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24 June 2011 700 comments
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Having snapped up Phil Jones from Blackburn earlier this month, Man United continue their summer of domestic acquisitions with the capture of Ashley Young on a five-year deal from Aston Villa for a fee believed to be in the region of £15m.

Young arrived at Old Trafford on Wednesday for a medical and, having agreed personal terms, the transfer was completed following weeks of speculation. With the player out of contract next summer and having already announced he had no intention of extending his Villa Park career, new boss Alex McLeish had little option but to sell his prize asset within days of arriving from Birmingham, saying:

”Ashley has made a terrific contribution for Villa over the past four and a half seasons and everyone at the club wishes him the best for the future. He has become an important player in the England team during that time and I’m sure he will be looking forward to this new challenge.”

Upon completion of the deal, Young had this to say to United’s own tv channel:

“The opportunity to come and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world is one I couldn’t turn down. It’s a chance to hopefully become part of their history by helping to win the 20th title…It’s a prospect I always looked at from being a child: to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world. I’ve got that opportunity now so I’ve just got to take it with two hands.”

The Statistics

Aged eighteen, Young made his debut for Watford but the first couple of seasons were largely uninspired, with just 3 goals and 1 assist from 39 appearances. The arrival of Aidy Boothroyd as the new Hornets boss in 2005-06 transformed the winger, with Young scoring 14 goals and making 13 assists to help fire the club out of the Championship and into the Premier League.

Young spent just half a season as a Watford player in the top-flight, although a series of impressive performances persuaded Martin O’Neill to splash out £8m to bring him to Villa Park. Since his arrival, Young has established himself as one of the most consistent wide men in the Premier League. Young spent four-and-a-half seasons in the Midlands, playing 157 league games, scoring 30 goals and providing 44 assists, and has become a recent fixture in the England squad of late, scoring 2 goals in 15 appearances.

Young missed just 4 games last season for Villa, scoring 7 goals and picking up 11 assists on his way to scoring 160 FPL points last season, the fifteenth highest total of last term. Young was also a favourite with the Bonus Point judges, grabbing 27, the seventh best total in 2010/11. This return followed hauls of 7 goals and 9 assists in 2008/09 and 5 goals and 11 assists in 2009/10.

The Prospects

At present, Young’s arrival at Old Trafford merely clouds the waters for Fantasy managers- Antonio Valencia’s broken ankle restricted him to 10 appearances last term and allowed Nani the game time to resultantly finish 2010/11 as top-scoring player in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), but if all three are fit and battling for the wide spots along with Ji Sung-Park, the Fantasy appeal of these players takes a severe blow. With Sir Alex Ferguson spoiled for choice, who can predict his first XI from one gameweek to the next?

Young’s adaptability as a second-striker may improve his selection chances when Ferguson decides to rest the likes of Wayne Rooney and Javier Hernandez on occasion but, again, this scenario is too unpredictable and does not strengthen Young’s Fantasy appeal. If anything, Young’s adaptability reduces pre-season confidence in the likes of Hernandez.

With his fair share of set-pieces and corners, in addition to penalty kicks thrown in, Young was something of a solid, albeit sometimes frustrating, Fantasy pick last term. Indeed, it’s worth noting that four of his seven goals were spot-kicks. It’s difficult to imagine that Young will be granted similar opportunities at Old Trafford. He will surely find competition for direct free-kicks, while Rooney will be expected to tie up penalty duties once again.

Priced at 8.5 last season, a similar value can be expected in the upcoming FPL campaign. There’s every possibility that his initial value will be hiked given his level of consistency at Villa – further reducing his appeal.

The only real positive aspect of the move from a Fantasy angle is the knock-on effect at Villa. The potential of Stewart Downing, if Alex McLeish can persuade the ex-Boro man to stay at Villa Park, will undoubtedly increase, with young Marc Albrighton possibly being given the chance to establish himself in Big Eck’s starting XI.

Young’s 27 Bonus Points last season represented 25% of Villa’s overall haul in that area – Downing and Albrighton would seem well placed to benefit from some of those points next term, while set-pieces will also be up for grabs. Darren Bent looks another likely beneficiary – he will surely be granted responsibility from the spot at Villa Park – a factor that will further boost his appeal for Villa’s kind run of opening opponents.

While Young’s departure will hinder Villa’s attacking progress next season – in Fantasy terms, the likes of Bent, Downing and Albrighton may yet emerge as stronger propositions. Until we know more on Alex Ferguson’s thinking and his likely first choice lineup, the same cannot be said for a host of United’s attacking talent.

Further Reference

Ashley Young Wikipedia

Goals and Assists 2010/11

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
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      Imagine someone got paid to write that crap. And make that picture.

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  1. patrick
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    its funny though

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
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      Genuine question.

      Why?

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      1. patrick
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        because im 10

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
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          Fair enough.

          If you are The Sun is a bad choice of paper to read for football stories.

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    1. PFOR
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      Please stop posting shite links.

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    2. Shakey
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      Please stop posting shite links.

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      1. Boom!!!
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        lol

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
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      What exactly are the links meant to do damo?

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  3. Boom!!!
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    AZARENKA through to round 4 8)

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    1. PFOR
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      You should know by now not to be making predictions with your username - Australian cricket team springs to mind.

      If, come August you're username is "Man United Premier League Winners 2012" I will hunt you down 🙂

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      1. Boom!!!
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        aye i know 🙁 i will change barca champs lg winners 11/12 so it will jinx them 👿

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  4. Lucas Leiva
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    Henderson had a bad tournament, like most of the squad. You can't say he isn't a good passer because he didn't impress in that tournament.

    Ofcourse the foreign players are cheaper that the young English ones, that's how the market is in this country.

    Henderson is a very intelligent footballer, a quick passer who will fit in with the system Kenny is trying to implant at Liverpool. In the U21 tournament Stuart Pearce's mindset was to hoof the ball up field, that obviously won't get the best out of him.

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
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      To be an intelligent footballer you need to give and example and a rationale for it. Saying it doesnt make it so

      Ive seen him grow over last 2- 3 years. He is decent. Brillant is an adjective i would use to describe him.

      Nor is his passing great. Blaming it on hoof ball is actually implying Henderson as part of the problem

      The hoof ball came from a lack of midfielders to pass to from Jones and Smalling who were left to hoof it.

      Its not a mindset but a result of lack of options.

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        wouldnt use*

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      2. Lucas Leiva
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        The U21's played hoof ball because that's Stuart Pearces style of play.

        I said that Henderson could be a brilliant player for us, he is only 21 and has been a first teamer for Sunderland for two seasons, the year before that he was Coventry's best player for the time he was there. He has improved every year and when training with players like Steven Gerrard it will obviously help him.

        Like I said, no matter how many times you want to deny it, he is a good passer, with a quick mind. He never seems to hold onto the ball for a couple of seconds before releasing it and starting an attack.

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
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          2Like I said, no matter how many times you want to deny it, he is a good passer, with a quick mind. He never seems to hold onto the ball for a couple of seconds before releasing it and starting an attack."

          Him and another 1000 players. It doesnt make him stand out.

          They also hoofed the ball as no players were in midfield capable of keeping and moving the ball or even willing to accept it.

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          1. Lucas Leiva
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            Somebody that has been doing it for years, quickly linking play between players and starting attacks, always on the lookout for a key pass through to goal, but also composed on the ball when he needs to be, seeking out a good pass, he's been doing that since he was in his teens. That's just one example of why he will fit in with Kenny Dalglish's Liverpool.

            The defenders hoofed the ball because that's what their manager told them to do. Like I said before, Jordan didn't have a very good tournament, I admit that, but he played 40 games for Sunderland that season where he was their best player.

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
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              Peace didnt tell them to hoof it. More fool on you if you think he did.

              Media has a tight control on the minds of footie people.

              They hoofed it as they couldnt pass it long enough to each other as the players didnt have the ability so resorted to what every team does in that situation.
              Yes it was pearce's fault alright - nothing to do with lack of ability to quote Attila - Bloody Norah!!

              And in comes the next manager who of course will be the savior as the only reason they hoofed it was they were told to.

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              1. Demí
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                Agreed.

                I doubt Hoof is a legitimate tactic that a coach would instill on their players.

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                1. PFOR
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                  Stuart Pearce isn't just any coach.

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                  1. njfsdkffslkf
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                    He is a poor manager /coach.

                    But he didnt go out and tell them to hoof either.

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              2. Lucas Leiva
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                Ofcourse he didn't just tell them to hoof it, but Pearce doesn't have the tactical knowledge to make us play good football, so we just resort to direct football. You rely on the manager to tell you what to do (formation/tactics wise) but as he's clueless we struggled.

                I think at U21 and youth levels it is much more about the development of the players rather than the results. I would rather we play good, attractive football and get knocked out in the group rather than play hoofball and win the thing. Pearce has done neither though, we are playing awful football and not even winning with it.

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                1. Demí
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                  "The defenders hoofed the ball because that’s what their manager told them to do."

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                  1. Lucas Leiva
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                    You know what I meant, he hardly taught/told them to play brilliant football did he?

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                2. njfsdkffslkf
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                  You can be the best tactical coach in the world

                  If your players cant carry out the basic technical it doesnt make a difference

                  By your argument Pep Guardiola could go to Carlisle and get them to play lovely possession football

                  Tactical and technical are two very different things. Which you have seemed to interchange.

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                  1. Lucas Leiva
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                    So you don't think if (your example) Pep Guardiola could make that England U21 team play good football, if he had been the manager for four years?

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                  2. njfsdkffslkf
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                    Better yes if they were coached in entirely different way for years after years

                    Wouldnt be hard given english since childhood practice kick and rush style.

                    The main thing will always be the ability of the players.

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  5. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Been meaning to ask this for a while, what blogs or websites do people use for European football? Preferably easy to read and not toooo long

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    1. Demí
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      Here is a good one Soup: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        Will give that a read. Cheers and 5-0.

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        1. Demí
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          http://i.imgur.com/mybrH.gif

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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            lool

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  6. applebonkers
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    H Dog if you're out there I found this today, a site with Watford podcasts http://www.fromtherookeryend.com/

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    1. H Dog
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      Yeh, heard of that already. It's great because instead of executives giving views it's all about the fan's perspective, but if the board don't listen to it then it may not be worthwhile.

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  7. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Dan_bu ''Felix Magath confirmed today that Diego won´t be a part of the Wolfsburg squad in the future and should therefore leave the club. ''

    There used to be such hype over him, what's happened?!

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    1. Boom!!!
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      attitude problems:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YvB8wUdhug

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        Says a lot that video, his talent to win the penalty then him ignoring the manager and other players shows his attitute problems.

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    2. PFOR
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      Played out of position at Wolfsburg a lot.

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  8. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Just got tickets for Scholes's testimonial in the post 😀

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    1. applebonkers
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      lucky guy. any word on who'll be playing?

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        No official word but I'd say the team will be like the one for Neville's testimonial.

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    2. PFOR
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      How much were they? I'll be away for that anyway.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        £5 for me and my mate, 25 for over 18s

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        1. PFOR
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          Nice! Flights will cost a bit though, August bank holiday.

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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            Yeah, we have it all booked. Flights were dearer than when we had first checked but we got tickets to the open training session the next day as well so it should be worth it.

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  9. patrick
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    whats the story with nasri

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    1. Boom!!!
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      he is likely to stay at arsenal...

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  10. applebonkers
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    can't see young and park falling out over the battle for the left midfield spot http://twitter.com/#!/MrAshleyYoung/status/17514444232

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    1. Boom!!!
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      lool

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      1. Demí
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        lol boom

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      2. applebonkers
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        man utd v bolton should be a romantic affair too with young and lee sharing a wing

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      3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        lol boom

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        1. Boom!!!
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          😉

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  11. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Footytipster's tip is off to a good start 🙁

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  12. patrick
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    GO TIPP

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  13. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Reliable guy on twitter, fourth_official says Chelsea will sign De Bruyne and Lukaku.... (He's usually spot on btw)

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    1. PFOR
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      Tell us something we don't know 🙂

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        No can do 🙂 Transfers have gone quiet this week.

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      2. Boom!!!
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        The average person who stops smoking requires one hour less sleep a night...

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    2. Granville
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      De Bruyne, yes highly regarded, Lukaku, never heard of him. Just wiki'd him, maybe one for the future but Chelsea's scouting of young players has borne much fruit over the last few years.

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      1. Andy
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        Granville!

        How can you profess to having never even heard of Lukaku? That's soft.

        The Romulan has been the most talked about young striker in Europe for the last two years, if he doesn't go to Chelsea he'll be snapped up by someone (big) in the next year.

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          That someone big being my Rushden and Diamonds FM team.

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  14. Tommytour
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    Referring to Liverpool discussion earlier, I can see Suarez and Kuyt being played wide, 3 central midfielders with the full backs given license to get forward allowing Kuyt/Suarez to float inside. So team would look something like this....

    -------------Reina-------------
    Johnson Carragher Skrtel Clichy
    ---Henderson Lucas Gerrard-----
    Kuyt-------Carroll------Suarez

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      Currently, yes.

      But don't you think that Kenny will sign a left winger?

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    2. patrick
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      the 3 midfielders you selected are all center midfield players

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      1. PFOR
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        Err yes, that's how a 4-3-3 works.

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        1. patrick
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          you can go like this

          .
          . . . .
          .
          . .

          . .
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          1. patrick
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            dang it

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    3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      I think a lot of people are forgetting that Dalglish will be able to rotate his team so getting Henderson, Gerard, Lucas, Meireles, Spearing and whoever else into one team isn't that big of a problem.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Meireles on his way out.

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  15. Gold Monster
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    Knot tied now 

    Thanks for the words guys, I managed to squeeze into the vows "through fantasy football sickness and health" 

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      Congrats mate 🙂

      But what the hell are you doing on here? you should be with your wife 😉

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      1. Gold Monster
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        Ha we have 2 kiddies so it's hanging by the pool time.

        Wife time later!

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    2. PFOR
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      😆

      Congrats

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    3. patrick
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      congratulations

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    4. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Congrats.

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  16. patrick
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    i have always hated the way lucas plays

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      Does the simple things very well, winning the ball and passing it off.

      It may not look too good and his performances might not catch peoples eye, but it's vital to the team.

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      1. patrick
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        i hate his atitude

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        1. Lucas Leiva
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          What's wrong with his attitude?

          He's never stroppy on the pitch and has always came across good in interviews.

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        2. njfsdkffslkf
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          Question

          Who made the most successful tackles in Europe this year

          Your friend Patrick

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          1. Lucas Leiva
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            Who?

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            1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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              You.

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  17. Granville
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    Quite a few regulars on tonight, it's been quiet of late. Murray has a right battle on his hands here, he was a ridiculous short price for this game. Ljubocic is a former top 5 player.

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    1. Marknlard
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      Looking good in the third.

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      1. Granville
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        I had the game paused for 10 minutes whilst I attended to the kids. Looking good for the set.

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        1. Marknlard
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          Don't miss the streaker!

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          1. Granville
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            Rewind

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    2. Boom!!!
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      yeah ljubicic played well in the 2nd set...btw murray is on fire in 3rd set 🙂

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  18. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Atletico Madrid fans must be very worried about next season, they look like losing so many players. Ujfalusi's gone, Reyes and De gea are close to leaving and Aguero and Forlan look like leaving too..

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    1. Boom!!!
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      On other hand, Malaga have signed Diego Buonanotte, Martin Demichelis, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Nacho Monreal, Jeremy Toulalan and Joris Mathijsen and Joaquin so far...they will be in the running for champs lg spot this season..

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        Woah that's a lot, you sure theyve signed all of them already or just in negotiations?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          already signed all of them...latest signing was of Joaquin yesterday for 4m...
          http://www.espnstar.com/football/transfer-zone/

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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            Jaysus

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        2. Shakey
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          They're owned by the Qatari royal family or something aren't they?

          I know Julio Baptista seems to be doing a good job of reviving his career there.

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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            Think so. I read the other day he'd scored 7 in 7 since signing and had helped them survive. Would be a massive kick in the balls for the owners if they went down.

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            1. Shakey
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              Yeah, they went on a big winning run thanks to him.

              And my accumulators got a few boosts thanks to them too.

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              1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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                Only cost them €2.5 million. Thats a serious bargain.

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          2. AP
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            B*stards were meant to be buying us. Qatari's sign us up, qatari's qatari's sign us up.

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            1. PFOR
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              Apparently the Glazers are putting us on the HKSE.

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          3. Granville
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            And Pellegrini is their manager too. They are on the way up, Spains very own Man Citeh.

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      2. PFOR
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        Interesting project they have going on there - The Manchester City of Spain! PSG have plenty of money too.

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          Aye. I don't think heyll be able to dosplace Real/Barca from the top 2 anytime soon though.

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          1. PFOR
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            Oh aye obviously

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  19. Lucas Leiva
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    --------------Caballero---------------
    -Gamez-Demichellis-Mathijssen-Monreal-
    ---===-----Toulalan-Apono-------------
    ---Joaquin-----Baptista------Buonanotte
    -----------------RVN------------------

    Looking good for a place in Europa next season. (atleast)

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    1. PFOR
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      Yeah especially with Atletico and Valencia seemingly losing key players. It's still an average team at best though.

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      1. Lucas Leiva
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        For now, yeah. But should be good enough for a top 7 finish, especially if they add more in the next couple of months and in January.

        I think it will take a while, but in afew years they could be challenging Barca / Real. Look where Citeh are now.

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  20. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    I don't see why no one wants to take over Everton. Good squad, good manager and not too high a wage bill. Their chairman always talks of looking for investment as well... am I missing something?

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    1. Elfozzie 42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      I think that's part of the story - 'looking for investment', not 'looking to sell'.

      I've been a blue for 26 years but even if I had the cash to splash I wouldn't want to go into business with Kenwright and co. Am sure they're lovely chaps and all, but from what I've seen in my time, they'd be hard pushed to run the proverbial drinking binge in a brewery. In fact the only think they have run is Everton FC further into the ground.

      Moyes has done wonders with the resources at hand (with only the occasional blip) but with the game the way it is, it's pretty hard to compete on a shoestring, so I'll be settling for a tilt at the top 6 and a cup-run again next year - could have been so different if we'd brought in Donovan (or a.n.other winger) and a striker but that requires cash.

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  21. jayzico
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 10 months ago

    anyone got any good accumlator tips for the mora? am pounds down the day and need some sure thing. desperate!

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  22. Demí
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    14 years, 10 months ago

    Quick Poll:

    Which clubs will Sanchez and Mata be playing for next season respectively?

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      Sanchez - Barca

      Mata - no idea

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      1. patrick
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        mata could be a good prem player

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    2. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      sanchez - barca
      mata - valencia

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    3. jayzico
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      sanchez> riverplate. mata> hamilton accies. i think?

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  23. Oliver Reed
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    14 years, 10 months ago

    smelly fart

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      Where'ere ye be - let yer wind gae free ... - Billy Connolly

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
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      Just saw this from Mr Winter's Twitter. Pretty interesting statement

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        Interesting is the least of it - never known an organization of that size (or any other for that matter) to put out such a bizarre statement.

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  24. TO
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 10 months ago

    Can he take over arshavin/nasri's spot?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbkQ0niJ-lw&feature=related

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  25. TO
    • 16 Years
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    skip to 00:20 Best Goal?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FjKo3hEi7U

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  26. Lucas Leiva
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 10 months ago

    Dino (couldn't reply) - Gerrard hasn't been that successful for England, but if he hasn't who has in the past 15 years?

    We've never been able to get the best out of Gerrard at international level, but the same can't most definitely be said about Frank Lampard who has performed way under the level that Gerrard has for his country. Trying to make these two work for so many years could be why we haven't had the success that was expected from the 'golden generation'.

    I am a fan of Raul too, but even with Stevie at the age of 31 I think there absolutely no competition for who is the better player.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      Ah yes - but not many are a positive blight on the teams they play for, as Gerrard always is, and Fabregas is becoming ...

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      1. Lucas Leiva
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly. Like I said on page 2, Gerrard and Carragher are the heartbeats of Liverpool FC. They are irreplaceable and I could never imagine Stevie backing out of a challenge like I've seen Raul do this season. Why? because he loves the club and would do anything to see it back on top of the league, where we belong.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 10 months ago

          Good luck with that ... 😕

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          1. Lucas Leiva
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 10 months ago

            Well it would be rude for me not to wish you good luck in the championship then.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 16 Years
              14 years, 10 months ago

              Don't worry - we'll need it - we, at least, are not delusional ...

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              1. Lucas Leiva
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 10 months ago

                Neither am I mate, I didn't say we were going to win the league this year, next or the season after.

                But with new owners, King Kenny as the manager and the academy finally producing top quality players again, I am more positive than I have been for a long time about where the club is heading.

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                1. Shakey
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 10 months ago

                  Even when Damien Comolli is recklessly spending your money on vastly overrated players?

                  You're after Gael Clichy too!

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                  1. Lucas Leiva
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    Who is currently your player?

                    I'll worry about Clichy if/when we sign him.

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                  2. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    what player?

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                  3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
                    • 16 Years
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                    (Clichy)

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          • 15 Years
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          I thought he had a dreadful season last year,apart from just refusing to make any effort for Hodgson.

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      2. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        Fabs will leave, Gerrard is stuck where he is. Who else do you think will be big money movers?

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        1. BONZ
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 10 months ago

          Barca will not buy Fabregas after his poor season - if they got sense they'll take Mata off Valencia better value for a younger player?

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 10 months ago

            The Fabregas deal is looking unlikely because Arsenal aren't willing to sell him at Barcelona's valuation.

            Fabregas has done a good job to drive his own price down (intentionally or not) by saying he only wants to move to Barca, but I doubt Arsenal would deal for less than £45 mil.

            If he had said that he flat-out wants to leave, and would consider offers from Real or Man City, Arsenal would probably be receiving £60-£70 million bids.

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            1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 10 months ago

              I don't even think Barca want Fabregas this summer.

              Them saying theyre interested means he won't join another club, nor will he sign a new contract with Arsneal.

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    2. BONZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 10 months ago

      however the golden era would have benefited from better managers.....Lampard & Gerrard should have been excellent together (as the special cleary saw a value) but England should have played a holding central midfielder behind the duo.....

      When did England last have a real front pair?? They could have played the expansive 4-3-3 could have won the world cup, and SG and Fat Frank been real World Class International Players - whilst getting the best from Rooney!

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      1. Goose
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        😆

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 10 months ago

          Mob handed.

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      2. Lucas Leiva
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        I'd say our last great front 2 would be Rooney and Owen, but Rooney was very young and by the time he was old enough to be a senior player for us, Owen was past it, more so because of injuries than age.

        Back in 2006 would of been a great time to try out a 4-3-3...

        ----------Hargreaves-------
        -----Lampard-----Gerrard---
        -Beckham---Rooney---J.Cole-

        With Lennon able to replace Becks, but Hargreaves never really got another go for England (obvious injuries) so once again we were stuck with no real DM for Lamps & Gerrard for years.

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        1. BONZ
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 10 months ago

          I don't like him but Carrick seems to do OK for Man Utd? Scott Parker has been doing the job for years.....he hasn't just emerged. Gareth Barry seems to have played alot of games?

          So there have been players able to do it?

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          1. Lucas Leiva
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 10 months ago

            But Parker has been under the radar for years, only in the last couple of seasons have people really considered him a good player (since Charlton) Barry was played with Gerrard in a sort of 4-2-3-1 if I remember rightly?

            If I were to pick an England team tomorrow (no injuries) I wouldn't choose Lampard, his time has come and gone and would now rather Wilshere in the middle, with Gerrard. Parker did a good job v Wales but was poor v the Swiss a month or so after.

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            1. BONZ
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 10 months ago

              i was referring to the "golden era" of last decade.

              England team should have progressed alot more for these Euro-s after the shambles in World Cup under the stewardship of the Italian know it all.

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              1. Lucas Leiva
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 10 months ago

                Can't really disagree with that, we had the players to go far in a tournament, yet didn't get past the quarters once in the whole decade and didn't even qualify in '08.

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          2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 10 months ago

            Jones.... Phil Jones

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      3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 10 months ago

        +42- and then some!!! However Bonz, I don't think Gerrard's mind was ever on the England team ...

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        1. BONZ
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 10 months ago

          I just think alot of big players have under performed in England shirt for few reasons.....but IMO cheesed off playing out of position and lack of leadership from the limpdicked managers!

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 10 months ago

            The dressing room and the team spirit have been crap since the end of Erickson ...

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            1. Goose
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 10 months ago

              We are incredible in terms of no other country or team in the world has consistently had world class players since 1966 but had so many useless managers 🙄

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              1. Shakey
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 10 months ago

                How many more "bad managers" do we have to go through before someone asks whether its just the manager's fault.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 10 months ago

                  On the other hand - how do you rate Capello?

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                  1. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    50/50, I think he's made some mistakes, but I don't think those mistakes have been the main reason behind England's problems during his tenure.

                    People forgot that he quickly uncovered a formula that won the hardest World Cup qualifying group at a canter, yet that same formula began to fail him when the players returned to international duty for the World Cup a few months later.

                    I thought his decision to try and get Paul Scholes back was very intelligent, as he recognised that none of his other midfielders could pass a ball straight.

                    There's also this new thing about how he doesn't care any more, which I'm not sure how its proven. At the risk of sounding like DB, that appears to be the media throwing a tantrum because the doesn't care about them any more, or what they same about him.

                    He's a manager with a fantastic record at club level, who has got results almost everywhere he's gone.

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                  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    Two words. Team spirit.

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                  3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    He is a fantastic club manager but i think his authority is severley dimished in a national team role. He sees the squad what, once a month on average?

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                2. njfsdkffslkf
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 10 months ago

                  This.

                  Observer bias goose

                  You live in an environment where you support England and are told constantly its the best league in the world with World class players.

                  Its not. Objective viewing has confirmed this.

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    Object - subject. Heads - tails.

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                  2. Goose
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    The 🙄 was symbolising sarcasm DB, give me a bit more credit than that please!

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                  3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    Really? I believe there are plenty of 'world class' players playing in the PL. As for the best league in the world, Spain have the 2 best teams in the world but after that i think it isn't up to that much

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                  4. Shakey
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    In all fairness, Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney have all scored goals in the Champions League final. With Rio and the former of that lot both lifting the trophy. Ashley Cole was the best left back in the world for at least 5 years.

                    By 2010, Cole and Rooney were probably the only ones left worth of the tag, with Rooney's mind and body both failing him at the time, but in the latter half of the last decade, all of those players would have surely been rightly recognised as some of the worlds most accomplished footballers.

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                  5. njfsdkffslkf
                    • 16 Years
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                    Apologies goose

                    I too am guilty of this bias as in this incident 🙂

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                  6. AP
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                    This can all be sorted out quite easily without any of your respected opinions. Fifa team of the year 2005-2011. There are players from the premier league and from england, the end.

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                  7. njfsdkffslkf
                    • 16 Years
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                    id rather have a look at the teams international record. 🙂

                    Its the only one which matters.

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                3. Goose
                  • 16 Years
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                  Much easier to blame them when their foreign as well. Look at the managers we have had recently, no pedigree at all. Useless before and after England, oh wait...

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                  1. Granville
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                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    What about McClaren then, certainly not first choice and way out of his depth. Whilst Sven doted (wrongly) on Beckham, McClaren shooing out of Beckham was clearly pre-meditated to try and emulate Bobby Robson handling of Keegan when he started. It was pathetic and his authority was shot to pieces when he brought him back.

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                  2. Goose
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 10 months ago

                    I'm not saying their all perfect, but Jesus, how many times do we have to be poor in tournaments before we face facts that we just aren't that good. The expectation going into tournaments is ridiculous, my Mrs, who knows very little about football said something along the lines of, why are we always one of the favourites when we always go out in the Round 16 / Quarters. If u look at it simply that means we are between the 5th & 16th best team in world, that probably about right (nearer 16 than 5 too) the sooner we accept were not that great and are a top 10 team the better. I'm not saying we should settle for that, but currently that is what we are.

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