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Sunday Dugout Discussion

23 October 2011 2353 comments
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Coming down from the highs of cheering captain Luis Suarez in person to a magnificent two point tally will be hard to do, but, this Sunday, the Dugout Discussion has come good with all sorts of tasty fixtures that will soon cleanse any palette…

There are three early kick-offs at 1:30pm today as we keep track of some top ties – the Manchester derby chief amongst them. All the following line-ups are sourced from the Premier League (@premierleague).

Fergie has named the same back-line as which drew at Liverpool while recalling Anderson, Nani and Wayne Rooney to his starting line-up. Roberto Mancini has kept the faith with Mario Balotelli while he can also call on a fit again Sergio Aguero. Teams in full are…

United XI: De Gea, Evra, Ferdinand, Evans, Smalling, Fletcher, Anderson, Nani, Young, Rooney, Welbeck.

City XI: Hart, Richards, Clichy, Lescott, Kompany, Milner, Barry, Yaya Toure, Silva, Aguero, Balotelli.

Arsene Wenger said he’ll have to rest Robin Van Persie eventually – he has now. Opting instead for the brute force of Marouanne Chamakh against Stoke. Captain Ryan Shawcross will likely find himself up against Aaron Ramsey at some point today. Teams in full are…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Mertesacker, Santos, Koscielny, Djourou, Arteta, Song, Walcott, Ramsey, Gervinho, Chamakh.

Stoke XI: Begovic, Shawcross, Wilkinson, Upson, Whelan, Etherington, Wilson, Delap, Whitehead, Crouch, Walters.

Fulham make a widespread amount of changes from their midweek European team while David Moyes gives loan signing Royston Drenthe his first start as well as super sub Apostolos Vellios. Teams in full are…

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Baird, Riise, Hangeland, Grygera, Murphy, Sidwell, Dempsey. Dembele, Johnson, Zamora.

Everton XI: Howard, Distin, Baines, Hibbert, Jagielka, Neville, Fellaini, Rodwell, Osman, Drenthe, Vellios.

As these games either enter the dying embers or reach a heady climax the fourth game of the day will kick off as Harry Redknapp tries to keep on pressing up the table with a trip to Ewood Park. QPR playing host to Chelsea will then round out the gameweek on all good television screens.

A whole host of opportunities today with a wide array of fixtures and top teams to savour in the Dugout Discussion. Here’s hoping the stars can live up to their billing.

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  1. DV8R
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    On 51 with none to play and with bonuses to be awarded...decent.

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    1. super zlatan
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      Decent score

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    2. gailyh71
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      56 with 3 to play and my captaining playing now

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  2. David Davros
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    Might finally suck it up and get Silva in for Nani this week. Absolutely immense performance from him.

    Sad that for him his fantasy returns don't come close to reflecting his quality on the pitch.

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    1. SkyByBo
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      Still, 10pts away to man u isnt too shabby!

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      1. maltasi
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        Nice thing next Sat is United play at midday. Therefore before the 11.30am deadline, we will be able to see if Nani starts at Everton. If he does, I'm going to give him another week. United are often never more dangerous than after a defeat. Chance too of Silva being rested at home to Wolves, with the UCL 3 days later?

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  3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Have to congratulate City. A real force, serious team and squad they've got there now.

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    1. SkyByBo
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      Have to question the massive lack of quality man u have in center midfield, completely dominated again today, just like last weekend. Fletcher and anderson arent fit to shine David Silvas boots!

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      1. Somalion
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        I was saying it pre season, United didn't need more wingers. We needed a strong centre. Should have pushed for Sneijder. Ever since Cleverly got injured we have lacked any kind of attacking potency.

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      2. Hate that rotation
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        Well anderson isnt. £18m for a defensive midfield when he was meant to be a dynamic central midfielder who could drive past defenders. I remember the hype when we first got him.

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        1. Somalion
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          If he's stop stuffing his face with big macs he might be good.

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      3. Samwise the Brave
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        +100000 Agreed, UTD really,really needed snjeder, Their lack of creativity is astonishing, although in fletcher's defence he's there to tackle not rip defences apart. Anderson is improving but is nowhere near ready to be a first teamer(neither is cleverly). David silva's boots are made of gold, while all of united centre mids are made of lead.(I'm a utd fan, really needed to vent)

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        1. Somalion
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          Ha I can understand, I personally have decided to climb a church tower with a sniper rifle and see what happens.

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          1. Samwise the Brave
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            There's Balotelli,theres Balotelli,theres Balotelli, oh a Dzeko to,Anderson Bang!

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            1. Somalion
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              He's Evans, he's Evans too. That dog is Evans. There's Anderson. DIE!

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    2. Somalion
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      Yep, in fairness they have used the money well. That team is very very strong.

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    3. Hate that rotation
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      I'd prefer to congratulate Everton for a good away win at Fulham.

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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        of course you would - man u fans are just as unsporting as their team

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        1. Somalion
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          Don't see how I've been unsporting at all.

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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            not you at all

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            1. Somalion
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              Ha good, I was nearly crying over that 😛

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        2. Hate that rotation
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          Im just giving everton some credit. Why you gotta go on the attack? You an everton hater or something?

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      +1

      7/4 on Utd to win the title is good value, though - already played City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs, those odds are only going to get worse with the fixtures we've got in the next 10 or so weeks.

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      1. A2U
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        +1

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  4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    Funny old game isnt it? Just when you think the season cant get any stranger

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  5. Dartsfan501
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    Nani > VDV a good call or is M Petrov > Pilkington the better one

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    1. tommohawk
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      I will be doing Nani>VDV I think!

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      1. Dartsfan501
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        Got adebayor tho still worth it ...

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  6. gunners2011
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    How do these trades sound? Rooney out for Balotelli and Ramsey out for VDV

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    1. super zlatan
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      Think your knee is jerking too much. How about I give u a pair of crutches instead?

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      1. gunners2011
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        ok how about nani for vdv? I JUST WANT TO BRING IN VDV

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        1. Feanor
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          Assuming he's fit, do it. He has QPR at home.

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  7. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
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    45 with Lampard(C) still to go

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  8. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    is it madness to keep nasri ?

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    1. Samwise the Brave
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      No with all the rotation he will proberly start against wolves

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  9. SPorting
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    ladies and gentlemen.....it's KNEEJERK time!

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    1. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
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      Was going to say, this is going to be painful!

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  10. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Keeping nani and nasri

    I wont knee jerk

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    1. jimnastics
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      If Nasri doesn't start midweek in the CC, he'll start against Wolves and could go absolutely nuts.

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  11. sackenfox
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    zomg. what a day. and i captained gerrard.

    I didn't think i was too terrible at this fpl lark, but if my season wasn't over already it definitely is now.
    decided on rvp over rooney at the start of the season- fail.
    so swapped rvp for rooney- fail.
    made myself NOT swap back rvp for 4 pt hit, didn't want to do another knee-jerk trade - fail.
    desperately wanted vdv but decided to settle for bale, FAIL.

    every captain choice i've made this season apart from bent one week - EPIC FAIL.

    On the bright side.... nope, I got nothing.

    So out of desperation for any points anytime soon, can anyone tell me who had assists in the citeh and arsenal games? obviously cannot check fpl.

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    1. sackenfox
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      nvm, its working now, and I have calmed down a little...

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  12. Andy
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    Kind of don't want to watch this Chelsea game but for it just being "good" and tarnishing the fantastical I've just witnessed.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      aye +1 but ive still got bos and stur to play, need a clean sheet at the v least pllllleaaaasssseee godm tripling up on newcastle defense would just be ridic lol 😉

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    2. denial
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      'tarnishing the fantastical I've just witnessed?'

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  13. bigwig
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    Sturridge has a lot to do to vindicate my Dzeko->Sturridge move. im sure there are plenty others on here that did the same

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    1. Elniñorules
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      +1

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  14. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
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    Absolutely glorious!

    The 'bunker' is overloaded with 4 year old united fans!

    David oh dear gets nutmegged twice and concedes 6, making only 1 save. He is really good I promise!!!

    And most united fans should learn the offside rule, re the fourth goal.

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    1. Mull
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      Are you the head of the ABU's

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    2. CFCTom
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      😀 Quite a few noob United fans (what else would they be?) on here. +1

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        scouts: is there any way to set another forum user on ignore?

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    3. applebonkers
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      vintage STB

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  15. Gargamel
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    What a goal that was from Ruiz. Wow

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  16. Pratik
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    glad how things turned out on the fantasy end (even though brown with 8pts is warming his ass on the bench). also glad that rvp was the angel on duty today.
    I was always going to be playing any utd/city attacking player i would have had. This match had goals written over it. The silva one was coming (at least an assist)
    The 6-1 humiliation is gonna hit utd hard. But as long as its a match full of good goals, it's hard to remain pissed. fletcher's was a beauty. And yup, silva is a masterclass.
    City vs Barca/Madrid is gonna be fun.

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    1. Pratik
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      This is me just blurting out on the keyboard. ignore.

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  17. CRAZY TRAIN
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    Currently on 52 with Sturridge and Bosingwa to play (+ BPs). Happy with that...

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    1. tangtastic
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      .. pretty much the same. Kinda regretting benching silva for petrov, but can't complain really. i knew (or thought I knew) what I was doing.

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  18. goneill79
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    what a day so far!!! top 10,000 must be on.practically giddy!!!

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  19. tangtastic
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    49pts with Sturrige and Bosingwa and bps to go.

    How's everyone else doing so far?

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      40 with sturrige and mata left and RVp bps

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    2. SuarezSaurusRex
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      im 46. with boss and ade left to play. imagine what the score would be if i stick with rvp(c) instead of suarez.

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    3. MYTWOCENTS
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      48 with Bos, Mata and Sturridge to play. Very happy with that

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    4. tezzaboy7
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      48 with VDV (c) playing atm plus Mata, Sturridge and Bos to play. This are looking up :p (finally)

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  20. JonesBones
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    Currently on 54 with VDV, Adebayor, Bos and BP still coming! Nice!

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    1. tangtastic
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      you'll clear 70+ comfortably. nice one

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      1. JonesBones
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        Thanks!

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  21. Pratik
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    mertesacker + mata + odemwingle
    to boyota/cahill+vdv+suarez/..

    which transfer should i make? am not so sure on suarez since he has just 2 easy fixtures, after that they are rotten?
    Please give advice fast.

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    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
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      Hang on to Suarez for those two games if you must, then downgrade to a 6.5-7.5 striker that you can then rotate over the season depending on fixtures while holding Rooney/RVP, and use the spare funds to boost the midfield

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      1. Pratik
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        interesting. i have 1ft this week with 1.2 in the bank. So i am not planning all 3 transfers. just what i need. so mata->vdv can be an independent transfer. but odem to suarez will not happen without me downgrading(if u can call it that) mertesacker to boyota.
        So if you could suggest a cheap striker, now it would be great.

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        1. Paul Psychic Octopus
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          Bendtner or Sturridge

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    2. MYTWOCENTS
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      Watch the Chelsea game before you ship Mata imo

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      1. Pratik
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        k. i am just planning if i take a 8pt hit with the exception of moses, i love my team. it's perfect.

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  22. Paul Psychic Octopus
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    If City were that much better than Man U, how good does that make Bayern Munich look in the Champions League this season?

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    1. McDog
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      Bayern are a quality team, serious contenders this year I think.

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    2. David Davros
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      It obviously doesn't work like that though, does it?

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    3. SkyByBo
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      Well it always takes teams time to adapt to a new competition and different styles of football, man city clearly had a LOT of nerves going out against Bayern where as away to Man U, even though its a very hard game, they are comfortable going out.

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    4. Pratik
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      then according to you, this can work the other way too
      so united defeat arsenal 8-1........and then city defeat united 6-1.....
      hmmm.......cant wait to see city take on arsenal.....

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      1. Pratik
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        but surely arsenal are not bad. Hence bayern are not that great. They are as decent as last year.

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      2. Paul Psychic Octopus
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        no, I'm not saying that, obviously. But it does put it into some context that I think Bayern are a SERIOUS threat to Barcelona this year; the team seems to be much better than last year (funnily enough, without Robben getting much game time)

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  23. Screaming Midget
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    I'm on 48 with Bos and Sturridge to go... and VDV to finish vs Rovers + BPs.

    A chelsea CS or a Sturridge goal should safely see me over the minimum target of 60.

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  24. McDog
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    Come on Drogs you owe me some goals, Bosingwa long overdue a cleanie too.

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  25. Anorak
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    I saw a sick swan this afternoon.

    As an owner of Richards, Silva and Džeko in various fantasy formats, I was pretty pleased at the bird's misfortune.

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  26. David Davros
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    Curious to know. If you had to be without one of these players, which would you choose? (trying to take a long term view on the question)

    RVP, Rooney, Nani, Aguero, Silva

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    1. Fray Bentos
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      right now - nani or rooney

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      1. David Davros
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        That's what I'm thinking.

        Wondering whether a Nani > Silva straight swap would be better than doing Rooney > Sturridge and then Hoolahan > Silva, and keeping Nani.

        United have some pretty tasty fixtures upcoming though as well. Don't want to knee-jerk and then regret it. I'm expecting United to bounce back.

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        1. sackenfox
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          i think you'd be very silly dropping your man u players based on this result..

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          1. David Davros
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            Its not about dropping anyone, it's about trying to fit Silva in - someone would have to make way

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    2. McDog
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      It would have to be Aguero I think, too much of a rotation risk so you can never really be confident captaining him.

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      1. David Davros
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        Really? He's started except when he was inured.

        I'd feel more confident captaining him than Silva or Nani tbh.

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        1. McDog
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          Sorry yeah forgot he was injured against Villa, Maybe Nani then since Rooney is plenty of United cover.

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    3. Le Bluff
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      Would have to be Nani for me.

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    4. sackenfox
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      probably aguero/nani
      rvp is arsenals only consistent points scorer (if he's not injured.)
      man u have unbelievable run of fixtures coming and rooney will start practically every game
      silva is a must have i think
      aguero and nani seem to be rotation risks.

      but i know nothing this year.

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    5. David Davros
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      Thanks for the thoughts all.

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  27. More Cowbell
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    Lol at Joey Barton finding out the Manc Derby score in the tunnel!

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    1. CFCTom
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      Haha, yeah that made me laugh.

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  28. Le Bluff
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    Missed Moses' price drop last night - livid! FISO and totalfpl had him around 80%. Guess players must drop quicker in value than they rise.

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  29. The Dude
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    Walker or ShawX for at least next 4

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    1. David Davros
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      I like Walker alot, don't really like Spur's as a defensive prospect though

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      Im thinking both for a 4 point hit.

      That's my first mistake though - thinking.

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      1. Screaming Midget
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        Sorry... misread that as Walters

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    3. McDog
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      Shawx by a mile, avoid our defence when Ledley King is injured.

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    4. Jukesy
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      Tottenham's defence is quite poor, too many injuries.

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  30. gunners2011
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    On 45 with Bosingwa and Sturridge + BP's, pissed at not having vdv

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