila the Bum
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                  I'm suprised that you are suprised that he is suprised that you are suprised. It's very suprising.

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                  1. Natas
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                    I'm surprised that you're surprised that he's surprised that I'm surprised that he's surprised. Its very surprising how surprising you think this to be.

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      5. Natas
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        Valencia on Puyol is area to exploit. Vidic and Ferdinand need to be perfect. United have a fighting chance. Not to mention, if VDS is to have a game of his life, it will be today.

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  7. andy85wsm
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    Fair play to barca. Doing what they do best. Winning matches. I'm getting fu*king smashed either way

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    1. Syd.
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      Nothing no team can do when Barca turn up and play like that. United were never going to live with that style of football.

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  8. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Wow, first (though nobodys on here!)

    Just a reminder...
    41.Paddy Power may, at its sole discretion, exclude selected customers from receiving the selected promotions: guaranteed best price; bonuses; free bets; enhanced prices; and money-back specials and any other promotions and offers introduced by us from time to time.

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    1. Jafalad
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      So the boys are going to lose out on their 44 squid then? ๐Ÿ™

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      1. Badonge
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        potentially 99 quid if it goes tits up

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      that would be funny, especially as they sponsor this site

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      I thought someone had already asked the bookies themselves and they dais it was fine?

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    4. Get up ya bum
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      I was saying the other day, if they've used one account to put all the bets on then I can't imagine PP giving them the refund.

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      1. Epic Fail
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        ^^^ Pretty much this. They have software which picks up these things. There may be quite a few disappointed people this evening.

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    5. IAmTheWalrus
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      Seriously?

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    6. IAmTheWalrus
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      Reading that rule, that doesnt actually say after they have availed of it, that reads to me , like they may be excluded from future promotions, which PP are pretty famous for, if you do one over them they stop you from doing it again

      I dont see them going against their fair name for 44 quid a person!

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    7. The Glory Hunters
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      Don't these bets fail if it goes to extra time tonight?

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
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        Not at all, to go to ET, the result in 90 is a draw, which is covered...

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        1. The Glory Hunters
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          I see - hmmmm

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        well no because you are betting on the draws too, up to a point

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    8. Gargamel
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      Most bookies have things like that included in their T&C or whatever, and what it's basically saying is that they can do whatever they want to their customers without giving any special reason.

      The gambling industry is really a shite one.

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
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        too true, worst case scenario, bets are made void and no one gets profit, but no one should lose over this either!

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        1. Kingston
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          They've just added something to this promotions t&c's which says if they feel people are using this promotion as a guaranteed profit bet they withold the right to void any bets

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            but this bet isn't a guaranteed profit bet

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            1. Kingston
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              That's true. Just seems odd how they've just added another clause. The b*stards are onto us!

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              1. IAmTheWalrus
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                They sure are, but we certainly have legs to stand in arguing back.

                I chatted to live help, they assured me it was ok yday, (too afraid to ask now!)
                its not a guarenteed profit
                if 5 goals are scored we lose it all!

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              2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                seems a bit unfair/unlawful to just add a clause now!

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                1. Kingston
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                  Bookies can get away with pretty much anything. I don't personally think they'll even void the bets because as smoochie said there is a possible lose scenario

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        2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          could they not refuse to refund people if barca win?

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          1. IAmTheWalrus
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            Thatd be mean,

            The way i look at thing Kingstond discusses, it says void, so i feel safe enough thats their worst threat, they can see the bets now, so if there is an issue, why not cancel them now?

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            1. Kingston
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              I agree completely. Voiding the bets is the worst thing they'll do. Which if Barca win wil not make any difference

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  9. Syd.
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    Vidic... lulz...

    What are the odds he gets sent off tonight... ๐Ÿ˜†

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    1. big oak
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      none, torres is not playing....

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Disciplined is the key. Have to realise Barca are going to have lots of possession. Hopefully Rooney can keep his cool, he's not great when it comes to not getting a touch of the ball for any time period.

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  10. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Syd if youre around, what tournament were you backing Mcilroy for yesterday?

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      PGA at Wentworth i would assume!?!

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  11. AP
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    Surreal Football on twitter is absolutely brilliant:

    "I'd like United to win, not mainly because I support United, but mainly because English Barcelona fans genuinely deserve death".

    And on football blogging elitism:

    "The same in-jokes get passed about with strange uniformity. Gareth Bale, how did he win player of the year? What a joke. Overrated; Redknapp, how do the media love him so much? Alan Shearer, now there’s a shit pundit. It’s been said a thousand times before, repeated ad nauseum by people hoping it’ll be enough to get them to join the chosen few. It sets out to mock what it perceives to be the establishment of clueless ex-pros talking wind for the cash. In reality, it’s an incestuous cesspit more stagnant and repulsive than anything on TV"

    Love Love Love it.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      yawn.

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      1. AP
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        Braga.

        Firing squad is that way โž™ โž™ โž™ .

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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          HA!

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            aw look! it's AP's new lover boy

            do you want me to give you some privacy?

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            1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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              Dan - every thing you touch turns to skittles so i imagine most women are safe x

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                most, not all ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    2. Gargamel
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      As usual when it comes to Surreal Football I love parts of it and think other parts are a bit OTT. The general idea about the 'alternative bloggers' is a sharp one but it doesn't mean they don't make good points every now and then. And I don't really get why Englishmen can't support Barcelona?

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      1. AP
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        It's a joke Garg! Of course Englishmen can support Barcelona.

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        depends on what form that support takes i guess, there's something wrong if they are your principal club...

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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          err.. grav?

          only messing i can honestly say if city or liv or chel or ars were there instead i would prob get barcelona tattooed to my forehead!

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        2. Gargamel
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          Why?

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            because that is basically saying there is no team in england that you want to support even though you live there, are english, and we have the best league in the world

            it is the worst kind of glory supporting, never mind all the man u fans in london, this is on a diferent level

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            1. Gargamel
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              I see.

              My view is that you can support whichever team you want, anywhere. It's not like teams have any real ties to their area anymore anyway - and even if they did that would not be incentive enough for me to support a team.

              A football team is an abstract product, it's like supporting Nike or Apple to me. Nothing to do with where you're from, merely a way to make the game more exciting for some.

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                well yes, what you are highlighting is a relatively new concept and a big part of me does hark back to the days when the premiership wasn't overrun with foreign players

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              2. Boom!!!
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                +42!

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              3. AP
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                Spot on garg, as per.

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  12. Locarno
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    In the Champions League final, Dani Alves goes down like a ton of bricks after an awful Paul Scholes tackle.

    The referee sends Scholes off, but also books Alves for simulation.

    Alvi says: "What the hell, ref? How can you send him off and also book me for diving?"

    "Well, the f*cking tackle was on Iniesta."

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    1. AP
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      Ha.

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  13. skooldaze
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    Where did you finish % to the rest of FPL?

    To find out - go here http://www.onlineconversion.com/percentcalc.htm

    Put in

    (your league position)
    is what percent of
    2,463,487

    The result is what percentage you finished up in the world rankings

    Mine was 0.22% which sounds pretty impressive!

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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      8.1% wwwaaannnkkk

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        wow

        that IS wank

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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          HAHA - i got too focused on beating my rival - but that still doesnt cover it as an excuse - too many mistakes my skittle munching poster..

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            your rival can't have been much cop either then?

            i don't actually eat the skittles

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            1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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              if you tried to eat 1 - would it simply turn into more skittles or would it just remain a single skittle but change colour?

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                as it is already a skittle, and everything i touch turns to skittles, nothing will happen

                i'm getting sick of typing using a dildo attached to my forehead though...

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    2. Epic Fail
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      0.28%

      Great stuff.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      Ye Gods! Can people really not work out their own place?

      24,634=1% ish

      Come on peeps grey cells working,I know it's the end of the season. ๐Ÿ™‚

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        What's a % ?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          It's where you have a polo either side of your tongue.

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          1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            its when you use a diagonal samuri chop to turn 1 sphincter in to 2

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            1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              it's where rasputin slides his finger between AP's balls

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              1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                its a graphical representation of dans un-descended testicle and his pen15 veering of in the direction of lionel messi's forehead

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                1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  i know messi is small, but i doubt his forehead is the same size as my teste?

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                2. AP
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  lols

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      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        I'm peed off with myself for wasting 30 seconds doing this pointless thing. I can tell how good I've done just by looking at my rank.

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          yeah i didnt actually do da link - i did it with a calcultator...

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      3. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Er... Flynn, isn't 2,463 equal to 1 per cent?

        *prepares to get shot down in flames*

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        1. Locarno
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Please ignore that stoopid post. Flynn's right.

          0.046%, by the way.

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          1. gooner dave
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            God I must be bored 0.017 here.

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          2. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            Good position Locarno, My team selections fell apart last couple of months. But 2.1% gives me a slightly easier target for next year.

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    4. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Top 0.5 percentile....Happy with that for my first year playing

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    5. HowManyGoals
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      0.045% which sounds a lot better than it is. Last game week destroyed me in all fronts

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  14. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    blatter bottling it and not attending the final

    wonder if i can have his seat...

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I expect he's sold it already.

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    2. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      2 normal b0llocked people only - : )

      i was joking about the tattoo btw..

      calm down dan your only going to get worked up and hurt someone - like the person you must be getting to type for you as clearly your not typing and stuck in some weird skittle catch phrase paradox

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        i'm as calm as a hindu cow

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          you know what - i went to india last year and your right!! they lye on the road in the night and calmly mooooo in the face of death

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  15. Nibbsy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone with more betting experience than me, can you explain why no betting sites are allowing me to bet on a double of Barca to lift the trophy and Messi anytime scorer?

    Cheers.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Email one of them and let us know.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      you mean as opposed to a barca win in 90 and messi anytime?

      dunno

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      1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        dan - how would i link my team - for you to lambast me all day for how wwwannkkk it is and call me a glory munching bellmaster?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          FAQs above will take you through it Rasputin.

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        2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          go the the FAQs, about half way down there is a link to go to "this page"

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Probably because they reckon the probability of one part of the bet will increase the likeliness of the other.

      What I'm trying to say is that if Messi scores Barca are more likely to lift the trophy than if he doesn't, and if they lift the trophy Messi will have been more likely to have scored than if they didn't.

      Some bookies create specials for these things, but generally they don't let you combine doubles where the two singles 'interfere' with eachother like that.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Possibly, but the same thing happens for other bets too. For example, I can't remember exactly what I was trying to bet on, but I tried to combine a snooker bet with a football bet and the same thing happened as what is happening to Nibbsy here.

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      2. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Ah I guess that makes sense, cheers.

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      3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        it does seem strange though that you can bet on a barca win in 90 and messi anytime, but not barca to lift the trophy and messi anytime... there can't be that much difference

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          When I tried doing that at PaddyPower they did not allow it. Said those two could not be combined, and I think that is what Nibbsy tried to do.

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            it is on paddy power under match specials

            i saw it this morning

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            1. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              I'll quote myself from my original post,

              "Some bookies create specials for these things, but generally they don’t let you combine doubles where the two singles ‘interfere’ with eachother like that."

              They probably just forgot to create a special for that scenario.

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                seems a good bet though

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                1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  go on then dan - i am assuming you have some free time to rinse my teamm - but seriously where did i go wrong? i am like andrew marr (all ears!)

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                  1. Natas
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    For starters, you lost 68 pts in transfers, although I am noone to talk. Too much faith in Drogba early - Kyrgiakos was in your team (not one to talk on that one either). Overall there is not much explanation, your team was just really overall shitty. Nothing to worry about though, captaining was tough this year, and we were forced to rely on average players to bring in the points, no big gun guarantees this year.

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                  2. King Eric, in America
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    Wow ... unvarnished truth, there.

                    You (Rasputin) actually were pretty consistent with the previous year.

                    I wouldn't call it 'shitty overall' though - unless you're captain hindsight.

                    For what they're worth, your greasemonkey stats are actually quite good:
                    (c)=239/429 55.7% Bench=197 9.8%

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          2. Nibbsy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            Yep I tried both with PP - to lift trophy and inside 90 mins. Neither would allow a double with Messi to score.

            I can't see it under the specials either, but in any case I wanted to do it for my free bet with Boyle Sports. Oh well, I'll just do Barca inside 90.

            Cheers for the help all.

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              1. Nibbsy
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                Ah nice one, I'll email Boylesports and see if they'll match it.

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              2. Natas
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                Being that they do offer that bet, the Odds are horrendous - should be more in 4-1 area statistically, but then again the fact that they are offering is good enough.

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                1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  well yeah

                  you may as well put them on as seperate bets

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                2. Nibbsy
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  Ah fair enough, cheers. The only thing is that I only have one free £10 bet, so I can't place them as separate bets for free.

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                  1. Nibbsy
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    Ignore this, I can do 2 separate £5 bets for free.

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    4. Natas
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Its like betting barca win first half barca win second half and barca win the game. Obviously if you win the first 2 you will win the third, so nobody will allow you to parlay them. Odds are too overwhelming that when Messi scores, barca wins.

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Not quite the same, but I see what you're getting at. That's why it seems like a good bet! 23/10 with PP is pretty good odds I reckon.

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        1. Natas
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          It is and it isnt - should be more in 4-1 range, if you can find another dealer that will let you parlay the two, the odds will be much better.

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          1. Natas
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            i rounded up in our favor by the way. More like 35/10

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            1. Nibbsy
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Cheers. How did you work that out, out of interest?

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  16. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    A barca player to be booked for diving 3-1. Thought you couldnt bet when a profit is guaranteed?

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      That bet uses the singular of the noun 'player'

      Honest refereeing and past practice suggest a minimum of 5-6 cards for simulation by Barca.

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      1. Natas
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        you forgot to check the odds for honest refereeing: 30-1

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  17. Attila the Bum
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    I think Newcastle are turning into Wenger wannabees, this week we've been strongly linked to a load of young Frenchies, Kevin Gameiro, and Jeremy Menez among them and apparently there is a deal done for Yohan Cabaye of Lille. I've heard of him, and he's good on FM, but never seen him play. Is he any good?

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    1. Bigo1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Menez is by far the best players of the above list; top quality player although quite injury prone.
      Cabaye is allright, but I think all Lille players will have their prices inflated because of their wonderful season. Nothing to get excited with him to be honest

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks Bigo. Yeah I've seen Menez for Roma a few times and he looks handy, not really seen much of the other two to be honest. Theres a load of speculation flying about at the moment anyway so I'll believe it when I see it. We definitely need to add a few players though, especially up front.

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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Mattsprior just called him excellent..

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Excellent. ๐Ÿ™‚

        Fancy a blast on FIFA in about 20mins?

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Cant sorry, I should be on between 3 and half 3 hopefully

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            Cool

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Lulz

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    3. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      u already signed another 18 year old from france ๐Ÿ˜•

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah I know Abeid or something.

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  18. Touré De Force
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Gerard Pique scores tonight. I'm all over it.

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      shakira going to wembley?!?!?!

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  19. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Just over 6 hours till kick-off.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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    1. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Apart from that f*cking elbow song getting used again... loving this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4rwuTkrNKc&feature=share

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7QLJera2Y

        Still a bit of catchin up to do

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Never heard of Liverpool FC, don't get Channel 5 in my area.

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          1. RoysCallerAnne
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            haha. Touche

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          2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            what area is that? unless you live in deepest asia with the rest of the man u fans you should be ok

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Says the shoreditch scouser ๐Ÿ˜† . Infact you're in a lose / lose situation here: If you are lying about where you live, you're a massive hypocrite. If you aren't, you live in Liverpool. Bad luck either way.

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              1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                for the last time, i live in the northwest, not right in liverpool but not far away!

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                1. TommyK
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  You're probably closer to manchester..... ๐Ÿ˜†

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                  1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    equidistant

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                  2. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    Oooh I'm from about the same area then Dan. Which bit?

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                  3. TommyK
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    Wait, I thought you were Irish ATB.... ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                  4. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 6 months ago

                    You know what thought did Tommy.
                    I'm English but I've lived in Ireland for 12 years now.

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                2. Boom!!!
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  liar!

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              2. Boom!!!
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                +1.

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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Youve got to stop doing that ๐Ÿ˜†

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  20. Attila the Bum
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Hows the PMT (Pre Match Tension)Mancy fans?

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      โ–‘โ–“โ–“โ–’โ–‘โ–‘Gโ–‘Lโ–‘Oโ–‘Rโ–‘Yโ–‘โ–‘โ–’โ–“. โ–“โ–“โ–’โ–‘โ–‘Gโ–‘Lโ–‘Oโ–‘Rโ–‘Yโ–‘โ–‘โ–’โ–“. โ–“โ–‘Mโ–‘Aโ–‘Nโ–‘โ–‘Uโ–‘Nโ–‘Iโ–‘Tโ–‘Eโ–‘Dโ–‘โ–“

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Haha that's a crap attempt at my glorious scarf. ๐Ÿ˜›

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    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Not so bad at the moment.

      Will be going to the pub at 3 for darts and pool and pre match drinks!

      About an hour before kick off the butterflies usually start appearing.

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    3. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Nails are gone. I hate these nights as much as I love them.

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    4. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Serious squeaky bum time.

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    5. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Can't see how there's much tension (for me) ... it's really a 'win-win'

      United are certainly the underdog - as much as I despise how Barca go about their business, they are undoubted quality. They "should" win. If United play tight and get a bit of the green, very happy day (year).

      I'd rate United @ 15% to win.

      Just hoping, really, for a quality game worth replaying over and over ... showing to my kids someday. If Barca score early, it'll be a long, boring day.

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  21. Dan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Having a bet today! ๐Ÿ˜€

    £5 on Torquay @ 13/8
    £3 on Man Utd to win on penalties @ 10/1
    £2 on Villa FGS @ 7/1

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Come on Torquay!

      Come on Utd!

      meh

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      haha Torquay. The big match!

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  22. dk123
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    If i were a norwich city fan id be very mad. spending 2.5mill on a player who could bareley score in the championship is crazy.. They would have been better off at paying the wages of owen and hargreaves instead or larsson and carew and reo corker. They couldve also at least tried to buy yakubu who is way better and cheaper.

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    1. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I'd say they'll be a little pissed too when they realize they bought the wrong Vaughan.

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  23. Natas
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Thinking of backing Vidic to score. Barca concede high % of their goals through set pieces. Local bookie paying 30-1 on that double. Paddypower paying 18-1 - they are really raking it in with these wincasts today.

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    1. Blue Teets
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Good shout esp if maschertwato is playing cb.

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      United and Barcelona have conceded 1 goal each from set pieces in the CL this far, I'd like to see the source saying that Barca concede many goals from set pieces please Natas

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        God that makes me look like a complete jerk, I'm just generally curious Natas.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          C'Mon, how many times does Jamsie use 'please'?

          ๐Ÿ™‚

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        2. Natas
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          More intuitive Garga - not saying they concede many set pieces, but from watching them over the years it seems like of the goals that they do concede, a decent % come from set pieces. May be because of their height. Ill check the stats though, not trying to invent fact, just observation.

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  24. Blue Teets
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    I really need a sh*t but I'm struggling to sit still. Might go for a wank in the shed.

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    1. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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      1. TommyK
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        I love the contrast between you and Gargamel there ๐Ÿ˜†

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      May I watch?

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    3. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      That's clearly what Bach would do. The grav is so apt.

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    4. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      So that's what "pulling a hammy in the pre-game warm-up" means ...

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  25. Boom!!!
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    chelsea's fans are worst in champs lg fantasy as well ๐Ÿ˜†
    http://en.uclfantasy.uefa.com/M/stats.mc?stat=bestfave

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    1. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Chelsea fans are the worst full stop.

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  26. Dave Bauer
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    This is a copy of a conversation I just had via the live Paddy Power customer service feature if anyone is interested:

    I want to ask about the money back offer on the champs lge final please
    Customer
    If I cover all Man U wins up to 3-2 and all draws up to 3-3 will I be eligible for the money back if Barca win in 90 minutes or will this be void because I'm almost guaranteeing a no risk bet?
    Agent
    Hello, one moment and I will look into this.
    Customer
    Great, thanks
    Agent
    David, those markets do qualify for the Money Back Special.

    However in relation to the final clause of the conditions - it is open to the interruption of our traders. Therefore I would not be able to comment on that

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    1. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      They're so clearly not going to allow it.....

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      1. Dave Bauer
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        I'm not risking it, but good luck to those that do.

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        1. TommyK
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          +1- will probably just take the 10/1 for united to win on penalties.

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    2. Natas
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      We should just get 10 of us to place 10 seperate bets and divide the winnings if any. Im in for 100. We can draw something up pretty quickly.

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      1. Natas
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        would suck though if ManU scored 4 goals

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  27. Demí
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    RavelMorrison49 Ravel Ryan Morrison :
    If u got wayne rooney in your team u won't get beat in games like today !!

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      However, you *will* get beat if you touch Ravel's phone.

      Never, ever, touch The Morrison's phone. That is all.

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    2. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Didn't realise ravel was on twitter!

      BTW- CHANGE YOUR USERNAME YOU BAD LUCK CAUSING PERSON! ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        after what happened to aussies ๐Ÿ˜ฅ i decided not to change my username to manutd winners of champs lg 10/11 ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  28. Dave Bauer
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone use betclic?

    What's their cash withdrawal process like? Is it straightforward or one of those dodgy ones where you have to send them copies of bank statements and your driving licence etc?

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    1. Dave Bauer
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Forget it, I've just done a bit more delving and it is indeed one of those weird foreign ones where you have send fax copies of your ID and bank statements before they'll let you withdraw any money - no thanks.

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    1. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      lol

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    2. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    3. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Makes a lot of sense remembering what arsenal's 433 did to our 4411 with Roon and Hernandez.

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      1. PFOR
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        It does indeed, can see that team playing. Hernandez on for Fletcher at the hour mark.

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    4. super zlatan
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Fletcher playin instead of Chico??? Not what all the pundits think. 4.4.2 with carrick and giggs centre mid

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      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Pundits never know anything.

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        1. Boom!!!
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          wrong...carlton palmer know what he is talking about...

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