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19 August 2011 1262 comments
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Nothing changes. One Gameweek down and a section of us are already berating the Fantasy Premier League bonus points, questioning their award – venting frustration that the shining performances of our own players have been ignored.

We had such high hopes; the inclusion of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index as the system that powered the bonus awards was expected to offer clarity – to reward those players who obviously stood out over 90 minutes. However, perhaps that’s an unrealistic goal; perhaps there always be a section of us destined for despair when the bonus is dished out.

From the evidence of Gameweek one, it’s clear that our love/hate relationship with the FPL bonus could very well continue – the Saturday night bafflement transferred to Monday morning, when this season’s statistically powered points arrive. Time will tell.

Having contributed the first Gameweek review at the Fantasy Premier League site, we got a glimpse as some of the statistics that contributed to the EA SPORTS PPI Gameweek totals. That brief dalliance and crucially, from the PPI totals already poured into the game from Gameweek One, a number of theories on the factors that will influence this season’s bonus point distribution have been developed further and a few more questions raised.

Hitting the Target is Crucial…
There were several PPI point totals that caused concern – in particular Fernando Torres earning 0 for his display at Stoke, Victor Moses also fetching 0 for his showing against Wigan and Andy Carroll’s -10 picked up in the 1-1 with Sunderland.

These players appear to have a couple of key factors in common and it’s perhaps the Carroll PPI which offers the most obvious guide. It appears that off target goal attempts are costly and can outweigh more positive factors and dent a players’ PPI – particularly when that player’s team fails to win the game.

Andy Carroll had many attempts on goal against Sunderland, of which only 1 found their target. His missed attempts appear to be the key factor behind his miserable day one PPI return. This was presumably compounded by the fact that Liverpool only mustered a draw against Sunderland.

Both Victor Moses and Fernando Torres also “wasted†opportunities in matches that their teams failed to win. While we’re unaware just how this is weighted against their total PPI, it appears that failing to hit the target with a goal attempt can seriously begin to dent your PPI total. Had Liverpool, Chelsea and Wigan won their matches, the PPI of these players could well have been boosted significantly.

With that in mind, Fantasy Managers may need to identify those players who gamble on firing in efforts from range – or are perhaps wasteful in front of goal.

The latter is a given – why would we invest in players who often found Row Z from six yards? Players like Clint Dempsey and Nani, however, are renowned for taking pot shots from range – it could be that, by doing so, they will damage their PPI score and, if they fail to find the net in a game, seriously hinder their chances of fetching FPL bonus points.

It could be that the algorithm is fed statistics that incorporate the nature of the missed goal attempt – it seems unlikely though and Carroll’s Gameweek one PPI appears to indicate the costly nature of wasted opportunities.

The Spread of Bonus points will be wider…
It didn’t take long to discover this. Immediately in Gameweek one we had a match at the Britannia which served up a spread of bonus across a group of players with Ashley Cole earning the maximum 3 points, while four players – John Terry, Jon Obi Mikel, Ryan Shawcross and Asmir Begovic, all collected 2 points. The Wigan vs Norwich game meanwhile saw seven players earn bonus – five earning 1 point each.

The spread was impossible to predict – created by a ties in overall PPI scores. Such an event will take some getting used to but appears to indicate that players that were previously overlooked by the PA representative (Mikel in particular) now have the opportunity to earn bonus recognition if they put in a statistical shift. A good thing? Probably.

With this in mind it’s inevitable that the overall total of bonus points dished out this season will increase and will perhaps increase quite considerably. It’s unknown how often these ties will occur but, given the apparent spread of the PPI totals in some matches, it appears like we could see at least one or two matches per Gameweek featuring such a spread – particularly in drawn matches.

Out of Position Players Could be even more valuable…
We know from the definition available on the Premier League site that the EA SPORTS PPI uses position as a weighting factor in its algorithm when it comes to clean sheets. We don’t know how much of a factor it is and whether a player’s position also influences the weighting of performance statistics. Perhaps actions that are atypical for a player’s position – a goal for a defender, a tackle for a forward – may well earn a stronger PPI return. With this in mind, we can only speculate that, if a player is played out of position, their PPI will be skewed.

For example, Gabby Agbonlahor, according to the EA INDEX statistics, put in an unnatural number of dribbles on the Villa left flank at Fulham. As he is classified as a Forward, these dribbles may have earned him a heavier PPI value than if he’d have been classified as a midfielder. As a result of his PPI return of 16, he nudged ahead of Shay Given, touted as man of the match at the Cottage, to 1 bonus point. Could it have been Agbonlahor’s position classification that helped him achieve this? Like so many of the theories discussed, we will need more Gameweeks to pass before we can firm this up.

The Bonus will remain unpredictable…
While a portion of the Gameweek one bonus awards appeared to make sense, as usual there was a decent size slab that left us puzzled and perplexed. The lack of bonus for Wes Hoolahan despite scoring at Wigan, the aforementioned snub of Fernando Torres at Stoke, these examples immediately spring to mind.

While we had the impression that the use of the EA SPORTS PPI would make the Bonus awards more predictable – perhaps even transparent, it’s already clear that this won’t be the case. We will still be nervously awaiting their arrival, unsure of their destination and left querying several awards each Gameweek.

While this will be scandalous when it affects us personally, from a distance it at least maintains the post Gameweek discussion that have become almost part and parcel of the FPL for many seasons.

For the purity and transparency of the game it’s obviously not the progress we expected – for fuelling banter and opinion however, it means little has changed. The whims of the man in the stand have been replaced with the cold secret of an algorithm – a new, faceless scapegoat for our failing Gameweek points tallies.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. ImpalerX
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    What do you guys think Torres or Aguero

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    1. samcro
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Both.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        aguero can wait 2 weeks

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        1. Carlos
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Aguero is a must, but not until GW 4.
          It has to Be Rooney, Bent and Torres for GW 2 & 3. HAS to be!
          All with 2 HOME games in a row.
          Rooney on Penalties
          Torres v 2 bottom 6 teams
          Bent on Penalties & v 2 botttom 6 teams

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          1. IAmTheWalrus
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            thats v. expensive tho, im going with saha in that group instead of rooney

            but i do have baines in defence, so maybe i should rejig

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        2. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Aguero is not a must. Tevez i back and there was only on GW. I had Aguero in the UCL fantasy, He had cracking games but then nothing. He is not consistent IMO. Wait and see is about Aguero IMO. GW 4 earliest, when Tevez will be available too,

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      2. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        torres becomes aguero GW4... he ain't going up, in fact i forecast aguero to go down in value over next 3 weeks, then very attractive fixtures

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    2. Tuchap - Lurker
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Torres, Aguero when fully fit (around GW4 hopefully)

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  2. Mr. Greedy
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Yesterday I didn't want Baines.
    Today I do.
    Everton have just got brilliant fixtures.

    Saha is too risky, too streaky and too injury prone. Of last season's 70 points he scored 21 in one game.

    Cahill costs more than Baines and last season did not perform as well as Baines.

    Distin, Jags, etc. Don't float my boat when I want attacking payoff.

    Arteta was poor last season and there are question marks over his fitness (which increases Baine's potential).

    Therefore, it has to be Baines.

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      get Baines, especially if u do't have any other EVE. play 4 3 3 and consider Baines a mid......

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Cahill had excellent season, then he played for his national team and then he got injured, In mean time he was banging the points all the time. Looks like he is gonna have BP this time for sure.

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    3. Carlos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I hear ya. I cant afford Baines because I'm going Gun heavy up Top. There's at least 5 strikers I want! Rooney, Torres, Bent, Aguero & Suarez... I spent an hour examining Everton in detail yesterday, talked to a mate who's a big Fan. He saw them play a friendly in Ireland on Monday night. He told me all their first team players look really unfit and miles off being ready for the premier league.....
      ANyway, after all the dissection, Baines is IMO the one and only viable Everton option at the moment.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        So they r unfit? hmmm.... or should i say damnnnn....

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  3. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Last tweak

    do I play...
    Kompany or Wes Brown

    Baines and Bosingwa are the other two.

    Fixtures say Wes Brown, head says Man City are a clean sheet machine...even away.

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      if you have kompany play him

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jonty - this is a bit late - but when it comes to defenders, always play at home where possible, is my dictum. It is not as though K is going to run up the pitch and score ...

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      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        my thinking as well Doosra. Kompany is for clean sheets and not much else...there's no goals or assists with him.

        Nice back up if Bosingwa is benched and doesn;t come on. Means I've got nine playing at home with only Yaya and Suarez my away lads....think that's the highest home contingent I've ever had.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          kompany in line for bonus in what is historically a 0-0 encounter.. so that's potentially 7-9 points

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  4. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    ANybody has the data about Yaya's ppg away from home?

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    1. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He scored 4.5 ppg away from home compared with 4.05 ppg at home. Suggests he may be better away from home.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Hmmmm.... Nice call. I thought he is more defensive away from home. He could go in my team instead of N Zog.

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  5. Cannon
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Which trio to add in please:

    Option A:
    Warnock - Cahill - Ferguson (4m)

    Option B:
    (4 mil def) - Nani/Young - Ferguson (4m)

    Option C
    Senderos - Downing - Moses

    To go along with:
    Baines - Lescott - Enrique - Simpson
    Yaya - Sess - Sinclair
    Holt - Rooney - Torres

    or any alternative thought?
    Thanks

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      A but I am not a fan of Ferguson. Find 0.5 and upgrade him

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  6. Commander Makara
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Chaps, Should I have Jags in my team?!

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    1. turncoat4trophies
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      which chaps....dean or ryan?

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  7. Herewegoagain
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Any chance you kind people could RMT please.

    Hilario (Given)
    Lescott/Dunne/Jagielka/A Cole (Olsson)
    Jarvis/Moses/Sessegnon/T Cahill (Walters)
    Rooney/Torres (Holt)

    Torres, Jarvis and Walters in for

    Silva, Rodallega and Ramires.

    Good move?

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    1. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I like the idea of Ramires, but yeah torres is a better punt!

      All good,

      id swap lescott for richards while hes nailed on, is he nailed on? maybe im mistake?

      and personally o hara for jarvis, but thats a coin toss and just a personal preference for me!

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      1. Herewegoagain
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers - Liked in gameweek 1 and think he is nailed on. Lescott nicks the odd goal though so plumped for him but as you was just personal preference. Same goes with Jarvis and O'hara. Want to see if o'hara picks up bp's this season like he has in the past.

        Cheers.

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    2. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Hilario not nailed to be starting, I've been suprised at how many people are bringing him in, also diminishes Chelsea's clean sheet chances

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      1. Herewegoagain
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Hmm - this is doing my head in now. Reckon I have made over 60 transfers since games week 1!!!!!

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  8. Nibbsy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Start Kompany (bol) or Brown (NEW) this weekend?

    Should be a no brainer but Newcastle looked pretty toothless up front against Arsenal.

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Surely not the only one in this boat judging by the RMTs I've seen today?? Fancy Bolton to score at home.

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  9. GinjaWhinja
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Ashley Cole and Andy Johnson
    ...or...
    Bosingwa and Saha

    Think long term please (3+ weeks)...

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    1. Spoiler
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      a long term

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    2. Herewegoagain
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Cole and Johnson for me

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      1. GinjaWhinja
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks guys, further opinions would be appreciated too though to validate this...

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I have Cole and AJ, so probably the other two...

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    3. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      has to be A long term!

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    4. Herewegoagain
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bollox - keep forgetting to reply to comment - Cole and Johnson definitely

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    5. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Long term - Cole and AJ. But you're going to need decent midfield options for when AJ has a tough fixture (GWs 2 3 5 6 8).

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    6. Connor's Calling
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      long term has to be the first one
      (short term i'd go Bos and Saha though)

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  10. Nani-17
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Given (Ruddy)
    A.Cole, Kompany, Brown (Hughes, Simpson)
    Malouda, N'Zogbia, Jarvis, Sinclair (Hoolohan)
    Torres (C), Bent, Saha

    Many tough choices, anybody got any feedback? Cheers.

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    1. Herewegoagain
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Dont know about Malouda he was poor last week

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  11. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    ok, so RVP v Rooney this GW? Had RVP 1st week.....

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    1. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      let me know which one you pick so I can pick the other one then!

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      1. MADE IN CHARLTON
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        +1

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        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          goodness.....

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  12. IAmTheWalrus
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Heres a question

    Two 4.5 defenders...or a 5.0 and a 4.0

    Namely

    Simpson and Enrique
    OR
    Senderos and Brown

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    1. Shatner's Bassoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I'm toying with the idea of Hibbert for 5.0 as well. Wise?

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      1. Dre
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        waste of time, Moyes'll go with Neville at RB Distin & Jags CBs and Baines LB - Hibbert won't get a look in

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        1. Uber Mo
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          what will the midfield and attack be?
          arteta, fellaini, rodwell, osman
          cahill
          saha
          ???

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          1. Shatner's Bassoon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Osman, Fellaini and Saha are all very likely. Arteta depends on fitness, Cahill likely but might be rested if Moyes feels the squad is strong enough vs QPR. I think he'll play though. Most likely a 4-5-1. Just not sure about RB...

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    2. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Depends who the defs are. Of the ones you mention I'd only play Enrique regardless of fixtures, so they would need to rotate well.

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      1. IAmTheWalrus
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        True, sunderland and fulham dont have terrible fixtures, might go for that!

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  13. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Two seperate q's:
    1. Brunt or O'hara?
    2. Toure or Silva?
    Thanks

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    1. IAmTheWalrus
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ohara and Toure for me!

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      1. Connor's Calling
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        thank you!!

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  14. simplysuarez
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hilario

    Woodgate Enrique Simpson Brown

    Yaya Lamps Ashley Young

    Suarez Torres Bent

    subs Worm Senderos Surman Ferguson

    Any views lads and who would ye pick Captain???????

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    1. MADE IN CHARLTON
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Torres captain, Bent vice captain.

      I'm going with Carroll instead of Suarez...

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    2. Rough Paste 12
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Between Torres Lamps and Bent but I'd go for Torres. His due a few goals in the next few games.

      ps.Apparently we’re able to check out other players’ teams (with new subs) in our mini leagues … is this true? If so how?

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  15. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    been harping about cahill and enrique instead of baines, but now i decided to get Baines and Taraabt instead.. both have brilliant fixtures and Baines good run ends when Enrique's good run begins, so can swap him then.. random.. cheers:)

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  16. Romford Pele - Don't w…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Aguero is an anagram for: a rogue.

    remember that

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    1. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Pele is an anagram for Peel... spooky non?

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  17. J.Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Can't decide which combo is better. Can you?

    1) Young & Bent (20,0)

    or

    2) N'Zogbia & Rooney (19,5)

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    1. hunkydory
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2). Buy yourself something nice with the spare 0.5.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      1

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    3. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2 definitely.

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    4. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2

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    5. Dre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Yound and Bent sounds like a men seeking men lonely hearts column. Go for no. 2

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      1. Dre
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Young*

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    6. Connor's Calling
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2 for me. even more so when i look at it like that...!

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  18. Boro223
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Chelsea attack coverage that isnt Torres or Lampard?

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    1. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I'm sticking with Cole

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Malouda

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    3. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Drogba

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    4. Uber Mo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      malouda is the least risky

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        malouda but only 4 2 gw's

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    5. Herewegoagain
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ramires short term.

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    6. llamaZA
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Malouda and Cole (yes, it is attack cover - else it wouldn't cost 7.5)

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  19. TeddiPonza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I am choosing between Holt and AJ

    AJ: Pros: Good pre-season, proven PL goalscorer when fit, MoM against Villa, good fixtures
    Cons: Could be dropped due to Dempsey's good performance upfront yesterday and possible striker signings (Ruiz or that Ajax dude)

    Holt: Pros: Norwich main man, captain, on spot kicks, good home games coming up. Great Goal scoring record last few years. Good home games coming up
    Cons: Unproven at this stage, difficult away games coming up.

    Wow difficult decision....a toin coss maybe? 🙂

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Up til yesterday I would have gone for AJ but I think Jol has other ideas so go Holt.

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      i went holt in order to rotate with sinclair. i don't like the next 2 for fulham either

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    3. TeddiPonza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      coin toss not toin coss hehe

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    4. QOTSA
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Holt.

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      1. TeddiPonza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah...leaning towards Holt myself after yesterday's match....thanks.

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  20. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Team locked and loaded.. NOT AN RMT.. considered most variables and i've come up with this.. only decision is Brunt or Taraabt? Brunt frees 0.5.. both have fantastic fixtures from next week.. both on my bench this week.. let me know
    Given (Vorm)
    Baines Kompany Brown (Senderos Simpson)
    Nzogbia Sinclair Moses Sessegnon (Taraabt/Brunt)
    Torres(VC) Rooney(C) Suarez

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Brunt fo sho

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      That is my defence exactly (at the mo). Brunt seems the safer pick to me.

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      explain me how qpr's fixtures are fantastic?

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        wig NEW wol AVL

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  21. zee303
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Currently got both Nzog and Bent.

    Too much Villa coverage? Going to swap them out after gameweek 3. Bent anyway.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      too much. sell one of them

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      1. zee303
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I quite fancy Bent to bang a couple in over the next 2 weeks. Any suggestions for better midfielder than Ngoz at 7.5 or les?

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          yaya for 0.5 more?

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          1. zee303
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            already got Yaya

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    2. Uber Mo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I have got both too - I'm taking a punt for a few weeks.

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      1. zee303
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yeh im thinking the same, if they don't do anythign this week will swap Bent for Saurez/Caroll next week

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    3. Herewegoagain
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Get rid of one. With Mcleish I'd be more prepared to double up on their defence.

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  22. sando
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Rmt please. This unlimited transfer business is doing my head in.

    Hilario (vorm)
    Brown, warnock, upson (Simpson, *4m*)
    young, silva, nzog, dyer (fergusson)
    Rooney, Torres, aguero.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      sell upson and ferguson. your team is classic 80pt weekend then 5 gw's 30pts

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      1. ZeSuPeR
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I fail to see a single 4.5 player who is likely to return more than 2 anyway, so why not play a 2 sub game and use the 0.5 to strengthen your starting 11 ?

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          hahahah.

          don't be offended but 4 me that is a rookie mistake.

          dyer, surman maybe

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          1. ZeSuPeR
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            dyer and surman, right.

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            1. ZeSuPeR
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              having ferguson is just a gamble, and benefits your starting 11 immensely.. I wouldn't write it off as such an awful tactic at all.

              I may be proved wrong, but we shall see =]

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      2. sando
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Who could I get instead though?

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  23. samcro
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Aguero and N'Zogbia (I have Yaya and Bent)

    or

    Rooney and Sessignon/£6.5m midfielder

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      easy call according to me. u have yaya and bent already right?

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      1. samcro
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, option 2 then?

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          by a mile imo.

          u have oop and penalty taker 4 the champions vs not assured of start and not assured of 90m and under defensive manager.

          still thinking?

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    2. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely B if you have zog and yaya

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  24. Ceefax Page 302
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    a) Huth, Larsson, Aguero
    OR
    b) Woodgate, Silva, Suarez

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      b

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    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      a) for the season

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      1. Ceefax Page 302
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Was thinking for the next 2 or 3 weeks

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    3. Cannon
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Probably B for now. Wanna give Aguero couple of weeks.

      With the same money, i have Warnock - Sessegnon - Rooney ??

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  25. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    traffic on here is amazing....

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      +42

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    2. MADE IN CHARLTON
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I thought the M25 - or the A3 even - was bad! 😉

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  26. yanky
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Seems like most are going young over nani...hmmm

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  27. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    downing , dempsey or bale

    ?

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  28. Captain_Birdseye
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Oh and Given is in blue. Damned these kits!

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  29. Will
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I've gone for Rooney, bent, sess and toure

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      good choice

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  30. clauxy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Not that much love for Aguero right now....

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