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12 September 2011 1992 comments
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Before all the Rooney vice-captains come into play and we can concentrate on European endeavours for a couple of days we’ve got the Joey Barton of all match-ups.

The prickly character sees us open the Dugout Discussion as manager Neil Warnock hands him the armband against his old side Newcastle – not one to flounce under the radar, clearly. QPR are in fact rocking a whole host of new signings while Alan Pardew recalls Shola Ameobi in place of Peter Lovenkrands. Sides in full are…

QPR XI: Kenny; Young, Gabbidon, Ferdinand, Traore; Barton, Derry, Faurlin, Taarabt, Wright-Phillips; Bothroyd.

Newcastle XI: Krul; Simpson, S. Taylor, Coloccini, R. Taylor; Obertan, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez; Best, Ameobi.

Let us close the gameweek together in the Dugout Discussion and watch the sparks fly.

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  1. big oak
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    sorry i havnt watched swansea lately:
    is sinclair worth the extra 1.3 over dyer?

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    1. shivamutd
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      yes

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    2. Clintymints
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      meh, either or, but i think he is worth a little more than 4.6 though

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    3. Just A Hat
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      no

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    4. Christina.
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      No

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      1. The Finnisher
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Didnt watch the game, but read a few reports and majority said Dyer was number 1 attacking threat...If that helps?

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        1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Dyer was really far up the front as compared to Sinclair. But.. I had not seen any clear chances made by him. IMO.. Sinclair was looking more likely to get assist or score.

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    5. big oak
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      the thing is barton out dyer in will leave me with 1.3 in the bank my team is:

      given ruddy

      r taylor enrique bosingwa delaet baines
      cahill silva moses sess barton
      aguero adeba suarez

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        What? I'm well confused...keep Barton, get rid of Sess for Dyer

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        1. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          watching the game yesterday with qpr playing 4-2-3-1 with barton deep with derry and taarabt on spot kicks, i dnt see the benefit there.
          sess have been dangerous in the last couple of games but without return so im still gambling there

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      2. Fratboy
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        No Rooney 😯

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        1. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          rooney wnt do me any good in any case, everybody in front of me are just there because they have him.
          if i get him now ill just stay behind them, i prefer to play it catchup with manu difficult run of fixtures and when fixtures are clear will buy him.

          after all this united/rooney run wnt last forever

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          1. Fratboy
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            That is a fair point but I would rather play catch up with the other players in my team!

            Agreed though, I think Chico will start stealing more of rooneys goals soon!

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          2. IAmTheWalrus
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            im right there with you big oak, its tough!

            its real tough!!

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      3. big oak
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        so a lot to sort out with 2 everton players next week, rvp to get in once he hits form sess if it gets desperate...

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  2. iLA
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Morning everyone,

    1. I have 8m to spend on a striker and looking to bring in Adebayor. What are people thoughts on him? Is he a nailed on starter for Spurs?

    2. 90% of my minileague captained Rooney and pretty sure the majority will captain him again vs Chelsea. Im trailing behind 40 points so can anyone suggest if i should follow with (c) Rooney and having RVP as the deff? or might as well (c) RVP altogether?

    3. Is it worth sticking up with Nzog as he's playing NEW, qpr, WIG or his price will keep on plumeting?

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    1. Just A Hat
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      1) Adebyaor or Odemwinge, Adebayor for me though!

      2) Follow and captain Rooney, you are only 4 weeks into the season - plenty of time to catch up.

      3) I never thought N'Zogbia was a good purchase, so I would get rid but its up to you on that one! Depends on who you could bring in for him

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      1. iLA
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers Mark.

        Leaning towards Ade as well, reckon Spurs will score alot more than WBA.

        Or.... Do I take a 4point hit to get Suarez instead of Ade and Nzog to a 6m mid?

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    2. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      1) also consider agbonlahor at 6.6
      2) going with rooney from now on wnt do u any good. invest the money to upgrade the rest of the squad
      3) follow the news on heskey, it is worth waiting to see how theyll play a new formation if he's out and what his role will be there

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      1. The Finnisher
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Rooney wont do you any good? lol shutup

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        1. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          scroll up im explaining why... if ur intrested

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          1. iLA
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            big oak: I already have Rooney, just wondering if I should follow everyone captaining him or captain someone else like RVP hope to hell he comes good for a differential.

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            1. Just A Hat
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              14 years, 8 months ago

              You need to captain Rooney, one of the biggest mistakes people make is not captaining the obvious choice because they went for a risky/off form player in the hope they will do well, they very rarely do (See Torres GW 2/3)

              Just make the points up slowly with your other players

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          2. The Finnisher
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            I still dont get how it wouldnt help?
            I dont see why youd get him later when he could just as easily be 13.0 by then.

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            1. thetinkerman
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              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              I think he's referring to the fact that Rooney probably won't score every game (never mind 3) and almost half the players have him so getting him in now just means your miles behind with no hope of catching up (unless you have good differentials elsewhere).

              Fair play Rooney has been amazing and proved me wrong about his strike rate but I just don't see him sustaining anything like that rate of scoring.

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              1. big oak
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                14 years, 8 months ago

                i wouldnt have said it better

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              2. The Finnisher
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                14 years, 8 months ago

                Obviously he wont score 3 every game, but he is the form player in the comp and is the only obvious striker pick.
                Aguero/Dzeko rotation
                Suarez shooting blanks
                RVP playing crap

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              3. Just A Hat
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                The only thing that is going to happen with not having Rooney is that instead of being 40 points away from the top this week, you will be 80 points away in a few weeks time.

                Just put rooney in, captain him and then make up the points with your other players

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                1. big oak
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  now seriously how much do u think rooney will score against terry (manu fasn are not alowed to answer this one)
                  wouldnt u go for a rvp or even a manc striker away at fulham?

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    What? so you only have 1 striker position??
                    Im a gunner fan, and RVP and Arsenal are playing like crap, i wouldnt have him.
                    I have Dzeko, and am playing him this week and then selling him
                    Rooney and Suarez are my season keepers, the other will change with form/fixtures
                    Who on earth are your forwards then?

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                  2. big oak
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    actually i meant wouldnt u rather go for rvp manc strikers instead of rooney?

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                  3. The Finnisher
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    Thats when money comes into it.
                    I think id personally prefer Rooney as he is nailed on 99% of the time whereas Man City is a mystery.
                    Id stay away from RVP until he shows any signs of form at a club level

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      2. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        what about rvp is his price going to drop.

        Its high time arsenal need to perform.

        Also rooney is bound to score 99% this weekend. What say

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        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          No on cares
          Your telling me
          No. 79.153%

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          1. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            how do you calculate price rise or fall manually??

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            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Paper.
              Pencil.
              Abacus counting frame.

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  3. Mitchacho
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    In UCL fantasy I have 15.5 to spend on a mid and a forward. This will be for the first gameweek only (will probably switch to Shaqiri and Rooney), so you don't need to consider their long-term potential. I'm leaning towards Fabregas and A.Frei, but also considering Kagawa and Milito. Any other suggestions?

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  4. Juzzie
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Suarez is playing so amazingly well, fashioning chances out of nothing. He was an absolute livewire in the Stoke game. The only thing I can think is those transferring him out are not watching the football.

    Isn't it amazing? I see bandwagons to sell Suarez and Moses because they've played well but got no points for the last 3/4 weeks. Then I see bandwagons to buy SWP because he played well but got no points for the last week, or even better, RVP, because he didnt play well AND got no points for the last 4 weeks.

    Make sense much?

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    1. Just A Hat
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I'm starting to think a lot of people don't actually watch the games <_ Young

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        lol wth happened to that comment!

        - Suarez is a season keeper for me!

        - Also Nani > Young!

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I thought <_ Young was maybe some kind of shorthand for "Ashley Young is playing well but isn't actually as good as his form suggests" ha ha

          Can't understand the Suarez and Moses out moves, I think both will be good players over the course of a season, especially given their prices.

          The thing with RVP and SWP is that people know that form is temporary and class is permanent. You can choose to chase the Rooney/Young/Dzeckos but it's not just about how they scored in the last few weeks.

          I've no idea why so many people on here got Dzecko - I know he has the potential to score well when he plays but one of the basic principles of fantasy football is to get a player who plays most/every game... especially when you can have Silva for a million more.

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          1. Juzzie
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            "The thing with RVP and SWP is that people know that form is temporary and class is permanent."

            Please tell this to Gamst-Pedersen, Matt Taylor, Elano, Rosicky, Arshavin, Robbie Keane, Zhirkov and the man, Fernando Torres. In Fantasy football, Form is as important as Class, if not more.

            The key in FF is differentiating between form and a single good week for a player.

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            1. thetinkerman
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              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Ok, perhaps not SWP, but my point was that RVP was last season's highest score per minute/game player in the whole game (I if I remember correctly).

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              1. Juzzie
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                He always is, virtually every season. However don't forget Arsenal also used to be good, used to have self-belief and used to have geniuses in midfield for good service.

                Also note that his propensity for injury (understatement, I know) makes him a naturally poor FPL candidate.

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                1. thetinkerman
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                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  Agree with the former but the latter is irrelevant in my opinion.

                  You can still have him when he scores well then transfer him out when injured.

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      2. Jimrod™
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        I'm on the SWP bandwagon purely because I wanted him in this week but bottled it for Walcott. Every shot he had last night I was wincing and saying "don't score!", there were a lot of moments like that. It was a great game actually, like a good Championship match.

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        1. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Can anyone say whats wrong with gunners... they were pathetic last weekend against Swansea.

          Maybe CL would help them to bring them in form. RVP was the ace for last years season. Dont know when he will shine.

          I am keeping him and thinking of captaining him. Something diff as everyone will captain Rooney.

          Need your opinions guys and lads

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          1. thetinkerman
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            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Very popular topic on here! Comes down to form vs. ability to score points... both have the latter, only Rooney the former. RVP has the fixtures to do well but who knows.

            If you have RVP then give him a couple of weeks I'd say, I own him though so maybe I'm biased.

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    2. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      excellent thinking, many people dnt watch teh game or have access to 1 game per week. suarez have been an absolute masterclass the last 2 games, the best iv ever seen from a striker that ddnt score, and if it were to the last bonus system he wouldv bagged all of them.

      SWP is a combination of hleb and watcott
      dribble nonscore and runs 80 yards with the ball to make the worst decison ever at the end

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  5. Van Dal
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Mad wind keepin me awake

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  6. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Team ATM:

    Vorm, Rudd
    Kompany, Bosingwa, Enrique, De Laet, Simpson
    Young, Mata, Silva, Petrov, Dyer
    Suarez, Rooney, Ruiz

    Stupidly put in Ruiz last GW and now regretting it, thinking either:

    A). Downgrade Dyer to Ferguson and upgrade Ruiz to Odem (-4)

    Or

    B). Ruiz to Zamora

    Which to go with, any better choice?

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  7. Jafalad
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    SWP Opta stats.

    Of all midfielders, SWP:

    - most goal attempts
    - most key attempted assists
    - 2nd for successful crosses
    - 2nd on Creativity index
    - 1st on the Threat index
    - 2nd on the ICT index

    Summary: influential.

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Thks as always Jafs.

      Watchlist for now. Penciled in WC team.

      😉

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      1. Jafalad
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        That's just for this gameweek. Apart from goal attempts, Taraabt appears less of a threat.

        Any ideas where the boni going on the QPR/NEW game?

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    2. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      so if he did all that and ddnt managed to score/assist, i wonder how much he'll score in an average or bad game 😀

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      1. Jafalad
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        You can't really think like that. He'll gain points in other games if he continues to create/take this many opportunities.

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I would be worried about QPR's lack of ability to take chances though. Watched the game last night and I felt they let themselves down big time. So much good build up play and a few clear cut chances, but 0 goals.

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        2. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          wnt really bet on a player who havnt played 90 minutes for ages, always a risk of injury (hamstring most probably) and tireness or failing to manage his energy during 90 minutes. yesterdays game wasnt vey demanding defensively.
          and we only saw his against probably the worst |LB in teh league atm (r taylor) who is not a left back and was never good enough (defensively) as a rb

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          1. Jafalad
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            ...and who plays for a team that has already kept 3 clean sheets 😕

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            1. big oak
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              its not like they were playing united chelsea and city in those games, they play with 2 defensive mid players tiote and barton/ cabaye nowadays and 2 excellent CBs
              anw time will only tell

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                It is not like they will pay Man U, Chelsea or City every week will they!

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                1. big oak
                  • 16 Years
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                  u got me there 🙂

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                  1. The Finnisher
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    😀

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      2. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Waht about Adam, I will still keep him in my team. He will fail in one off games like Stroke

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    3. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Impressive... I see he had one shot cleared off the line too.

      *strokes beard thoughfully*

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    4. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He was mighty impressive, will knock taarabt of his pedestal a bit I think. Shoe in for QPR player of the year....so far 🙂

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    5. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Urgh he should/could have had a big big score. If Bothroyd had his shooting boots on any of about three SWP crosses should've been put in, and SWP had a shot cleared off the line. Very frustrating to only have 3 points out of it.

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  8. jimnastics
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Really impressed with qpr last night, and happy now to keep Taarabt... Thought he looked quality, as did swp, think both are great bargain picks and certainly worth the extra over Jarvis / cabaye / brunt.

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I need to chat to Atilla - Cabaye played very deep last night and was really not impressive. Made some shocking passes.

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      1. Van Dal
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yep i agree made some life ending passes and was playing so deep...

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      2. big oak
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        all newcastle team was shoking yesterday expet their CBs and tiote doing his usual thing. the likes of cabaye obertan ameobi ba best(exept for 1 attempt) jonas... do u remember any impressive move/pass/run/shot from any of them?

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed. Taarabt will be in the points sooner rather than later.

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    3. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      How taarabt hasn't scored yet baffles me after QPRs performance last night

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  9. yash
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    What about Sinclair is he playing well his price also dropped, is it worth keeping him??

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  10. Made of Stone
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    WC Team:

    Should I free up funds to upgrade Agbon?

    Ruddy/given
    Kompany, ShawX, brown, Enrique, Simpson
    Mata, Silva, Anderson, Cabaye, Petrov
    Roonster, Aguero, Agbon

    Thanx.

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Why Ruddy over Vorm??

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      1. Made of Stone
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Cash! 0.1 not there to spend.

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    2. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      i think agbon is doing fine, upgrading him to adebayor or odem wnt do wonders, i think doing smthn about anderson would be wiser with rotation threat coming all the way with CL fixtures

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Even with Cleverley out? You're on fire today 😛

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        1. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          yeah they have CL fixtures, fletcher is back fit (played 2 games for scotland last week), carrick will play and giggs is having more gametime lately in the middle than on the wings, u will see anderson regularly subbed out on the hour mark, or rested or coming off the bench

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            But assuming he got him for 6.0 he is better value than the rest around his price bracket

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            1. big oak
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              barton sess taarabt are some alternatives

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  11. TJ
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else having issues accessing 'my team' in UCL on Firefox 7?

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Firefox was causing a lot of problems for me. (Like no flash player) After being loyal to firefox since i starting using computers, i've switched to chrome. I suggest you do the same, Google are more competent.

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      1. ColeHole
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        No No a thousand times no!

        I'd say, if you love itunes / facebook, chrome may be perfect for you.

        If you want a competent web browser, stick with firefox. 7.0 no good you say? Wait the week for 7.1 to come out.

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        1. TJ
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          +1

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  12. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Does anyone know if Santon or Woodgate will play next week?

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    1. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      watching how slow r taylor was yesterday, i think santon will be in there even on 1 leg
      woodgate is always a maybe, might play since he wnt play in europe fixture (not registered) if he's fit

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Reason being i have 1 free sub and i want to save it.
        I need to choose 3 from:

        Santon(avl-a)
        Ward(qpr-h)
        Woodgate(sun-a)
        Brown(sto-h)
        Dyer(wba-h)
        brunt(swa-a)

        I would have picked ward but qpr looked very good. Not sure who to pick! Any help?

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          *sorry, to pick for GW5 (i don't want transfers unless i must)

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        2. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          if ur team is good enough for this week, leave it and a double will be more than welcome next week

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Which 3 out of the 6 subs would you pick.

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            1. big oak
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              brunt wood dyer

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              1. Piggs Boson
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                i need at least two defenders. Sorry! So brunt or dyer?

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                1. big oak
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  dyer, they gotta score at some point and there is 50% chance he will be involved in it

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      2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        LOL R Taylor bombed forward and looks dangerous from set pieces...as with last night santon not guaranteed to start....plus santon is primarily a RB...don't understand the signing whatsoever....

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        1. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          did u see how many times coloccini called him to explain him positioning and mistakes? or howw many times he covered his mistakes on swp?
          if santon can play both sides then he will nailed LB and r taylor and simpson will rotate based on the opposition

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            I hope so. Do you have Santon?

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            1. big oak
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              not before i see him guaranteed to start

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          2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Better the devil you know...but i guess you have a point...newcastle's defence has been rubbish this year so best to start chopping and changing...oh wait...

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            1. Juzzie
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              The defence has been great, but that has had very little to do with Ryan Taylor.

              I'm wondering whether a position switch would be good for him, like it did for Gareth Bale. The lad's set pieces are brilliant, but his defending is dismal.

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      no-one knows. probably not even Pulis or Pardew.

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  13. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

    Chicharito, Lampard, and Arteta

    or

    Rooney, Mata, and Song

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  14. The ghost of a Pug's g…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Can't believe suarez dropped in value without a warning :/

    Thinking of dropping dzeko and suarez for aguero and klasnic...anyone with me?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      no way
      Why would you drop Dzeko now? He is almost a certain to play next week

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        +1 Less knee-jerking! He should play next week end and is bound to score! He should play more than every other week which should justify his small value

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        1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Small value at 8.7mill when i could have adebayor (8) and klasnic (6.2) who are even better value and play EVERY week. Sheer madness

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Sorry i have adebayor so i guess i have no one to transfer him too, i don't want a bolton striker. Even so, dzeko didn't play in the premiership this weekend, he will play the next, i can almost garrentee it, players in top usually play twice in one week.

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              *top teams

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      2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        No...hes almost certain to play midweek

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Im not arguing with you, as i am getting rid of him GW6, but dont get rid of him this week as you will get to see how possible replacements play. I see Dzeko playing this week, no way he gets rested 2 weeks in a row.
          Klasnic, i dunno, Adebayor yes...

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        2. Beamer
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          So if Dzeko plays on wed, he wont start this weekend against Fulham.. Is it?

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            No way

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          2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
            • 15 Years
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            Possibly...

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            1. The Finnisher
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Possible, but i highly doubt it

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        3. Fratboy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          What and never play in the premier league again? He'll play a bit of both I reckon

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            No he wont.
            He is clearly not an elite athlete and has never played more than 1 game a week so obviously he cant play any more premier league games until Man City's cup games are over 😉

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            1. Fratboy
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              😀

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  15. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hate wasting transfers on a GK, but is there any better move than Hilario -> Given for me this week?

    Ruddy, Hilario
    Bosingwa, Dunne, Simpson, Senderos, Brown
    Silva, Nani, Sessegnon, Sinclair, Moses
    Suarez, Dzeko, RVP
    Bank 0.6m

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Oh, and I just have 1 free transfer and my w/c still in tact...

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      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Ruddy is playing this weekend Jinswick his ban was only one game if you really don't want to use your TF. I do agree you could do with another keeper though.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Hilario -> Begovic

      He hit double figures this week.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Oh wait! RVP to ROONEY!! Who cares about fixtures!

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        1. Jinswick
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I've gone this far and need to make up ground on Rooney owners, so will leave him for a few weeks. Cue a hat-trick vs Chelsea...

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            You will regret those words, but we'll see. Arsenal may start play like barca, and Man u may start playing like Arsenal. I can't see it but still.

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    3. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      You need a gk and you need Rooney, JW. Those are your two transfers for this week.

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  16. Jake9
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Should I keep Brunt or trade to Anderson/Cabaye?

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Keep Brunt. He is captain and should play every week from now on. Cabaye isn't a good FPL prospect, he plays too deep. Anderson is an ok bet but most of man u's assists will come from the wings and rooney. And i can't see anderson scoring many.

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    2. Beamer
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Keep Brunt.

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  17. Here We Go Again
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    anyone know if the http://www.premierleague.com/page/PlayerPerformanceIndex has been updated for last night's match? Checked a few newcastle players on the top 100 and it appears they are all on the same of +1/-1 off from the previos points - a bit strange..

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  18. Beamer
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Does anyone fancy Bale here?

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I don't know what all the girls see in him to be honest

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    2. thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Hmmmm... difficult to say. At 7.9m I'd want to see some form to bring him in. When he's on form he's a good shout but until then I'm staying away.

      Don't let the fact that no-one on here has him in their RMTs put you off though!

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      1. Juzzie
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Doesn't seem to have stopped people from bringing in RVP last week, despite his 12.0 price tag. At 12.0 I'd want to see some form to bring him in. When he's on form he's a good shout but until then...

        Oh wait.

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        1. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          You obviously feel strongly about this Juzzie and are willing to chase down anyone who says otherwise but RVP is not totally off form.

          He's had 10 shots (5 on target), one goal and one bonus point (plus he's showed some form in the CL and internationals)

          Bale has had 6 shots, 1 on target and no fantasy returns.

          In my opinion RVP shows more promise of hitting form but if you disagree then that's your choice!

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          1. thetinkerman
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Plus he's on set-pieces 😉

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          2. Juzzie
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            No I don't really mind if people have RVP, I just don't like that a line of logic can be applied to one player and ignored for another, like what people are doing with Moses or Suarez which is in contrast to their behaviour with SWP, and you have done with Bale in contrast to RVP. And I think I will continue to satirise such discrepancies from anyone.

            If you notice I'm not chasing down everyone, and was going to be quiet if you didn't bring in this argument. If someone else had made this point about Bale it makes total sense, but from you it seems directly at odds with your RVP choice.

            Your point was that if a player is expensive, you'd want to see some form to bring him in. RVP is extremely expensive and hardly has shown any semblance of form warranting that price. If you applied the same logic you did with Bale, you'd probably not have RVP.

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            1. thetinkerman
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              I do have RVP so perhaps I'm a little biased 😛

              Still, the stats would suggest he's got a good chance of scoring and he's not totally off form, plus RVP has been THE must have player over the last few seasons (when fit) so I stick by my statement! I think he's a different prospect to Bale, who has had good spells of form and scoring but hasn't really been consistent and doesn't look like hitting form. Plus I gave my opinion I didn't tell him not to get Bale in.

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              1. Juzzie
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                Valid points.

                Do note that RVP has never been THE must have player. I had him on a hot streak a couple seasons back, but his inevitable injury 3 GWs midway meant it was awfully short and taxed my free transfers.

                Pedersen, Matt Taylor, Bullard, Elano, Adebayor, Berbatov, Drogba, Baines, Hangeland, Dunne, CRon, Gerrard, Lamps have all been must-haves. RVP never stayed fit long enough to be season-impacting like them.

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    3. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Where is he playing? Midfield? Does it matter?

      Maybe with a run of fixtures he might come into that form we saw last time.

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      1. Beamer
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Worth a try... lets see

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    4. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bale = Baines minus penalties, minus 3 points for clean sheets, minus 1 point for goals scored.

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      1. Beamer
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        U r very smart chap... Keep it up. When he gets some goals you will jump on him for sure

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        1. Jönny
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Just giving my opinion mate. Sorry it's not as eloquent or thought-provoking as your "Worth a try... lets see" ....

          Bale is currently nowhere near my watchlist. If he bangs in a few goals then yes, I might well "jump on him" but here's a pop quiz for you: when did Gareth Bale score his last league goal?

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          1. Just A Hat
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            January!

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            1. Jönny
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Indeed, New Years Day in fact, at home to Fulham.

              But yeah, he's worth a try... let's see.

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              1. Beamer
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                Do u know how many ppl bought in Dzeko/ Walcott / Persie (Epic fail) this gw... Apart from that do you know how many of them choose Van persie/ walcott as captain after Arsenal were &&& whipped by Man UTD.

                Bale might have scored his last goal last Jan. But he s a class and spurs got a better team now with parker and adebayor and defoe getting his goal scoring act, so it might help Bale as well for an assist/ goal. That 's what im thinking mate.

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  19. Fratboy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Jafa/Christ

    Wildcard GW7? surely it's better to wait to GW11? Please, fill me in 🙂

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    1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Whats the GW11 significance?

      I think the GW7 idea is due to another international break, its currently my plan.

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      1. Fratboy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        The fixtures seem to shift a fair bit in GW11, just looks like a good time! But the second international break does seem to make more sense than the first for a WC, unless your team was a shambles!

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        1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Ah i see what you mean. Care to elaborate on the fixture shift? Do you mean a lot of teams go from bad runs to good and vica versa? Examples?

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          1. Fratboy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Gimme 10, got morning stuff to do 🙄

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          2. Fratboy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            United, Arsenal, Spurs, City and a few other teams is all. Sorry really busy today!

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Well I think sooner is better than later particularly as we get another in weeks 21-28.

      My plan is to w/c in the International break after week 7. It worked out well for me last year. By then, we 'll have a better and more reliable idea of player performances. Plus you have the advantage of 2 weeks of price rises.

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      1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        You gonna pull the trigger Saturday, and load up on those players that have a good show that day? I think this is the way of things.

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        1. Jafalad
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          What, kneejerkery? 😯

          Never.

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  20. The ghost of a Pug's g…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Going to come on later. Getting the stup1d vibes on here

    Last week i was told:

    Take rooney out for RVP
    Captain RVP
    I'm an id1ot if i don't have walcott
    I have too many newcastle defenders
    Baines isn't worth the money

    This morning the consensus is:

    Have dzeko coz he will play parts/every other game ahead of either adebayor or klasic (LOL)
    R Taylor will be dropped next week (newcastles defence is just awful isn't it?
    Everyone should have SWP coz he was the most influential player in a game that finished 0.0 (If thats the case i don't want his influence in my team thanks...another sessegnon/taarabt/sinclair bandwagon)

    Utter nonesense.

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Everyone has an opinion, you should be so easily led 🙄

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      1. Fratboy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Lol *shouldn't

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    2. Browndog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      here endith the lesson

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I told you he would play this weekend and than transfer him so i hope you are referring to me 😉

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    3. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Here is some salt, now take a pinch of it...there now you are set up to receive opinions from others. 😀

      End of the day fella, its your team. I try to pool all the suggestions and thoughts given here and then filter out those that I think make sense. Thats what makes this site great.

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      1. Browndog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        i agree, i also make a rule that if a person posting has not got their team linked, it means jack shizen, i like to see some proof they are actually playing the game, they dont need to be scoring well for me to get something out of it tho. as we all have seen this season

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        1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Good rule. In fact...top rule! I want one just like it. Where did you get your rule from? Its ace. I'm going to tell all of my friends.

          COOL RULE!!!!!!!!

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    4. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jy is nie lekker in jou kop nie my ou.

      😕

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    5. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Seem to remember that I gave you some advice last week JD and you agreed with it.
      The next day you'd changed your mind!

      Go with your gut instinct...and trust it!

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      1. The ghost of a Pug's g…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I did. Normally on a forum there is some level of decent advice. On here there is just monkey shit been flung everywhere.

        This place was intelligable last year with a great deal of thought being put into opinions. This year theres either a bandwagon or a knee jerk. NOTHING inbetween.

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        1. Chairboy
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          My view is you know YOUR football, go with your initial/gut thinking - by all means listen to the ramblings on here but at the end of the day, like any Manager, its your call. Over the first 4 weeks i have analysed "My gut feeling" v "bandwagoning/knee jerky" and guess what.................. yeah, I should listen to myself far more than I listen to others (cept my wife...)

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        2. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          You don't have to take on board something you disagree with and if there's something you wanna discuss, start a discussion!

          Not fair to say that there's no thoughtful discussions going on.

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        3. big oak
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Ahhhh so last year u were one of those who jumped on the bandwagons and they all worked (except kolarov) this year it isnt working that well with u since the choices are wider and the prices are higher...
          welcome to the real FPl my friend

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  21. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I just realised how similar the value changes are to internet poker.

    The only reason people make money in internet poker, is because there are a lot of others who are really bad at playing.

    The only reason prices go up so quick is because there are a lot of people jerking those knees.

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      +1

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    2. The ghost of a Pug's g…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      You call it knee jerk. Others call it putting the in form players in ur team.

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      1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        True, but major points hits with only 4GWs gone seems like knee jerking to me. I have seen a lot of that.

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  22. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    WHERE THE F*CK IS THE FIFA 12 DEMO IM BORED AS F*CK AND MY GF IS OVERSEAS! 🙁

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    1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Hiding behind the PES demo mate...

      *ducks and covers for the impending PESvsFIFA flame war*

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    2. RedNev
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Zombie Highway is the shite! And it's free.

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    3. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2 hours to go. 😀

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Really? :O
        p.s Jimmy, PES sucks 😛

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        1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Ah there we go it has started. 😀

          I am just nostalgic mate, too many days playing PES on the sofa with my mates during its 'glory days'. I picked up FIFA09 and FIFA10, but PES has really turned a corner so I am supporting the underdog.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Haha to be honest i don't really know how it is, never really given it a shot, all i know is im keen to check out these new features on fifa 12 and i am WAITING GOD DAMMIT!

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            1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              Well i would suggest, if you are a football game fan, that you at least give PES the time of day. Maybe rent it or borrow it, but give it a few games. It is a different feel, but it might be proffered.

              I wish EA would release the 'Ultimate Team' as a stand alone game. I really like that but don't fancy buying the full FIFA.

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              1. The Finnisher
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                I will give it a shot, what are the main differences?

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                1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  Well i find the main difference is the depth of the game modes. Master League is the main one, and you start with a team of no hopers and have to build them up to the top. It just has a greater sense of achievement i found than manager mode in FIFA.

                  AI has been improved this year, and is said to be the best. FIFA obviously has all hte licences, but PES does have a community of kit/logo makers if you don't mind waiting for the updates.

                  In general too PES seems to have better player individuality. So Messi will feel different from Rooney.

                  Thats the best i can summarise but obviously just my opinion.

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              2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                Torrent rocks. 😀

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                1. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  Yes torrents doo rock, but as a game dev myself. Please please please buy the games you like, and buy them first hand, because the industry needs supporting.

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  23. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Vorm(WBA-h) but up against odemwingie & Long

    OR

    Krul(AVL-a) up against a poor aston villa attack.

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Im going with Vorm (have Given though)
      Swansea look good defensively so far

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  24. Scroobius Mac
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    63 pts despite giving RVP the arm band - yeah I'll take that. Fairly sure I don't need to make any fixtures this week but if somebody could tkae a cursory glance and let me know that would be appreciated.
    Vorm
    Brown Ward Warnock
    Mata Silva Taarabt Brunt
    RVP Rooney Adebayor
    Subs: Kenny, Dyer, Bosingwa, Simpson

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Ward. 😀

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      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        ? Wolves have QPR at home. It looks OK to me Mac.

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    2. Just A Hat
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      You seem to have an unusallly strong team, I am impressed :O

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks. If I could end this streak of awful captain choices I might get somewhere.

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  25. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know why Brunt didn't start the last match?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      2 internationals mid week

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    2. Beamer
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      This was answered like 1000 times yesterday

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      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        😯

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        1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          😀 Good Balls.

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      2. thetinkerman
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Perhaps if there was a function to tag players in posts, you could quickly filter the comments from the last 24 hours or so to only the ones containing Brunt and it would save these redundant questions (no having a go, I know it can be a pain to scroll through the previous comments searching for discussions)

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          ctrl + 'f' then type 'brunt'

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          1. thetinkerman
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Obviously, but my point is that it would be interesting if there was some kind of organisation the the posts - perhaps by team, player, fixture etc. and even off-topic stuff (e.g. cricket, rugby)

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            1. Juzzie
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 8 months ago

              It's called a forum. That's the logical way of sorting all these discussions.

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              1. thetinkerman
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 8 months ago

                Exactly. I am proposing a forum rather than just comments under an article.

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                1. Juzzie
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 8 months ago

                  Forum and tagging are two entirely different methods of classification which serve different purposes.

                  Your initial post seems to be asking for a tag system, (which is good, btw, nothing wrong with it because more organisation would help), but how you can say "exactly. I am proposing a forum" from that makes zero sense. Maybe you thought it, but there's nothing in your initial post to suggest you were proposing a forum at all.

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                  1. thetinkerman
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 8 months ago

                    Sorry Pedantic Paul

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        2. Just A Hat
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          There should be just an FAQ article every week that covers questions such as

          Why was Brunt dropped?

          Will Walcott get an assist for no reason?

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          1. Jönny
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Come on, that was a clear assist!! Read the rules!

            Not going for it?

            Nah, me neither... I had him as captain and did think "well, stranger things have happened..." but never actually expected to get it.

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  26. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Captin choice is tough.

    1. Walcott vs Blackburn(away)
    2. Dzeko/Nasri vs Fulham(away)
    3. Rooney vs Chelsea(home)

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Im going Dzeko 😐

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      1. Beamer
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Dzeko/ Nasri/ Baines

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    2. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Tough choice? Surely you have tattooed that arm band on Rooney by now? Set it and leave if, I would if i had him.

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    3. Dave Bauer
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      It's not tough, it hasn't been tough since the first week.

      Rooney.

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    4. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Rooney.
      The day he stop scoring i will stop cap him . 😀

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    5. big oak
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      ill wait for the CL games to decide

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  27. Ole Gunnar Kush
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I was at the Arsenal vs Swansea game and Sinclair looked very average, so im selling him.

    Sinclair - Wright-Phillips??

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  28. thivagar
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    hey guys,

    this is my current midfield:
    sessengon silva dyer brunt moses

    should i give sess one more week or should i trade him out? if so,for who?thx

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    1. Ole Gunnar Kush
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      give him another week. wright-phillips looked good last night and he's the same price

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  29. NANI screamer screaming !!!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    can anybody share UCL fantasy team....i need major help...plzzzz

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    1. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Go back to Andy's Champions League article, there's a shed load of teams there to copy. Or, you could just make one yourself.

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      1. NANI screamer screaming !!!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        ohkay thnkx bubbles...i will search in it 🙂 cheers

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Neuer
      Koscielny, Ricardo Costa, Diawara, Paulo Jorge
      Mata, Nasri, Song
      Rooney(C), Messi, Ronaldo

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  30. NANI screamer screaming !!!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    any update on QPR - newcastle bonus ?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      About ten I think.

      Open Controls
      1. NANI screamer screaming !!!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        HUH !!!! 🙁

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