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20 November 2011 1173 comments
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After yesterday’s Premier League bonanza of eight games, today we have to settle for just a single fixture. It’s a potential cracker though, as Chelsea take on Liverpool at Stamford Bridge. The Dugout Discussion opens it’s doors for the short shift, and the team news is in…

Chelsea XI: Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Cole, Ramires, Mikel, Lampard, Mata, Drogba, Malouda.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Enrique, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Adam, Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy, Suarez.

The headline news concerns the names that don’t appear on those team sheets. Three players that cost their respective clubs a total of over £100m in 2011 all feature on the bench. Chelsea opt for Didier Drogba over former Liverpool star Fernando Torres, and Liverpool leave out Andy Carroll and Stewart Downing in favour of Craig Bellamy and Maxi Rodriquez.

Elsewhere, David Luiz and Florent Malouda get the nod ahead of Alex and Daniel Sturridge respectively.

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  1. Anorak
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    A feisty affair at the Bridge has served up a further 5 yellow cards, but none to players in sight of the Suspension Tightrope.
    Ivanovic and Luiz move to 2 cards away from a suspension, while Ramires and Kuyt are now 3 away and Lucas picks up his 6th of the season to sit 4 away from another ban.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Shame Fatty couldn't get one. Want to bring him in week 16, getting the suspension out the way would make it an easier decision, not to mention the transfers out if he was suspended.

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      1. Anorak
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I posted this morning that Lampard is a tricky one.
        Only 1 yellow all season last year, so he's certainly not got history. Could be 1 game or 8 until he finds that ban.

        A yellow next week though will be served in the Cup QF (against who? - Liverpool).

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          nice work anorak with the tightrope stuff but to be honest i was oblivious to it all beforehand so it mostly gave me more grey hair and a tormented sunday , thanks all the same. ;P

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          1. Anorak
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            A touch of grey adds gravitas.
            Better than baldness anyway...
            😉 :mrgreen:

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  2. Demí
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Baps for today's game

    Johnson 3 Maxi 2 Sturridge 1

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    1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice. I take any version without Suarez and Enrique.
      I think these FPL favorites have no chance anyway.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      2 shots off target and on the losing team, wouldn't surprise me to see adam pip sturridge.

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  3. Fabreghastly
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    No Suarez goal 🙁 but, Sturridge's should have given me an eighth consecutive 50pt + score and green arrow 🙂

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    1. Screaming Midget
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      It's 60+ you want to try and get past.

      That's always my minimum weekly target.

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  4. Corrigan
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    I would say Sturridge was at fault for that goal. Greedy bugger.

    Glen Johnson MOM? Pfft...

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      agreed. no brain but he got me 5 points.

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  5. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I really hate the Sunday 4pm games. They always seem to go badly for me. I wasn't expecting much from today's game but two 2 pointers is very frustrating with Sturridge who I just took out scoring. The last two 4pm games were bad (rival had Bale who outscored VDV and Ade). Before that it was the Chelsea QPR debacle and they always seemed to go badly last season too.

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  6. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    get in red men!!! need to get rid of mata now , maybe for dvd

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    1. BONZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      try a vhs 😉

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      1. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        blu ray is the future. 🙂 but its costly.

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    2. Declan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I might ditch him for Cashley Young.

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  7. The EJJ
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    did Sturridge to Bendtner 🙁 Now feel like a goon 🙂 oh well YNWA!

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  8. Boss Hogg
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Graham or Morison?

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    1. Fabreghastly
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      helguson

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      1. Boss Hogg
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        ...for 4.9m or less!

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        1. Fabreghastly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          14 years, 5 months ago

          Morison

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    2. teto
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Graham

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  9. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Excellent. Now I have to decide what the crap to do with Rooney and Nani.

    Get Baines in?
    Cheapy Midfield and get Walters and Larsson?
    Get Helguson for rooney and grab lampard? That would mean keeping Moses.....meh.

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Walters is starting to show the consistency of a must have to me. Also considering Baines or Jags at the expense of Kompany

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  10. Dr Bronner
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else got someone good on the bench and therefore hoping vdv doesnt play?

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  11. Park the bus
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    dont have an affection for any english team but is there a better sight in the EPL than that massive smile on kenny dalglish's face when liverpool score a goal?

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    1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, because I hate that smile so much. Smug git.

      Hodgson was screwed.

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      1. Cardiff Kopite
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Nope Hodgson was shit. A nice guy (and a Gent) but you cant argue we were clueless under him. He is a good manager, but he wasnt for us.

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        1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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          14 years, 5 months ago

          He didn't get any money to spend. he did the best he could with a crappy team led by the sloth himself, Torres. You give him the money Dog leash has they become much better. Dawglish has actually had really crappy results considering the money the spent.

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          1. Hate that rotation
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            he spent £100m.

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            1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              For Henderson, Downing, and Carrol.........wow. yes, I now Suarez and Adam have done well, but all things considered its a pretty big waste for a team that can't beat Norwich and Swans at home and probably will nto make champions league.

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          2. Cardiff Kopite
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Look, i get the anti-LFC theme. But seriously. Take a look on youtube at the Torres when Gerrard was playing behind him. Ask Vidic what he thinks of him. Roy was unlucky that Stevie was playing through a groin strain that season and Torres had his head turned by Chelsea and CL. Not his fault. Its a results game and we were sliding down the table. Kenny put that right in record time.

            End of discussion.

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            1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Not true. It's all about the money. Roy wanted to spend more, but couldn't. Everyone is the WORLD even Macca was saying that it had to do with lack of quality, not managing. Dog Leash didn't actually get that good of results. He got beat by teams like Blackburn and a Hodsgon managed WBA last year.

              So the discussion is wide open. Pool fans just like to cover their eyes to Dawglish's ACTUAL record and pretend he's way better.

              It's just like with Hodgson: Pool can play the good teams sometimes, but they suck at home and can't beat the fodder teams.

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              1. Cardiff Kopite
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Nope. Roy messed up. No one else did it for him. I think you are deluded by the fact hes such a nice guy. Chelsea and City would have sacked him much earlier than we did. I wish Roy the best of luck. It just didnt work out.

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                1. Cardiff Kopite
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  Kenny took us from lower mid table to 6th (and close to 5th). We scored a shed load of goals after he took over.

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                  1. Cardiff Kopite
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    "Pool can play the good teams sometimes, but they suck at home and can’t beat the fodder teams"

                    LOL We have had that problem since 1995.

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                  2. Cardiff Kopite
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    And Macca knows shit all about football. Thats why hes a pundit for sky.

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    2. Cardiff Kopite
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      There is no malice in the man.

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  12. AP
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hiddink to be in charge by the next league match. Buggu it.

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    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      His massive Dutch dead is casting a fair old shadow behind AVV right now.

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He's practically the same age as Ferguson...

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    3. Shakey
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Would be funny. Most overrated manager knocking about right now.

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  13. Fabreghastly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I'll be doing Suarez for Rooney next week I reckon. Roon's about to come good and Suarez about to be out for six weeks

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    1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You think rooney will come good, eh? I wish I had that confidence.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Newman, you can thank me! 😀

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        1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Elnino!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          I looooooooooooooooooooooove you!

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          1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Actually, while I have your genius here.....what do you think of...

            Baines?
            Walters?(fixtures bad after next...should I get him anyway?
            Larsson(as you know, I have no sundy coverage)
            Rooney? (hold firm or no?)

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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              14 years, 5 months ago

              Baines eh, that 2 point machine 😉

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              1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Superdunny! I was looking for you yesterday to apologize and admit fault! Well called!

                I'm actually considering him! Not having him for the past year while everyone burns me has finally caught up with me.

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                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  lol no worries 😀

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    2. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      newcastle next. that wont be a goal fest.

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      1. Fabreghastly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Made my transfer this week already, I'm talking next week.
        A lot can change before then though

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  14. Waldaz
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I have to admit, this made me laugh:

    http://twitter.com/#!/LiterallyJamie/status/138313908753678336

    😆

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    1. don parcheesi
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      ha! That's awesome

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    2. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      😆 😆

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    3. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol amazing!

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      1. Corrigan
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That has made my day!

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        1. Breadbin
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          It made my hay.

          I'll get my coat.

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    4. Cardiff Kopite
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Im not going to defend Carol. You cant polish a poo.

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    5. Breadbin
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1 😀

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  15. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Can't believe Lampard actually played the whole 90. Didn't see him once.

    Also, where's Cech's red ballgag?

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    1. don parcheesi
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol

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    2. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Shit ain't he

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    3. GREENDREAMS11
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol

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  16. Chris_White
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Maybe a bit too frustrated atm, but I'm seriously tempted by doing Mata > Silva for a hit ahead of next week, but guess I'll find my senses and actually see that we are playing Wolves without 3-4 of their key players...

    Gah

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  17. Declan
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Midfield this GW:

    Moses 2 Drenthe 2 Silva 1 Mata 2

    Nice! Adebayor(c) 2 will really top the GW off.

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    1. Slaps
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Moses Drente Ramsey Silva Lampard, 9 points, great stuff...

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  18. adziom
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Vermaelen for Kompany for the upcoming run of games? (pending midweek injuries in Europe)

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    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Possibly selling Kompany myself, but I only have a max of 6.2 to spend.
      Hard to find anyone who really excites me enough...

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Jones?

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      2. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Jags

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    2. teto
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldnt touch Arsenals defence as long as Mertesacker is playing

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  19. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suarez out for who??

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    1. colin1201
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      hernandez?

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    2. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      rooney, klasnic, helguson, dzeko, aguero, ba, sturridge

      All better than Suarez

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      how much can you spend?

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  20. 7thHeaven
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    reds were playin well today. nice move and pass football in the first half from bellamy kuyt maxi and suarez.
    no long and lazy balls. Adam was amazing.

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  21. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Rooney---> Aguero or Hernandez (I have Silva and no other United players)?

    Also best 4M defender to play next week and to keep until jan WC? Wilko, Gabbidon or another?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'm actually considering Rooney IN.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        http://www.dramabutton.com/

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        1. Screaming Midget
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          ?

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Press the drama button for the funny sound to accompany your statement that you're considering Rooney in.

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      2. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I would do this move next week at earliest. Fixtures say hernandez. Form says Aguero IMO. Both could get rotated equally? But City are fixture proof.

        I have to swap De Laet this week as I dont want to play 2 from Simpson, Kompany, Enrique.

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  22. Screaming Midget
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suarez > Rooney... or save transfer?

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      why the sudden interest in roon? i've taken price drops for him and he has been crap. considering gettin a city striker.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1. See above.

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    2. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He has the fixtures and is back up top now.

      I may still wait until GW15 though and save the transfer.

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  23. Samwise the Brave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Need some advice;

    Currently have a defense line of: Jones,Enrique,ShawX(S.Taylor,R.Taylor)

    Considering getting rid of one of the taylors for Brown(any others around 4.5-5.0 welcome)
    which one should go or should I save my free

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    1. Son is Rising
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Then you will have my defense! I'd keep R Taylor but depends how late you got him/how much you paid for him. For me he's only 4.5 mil so happy benching him if Newcastle have a toughy.

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      1. Samwise the Brave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Got him at 4.1 or get rid of S.Taylor then(got him cheap as well)

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    2. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      ShawX. I did the same move this week with Wilknas my remaining Stoke coverage. Of course, he would score.

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  24. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    people sellin Suarez?

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    1. Bigo1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, sick and tired of this guy. Good player, but so frustrating. Have had him since GW2, and he does not justify his price at all.

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    2. Will
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Indeed ... probably for Hernandez

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  25. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Took a 4 point hit to bring in Jones for Bos, 2 points profit. Casual.

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Which defender would you have played had you kept Bos and they came off your bench?

      Take that away and that's the nett ... but I expect Jones to make up even more points for the next few weeks, not just this GW

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Ha I only had Ward or Simpson. So still a one point gain 😛

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          and you replaced a non starter with someone who wil get decent points over time. p.s. like the drama button

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Ye, if I'm honest I was very tired when I brought him in so a bit of luck was involved. Ha ye the drama button is a good laugh!

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    2. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Jones might yet get 2baps so that could become a 4 point profit

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Wouldn't mind that!

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  26. teto
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Thinking of doing Suarez > Aguero. I know City have "tough" games coming up but surely they can score against weak and error prone defenses of Chelsea and Arsenal.
    Good move?

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think it's solid. Problem is rotation. I'm sticking with Balo for the moment but might sell Ade to be able to afford Aguero.

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  27. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Another week, another crap decision. Decided to play Moses over Sturridge, thinking there would be goals in the b'burn game (which there were) and that DS might be on the bench (which he was)
    Urghh

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  28. Cruicky
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Mourinho: 185 games in charge of Chelsea.

    Next 6 including AVB: 223 games in charge of Chelsea.

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      What?

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  29. Pat Mustard
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Will 4 points get me back to a green arrow?!

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  30. Snooze ya lose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So Rodwell was a great transfer! And looks likely to be out for several weeks, sweet.

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    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Oh, it's several weeks? F'ing hell. I blew my free double transfer on him and Wilkinson.

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      1. Snooze ya lose
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        According to Moyes, twisted rib muscle could keep him out for several weeks. Im now thinking of going with my original plan of Eagles.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2063594/Everton-2-Wolves-1-Leighton-Baines-late-penalty-seals-Toffees-win.html

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