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10 July 2011 494 comments
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While most other Premier League clubs’ transfer targets are still the subject of idle tabloid speculation, Sunderland have wasted little time in restructuring their squad. Steve Bruce has completed nine deals in total during the close season, with this week’s double capture of Wes Brown and John O’Shea from his old club Manchester United the real headline-grabber thus far.

Sunderland’s defence proved a real source of frustration last season; the Black Cats picked up five clean sheets in seven games from the start of December (including a 3-0 win at Chelsea) and prompted plenty Fantasy investment, but their run-in saw the side subsequently record just another two clean sheets in the last sixteen fixtures. With enough points on the board early on ensuring relegation was never an issue, Bruce’s side seemed to switch off in the second half of the season and the capture of Brown and O’Shea will address this perceived mental fragility at the back.

The pair sign up on Wearside on undisclosed, four-year deals and the Sunderland boss, speaking after confirmation of both transfers, was clearly delighted:

“The one thing when I spoke to them repeatedly was how much they wanted to play, everything was positive. I think it sent out a little statement, if you like. It’s okay getting young boys from Man United, but to get two of them who’ve got nearly 850 appearances between them, I think it was a fair coup for us. They’ve both got a very, very good attitude as well.”

The Statistics

John O’Shea
The Irishman signed for Man United as a 17 year old from local club Waterford Bohemians. O’Shea made his debut in 1999 before heading off on loan to Bournemouth and Royal Antwerp, where he played a total of 25 games, scoring 1 goal.

Establishing himself in the United first-team in 2002-03, he played 30+ league games in four of the next five seasons but, as time has progressed, O’Shea’s role was more of a versatile squad member, capable of filling in when injury sidelined Sir Alex Ferguson’s first-choice options.

He’s subsequently made 30+ appearances in just one of the last four league campaigns, though with 32 appearances for United in all competitions last season, it’s clear he still had a role to play at Old Trafford. With both Da Silva twins, Rafael and Fabio, establishing themselves in Sir Alex’s thinking, O’Shea’s future game time was only going to diminish and the guarantee of first-team football on Wearside seems to have clinched the deal.

In total, the 30 year-old made 256 league appearances for United, scoring 10 goals, and has represented the Republic of Ireland on 70 occasions, scoring once.

Wes Brown
Brown was something of a prodigious talent; joining United’s football academy aged 12, he excelled as part of their youth side and signed full professional terms at the age of 17. Sir Alex was a huge fan early on, describing the player as “Without question, the best natural defender this club has had for years”.

In spite of such praise, Brown made 30+ league appearances in just one of his thirteen seasons at United, as a series of injuries blighted his Old Trafford career. With Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand at the heart of defence and Gary Neville at right-back, Brown slipped further behind in the pecking order as younger reinforcements were introduced to the squad.

Brown’s opportunities have lessened as the seasons have gone by, with just 33 league appearances in the last three seasons a reflection of his standing within the first-team squad. Ferguson’s emphasis on buying up defensive potential brought Chris Smalling to the club last season and with the ex-Fulham man performing admirably in his debut season, Brown’s chances were further limited. The arrival of Phil Jones from Blackburn last month only emphasised the need for the 31 year old Brown’s departure and, providing he stays injury-free, a move to Sunderland will give his career a new lease of life.

In total, Brown played 232 league games for United, scoring 3 goals. He played 23 times for England, scoring once, before retiring from international football last year.

The Prospects

Bruce’s drastic overhaul of the Sunderland squad looks set to give the side an entirely new look next season and their ability to gel quickly will be crucial. The top-level experience both Brown and O’Shea bring to the Black Cats should bolster the back-four considerably and the pair’s versatility in defence gives Bruce plenty options.

O’Shea, in particular, looks a nailed-on starter, with right-back the more likely starting berth. Phil Bardsley played 29 times at left-back last season and seems to have made the position his own, though he may find himself sidelined by the new arrivals. Brown could also fill the right-back role, with O’Shea moving left and Bardsley on the bench.

Sunderland’s multitude of central defensive options means that, alternatively, Brown could partner any one of Titus Bramble, Anton Ferdinand, John Mensah or Michael Turner in the heart of the back-four. Bruce has recently claimed he is happy with the balance of the squad but one or maybe two of his centre-halves will surely be moved on before the end of August. Pre-season line-ups will go a long way to revealing just how Sunderland’s first XI will evolve next season.

In terms of chalking up clean sheets, Sunderland recorded 13 last season, up from 7 in the 2009/10 campaign. Their total was just 1 less than Liverpool and only 2 behind Man United and Chelsea; the Fantasy potential is clearly there and if a streak of consistency can be found, their defensive options could definitely be worth considering. A Fantasy Premier League (FPL) starting price of around 5.0 should be expected for both O’Shea and Brown.

Further Reference

John O‘Shea stats

John O’Shea Wikipedia

Wes Brown stats

Wes Brown Wikipedia

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  1. Demí
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    Two legends.

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    1. Rasping Drive
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      You must be joking.

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      1. Demí
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        Come again?

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        1. Rasping Drive
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          You can't surely be putting them in the same bracket as Paul Scholes?

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          1. Demí
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            Obviously not.

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        +1

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  2. Fran
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    Any ideas at the moment which Sunderland players seem to be the best to get in FPL?

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    1. Demí
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      Sessegnon, Gyan, O'shea

      One or two of them look a good shout.

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      Hey Fran pleas do not fail this season. Stop with that many transfers and aim for top 10k.

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  3. Sasquatch
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    Good read as always SirP. Hopefully FPL won't go mad and price them too expensively.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      +42! 🙂

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  4. Marco Del Wattsio
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    Reckon 5 - 5.5 each.

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    1. Sasquatch
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      Yeah, my guess too.

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  5. dystopia.
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    ill take o'shea i reckon

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  6. Demí
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    Arsenal bidding 18m for Downing 😯

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    1. Shakey
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      Doubt it.

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      1. Demí
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        Wenger should do everything he can to get Mata this summer imo

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          Disagree. I think it wenger should absolutely sign downing & leave Mata for kenny. 🙂

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          1. Lucas Leiva
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            😀

            Have to agree with Champ on this one 🙂

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  7. Cosmos
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    Any news on when the FPL 2011/2012 season will be open for registration?

    I assume this should be sometime this coming week.

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    1. greghammer95
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      Come back this time next week, and it will be up.

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      1. Cosmos
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        Cool, cheers.

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    2. FPL Daniel
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      No fpl this year, didn't u heard.

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      1. Cosmos
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        Boom boom.

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    3. Lucas Leiva
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      Hoping it's tomorrow, there's a decent chance too.

      I'd say by wednesday 6pm it will be up for sure.

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  8. FPL Daniel
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    lads what do we think this transfer will reflect the prices on both O'Shea and Brown. If they were both in Utd and FPL was already opened they would have been more expensive 0.5 - 1m right? Or?

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    1. Cosmos
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      Reckon they will be 5.5m

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    2. Sasquatch
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      If they were still with Man Utd, I think they'd both be cheaper than last season;

      a) continued progress of the twins
      b) emergence of Smalling
      c) signing of Jones

      All spell less game time for both Brown and O'Shea if they stayed.

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      1. Demí
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        Agreed, Brown especially.

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  9. Sasquatch
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    I'm really starting to hate Steven Fletcher's face.

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  10. Bigo1
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    John Mensah is back to Lyon (they desperately try to sell him though)

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      turner and bramble will be first choice imo

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Bramble and Brown, imo.

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          He will play right back and will be injured most of the time. Bardsley is cover when he'll be injured and O'Shea will cover what ever is needed.

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  11. Lucas Leiva
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    I've officially gone FPL insane, had a dream about it last night 😆

    All of the matches were on TV, and I realised I hadn't entered my team, so I rushed downstairs but GW2 had just opened 🙁

    A little tip though - in the dream Ashley Cole got two goals, Gabby Agbonlahor got one and so did Michael Owen. So I suggest you get them all in your team for GW1 and captain Cole 😉

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      cashley is a good call. he'll celebrate having his wife back

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      1. Demí
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        yeah in the bedroom, not the football pitch.

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          mark my words. This season he is gonna play better.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Watch those ankles ...

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          2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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            I should hope so. Every time i saw him last season he was disappointing

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        2. Lucky_2010
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          +1 lol

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    2. Morrissey1986
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      Talking about Gabby he could prove a bargain next year. he has always been inflated I don't see it happening this year.

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      1. Get up ya bum
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        I think there will be at least 3 better/better value villa players though. Does mcleish still favour 4-4-2?

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  12. Morrissey1986
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    Leeds also close to agreeing season loan for England squad goalkeeper Dave Stockdale, who is extending Fulham contract.

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      I thought he was off to Swansea?

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      1. Get up ya bum
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        Swans just signed a keeper I think. Stockdale wasn't available when they went after him, now fulham have signed the Hungarian lad he'll be allowed out on loan.

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  13. In Like Flynn.
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    MMW, Did you get your Texaco sorted out?

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    1. Marco Del Wattsio
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      i just put a team in. will forget about after August the 13th when the reak game starts!

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      No. I haven't even received one email - even in reply. I shall probably give it a miss, I'm afraid ... 😡

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        🙁

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      2. In Like Flynn.
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        Did you get your registration confirmation e-mails?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          Nope.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
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            It sounds like your team didn't get in then. Maybe worth another whack at it. I have user and team confirmation emails.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              I have had 5 goes, so far ... I'm in some sort of cyber loop - that's why I'm so angry that they haven't replied ...

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                I hope you get it sorted,maybe they'll be working properly on Monday. I hope so,shame if you don't get in.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  I could use my alternative email addresses - but I refuse, on principle ... why don't they get a junior to reply to the fecking emails???

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  14. grob
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    Fulham won't let Stockdale go to Swansea,or any other Premier League club,as they can't include a 24 hour recall clause if they do,so he'll go on loan to a Championship club instead - Leeds maybe

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    1. Get up ya bum
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      Why would Leeds or anyone sign him with a 24 hour recall clause?

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      That's interesting Grob, I didn't know that was in the Prem rules. I think he'd make a good 1st choice keeper in the Championship. I'll keep an eye on him for my Texaco team maybe.

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  15. Dan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    I f*ckin hate Sundays, they are so depressingly boring.

    Would love FPL to start up again today!!

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    1. FPL Daniel
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      14 years, 9 months ago

      It won't start, not this year

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  16. Jordan.
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    been refreshing for 6 days now , cant believe the secrecy ,its like its a state secret pffffffff

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
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      Except nobody's sold it to the papers or given it to a foreign government. 🙂

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  17. Jonah
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    Think that Villa defenders are an excellent shout for clean sheets this year; I also think that Macleish will make it easy for us by picking a solid back 4 that won't be vulnerable to rotation. The only question will be we can get one of their regular starters with a price of 5.0 then I would probably go for them.

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    1. Dan
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      Collins should be 5.0 imo.

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      1. Jonah
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        1.0 million is a big drop for someone who got into triple figures last year. I would guess he'll be at 6.5.

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
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          getting into triple figures is no big achievement.

          Considering Aston Villa's defence wasn't as good last season as it was the season before, he'll go down in price. Certainly not up.

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
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            6.0 again I reckon

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          2. Jonah
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            Yes, sorry, I meant 5.5.

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    2. Demí
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      Agreed. Ciaran Clark is on my radar. He has the highest chance of coming in at 5m

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      1. Get up ya bum
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        Yeah I'm keen on him demi. Hopefully he won't lose his place to warnock.

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      2. FPL Daniel
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        I am not sure that Clark will get regular starts.

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      3. Louis Van Balls
        • 15 Years
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        Looking at him as well. I wonder if McLeish will bring in Dann and/or RJ.

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    3. Jonah
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      Luke Young, Clark and Warnock might all be players who, if they could cement a place, would be good value at 5.0.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
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        Alan Hutton could also be good value if transferred along with Given if they are priced for current clubs!

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          I must say no to Alan, he is liability.

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  18. FPL Daniel
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    I want rain on F1. Come on!!!!!!!

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    1. Get up ya bum
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      How long till it starts?

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      1. Boom!!!
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        already started...

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          Oops, cheers boom I'm on it 🙂

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          1. FPL Daniel
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            Hamilton trying to overtake Massa

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Have they crashed yet ... ?

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              1. FPL Daniel
                • 16 Years
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                not yet

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  😀

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                2. FPL Daniel
                  • 16 Years
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                  Hamilton and Button having a field day.

                  Hamilton fastest lap

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  19. Dave Bauer
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    God I'm sick of looking at Steven Fletcher.

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  20. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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    This F1 is coking boss....

    Thnk key areas up till gw10 are for fpl are villa keeper .. Villa def. A cole. PBS the rest

    silva cahill/Sinclair/ohara.... nzog/ albrigthon Dempsey malouda

    rvp bekford carol/ suarez

    not a rmt just players on my radar that couldlook summat like my 1st 11

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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      **** foking boss.... Jeeez

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    2. Louis Van Balls
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      I think it's way too early to be choosing a starting 11 as a lot of players will change teams before the window closes. Agree RVP is a must have though...

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  21. Dan
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    I don't see why everybody is getting their hopes up that it will start up again tomorrow? Surely Mark would have said something?

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    1. Louis Van Balls
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      Seems quite early to be starting tomorrow. I thought it would be August 1 or maybe a week before that.

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      1. Dan
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        Nah normally it starts the first week of July, but last year it was a little later (12th) because of the World Cup. So it should be out by now tbf.

        Mark would definitely know something though, so unless they just aren't telling him for any particular reason then I don't see it starting again before he announces the date.

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      2. PFOR
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        Nah mate this is late compared to other years.

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        1. Louis Van Balls
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          Really? OK fair enough. Maybe they are making the necessary rule changes that we are all craving...

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      3. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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        Would be great for cheaper transfrs it t'was 2moro

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        1. Louis Van Balls
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          Will prices change before GW1 deadline or are they set until then?

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          1. Dan
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            Set. Going by previous years, it should definitely be up no later than Tuesday unless they have suddenly changed it.

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          2. FPL Daniel
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            No price changes before GW 2.

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      4. FPL Daniel
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        Nahhhh 1st of August is to late.

        FPL Launch EPL Season Opener
        ------------------------------------
        12 July 2010 (around 1:35pm UK time) 14 August
        7 July 2009 (around 3:45pm UK time) 15 August
        4 July 2008 (around 4:00pm UK time) 16 August
        6 July 2007 (around 9:35am UK time) 11 August
        9 July 2006 (around 1:00am on the 10th of July UK time???) 19 August

        Very informative. Any day now.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          😀 Well ... you keep saying that, but ... 😉

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          1. FPL Daniel
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            I became a pessimist honestly. Who knows when/will open!!! Fed up waiting.

            I believe one of the scouts should post only informative is it soon, this week, next week, next month or few days????

            Arhhhhh.....@@@@@ 🙂

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Ditto. 🙂

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            2. Dan
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              Last year Mark posted the date 3 days before, on the 9th.

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              1. FPL Daniel
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                Cause Reeson posted here, that's why. Reeson gave us the info first, not Mark

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                1. Dan
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                  Oh, hopefully it will just randomly update tomorrow or Tuesday then.

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                  1. Louis Van Balls
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                    I'm not sure about my squad yet, but I am keen to see the prices.

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                  2. FPL Daniel
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                    The prices are bread and butter of this game 🙂

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        2. Dan
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          Yup.

          One thing I do want them to change is the background, I hated last years with the darker green pitch. I preferred it when it was like this....

          http://antoniofarinha.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fantasy-premier-league-11-august.jpg

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          1. PFOR
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            +1, looked better that year.

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            1. FPL Daniel
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              Not with SEB in the team 🙂

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            2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Hmmm - I prefer it now ...

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              1. Louis Van Balls
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                don't really care about the background - wonder what changes they will actually make to help the FPL wily veterans.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Nothing can help me, I'm afraid ... 😀

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  22. Louis Van Balls
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    Chelsea...Arsenal...City...Spurs - none of them have done anything in ther transfer market yet. How can you choose a team when these clubs are yet to make transfers?

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    1. Sasquatch
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      Quite easily I find 😛

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    2. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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      Still think tried and tested prem players only in teams if pos

      see what you mean but those are the types of players and price spreading I am thinking of

      if Chico starts season and ain't rested then will get if sub 9

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  23. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    How I hate F1 these days ...

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    1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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      It's better than most tv on a sun though mmw

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    2. Boom!!!
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      why?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        I am totally offpissed by the personalities involved ...

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        1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
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          You miss the sterling moss days mmw? ; )

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Now, don't be cheeky, young man! 😉

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            1. RASPUTIN - the foking bom t…
              • 15 Years
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              Ha ha.. More being sarky as I don't fully get what you mean. Thought f1 has always had upper crust.. No?

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 9 months ago

                I find Mr Hamilton a complete excrescence, while Vettel is very little better. I have always disliked Schumacher. The last one I really liked was Damon Hill - and I had met his father at Kyalami, along with Jim Clarke - quite a day, that! As to upper crust ... I'm not sure ...

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  24. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Webberrrrrrrrrrrr

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  25. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    What would people think if FPL closed it's doors?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      So be it, if they close, their call we'll find another game. But it is big business to them, I don't think that they will call it off.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I don't see why they would Morrissey,they must be making a fair amount of profit from it. If they did, I would just do other FF competitions which I'm doing anyway.

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    3. Louis Van Balls
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      It's only July 10. Settle down people...

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Easy to say mate

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          There always has been more than month difference between FPL date and PL date, so 13th July Wednesday is the final possible day I imagine.

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      2. Morrissey1986
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        No the reason I say is because they don't update there twitter page nearly as much anymore. I would miss FPL. It's probably one of the best dream teams I played.

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          TBH I think there are better formats. Their site is the best. A bit too much luck built into it for my taste.

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          1. Louis Van Balls
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            Agree with you Flynn. They just make it too easy to get points but want to make it fun for newcomers. I like the ESPN soccernet game but the interface sucks and it's a bit boring tbh. But you only get 30 transfers per season and there are no bonus points etc. making it tough to get points.

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      What I really want is for someone to get The Guardian game up and running again - it was awesome!!!

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      1. Benzemabob
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        i agree, really good interface as well. Only thing was it was too easy to make money from your players. think i finished up with a teeam value of £137 million!

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      2. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        +42,000,000 Which is like a million of us,all knowing where our towel is. It was my favourite version.

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    1. Louis Van Balls
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      not to rain on your parade but I jus tread that Arsenal have made a bid for Downing. Oh no Arsene...

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  26. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Alonso wins it

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Bah! Another pratt!!! 😡

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  27. AP
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Downing? Arsenal? Eh?!

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I would prefer Mata

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Most gooners would

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      2. Waldaz
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        No shit 😉

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    2. Shakey
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I reckon it's an agent leaking it to try to get Liverpool to up their bid.

      Downing wants to go, Liverpool aren't offering enough. Makes sense to play that game.

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      1. Louis Van Balls
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        15m pounds for Downing isn't enough? The world has gone mad!

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    3. TommyK
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      Just the sort of signing needed to keep cesc/nasri.....

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  28. Dan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    This site is going to be crazy if it isn't up by Wedesnday.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      No point of asking about FPL starting anymore. But up to Wednesday must be. This is the latest ever opened, having in mind the start date of PL.

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  29. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 9 months ago

    Why is everybody so down on Downing? 😯 I really like him as a player, and I think he has matured hugely this last season. I think I prefer him to Ashley Young ... 😀

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    1. Louis Van Balls
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      If Wenger gets Downing and loses Fabregas and NAsri, Gooners fans will go on a rampage of epic proportions!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        I can see that - but the question seems to me to be, that Nasri and Fabregas have been a problem for a season already - so what's he supposed to do?

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        1. Louis Van Balls
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          How about step down? This little 'project' of his has failed and it's time for plan B.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 9 months ago

            Be careful what you wish for ...

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    2. Shakey
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 9 months ago

      I don't think he was bad at Villa last season. he's found his level though, I wouldn't think he'd be good any higher up. He's certainly not the kind of player Arsenal need right now.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        agreed. good player for villa

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        I respectfully don't agree that he's found his level. I do agree that Arsenal have other problems.

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      3. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        I prefer him as an fpl prospect in my initial team in Villa shirt. It could be fire and forget signing.

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        1. super zlatan
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 9 months ago

          If downing stays at villa he will be a great fantasy prospect. Earmarking him and bent for my gw1 team I think

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      4. PFOR
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 9 months ago

        Agree with that. Bent is the same.

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