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16 July 2011 1632 comments
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Liverpool have completed their fourth signing of the summer with the £20m capture of Stewart Downing from Aston Villa on a long-term deal. Having had a £15m bid for the winger knocked back last week, Kenny Dalglish wasted little time in returning with an improved offer and with Villa giving the club permission to speak to the player on Thursday, the deal reached a speedy conclusion, following weeks of media speculation.

Downing joins Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Alexander Doni in arriving at the club this last few weeks and continues the major rebuilding process undertaken since Dalglish replaced Roy Hodgson back in January. Liverpool’s Director of Football, Damien Comolli, shared his thoughts on the transfer:

“We needed that pace and wide player that can bring us something extra, which we did not have in the squad. He has the right mentality, the right attitude and was absolutely committed to coming to us, so we are delighted.

He is a big, big signing for us. When we have Andy up front, he can put those balls in, but also he’s got more than that. We look thoroughly into data and statistics before signing players and we really think we are bringing a big, big asset into our team.”

Downing also spoke to the club’s official website upon completion of the transfer:

“It’s a great feeling and I’m very happy to be here. With the tradition, the manager and the players they have here, there was a big temptation to come here and once I knew of their interest, there was only one place I wanted to go.

‘It will be a great feeling to run out at Anfield. When I wanted to come to Liverpool, it was the first thing I thought of – playing at Anfield in front of those great fans. I’m really looking forward to it.”

The Statistics

A graduate of Middlesboro’s Academy, Downing debuted for his hometown club back in April 2002, though a failure to establish himself in the first-team meant he played just six games in his first two seasons. Loaned out to Sunderland in 2003-04, he made 7 appearances and scored 3 goals before injuries at the Riverside saw him recalled.

Resultantly given a run of games to nail down a starting place, Downing grabbed his opportunity and became a regular starter for Boro, staying with the club until the end of a doomed 2008/09 season that saw them relegated to the Championship. In total, he played 171 league matches for Middlesboro, scoring 17 goals and making 17 assists.

Snapped up by Martin O’Neill for Aston Villa in the summer of 2009, Downing, upon recovering from a broken foot, proved to be a key player for the Midlands outfit. Over the past two campaigns the winger has played 63 league games, scoring 9 and assisting 9 goals, with last season’s returns of 7 goals and 3 assists indicative of his growing influence on the side. He’s also played 22 times for England, picking up 3 assists.

The Prospects

The addition merely adds to the currently congested midfield but, as the weeks progress, departures are likely to start filtering out of Anfield and a clearer picture will emerge of Dalglish’s intentions.

Joe Cole and Milan Jovanovic seem certain to leave and with Raul Meireles and Maxi Rodriguez both linked with moves away from Liverpool, Downing’s prospects as a first-team option perhaps look greater than both fellow new-boys Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson, with less competition for a left wing role than in the centre and wide right.

Another factor here is that Downing’s arrival brings yet another set-piece taker to Liverpool; Henderson was number one for Sunderland corners, Adam took, well, everything for Blackpool and Downing shared corner kicks with Ashley Young. Downing took 93 corners last season but, with Steven Gerrard also added to the mix, he’s likely to lose that part of his game.

Downing’s crossing will bring a crucial extra element to Liverpool’s play, however, which may help the club bring the best out in Andy Carroll. Last season, Downing made 51 successful crosses, third best in the league behind Leighton Baines and Nani. With just 15, Raul Meireles was best Liverpool midfielder, a clear indication of the side’s inefficiency from the flanks.

This lack of quality aerial supply meant Carroll’s effectiveness in the air suffered; he won 62% of aerial duels at Newcastle but just 46% at Liverpool. For as much as Downing’s delivery has been talked about as the key to Carroll’s effectiveness, in terms of Fantasy perspective, Carroll may prove the answer to unlocking Downing’s potential; Downing made a total of 243 crosses last season and picked up just 3 assists- Carroll’s ability to turn those crosses into goals could considerably boost Downing’s assists and propel him into our Fantasy thinking as Dalglish looks for a top-four finish this time round.

The knock-on effect at Villa Park brings Marc Albrighton further into the picture, with the youngster currently Villa‘s only first-team right winger. New boss Alex McLeish must move to strengthen his options on both flanks, though, and has been strongly linked with Wigan’s Charles N’Zogbia. The Frenchman is likely to play on the left, though Gabby Agbonlahor’s adaptability may influence Big Eck’s thinking here. Set-pieces are also up for grabs, with the club now bereft of their two main takers from last season and N’Zogbia would be nailed-on favourite if he makes the move to the Midlands.

McLeish is notoriously defensive-minded and much will depend on his favoured formation. Last season he fielded a 4-4-2 on twenty occasions but Birmingham’s other eighteen games saw them play with just one forward up top. Five in the midfield could even bring forgotten man Stephen Ireland into the equation, with the player positive of his chances of becoming a key member of the Villa side under the new regime.

Further Reference

Stewart Downing Wikipedia

Stewart Downing Stats

Stewart Downing Goals and Assists 2010/11

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  1. Demí
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    Argentina XI:- Romero; Zabaleta, Burdisso, G Milito, Zanetti; Mascherano, Gago; Messi, Di Maria, Aguero, Higuain

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    1. Waldaz
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      So early?

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      1. Demí
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        Yeppers 8)

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    2. applebonkers
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      that front 4 is sick! good sick

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      1. Demí
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        meh, it's ok

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  2. Attila the Bum
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    I like Downing, think he'll do well for Liverpool.
    So hard to predict their lineup for FPL though, like Man Utd I might give them a few weeks to see what the established forward line will be.

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    1. Seanigula
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      he would seem to be one of the safer bets

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    2. gooner dave
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      Whos your early shouts for your lads Attila? Reckon I'll be looking at ba,Barton,Enrique(if hes still there obv)

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Hmmm Ben Arfa if he gets through pre-season ok, Ba should be a good cheapie if we don't sign another forward (if he is around 5 he'd be in my side). Cabaye if you want a bit of a gamble, I think he might be on set pieces for us (again the pre-season games will let us know).
        Defender wise, I've been strongly considering rotating a Newcastle defender (S.Taylor or Enrique if he stays) with a 5under1and defender, but although the fixtures rotate perfectly, the home fixture is often pretty damned difficult. So not sure now.

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        1. Gargamel
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          Gives me great memories from last season when I rotated Jara and Jose Enrique. It was GREAT.

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            Jara. hahaha I had him briefly too, he was much championed by eld Jamsie P as well.
            The most I got from the useless git was 1 point.

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            1. Gargamel
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              Here's what it looked like

              http://picasion.com/i/1iArp

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        2. gooner dave
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          Nice one cheers.

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      2. applebonkers
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        was looking at barton last night. last season he got 131 points yet was only 4.8mil by the end. amazing value and i'm annoyed i let my thoughts (irrelevent thoughts fpl wise) about him never make me consider him.

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        1. Attila the Bum
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          He was in and out of my side, kept missing his big scores though!
          Not sure if he will repeat his big points haul if a lot of the set pieces are taken off him.

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          1. applebonkers
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            i reckon he could compensate for it in open play in nolan's absence. if he's with tiote and cabaye he'll get a bit more licence to get forward. shame he wont be 4.5 again.

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        2. gooner dave
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          Served me so well last season that I've a bit of a soft spot for him, going to have to repay that pointage at some time this season.

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    3. Kuqi Monster
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      agree, won't be in my team GW1 but think he will do well for liverpool, atilla whats this I hear about crowd trouble with toon fans at darlington?

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Yeah just in from work and internet was down last night so not heard much. A fella was taking the piss about it today though, so will look it up.

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          1. AP
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            Northerners. Tsk.

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            1. Attila the Bum
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              Shush ya southern fairy

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          2. Kuqi Monster
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            stupid idiots

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    4. GREENDREAMS11
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      alright there Attila

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        Evening GD, hows it going?

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
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          am fine thanks, just hangin round like a bad smell waiting for the games to commence, nice catchin up on here again although i need to concentrate a bit more on my social attributes 😛

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  3. AP
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    Right... i'm going to start a bandwagon. BENAYOUN AKA GNEV WITH AIDS!

    Who's with me?

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    1. applebonkers
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      did you see his goal the other day?

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      1. AP
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        I did indeed, although it struck me as a bit flukey tbh, like he wasn't quite sure what was happening.

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        1. applebonkers
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          yeah definitely a bit of fluke involved. added to the ridiculousness of the goal, ridiculously amazing

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    2. Shakey
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      Good nickname, bad bandwagon.

      It's all about the Duffmobile.

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      1. AP
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        Sounds like we've got ourselves a bandwagon off.

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        1. gooner dave
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          I'll see your bandwagon's and raise you a bendy bus. Obv If he goes to another pl team.

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            I'm going for the Riise Pudding*

            *sorry t'was the best attempt at a Riise pun I can manage

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            1. TheHazard
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              It's unRiisenable to get one out of a name like that

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            2. GREENDREAMS11
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              aye, you could eat that Witherspoon. 😛

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            3. Shakey
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              you're not exactly Riiseing the tone with puns like that.

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              1. TheHazard
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                Well there's Norway anyone's going to top that

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
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                  it was all pretty sensible in here, the attila arrives 😛

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                2. applebonkers
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                  😆

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                3. Attila the Bum
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                  Bravo 🙂
                  The cream always Riises to the top

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                4. Shakey
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                  lol

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                5. applebonkers
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                  the more northern you are the better that works. and there's nowt wrong with that

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                  1. TheHazard
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                    Tbf, I've been Craven some pun action over the summer.

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                  2. Attila the Bum
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                    Cor Bellamy. Gibbs me a Blake.

                    I'm Sorensen, but that joke's a Given. Zamora you go on with this Zamora I'm Keane to Stech a hot Reo-Coker Upson your Carlton Cole and Insua your Pantsil be Whelan Toure on fire.

                    So there.

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                  3. TheHazard
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                    😆

                    I think it's time to stop before this gets, err, Messi.

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                  4. Attila the Bum
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                    All Wright
                    🙂

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                  5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    OK Attila - I think you win ... 😀

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                  6. applebonkers
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                    when it comes to puns TheHazard definitely has a clint in his eye. and if i could buy attila a beer for his efforts i would. what beer? a duff of course

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              2. applebonkers
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                not having that, no way that counts!

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  Some good work here, guys! 😆

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                  1. applebonkers
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                    apart from this: "Riiseing the tone"
                    sorry MF but that's a shocker

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                  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    😆 True dat!!!

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                  3. Attila the Bum
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                    😆

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  4. GREENDREAMS11
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    just checked Andy. it is 110k he's asking for now

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  5. GREENDREAMS11
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    then, even

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  6. GREENDREAMS11
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    i have to say that i thought Gutierrez was starting to look really good last season ( not necessarilly from an FPL point scoring point of view) but could also be worth consideration this year.

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    1. Attila the Bum
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      Nah wouldn't go for him myself GD. Firstly his position is under threat from both Ben Arfa and Marveaux (though I think he will still play the majority as a left winger).
      Plus he doesn't take set pieces and simply doesn't score or assist enough. Like him but not for FPL.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
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        i kinda think he's not quite there from an FF point of view but is one of those players who seems to be improving a lot. I think your mate Joey might come into the reckoning this year. Will be keeping a close eye on the Toon this year as I didn't have any of their players last year and missed out on a lot of good points.

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  7. Hybrid.power
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    I am never drinking tequila again. Walking home from the pub I climbed over a spiked fence into someone's garden and fell asleep right there on the grass. The girlfriend was not impressed when I finally got home.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Bloody Hell! 😯 Are you alright? Wine ftw ...

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  8. vova
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    Guys, will i be right to consider that MLS is low scoring?

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    1. applebonkers
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      not sure but i'd say it a very even league and therefore hard to bet on, although you might get better odds as a result

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  9. O Fenomeno
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    Dirk Kuyt looks like he is sporting Simon Cowell style shorts in that link with the kits.

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  10. Seal
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    someone tell wenger to stop moaning, it used to be funny but now its just boring and repetative.
    he's a stereotypical old man in his old age, always complaining 😛

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      I feel a strange camaraderie ... 😉

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  11. Oliver Reed
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    fuk me these fajitas are hot. doing a can of cider every one at the minute. feel the burn..

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    1. O Fenomeno
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      Milk is the way to go to combat hot food my friend.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        This ^^^!

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        1. Demí
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          +42 😉

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      2. Oliver Reed
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        cider worked pretty well to be fair 🙂

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  12. O Fenomeno
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    Good first half in Meath game PFOR. Meath need a goal.

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  13. Sasquatch
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    Breaking news from Goodison; EVERTON GET PARKER!

    Moyes thanks Kenwright for his new pen.

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    1. O Fenomeno
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      😆 You little scamp!

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      😛

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    3. TheHazard
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      1/10.

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      1. O Fenomeno
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        I would give him a 6/10

        Your a tough marker.

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        1. TheHazard
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          Yep, I've got high standards.

          You're, but the way 🙂

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          1. Shakey
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            by* 😛

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            1. TheHazard
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              Haha!

              I'll get my coat.

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            2. Attila the Bum
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              🙂

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              1. TheHazard
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                If there's any scouts around, can we get this whole mess deleted? Much appreciated 😆 😳

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  14. O Fenomeno
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    If I had known the Spain U 20 basketball team were this good I would have put all my money on them!

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      You got any bets that havent started yet?

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      1. O Fenomeno
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        Yeah I sure do.

        Cortiba to beat Fluminese
        Seattle to beat Colorado
        I need Vasvo da Gama to win as part of double with Rapid Vienna

        I also have a very risky double Gremio Prudente v Icasa: Home win @ 4/7
        Salgueiro PE v Criciuma: Away win @ 15/8
        starting in a few.

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      2. O Fenomeno
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        You got anything on?

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        1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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          Have a few in the golf, got on Fowler early but thats my only real hope. Cheers.

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        2. applebonkers
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          this comment looks so good in the recent comments section, i.e out of context

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            😀
            Haha

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  15. vova
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    Chivas USA vs NY Red Bulls less than 2.5 goals @ 1.81 good bet?

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  16. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Another glass of Garganega ... 😀

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    1. applebonkers
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      me too, but just one glass http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1135/933322590_2e08df642a.jpg

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      1. TheHazard
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        I think they call that one the 'Merson'

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        1. applebonkers
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          a man of excesses but a brilliant footballer and my kind of soccer saturday panel guy

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      😆 That's too much - even for me!!! 😆

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  17. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    India 138 for 8 ... sad that Strauss won't need to bat again ... 😉

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    1. Demí
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      Indeed 🙁

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    2. O Fenomeno
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      When the bowler hits the player with the ball are they out?

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      1. Egg noodle
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        this makes me sad.

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
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        Google "bodyline ashes"

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      3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        No - it's a beamer ...

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  18. Casper
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    Moan, moan, moan, who else could it be, Wenger, 'building for the future' 6 years ago, now? It is the future, oh were still building he says. Full of it, why can't people see it, maybe Arsenal fans do, and choose to ignore, I'll be surprised at a top 4 finish this time round

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    1. Oliver Reed
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      after the first 7 words of that paragraph, i could have answered 'my mrs'

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    2. Shakey
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      Why would Arsenal be worse off? because we've sold Gael Clichy?

      It's quite obvious Arsenal don't have the money to build for the now like Chelsea or Man City or even United if the Glazers allow it. I really don't know what you expect him to do.

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      1. Seanigula
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        but they seem to keep spending money on positions they already have covered...and it seems to take the least money of all to improve the defense

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        1. Shakey
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          The transfer window has only been open two weeks. Arsenal have bought two players, Man City have bought two players, Chelsea have bought one, Sp*rs have bought no one at all.

          Only United and Liverpool have really spent, and in the latter's case, unwisely.

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          1. Seanigula
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            agree, we'll see what they do...

            ...I just have this feeling that they'll lose Fab and Nasri at the end of the window and scramble to fill those 2 places

            I just think that Wenger doesn't really believe that there is a problem with the defense, he thinks it was just bad luck with injuries and it will coreect itself

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            1. Shakey
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              Oh if Fabregas and Nasri go right at the end of the window all hell will break lose, and I'd a lot more pessimistic about Arsenal's situation.

              I'm not sure about Wenger not thinking there's a problem. He has admitted the side needs taller players, and have to improve on defending set-pieces.

              Other than set plays, we're not that bad defensively.

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    3. Jordan.
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      still the best team to watch in full flow by far.....

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    4. Philman
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      Every year folks are surprised if Arsenal make top 4, and then they get blasted for not winning. Bet they do finish top 4.

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      1. Shakey
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        Start of the season: "Arsenal are crap. They've sold players, not bought anyone [who we've heard of] and still haven't bought a goalkeeper/defender/defensive mid/target man. They're going to finish outside the top 4."

        End of the season: "Arsenal are crap. They didn't win the league, only finished 3rd, didn't win a domestic cup and were knocked out of the Champions League by Barcelona."

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        1. Shakey
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          3rd/4th**

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    5. Gargamel
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      So you are claiming that now is the future?

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        • 15 Years
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        Where's all the f*cking robots?

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          no flying cars either. not good enough.

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  19. O Fenomeno
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Nice start for Criciuma!

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Cancelled out already 😆

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  20. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    staggered by the fact that nobody seems to know anyone who works at fpl towers ,consequently theres no leaking of information and we remain in the dark,or are they operating from a cave somewhere in pakistan and nobody can get at them....

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    1. Seanigula
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      "FPL Towers" is probably more like the 2 guys in the basement on IT Crowd...and Richmond does the bonus points

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      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        but them 2 guys must know someone who likes football and they must know someone else,and one of them must discuss FPL could be the most secret society in the country its just plain weird.

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        😆 This just might be true ...

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  21. SaintMatt
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Test

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    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      icle

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  22. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    went to a tinkering anonymous meeting today ,176,000 people there all looked forlorn but looked on the way to being cured ,lack of FPL means people are gradually reentering society ,i myself spent nearly 7 hours away from f5 button when i got home but have since lapsed and drew up a sun team ,but its like non acholic lager just no substitute *my name is jordan i tinker*

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  23. Casper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Arsenal ain't 'crap' far from it lovely to watch for anyone who likes football, and I know they don't have the resources of a Chelsea or Man C, tell me I'm mistaken here but they were building for the future 6 years ago! when exactly is that future?? As for a top 4. well I'll hapilly comeback end of season and hold my hands up to being wide of the mark, somehow I don't think I will be, usually have them top 3, just not this time

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Like going to the Prom with your stunning sister, doesn't matter how beautiful she is if you can't score.

      This "Arse play the beautiful game" shtick is the oldest, tired-est, lame-est line. Ever.

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      1. Busterroo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Nicely put King Eric, lmao

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Spoken like a true glory supporter, more like.

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      3. Shakey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        All this doesn't mean Arsenal are going to drop out of the top 4, does it?

        Conversely, United fans seem to get most bitter about that line about Arsenal playing the best football.

        To carry on the fit girls metaphor, United would be the guy who scores the most, but can't seem to pull the previously mentioned stunning sister.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Sure, I'm a United guy. Let's put that in a box and set it over there, OK?

          Now: Would the Gooners in attendance truly say that Arsenal have a *good* shout at the league this year? I'd wager even you guys are getting a bit tired of what's happening at the club. I admire Wenger's style - but he neither coaches at Barca nor has Barca's purse. He should adapt his style/recruitment accordingly and Arse would be the more successful for it.

          And style of play is subjective; I never said Arse 'sucks', I said that I hate the "everyone who loves footy must love Arse's style" line. Honestly, watching a United team in full flight on the counter is a beautiful thing. To me.

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          1. Gargamel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            This is why the United v Arsenal rivalry is my favourite one. It's seems a bit like if both sets of fans kind of like what they have, but they're also not really happy with the fact that plenty of fans like what the other side have. I do love it.

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            1. Marknlard
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              You're definitely in the right place for it then, Garg. One comes past every 10 minutes.

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            2. Twisted Saltergater
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Agreed, Gargamel ;-). It must get right up the nostrils of United fans that they're not recognised as the best footballing side in the Premiership. Counter balance that with a growing minority(?) of Arsenal fans that are losing patience with Wenger and the lack of winning things, and you have quite the cocktail.

              As a neutral, it's easy to admire the way Arsenal play and have that to look forward to each season. You have to admire United too, but it's more a consequence of their mental strength than their style - SAF makes them winners.

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              1. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Funny thing, maybe it's my 'American' showing, but style comes a distant second to substance in sports, IMO.

                As a United supporter, I don't 'need' United to be 'recognized' as anything but successful. Would I like them to be Barca? Sure. Would I want them to tippy-tappy throughout the midfield only to be constantly c*ckblocked in the final third - and then defend it by saying they look pretty when they play. Ha! No.

                It's disturbing, though, that I have to remind that the beautiful game necessarily includes scoring the beautiful goals. And, sometimes, winning the ugly games. Arsenal haven't done that, in some time. Until they get 'it' back, the 'beauty game' comment rings hollow and a bit sad.

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                1. Gargamel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  I absolutely understand your reasoning but I do think that many United fans do feel the need to be recognized as other things than successful.

                  To be honest it seems to annoy the hell out of many Manchester United fans that Arsenal get as much credit as they do even when they don't win things. Compare it to how United fans for example seem to not care at all about Chelsea, even if they win more stuff than Arsenal.

                  On a personal level I feel that Arsenal and Manchester United both are the teams that have played the best football in England if you look over the last 10 years or so. They've been the most proactive teams and the ones most wanting to win by attacking.

                  I bet in 15 years (when they're both at least 125 years old Wenger and Ferguson will look back and say 'We taught the rest how to play, didn't we?'

                  Look

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                  1. King Eric, in America
                    • 15 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Absolutely agree with paragraph 3 there.

                    Garg, you should work at the UN ... top-shelf diplomat, you are 🙂

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          2. Shakey
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            So you're saying if Arsenal played less aesthetically pleasing football that they'd win things? I don't buy into that at all.

            Arsenal's problem is mental fragility, with set-pieces an smaller issue too.

            It doesn't matter if you play tiki-taka or kick and rush, if group like Arsenal's current crop take a mental body-blow, the whole thing falls apart.

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            1. Seanigula
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              "Arsenal’s problem is mental fragility"...that is it exactly, they lack a certain toughness, they are too "French"

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                They need Joey Barton. He'll put a bit of steel in their fancypants midfield.

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            2. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Actually, or more specifically, what I meant was that Wenger 'could' keep his style, if he were to drop 80-100 mil, and win, and win beautifully.

              Barring that, they could spend much less if they sought a team of more modest aims; i.e. to win. Clearly set pieces, defense, DM, are areas that, if shored up correctly, would make a world of difference.

              They wouldn't have to play a, say, Bolton style ... but sacrificing some style for steel wouldn't hurt, either. They were a flippin' Birmingham City from a trophy. Yes, mental toughness.

              Fact is, I wasn't really maligning Arse ... I was maligning the "style" statement.

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      4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Somehow, this really tickles my fancy ... 😀

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    2. SaintMatt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You're all talking horse shit. Let's just put it into perspective. As it stands, Arsenal have only lost an exceptionally over-rated Gael Clichy to the side that did so well for a substantial period of the season last year.

      Wenger has also added a very shrewd signing in Gervinho and just because he isn't english and no the most well known, I see absolutely no reason to doubt Wenger's eye for foreign talent, especially if he is spending 11 million on him.

      Let's also not forget that if they do happen to sell Fabregas, they will have 40 million to spend and let's also take into consideration the fact that that arsenal happened to beat the champions last year, and if i remember rightly that was without him.

      I'm not saying for one minute they're likely to win the title, far from it, but to say that they definitely won't finish top four is just downright stupid.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Horse sh*t is exceptionally good for roses ...

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        1. Bubbles
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Must remember that. Present a lady with some roses and horse shit. If she doesn't approve then she's just damn ungrateful. 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Hahaha - make sure the roses have some roots on them! 😆

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  24. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    still no closer to finding out thr fpl start date then?

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  25. Casper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Next week hopefully ninja, got a squad of 45 here, waiting for prices!

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  26. Casper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    True King Eric, winnings the name of the game, 20 coming up?

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Definitely.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I hate those kind of predictions ... of course I'd *love* for #20 to happen, and I think they're obviously within a shout, Chelsea are there, City's a certain possibility (damn my fingers for typing that).

      The transfer season is, what, about 1/3 over? Much can happen there to change things ... injuries, scheduling, whether Chelsea cancels another game 3 weeks ahead of time because they're fearful of high winds -- it all adds to the uncertainty.

      I'd paint a face on my arse and walk backwards for a month if Arsenal win, however. [*likely sound of buggu-marks by the dozens*]

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      1. Taribo West on a free
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        No chance Liverpool then?

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        1. Seanigula
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I don't see Liverpool doing it if another team really has a great season. If many stuggle at times like last season then I could see Liverpool being closer to the top.

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        2. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          A true wildcard, 'Pool. Kenny could (continue) to be a talisman like SAF at United, and they could 'punch above their weight'

          I left 'Pool out simply because I'm not brave enough to predict.

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  27. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    SuperDunny's pre tournament tip of Ricky Fowler is looking good. Sounds like he should be in EastEnders, glad the rain killed his annoying hair.
    COME ON CLARKEY! 🙂

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    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol

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    2. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      had 16 score ew on dustin this morning laid back 100 @2 on betfair shud make 200 either way if hes top 4 ..go on dustin.

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  28. TheHazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone watching the boxing?

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    1. Busterroo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i am now, cheers. Anyone good fighting tonight?

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      1. TheHazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        yeh, really good card as it goes.

        Bellew Mckenzie now at Light Heavy - McKenzie stoked things up by saying Bellew used steroids for their first fight.

        Ricky Burns v Nicky Cook is a WBO world title fight at super-featherweight

        John Murray vs Nicky Cook could be the pick of them, lightweight for a WBO intercontinental belt (not much of a title tbf)

        Also, Frankie Gavin is fighting Curtis Woodhouse (ex pro footballer)

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  29. Casper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Noted Jimenez, who cares if you beat Man U , WIN the title NO, League cup final win the cup, NO, just what has that team of wonderful footballers won?? JACK I don't talk horseshit and ain't stupid

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Learning to use the reply button would strengthen your case! 😉

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      1. SaintMatt
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Just about to say that.....

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    2. Shakey
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      "I don’t talk horseshit and ain’t stupid"

      the random collection of nouns in your previous sentence doesn't exactly strengthen that point.

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  30. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    UCD just beat Villareal 4-3!!

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Wow. Odds of that were above 9/1.

      Overall playing the underdogs at home in the friendlies over the last days must have been massively ev+, I've seen so many goodish teams lose to lesser teams away.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Couldnt find the market on PP, wouldnt have backed it anyway. Wish I went in, only found out about it at 6 but couldnt get a lift in time.

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    2. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Damn wish I would have gone now. Villareal just signed one of my favourite Football Manager players too (Zapata) 🙂

      Fancy a game of clubs in a mo?

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Jaysus, we couldve been sitting beside each other 😉 Maybe a bit later, Im not that bothered too play right now 😛

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    3. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      They only played in the league last night too! Impressive effort.

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        The drogs beat UCD 8)

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