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19 August 2011 1262 comments
Mark Mark
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Nothing changes. One Gameweek down and a section of us are already berating the Fantasy Premier League bonus points, questioning their award – venting frustration that the shining performances of our own players have been ignored.

We had such high hopes; the inclusion of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index as the system that powered the bonus awards was expected to offer clarity – to reward those players who obviously stood out over 90 minutes. However, perhaps that’s an unrealistic goal; perhaps there always be a section of us destined for despair when the bonus is dished out.

From the evidence of Gameweek one, it’s clear that our love/hate relationship with the FPL bonus could very well continue – the Saturday night bafflement transferred to Monday morning, when this season’s statistically powered points arrive. Time will tell.

Having contributed the first Gameweek review at the Fantasy Premier League site, we got a glimpse as some of the statistics that contributed to the EA SPORTS PPI Gameweek totals. That brief dalliance and crucially, from the PPI totals already poured into the game from Gameweek One, a number of theories on the factors that will influence this season’s bonus point distribution have been developed further and a few more questions raised.

Hitting the Target is Crucial…
There were several PPI point totals that caused concern – in particular Fernando Torres earning 0 for his display at Stoke, Victor Moses also fetching 0 for his showing against Wigan and Andy Carroll’s -10 picked up in the 1-1 with Sunderland.

These players appear to have a couple of key factors in common and it’s perhaps the Carroll PPI which offers the most obvious guide. It appears that off target goal attempts are costly and can outweigh more positive factors and dent a players’ PPI – particularly when that player’s team fails to win the game.

Andy Carroll had many attempts on goal against Sunderland, of which only 1 found their target. His missed attempts appear to be the key factor behind his miserable day one PPI return. This was presumably compounded by the fact that Liverpool only mustered a draw against Sunderland.

Both Victor Moses and Fernando Torres also “wasted†opportunities in matches that their teams failed to win. While we’re unaware just how this is weighted against their total PPI, it appears that failing to hit the target with a goal attempt can seriously begin to dent your PPI total. Had Liverpool, Chelsea and Wigan won their matches, the PPI of these players could well have been boosted significantly.

With that in mind, Fantasy Managers may need to identify those players who gamble on firing in efforts from range – or are perhaps wasteful in front of goal.

The latter is a given – why would we invest in players who often found Row Z from six yards? Players like Clint Dempsey and Nani, however, are renowned for taking pot shots from range – it could be that, by doing so, they will damage their PPI score and, if they fail to find the net in a game, seriously hinder their chances of fetching FPL bonus points.

It could be that the algorithm is fed statistics that incorporate the nature of the missed goal attempt – it seems unlikely though and Carroll’s Gameweek one PPI appears to indicate the costly nature of wasted opportunities.

The Spread of Bonus points will be wider…
It didn’t take long to discover this. Immediately in Gameweek one we had a match at the Britannia which served up a spread of bonus across a group of players with Ashley Cole earning the maximum 3 points, while four players – John Terry, Jon Obi Mikel, Ryan Shawcross and Asmir Begovic, all collected 2 points. The Wigan vs Norwich game meanwhile saw seven players earn bonus – five earning 1 point each.

The spread was impossible to predict – created by a ties in overall PPI scores. Such an event will take some getting used to but appears to indicate that players that were previously overlooked by the PA representative (Mikel in particular) now have the opportunity to earn bonus recognition if they put in a statistical shift. A good thing? Probably.

With this in mind it’s inevitable that the overall total of bonus points dished out this season will increase and will perhaps increase quite considerably. It’s unknown how often these ties will occur but, given the apparent spread of the PPI totals in some matches, it appears like we could see at least one or two matches per Gameweek featuring such a spread – particularly in drawn matches.

Out of Position Players Could be even more valuable…
We know from the definition available on the Premier League site that the EA SPORTS PPI uses position as a weighting factor in its algorithm when it comes to clean sheets. We don’t know how much of a factor it is and whether a player’s position also influences the weighting of performance statistics. Perhaps actions that are atypical for a player’s position – a goal for a defender, a tackle for a forward – may well earn a stronger PPI return. With this in mind, we can only speculate that, if a player is played out of position, their PPI will be skewed.

For example, Gabby Agbonlahor, according to the EA INDEX statistics, put in an unnatural number of dribbles on the Villa left flank at Fulham. As he is classified as a Forward, these dribbles may have earned him a heavier PPI value than if he’d have been classified as a midfielder. As a result of his PPI return of 16, he nudged ahead of Shay Given, touted as man of the match at the Cottage, to 1 bonus point. Could it have been Agbonlahor’s position classification that helped him achieve this? Like so many of the theories discussed, we will need more Gameweeks to pass before we can firm this up.

The Bonus will remain unpredictable…
While a portion of the Gameweek one bonus awards appeared to make sense, as usual there was a decent size slab that left us puzzled and perplexed. The lack of bonus for Wes Hoolahan despite scoring at Wigan, the aforementioned snub of Fernando Torres at Stoke, these examples immediately spring to mind.

While we had the impression that the use of the EA SPORTS PPI would make the Bonus awards more predictable – perhaps even transparent, it’s already clear that this won’t be the case. We will still be nervously awaiting their arrival, unsure of their destination and left querying several awards each Gameweek.

While this will be scandalous when it affects us personally, from a distance it at least maintains the post Gameweek discussion that have become almost part and parcel of the FPL for many seasons.

For the purity and transparency of the game it’s obviously not the progress we expected – for fuelling banter and opinion however, it means little has changed. The whims of the man in the stand have been replaced with the cold secret of an algorithm – a new, faceless scapegoat for our failing Gameweek points tallies.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Tim Pickupski
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    I think that giving us free transfers until week 2 means we all have similar teams.

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    1. Fratboy
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      I think that you are right.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        You would both be wrong ... at least as far as I am concerned ... 😉

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        1. Frazek
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          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Oh, so you did go for that Anelka/Pavlyuchenko combo?

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      I don't like it but everyone is changing their teams so no point putting yourself at a disadvantage. I Just know my GW1 team is going to wipe the floor with my new team

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  2. Riff Raff
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hi guys. Please RMT. Cheers

    Given (Ruddy)

    Baines(vc) - Kompany - De Laet - (Simpson) - (Hughes)

    Silva - Cahill - Moses - Sinclair - (Surman)

    Bent - Torres(c) - Fletcher

    with £2.5m in the bank for changes GW3/4

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    1. BwG
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Different I like it. Have been toying with Fletcher too. Would probably spend some money on a Moses or Surman upgrade though.

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  3. suarez 25
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    RMT fellas

    SCHWARZER
    S TAYLER SHAWCROSS BOSINGWA
    N ZOGBIA SINCLAIR WALTERS SILVA
    TORRES ROONEY BENT

    SUBS R JOHNSON MOSES SIMPSON
    0.5 MILL LEFT
    WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BEST
    BENT/SUAREZ
    WALTERS/SESSEGNON

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Stop Shouting

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      1. suarez 25
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        sorry ya bitch left caps on

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        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          lol

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    2. Riff Raff
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      Get Moses off the bench and stick with Bent although doubling up on Villa with N'Zog may not be ideal. No Everton cover?

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I've got Saha - really fancy him this year (not like that!)

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    3. heco87
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Hard to bench Roger Johnson at home to Fulham vs S Taylor awa to Sunderland or Shawcross at Norwich, I think.

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  4. Avon Barksdale
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    will briggs start, now that riises out.

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    1. Fratboy
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      he isn't out?

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  5. Islandboy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Keep changing my team every five minutes so what about...

    Ruddy Hilario

    Brown Senderos Kompany Enrique Simpson

    NZogbia Hoolahan Yaya Toure Cahill Moses

    Torres Suarez Rooney

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    1. Riff Raff
      • 15 Years
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      Like it. Guess you will downgrade someone and upgrade Hilario in a few weeks.

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      1. Islandboy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Had Given. Not sure Hilario is even worth it just for a few weeks. Will have to transfer him out again shortly anyway.

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      no point rating it if your going to change it in 5mins lol

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  6. RedGun
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Delaet at home to stoke or senderos away to wolves who should start and who should be benched?
    also same question for moses away to swansea vs hoolahan at home to stoke?

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    1. Alonso14
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Same as mate think I am going to go with de laet ful

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  7. Frank3F
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Dempsey or N'Zogbia?
    I've A Johnson and switching to Dempsey wouldn't give an Villa cover

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    1. Riff Raff
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      N'Zog, for me

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  8. agarthered
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    RMT

    Hilario (vorm)
    Boswinga/Enrique/Kompany (simpson/de laet)
    Cahill Nani Silva(v) Ohara (moses)
    Suarez Torres (c) Fletcher

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
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      Nice team

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    2. Locked&Bloated
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      id downgrade Nani and bring in Baines

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      1. Riff Raff
        • 15 Years
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        +1

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    3. Fratboy
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      O'Hara>Sinclair imo, nice team otherwise!

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  9. Locked&Bloated
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Fletcher or Davies up front?

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    1. fplking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      fletcher, promised 20 goals this season!

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      1. MeandYouSittingInATree
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        By whom? Santa or the Tooth Fairy?

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        1. fplking
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          the easter bunny! nah just wait he will score a fair few this season

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  10. MeandYouSittingInATree
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Sinclair or Jarvis? Or another 6mil Middie?

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    1. Alonso14
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      sinclair

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  11. cjjashton88
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone tempted by Etherington?

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  12. Demí
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    .Wayne.Rooney.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Fail.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Wrong number mate.

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      1. tommys
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        theres a G in dougal..

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Yep! That rang my ding-a-ling, alright!!! 😉

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        2. AP
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          14 years, 8 months ago

          Pretty good goal that.

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  13. Nannerz_17
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Captain selection headache this GW.

    Who to captain?

    Rooney, Torres, Aguero, Cahill?

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    1. fplking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      toressssss

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  14. tommys
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    silva moses jarvis sess

    weak midfield???

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
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      y

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      1. tommys
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        im gone top heavy

        rooney torres suarez thats y

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    2. rm9
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      It doesn't matter which position the points come from, going balanced is stupid. You aren't a real manager and this is Fantasy Football...

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  15. agincourt
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Just got this reply from FPL about H to H leagues

    "The H2H leagues will be introduced this weekend. Unless the administrator resets the scoring to start in GW2, the GW1 fixtures/results will be generated retrospectively."

    Don't quite get the reasoning since the "administrator" for H to H is FPL I thought but it looks as if we will see H to H for GW1 eventually.

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      The guy that started the league is the administrator

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      1. agincourt
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        But FPL is the "guy who started the H to H league" Yes?

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  16. Nabzzy
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Should i replace Rodellega with other Striker ?? my team

    Bardsley/kompany/Simpson/Smalling/sanderos

    Moses/Malouda/Silva/Ramsey/brunt

    torres/bent/rodellega

    please advise

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  17. Lrf
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Kompany + Cole or Bosingwa + Baines

    Got Silva, Saha and Torres from the teams above.

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  18. Dago
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Logged on to FPL leaving laptop on over night at work with the wireless router aerial closed in the lid.

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    1. Locked&Bloated
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I am 100% confident that the site wont crash again

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Me too, logged on since Thursday

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Stop it, stop, sides... splitting... 🙂

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Try this instead, Soop ... 😉

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  19. som3awy
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Who said riise is out?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Homosexual?

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    2. Dragan Stojkovic
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bjorn is out not John

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  20. CoolBeans
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Nani or Young?

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    1. 4toon31
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Young

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Nani, at home ...

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  21. 4toon31
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Vorm Young Sinclair

    or

    Al-Habsi Bale Taarabt With 1 million spare.

    Rest Of Team:
    Given
    Huth Hughes Kompany Simpson Lopez
    Toure N'zogbia Downing
    Gyan Torres Zamora

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  22. El Pulpo Paul
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone not going with Rooney? It cost me not having him in GW1, dont like his fixtures but reckon everyone in my league will have him.

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    1. fplking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      yh ive got rooney, capable of scoring against anyone imo

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        And flopping like he did last year....

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        1. fplking
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          He flopped yet was one of the highest scoring strikers in fpl

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ive gone with Young instead. Rooney will sit slightly behind I think, linking play up from the hole with Young/Nani/Cleverly running beyond him. Spurs will be set up differently to West Brom

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      1. fplking
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Pens and free kicks rooney tho with occasionaly nani when shooting on goal

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    3. MCM
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He's priceless to me, if he doesn't score he'll most certainly assist or do some great passes. Last Season he was one of the best passers in FPL.

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  23. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    A or B

    A.
    Silva & N'Zogbia

    B.
    Yaya & Tim Cahill

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  24. ToonTom
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Heco

    See this?

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11678_7112245,00.html

    100,00?!
    And we lied
    We are a joke atm!

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Agree, complete laughing stock.

      Similar situation with N Taylor at Swansea - it's as though we don't target players we need / players we've identified as being good players but we target players we think we can get on the cheap.

      It makes me ashamed to support the club to be honest.

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  25. Ceefax Page 302
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Whose on free kicks for man city?

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    1. Creme Brulee
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Silva/Aguero/Johnson

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    2. fplking
      • 14 Years
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      david silvaaa

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    3. fplking
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      Hart will be on free kicks in and around his area

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  26. Creme Brulee
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Ok now im losing it!!

    baines, ShawX, Ferguson (Bench) and Bent

    Or

    Jagielka, Huth, Dyer (SWA) and Aguero????

    Please help!!!

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    1. Soop
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      No point in Everton Defenders who aren't Baines IMO. Thus, pretty much A.

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
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        Soop, just to put that statement into context, you're valuing Baines' attacking input as being worth an extra 2.5 m. Not convinced.

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        1. Soop
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah, I see him pretty much as a midfielder with the odd chance of clean sheets.

          Time will tell, but that's my opinion.

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      2. dierstraights
        • 16 Years
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        -1

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  27. cjjashton88
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    If Jagielka goes, who will he go to?

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  28. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    NEW POST

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  29. embo76
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Given
    Bosingwa
    De Laet
    Kompany
    Sinclair
    Lampard
    Moses
    Yaya Toure
    Torres
    Bent
    Aguero
    Ruddy
    Simpson
    Dyer
    Hall
    Could people please give me some feedback on this team. was thinking of loosing aguero for saha for a few weeks and then maybe upgrading yaya to silva. thanks

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    1. fplking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      its so hard to read your team when you do it like that, fool 🙂

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    2. ToonTom
      • 16 Years
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      That formation is terrible. No width

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      1. Creme Brulee
        • 15 Years
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        +1

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      2. Pheeal
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        lmao

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    3. Creme Brulee
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      Yeah, heres some feedback...put your team in the regular format so it doesnt destroy my eyes.

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    4. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Seems like youve got loads of players! Have a look back through the threads, see how the team or normally formatted then repost. Don't listen to the abuse mate!!!!

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      1. fplking
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        we are only joking

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    5. reply fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      It's nice. But I would wait with Aquero.

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      1. reply fail
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        OMG, 5 responses above me. I was the first while I started typing. Must take some lessons.

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    6. Lizard-fantasy
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      dont write it like that it looks like you have 20 players and it burns my eyes reading it....lamps not worth the money this year with all the quality at 10 mil and id give aguero another week tbh

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    7. heco87
      • 15 Years
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      OUCH!

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  30. 4toon31
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Vorm Young Sinclair

    or

    Al-Habsi Bale Taarabt With 1 million spare.

    Rest Of Team:
    Given
    Huth Hughes Kompany Simpson Lopez
    Toure N'zogbia Downing
    Gyan Torres Zamora

    RMT

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