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19 August 2011 1262 comments
Mark Mark
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Nothing changes. One Gameweek down and a section of us are already berating the Fantasy Premier League bonus points, questioning their award – venting frustration that the shining performances of our own players have been ignored.

We had such high hopes; the inclusion of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index as the system that powered the bonus awards was expected to offer clarity – to reward those players who obviously stood out over 90 minutes. However, perhaps that’s an unrealistic goal; perhaps there always be a section of us destined for despair when the bonus is dished out.

From the evidence of Gameweek one, it’s clear that our love/hate relationship with the FPL bonus could very well continue – the Saturday night bafflement transferred to Monday morning, when this season’s statistically powered points arrive. Time will tell.

Having contributed the first Gameweek review at the Fantasy Premier League site, we got a glimpse as some of the statistics that contributed to the EA SPORTS PPI Gameweek totals. That brief dalliance and crucially, from the PPI totals already poured into the game from Gameweek One, a number of theories on the factors that will influence this season’s bonus point distribution have been developed further and a few more questions raised.

Hitting the Target is Crucial…
There were several PPI point totals that caused concern – in particular Fernando Torres earning 0 for his display at Stoke, Victor Moses also fetching 0 for his showing against Wigan and Andy Carroll’s -10 picked up in the 1-1 with Sunderland.

These players appear to have a couple of key factors in common and it’s perhaps the Carroll PPI which offers the most obvious guide. It appears that off target goal attempts are costly and can outweigh more positive factors and dent a players’ PPI – particularly when that player’s team fails to win the game.

Andy Carroll had many attempts on goal against Sunderland, of which only 1 found their target. His missed attempts appear to be the key factor behind his miserable day one PPI return. This was presumably compounded by the fact that Liverpool only mustered a draw against Sunderland.

Both Victor Moses and Fernando Torres also “wasted” opportunities in matches that their teams failed to win. While we’re unaware just how this is weighted against their total PPI, it appears that failing to hit the target with a goal attempt can seriously begin to dent your PPI total. Had Liverpool, Chelsea and Wigan won their matches, the PPI of these players could well have been boosted significantly.

With that in mind, Fantasy Managers may need to identify those players who gamble on firing in efforts from range – or are perhaps wasteful in front of goal.

The latter is a given – why would we invest in players who often found Row Z from six yards? Players like Clint Dempsey and Nani, however, are renowned for taking pot shots from range – it could be that, by doing so, they will damage their PPI score and, if they fail to find the net in a game, seriously hinder their chances of fetching FPL bonus points.

It could be that the algorithm is fed statistics that incorporate the nature of the missed goal attempt – it seems unlikely though and Carroll’s Gameweek one PPI appears to indicate the costly nature of wasted opportunities.

The Spread of Bonus points will be wider…
It didn’t take long to discover this. Immediately in Gameweek one we had a match at the Britannia which served up a spread of bonus across a group of players with Ashley Cole earning the maximum 3 points, while four players – John Terry, Jon Obi Mikel, Ryan Shawcross and Asmir Begovic, all collected 2 points. The Wigan vs Norwich game meanwhile saw seven players earn bonus – five earning 1 point each.

The spread was impossible to predict – created by a ties in overall PPI scores. Such an event will take some getting used to but appears to indicate that players that were previously overlooked by the PA representative (Mikel in particular) now have the opportunity to earn bonus recognition if they put in a statistical shift. A good thing? Probably.

With this in mind it’s inevitable that the overall total of bonus points dished out this season will increase and will perhaps increase quite considerably. It’s unknown how often these ties will occur but, given the apparent spread of the PPI totals in some matches, it appears like we could see at least one or two matches per Gameweek featuring such a spread – particularly in drawn matches.

Out of Position Players Could be even more valuable…
We know from the definition available on the Premier League site that the EA SPORTS PPI uses position as a weighting factor in its algorithm when it comes to clean sheets. We don’t know how much of a factor it is and whether a player’s position also influences the weighting of performance statistics. Perhaps actions that are atypical for a player’s position – a goal for a defender, a tackle for a forward – may well earn a stronger PPI return. With this in mind, we can only speculate that, if a player is played out of position, their PPI will be skewed.

For example, Gabby Agbonlahor, according to the EA INDEX statistics, put in an unnatural number of dribbles on the Villa left flank at Fulham. As he is classified as a Forward, these dribbles may have earned him a heavier PPI value than if he’d have been classified as a midfielder. As a result of his PPI return of 16, he nudged ahead of Shay Given, touted as man of the match at the Cottage, to 1 bonus point. Could it have been Agbonlahor’s position classification that helped him achieve this? Like so many of the theories discussed, we will need more Gameweeks to pass before we can firm this up.

The Bonus will remain unpredictable…
While a portion of the Gameweek one bonus awards appeared to make sense, as usual there was a decent size slab that left us puzzled and perplexed. The lack of bonus for Wes Hoolahan despite scoring at Wigan, the aforementioned snub of Fernando Torres at Stoke, these examples immediately spring to mind.

While we had the impression that the use of the EA SPORTS PPI would make the Bonus awards more predictable – perhaps even transparent, it’s already clear that this won’t be the case. We will still be nervously awaiting their arrival, unsure of their destination and left querying several awards each Gameweek.

While this will be scandalous when it affects us personally, from a distance it at least maintains the post Gameweek discussion that have become almost part and parcel of the FPL for many seasons.

For the purity and transparency of the game it’s obviously not the progress we expected – for fuelling banter and opinion however, it means little has changed. The whims of the man in the stand have been replaced with the cold secret of an algorithm – a new, faceless scapegoat for our failing Gameweek points tallies.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. p.pete
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    My last team decision - Moses away at Swansea, or Surnam at home to Stoke - opinions please!

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    1. Soop
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      His Surname is Surman, not Surnam.

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    2. Nibbsy
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Go with the homer.

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    3. Connor's Calling
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I've got to play both i think! Prob Surman if only one

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    4. Chip
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      i'd go moses. higher chance he'll be involved in a wigan goal than surman in a norwich goal imo

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  2. tommys
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    jarvis is better..hunts wild dont know what to expect.

    Ashley young or Rooney??

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    1. Chip
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      rooney avoids the rotation risk and id say is worth the extra 2m, altho it takes up a valuable striker slot

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  3. _____JR_____
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    CANNON RMT please 🙂

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  4. Soop
    • 16 Years
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    Chutney or Pickle? Pick one and give reasons.

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    1. p.pete
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      neither you sick puppy

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
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        I like this answer.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      as a lubricant?

      pickle (the branston one with the SMALL lumps)

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  5. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    anyone care to pick 1 please

    A. Given
    Bosingwa Kompany Brown

    B. Hilario
    Bosingwa Kompany Warnock

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    1. Chip
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      A

      Gotta dump hilario soon and i wouldn't dbl up chelski def with no cech imo

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  6. Chip
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Boswinga + Silva

    OR

    Cole + Yaya

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    1. Soop
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I guess ... I don't know really. Flip a coin.

      Cole is more guaranteed, and should edge the points, but I like Silva a bit more than Yaya.

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    2. SMOOTH
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      same dilema, iv gone with bos + silva

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bos and Silva Chip Chippington the 3rd.

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    4. Chip
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks guys. Tough one isn't it!! All week been planning to go bos (esp with cech out) and had silva for gw1. Thinking now tho benefit of cole being nailed on and yaya getting bonus for all his pot shots etc (nasri going complicating silva's position further possibly as well)

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  7. tommys
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    biscuit or cake???

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      CAKE!!!

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      1. tommys
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        no biscuit......i mean cake

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        1. Riff Raff
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          or death?

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    2. Soop
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      What kind of cake? Is the cake moist?

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      If it hardens as it ages, it's cake. If it softens as it ages, it's a biscuit.

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        a fine rule of thumb.

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      2. tommys
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        aaahhhhhh fiesty one you are

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      3. @ImpressiveTackl
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        My penis must be a biscuit then.

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        1. Soop
          • 16 Years
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          😀

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        2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          14 years, 8 months ago

          Open goal 😉

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
            • 15 Years
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            Back of the net!

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            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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              Cashback!

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          2. tommys
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            he shoots he scores right up the......ahem

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  8. Fantasy PL..!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hey Guys,

    Al-Habsi Given
    Simpson Gabiddon Enrique Richards Senderos
    Young Tarabtt/Ramsey Toure/Silva Fergerson Moses
    Caroll Torres Augero/Dzeko

    First need to decide on Tarabt or Ramsey and then i need to choose either Toure & Augero or Silva and Dzeko. First option will save me 1.5 mil, the second will save me 2.5 mil.. where would i invest this, thinking of Gabiddon upgrade to Boswinga..

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    1. Soop
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      It's hard to think how you've made your team that bad whilst spending that much money.

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        +1,000,000 you are clearly a noob.

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Be nice.

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      2. Fantasy PL..!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I didnt think it was so bad..

        Upgrade gabiddon to Boswinga and my starting line up was

        Boswinga Richards Senderos
        Young Ramsey Moses Toure/Silva
        Caroll Torres Augero/Dzeko

        (Enrique Simpson Fergerson - Granted weak bench)

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    2. bobwils
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Remarkably bad

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    3. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Rule of thumb I always use, steer clear of players in the team you support. Not entirely, but on the whole, tis easy to be blinded by the light that are all Yids (in my case, Gooners in yours).

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      1. Fantasy PL..!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Agreed.. ive only got Ramsey (who im willing to swap around, it was a toss up between him and Tarabtt for me, but open to suggestions.. RVP was tempting from fans point of view but difficult fixtures ahead..)

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Easy to say that when you support Spurs 😉

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        1. Fantasy PL..!
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          lol.. well i didnt wanna say that :p

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  9. RedGun
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    de laet or senderos who should start who should be benched?
    also same question for moses vs hoolahan?

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  10. zoltar74
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    was reading the forums today and someone nick named Rooney-
    Roompig.... hehe.. been laughing at it all day...

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Roompig?

      I hope you haven't been spelling it all day.

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      1. Soop
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        shhh - imagine how much he'll laugh when he spells it right and gets the joke!

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        1. zoltar74
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          ok ok, """"Roonpig""",,, geeeez u guys r harsh

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Sorry we are complete douchebags. Roonpig was pretty funny when I first heard it, enjoy.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      rooooonpig.com

      we've been calling him roonpig on here for months... we are QUITE the trendsetters

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      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        My 5 year old son even shouted Roonpig.com when he scored last week 🙂

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Your 5 year old son scored last week?! Wow he must be quite the Lothario. You should be proud.

          Playah!

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            he paid £1200 for a go on roonpig's hooker mind you

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  11. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Who to captain:

    Rooney/Lampard/Torres

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  12. _____JR_____
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    SOOP Rate my team plz 🙂

    Hilario

    Cashley/Smalling/Robinson (Bolton)

    Young/Petrov/Sessegnon/Moses

    Suarez/Torres/Rooney

    Given/Jose Enrique/Simpson/Surman

    Wat ya think?

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    1. Soop
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Which Petrov? Don't know why you have a Bolton defender in there.

      Otherwise, 7.2 freshly baked cupcakes out of 10.

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      1. _____JR_____
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Martin petrov...played well last weekend and is only 5.5...who would u play instead of robinson?

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        1. Soop
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Well, I wouldn't play Smalling either TBH. Just check the ticker and find 2 players in good defensive teams with good fixtures.

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        2. ManofKent
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Only Mark's supposed to take wild gambles on Petrov...

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        3. Chip
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          just remember last season and also playing well in a 4-0 win but getting how many points??? i'd save yourself the trouble!!

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Hahahaha 😆 @ the cupcakes rating system. Golden!

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  13. maverick
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    who to start from jarvis or moses?

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jarvis

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    2. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jarvis over Moses, but Jarvis has a tough fixture while Moses is not very good FPL wise, better going for Brunt or Walters.

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      1. bobwils
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        How can a home fixture against Fulham be called tough?

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        1. CFCTom
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Fulham have a good defensive record, and are an attacking team now under Jol.

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      2. p.pete
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I think there's a lot of people hoping he is very good FPL wise...

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    3. jamez
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      moses he wont get a clean sheet but he will score 7 goals and 85 asssits and 100 bonus points

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      1. Soup and a roll
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Holy crap! If I captain him this week I'll get 780 points? Sold.

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    4. BwG
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Both looked solid gw1. Jarvis is at home - Jarvis is away. I'd go Jarvis.

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      1. BwG
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        *Moses is away

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  14. Chelsenal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    opinions...

    Given, Ruddy

    Kompany, Bosingwa, Senderos, Woodgate, Simpson

    Silva, Cahill, Sessengon, Sinclair, Moses

    Torres, Bent, Holt

    With 4 mil up my sleeve

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    1. zoltar74
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I think its OK but with 4 in the bank I wld be putting some
      more fire power somewhere in the middle and mnaybe a bit in the defense OR wld get a nice holiday house somewhere coastal.

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      1. Chelsenal
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        i have been looking myself for more firepower in either defence or more importantly midfield but really struggling to find someone up for the job...especially with the fixtures dealt to us over the next couple of GWs

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        1. zoltar74
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I would maybe look at Chelsea, they have 2 home G's
          which look good. Also Villa have a good upcoming fixture.
          Just think 4m sitting around is a bit of a waste for u.

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  15. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    alex + senderos

    bosingwa + hughes?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      That's quite a question. I'm sin Chelski Def, but have Sendo,but will be benched this week. If you have a coin, give it a damn good toss!

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  16. BwG
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Rooney & Nzogbia

    or

    Suarez & Nani

    Thoughts?

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    1. bobwils
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Got all 4

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  17. FC_Dzbany
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    who's gonna start alex or bosingwa? Or maybe both? But Ivanovic is fit and ready to play and don't know which of alex and bosingwa will play. thanks

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  18. unoaime
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Which keeper to pair with Given?

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    1. BwG
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ruddy - if you'd like cover for home fixtures.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Have a look at him and Begovic together. It's a thing of rare beauty.

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  19. Tails
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Right about to have my ham and pickle sandwich.

    Baines and kalou

    or

    Hughes (ful) and malouda??

    Didn't see it but apparently malouda was garbage last week??? normally am a fan though.

    thoughts appreciated.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Cheese over ham, mayo over pickle. Sorry, you fail.

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  20. catch22
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Opinions please

    Kompany & Kalou with subs(osman moses taylor)
    or
    Luke Young & Malouda with subs (lucas moses taylor)

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  21. Mr Ron Burgundy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Final and finished.....no more tinkering!!! £0.5 in the bank!

    Hilario -- (Vorm)

    Brown // Kompany // Bosingwa -- (L Enrique // Senderos)

    Sessegnon // Yaya // Nzogbia // Sinslair -- (Moses)

    Rooney // Suarez // Torres

    .....go on be gentle with me, anything i could improve on?

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    1. Tails
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      you might be bugger*d if Hilario doesn't play / when cech comes back. You'll have to waste transfers fiddling around getting a decent keeper unless you plan on sticking with vorm. Otherwise looks pretty good, if not forward heavy. but I'm heading that route also.

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      1. Mr Ron Burgundy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        left 0.5 to swap to Given when cech is back

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    2. bobwils
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bosingwa might not start.

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Everyone might not start, idiot, Bosingwa is under no more risk than anyone.

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        1. Damo.
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          So the masses are right on one thing. You are indeed a dick.

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        2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          More risk than Lampard. More risk than Terry. More risk than Cole. Etc

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    3. Mr Ron Burgundy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ment to say Sinclair!

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    4. BwG
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Are you cool with 2 transfers if Given is 5.1 or 5.2 by then?

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      1. Mr Ron Burgundy
        • 15 Years
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        id probably swap to Mignolet if that happened. Sunderland will keep as many clean sheets as Villa i reckon.

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        1. BwG
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Solid, I like it. Last season if you played either Mignolet or Gordan as your #1 the entire campaign - you would have achieved the 3rd best keeper total.

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  22. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Cashley or Baines...what y'all reckon?

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  23. andy79
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    help! i really cant decide

    Baines and holt or alex and zamora?

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  24. keotes
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    I fancy lampard may do well this GW

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      +100

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  25. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    im going with torres, bent and suarez. feel nervous about not having aguero. is he a must yet...?

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  26. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    will bosingwa start or ivanovic?
    or better just to go with alex

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      bos ivan, terry cashley imo, but who knows its a lucky guess.

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        never mind with hilario at the goal they will concede

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  27. Fpl Old Guard
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Spurs scored 15 goals from outside the penalty area last season, 4 more than any other PL side - DeGea beware!

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  28. Ace Ventura
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Watson or Moses?
    Nani or young?

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  29. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    O'Hara
    Jarvis
    Brunt
    ?
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    1. BwG
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      1. Brunt
      2. Jarvis
      3. Ohara

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  30. cjjashton88
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I know Etherington has a lot of away fixtures, but, is there a reason he seems to be being totally ignored?

    Hes a good solid FPL scorer, and available at a reasonable price...

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    1. llamaZA
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      There's a lot of value at his price range, so generally you can pick a player for the same price with better fixtures.

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