The Knee Jerk
29 October 2011 3157 comments
Mark Mark
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The concept of a player being fixture proof in Fantasy football is a much discussed topic around these parts. Wayne Rooney put forward a strong case a few gameweeks back, defying United’s tricky opening to the season with a points tally that left all but Sergio Aguero in his wake. Today, Robin Van Persie perhaps presented even stronger evidence that, when a player has talent and form, no opposition can stand in their way.

Van Persie is certainly a force of nature right now. Seven goals in his last three games have propelled him to the top of every Fantasy manager’s most wanted list. The Dutchman, along with Rooney and Aguero, have all enjoyed devastating spells of form this season. Any Fantasy manager who has failed to catch at least one of them, surely finds themselves floundering.

Ironically, it’s Wayne Rooney who has been hugely overshadowed by Van Persie’s recent returns. Today at Goodison, Rooney dropped alarmingly deep, as Alex Ferguson charged Danny Welback and Javier Hernandez to push on. In Fantasy terms, certainly as far as our own ICT Index is concerned, Rooney suffered his least effective 90 minutes of the season – the numbers are there – our Members can see for themselves.

Van Persie meanwhile, made a mockery of the fixture list which told us that a trip to Chelsea would pose him problems; that perhaps he couldn’t maintain his recent form at Stamford Bridge. Friday night’s decision to go with Van Persie over Sergio Aguero in the Scout Picks wasn’t taken lightly. We suspected that the Chelsea defence would be unable to keep the Dutchman at bay. Nobody could have predicted the havoc he would cause, the delicious end product he would deliver.

In three games, Van Persie has returned 36 Fantasy Premier League points – a tally that will surely increase with bonus points on Monday and perhaps the award of an assist for Theo Walcott’s goal. In contrast, Rooney has produced 5 points over the same three gameweeks. When you throw in the captaincy, that’s a big swing and painful reading for those who held Rooney with faith that his undoubted talent and early season form would see him through.

Conveniently, then, that takes us full circle. While Van Persie has done so much today to prove the theory that, with class and form, the opposition is irrelevant, Rooney’s recent returns present strong evidence of the contrary. The matches against Liverpool, City and Everton looked tough for Rooney- five points is certainly proof of that. Another twist in what is rapidly becoming a fascinating Fantasy season.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. @ImpressiveTackl
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry for the self obsession, but feel like celebrating as I am on course for my 6th green arrow in arow and a rise of 900,000 places in 6 gameweeks.

    Hit an all time low of 1.25 million as overall rank in GW3. Hopefully VDV(c) and Adebayor can push me up to the top 250k to make it a jump of 1 million places.

    😎

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
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      😀 well in mate. slowly but surely. ive went from 942,432 to 173,891 so i'm equally as happy 🙂

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
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        well done KOL. Us lot from the fixture loving crowd seem to be hauling back the form followers.

        Party on.

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          Party on 🙂

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          1. FPL Daniel
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            Can I join the party please?

            From 1,278,131 to 175,859 last week 😀 Now before the captain playing tomorrow in first 190k, massive climbing and I am happy. Where is that lad who said that if u r above top 1m u can't recover, no chance. That guy with the regular posters league I assume.

            Cheers everybody

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    2. McDog
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      What was your rank this time last year IT ?

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        14th

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      2. J0E
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        It was an impressive 14 th. this guy knows his stuff and will continue climbing up the rankings.

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        1. McDog
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          I meant at this time of the year last year. I'm just wondering if it's possible for us outside the top 100k to still get a really high rank.

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    3. J0E
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      Up to 66,632 th With vdv ( c ) and s Taylor to go. Feel pretty pleased too.

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  2. Kings of Lyon ★
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    my h2h rival (locarno) has 61 with a newc def to play i have 45 with vdv (C) ade and shwX to play, could be tight

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    1. jamsiep
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      what's happened to locarno? Good poster.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        I dono, i was asking that duuring the week he's doing well, top 10k but not seen him in these parts for a while

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          i saw him last weekend

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  3. Hate that rotation
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    Nani down VDV up on FISO. Are people that fed up with him?

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
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      nani's time begins now! anyone subbing out AFTER liv/MCY/eve deserves nothing but misery

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      1. heartsattack
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        +1 hope everybody sells so he drops in price. Looking to get him in asap.

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      remember last year when he just faded away?
      this could be that.. though seemingly earlier and with a weaker man u team.. very odd

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    3. DV8R
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      Did Nani -> VDV last week because I was tired of him not producing goals/assists

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    4. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      Nani will come good no way am i selling him

      Have VDV as well

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        Lol for every 0.1 we make on VDV, we lose 0.1 on nani this week.

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        1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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          lol

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          1. Reacher
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            need nani to drop 0.1 then i can get him back in 🙂

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  4. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Lads

    Taking out bandwagons

    Who do you think is the better long term pick

    Hoolahan or Pilk ?

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      Pilk is making some good money at the mo. Also dont think pilk has been dropped yet by lambert.

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
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      hoolahans a bit deep and Modricy
      but hes 10x better player than Pilkington

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        ok cheers

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  5. SchoolboyError
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    Evening all,

    Does anyone think Rooney is going to drop in price this week?

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  6. DV8R
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    Why take Rooney out now? Yes, he's not on form but the next few gameweeks offer good fixtures for Man United....

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      I think people are looking at the individual rather than the team coverage. At the mo, hernan is better than rooney in form.

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    2. Demí
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      Wouldn't advocate getting Rooney out unless it was only for RVP

      Form and Fixtures > Fixtures

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      1. DV8R
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        Well I have both so it's okay for me 🙂

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    3. Cars and Mané
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      If this week's anything to go by, he may have a deeper role with Hernandez and Welbeck both in the team.

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    4. RÏɠBY
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      because he looks unfit and sloppy?

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  7. Dartsfan501
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    Hello gentsCurrent team is

    Hart,Vorm
    Bos,Kompany,Enrique,Brown
    Silva,Moses,VDV,Sinclair,M Petrov
    Rooney,Ade,Agbon

    Really tempted to W/C or just to get RVP for rooney or have i lost the plot ????

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    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Don't WC yet. Save it for the snow

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    2. jfr
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      Rooney, Ade, Agbon, Silva, Sinclair, Kompany, Enrique, Hart, Vorm, VDV...

      the vast majority of them would be in my wildcard team, dont bother!

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      1. Dartsfan501
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        Cheers gents

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  8. RoyaleBlue
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    I have 14.1 mil in the bank need a striker and midfielder suggestions

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
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      hernandez/ferguson?

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  9. CFCTom
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    I've broken into the top 10K! 😀 (again)

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    1. alsybach
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      Arsenal did well today too..............

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    2. Cars and Mané
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      Congrats, give me a few weeks and I'll be joining you.

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        +1

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          Plan on getting in there tomorrow

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          1. Cars and Mané
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            VdV would have to be pretty incredible for me to get in there tomorrow...

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Congrats mate.

      Any idea what the score was in the Chelsea v Arsenal game earlier? :p

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  10. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    dropped rooney like a hot potato

    welcome van persie, welcome

    it has been too long my old friend

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      cue Rooney HT against Sunderland 😛

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        i wouldn't care

        hate the prick

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  11. Cars and Mané
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    Sturridge dropping tonight it seems - that's depressing.

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    1. Feanor
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      Not for me. I dumped him on Thursday night for Aguero.

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
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      as long as AVB keeps the faith so am i, will probably be this seasons charlie adam

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        Im keeping him

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        1. jfr
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          he played fine today

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    3. Hate that rotation
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      i used up all money i saved by buying him, so i cnt change till next WC.

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  12. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Clubs until MOTD anyone?

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    1. Demí
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      Clubs after MOTD?

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        Alrightyyyyyy

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  13. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    GW1 ranking - 1.4m.... GW10 ranking - 28k 🙂 still got capt VDV, Ade & Staylor to play, 2 free transfers for the coming GW & 2.9m... Ahhhh, its not all bad this FPL lark.

    The season starts here!

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Congrats mate. You're sitting pretty.

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  14. teto
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    with Smalling out can we assume Jones will be United's right back for the time being?

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
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      how longs smalling out for?

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    2. McDog
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      With Smalling injured yes. He'll probably play most games anyway because of his versatility.

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
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      I'd say so.

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    4. Dale Cooper
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      Rafael should be fit after the international break.

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  15. Optimus.
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    this could be a stupid question

    but if kompany got sent off in the 70th minute his fault i know before the penalty was scored should he not have got his 6 clean sheet points minus his red card points or would that just be unfair?

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    1. Feanor
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      Yeah, sorry, it is stupid. This rule has been in place forever.

      Red Cards

      If a player receives a red card, they will continue to be penalised for goals conceded by their team.

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      1. Optimus.
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        cool sorry that makes sense alrite was just wondering

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    2. DV8R
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      The rules state that players sent off will continue to be penalised for goals conceded. FPL's rules and I'm afraid we'll have to put with it.

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    3. alsybach
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      he gave away the penalty didnt he?? wats unfair about it??

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    4. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      someone hold me back

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      1. Syd.
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        there seems to be alot of them about

        must be a halloween thing

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    5. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Can I just add that they are DESERVEDLY penalised for goals conceded by their team after they are sent off as they have put their team in a precarious position defensively?

      My question: If Wolves had not have scored would he still have got a CS bonus?

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        He'll get the CS points, but in Monday. Be patient

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    6. RÏɠBY
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      think of the kittens

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      1. Holy See
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        😀

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      2. The buck stops with me
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        MEAOWWWWW!
        The poor kittens!
        They are burning on the bonfire poor wee things!

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  16. Demí
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    Moved up to 38k. My highest rank of the season so far. Chuffed to bits.

    Wishlist for Sunday:

    VDV red card
    Adebayor brace
    Spurs to concede

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    1. Syd.
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      Ade red card is on my wish list...

      Spurs to lose 1-0 would be nice to a Walker O.G 🙂

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Congrats Demi.

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  17. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Good move selling pilk for Brad Johnson

    Get the feeling pilk may be a flash in the johnson looks more consistent

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  18. bdwhite91
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    Vorm (Krul)
    Kompany Enrique Evans Simpson Shawcross
    Silva Nani Sinclair Walters (Tiote)
    Balotelli RVP Suarez

    Should I ship out Kompany for Walker? I currently have 1.1 in the bank

    Or I was thinking I could bump Nani for Lampard but idk if it'd be worth it

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    1. Bazman returns
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      don't ship nani for lamps look at their fixtures.

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    2. Feanor
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      You might need VDV after tomorrow.

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    3. DV8R
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      Keep Kompany, he's only out for 1 game and he has a nice home game after that

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      1. bdwhite91
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        It says he's out for 3 weeks

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        1. Dale Cooper
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          3 weeks, because there's an international break coming. Just a one GW though.

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    4. jfr
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      keep Kompany, your back 5 can hold its own for one week perfectly well

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    5. heartsattack
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      Stick with what you have. Enrique, Evans and Simpson all at home next week.

      Keep Nani.

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  19. Syd.
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    I am ranked 666 in the FFS League

    Spooky...

    Loads of red arrows also..

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    1. Bazman returns
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      hmmm 2 days to halloween.... if you stay there on Monday then I am going to give you a wide berth.

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    2. Granville
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      Rather fitting don't you think 🙂

      I was ranked exactly 1000 after one gameweek last year

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    3. Dale Cooper
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      LOL, how can you bench Van Persie? Madness, pure madness.

      You can decide not to captain him, but to play Moses instead of him? 🙂

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  20. FPL Daniel
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    Red arrow 🙁 🙁 🙁 with captain to play

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  21. Holy See
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    Inter Milan may have become fairly rubbish, but jayz, their games are darn enjoyable now.

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
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      +1 great game

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  22. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    may i retract my earlier post

    i am in fact back in the top 100k, not hovering outside it 😀

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Congrats Disparate Dan.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        thanks bill!

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  23. sachmo
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    Chucking Suarez for Adebayor - price rises happening tonight and I don't have the spare cash.

    Better long term plan no? After Swansea, not sure if I back Suarez to earn much...

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      apart from the man city game i dont see why he cant score against any of that opposition. did you see chelsea today?
      im holdin him for richer or poorer

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  24. Jonah Takalua
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    WHERE IS THE RVP ASSIST??

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      On the way, surfing on a wave of e-mail complaints to FPL.

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    2. AP
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      It'll get added after the auto subs.

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    3. Dale Cooper
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      Someone should start a site http://www.alwayscaptainrvp.com, as opposed to nevercaptainnickybutt. My whole fantasy football campaign this calendar year has been so RVP-reliant.

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  25. Bouncebackability
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    I am feeling greedy. Suarez should have had two huge hauls in the last two weeks. Hopefully the big one is on the horizon.

    Anyway, I watched the game tonight and in the pub there was a group of West Brom fans hurling abuse all game about the Paraguayan toothy tw*t. One in particular was giving it all guns to the ref, the lino, Liverpool fans and the rest of the world. At the end of the game a guy sat a couple of tables away - who was wearing an Arsenal shirt so had probably been there all day - finished his pint and walked past this tool and simply said, "He's Uruguayan you gobby dumbass, now sit down and shut up" and walked out. Had to laugh, couldn't help it.

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    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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      My thoughts exactly on suarez. He is going to hit a ridiculous score one of these days, i can feel it! Originally i had planned to ditch him after swansea, but may reconsider. He is not at risk of rotation compared to the man city trio, doesnt have europe as a distraction and isnt prohibitively expemsive. If only he took set pieces and was a little more clinical he would be a points monster.

      But yeah, in the not too distant future (hopefully) he will bag muchos goals

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  26. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    Time to bite the bullet before its to late have to get Silva in for Nasri

    Worth a 4 point hit

    IN

    Silva
    Brad Johnson

    OUT

    Nasri
    Pilk

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      I think any 4pt hit that facilitates Silva in is hard to argue with.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        i think im too late for the silva party, plus hes no differential (even if he is consistent points) bit gutted really as i see him sailing out of my grasp

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    2. RoyaleBlue
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      Yes

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    3. sachmo
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      You're mad not to have done it earlier.

      But yeah, looks like a fair swap...

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        Heart over head till now as i really rate nasri but the time has come

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  27. RoyaleBlue
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    I have 2 free transfers and i am willing to take a -4
    my strickers are terrible i need to get a whole new strike force suggestions

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    1. Bazman returns
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      Well one comes straight to mind I think you know who RVP.

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  28. Scroobius Mac
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    Evening all, a poor Saturday in the office just thank god for The Ever Reliant Robin. Few questions;

    1) Kompany is banned for one game yes? Bench him or sell him for Jones? 3 dodgy fixtures in the next 6.

    2) Sturridge was first to be replaced - is his place safe or should I consider replacing him?

    3) Gerrard picked up an injury - twitter said he could be out to xmas but applebonkers said that he only picked up a knock in training - did King Kenneth not say anything post game?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      lol at your grav

      surprised i ain't seen one like that yet

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        Can't say I made it but cheers 😀

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  29. JimmyDeemo - Sir Puntalot
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    My GW is poised quite nicely. 29 points from today with everyone around me either not having ot not captaining VDV. If he has a good game then i'll be climbing. Wish i was brave enough to captain RVP though.

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  30. Reacher
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    When will rvp rise ? shud i get him in now? opinions plz??

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      Tonight but he's made of glass so if you can wait til Thursday then do so.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      tonight

      and yes

      i just have

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    3. Hate that rotation
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      today he rising

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