[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

  1. Mílanista
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    Disappointed I didn't sign up to the cup. Would have qualified and chances are my score this week of 57 + baps would have got me through this round.

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  2. Declan
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    67 pre BAPS, Ade 3, Mata 3, Hernadez(C) 3/2, Kompany 2/1

    Topped by my work league for Movember. €50 in the bag. 🙂

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    1. Mílanista
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      Nice

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    2. chinmusic
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      Movember spawned a monster

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    3. Screaming Midget
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      Kompany = 3

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    4. applebonkers
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      that's like a 100+ in a normal week

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  3. Damo.
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    My cup exploits http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJqKOb0ZhY

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  4. Retro
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    Surely no one would get rid of Aguero with Norwich next week!?

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    1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
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      I did - for Ade.

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    2. Mílanista
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      Wait for Carling Cup game. If he plays (more likely now with Balo suspended) there is a big chance of him being rested at the weekend. Bayern is a massive game for them now.

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    3. applebonkers
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      if he plays carling cup i might sell, if not he's staying and possibly getting captained.
      hopefully man city go with dzeko, johnson and nasri in midweek

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  5. Laserface
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    Come On FEDEX !!

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  6. Baines on Toast...
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    I have and am probably going to sell Bendtner. But a man facing Wolves and Blackburn in his next two games is hardly a crisis if you don't sell him.

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  7. Drip Doctor
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    Anyone else think a keeper getting sent off for bringing down a player is harsh? Surely a penalty is enough...

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    1. Mull
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      It should be just a booking in my opinion especially if they are going away from goal.

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    2. Mílanista
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      If it's in the box I think a yellow is enough. If it's outside and therefore just a free kick it should be red. Same goes for when the last defender brings down a player.

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      1. Drip Doctor
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        Just watching highlights of the Madrid derby. Athletico keeper sent off, game killed.

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        1. applebonkers
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          another red card for chelsea

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          1. Drip Doctor
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            😆 He'll fit in well at The Bridge.

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    3. tangtastic
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      Personally, I think if there is intent (i.e. deliberate) then no, it isn't. I think referees should take it into account if they believe that it was a challenge made with honest intentions.

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  8. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    gw14 team:

    vorm
    kompany, enrique, jones
    silva, sinclair, bale, walters
    rvp, adebayor, suarez

    who to drop suarez for this week?

    ba, sturridge, or another?

    have 11.5 to spend but am thinking of going cheaper and saving some cash up for elsewhere

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    1. Mull
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      Hernandez as United have great fixtures.

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      1. Mull
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        If you are going cheap though Demba Ba looks good.

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    2. FPL Touches
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      Bendtner.

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      1. VarunK
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        were the exact words muttered by Jack Nicholson right before the credits rolled for "One flew over the cuckoo's nest"

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    3. Waldaz
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      Ba

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    4. McTown
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      Have almost identical team and same problem, cept have only 9.4 (damn VDV). Im tempted by sturridge, nicest fixture.

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    5. Kuyt Dirkula +42
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      Hernandez for Man U cover with Jones..

      Man U next 10...

      avl WOL qpr ful WIG BLA new BOL ars STO

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        is chico gonna start all/most of them you think?

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  9. FPL Touches
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    Just jumped in and did
    Agbon -> Ba

    Good or Bad???
    (Saved a bit of cash as well =] )

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    1. Laserface
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      Good

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  10. applebonkers
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    preds updated:

    Hernandez 3, Ba 2, S.Taylor 1
    Adebayor 3, Defoe 2, Bale 2
    Martin 3, Holt 2, Young 1
    Whelan 3, Delap 2, Crouch 1
    Gomez 3, Larsson 2, Di Santo 1
    Fellaini 3, Cahill 2, Jagielka 1
    Mata 3, Sturridge 2, Terry 1
    Walcott 3, Vermaelen 3, Arteta 1 (all depends on the weighting of an OG)
    Kompany 3, Adam 2, Silva 1
    Collins 3, Agbonlahor 2, N’Zogbia/Gower 1

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    1. tangtastic
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      where did you get these from AB?

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      1. applebonkers
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        guesses based on OPTA stats

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        1. tangtastic
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          cheers man.. good work ^^

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    2. Alan The Llama
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      cheers AB

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    3. Declan
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      Kompany 3 + Ade 3 + Mata 3 + Hernandez 6 + Silva 1 = Finally a decent GW 🙂

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    4. Locarno
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      If it's Collins 3, Agbon 2, N'Zogbia 1, it seems bizarre that all six BPs go to one side in a 0-0.

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    5. Scroobius Mac
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      Walcott 3 you say? My cup game just got a whole lot tighter.

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    6. Syd.
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      I would settle for them 😉

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  11. Le Bluff
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    Drenthe and Bendther: 2 pretty big, but poor bandwagons on here so far!

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    1. Doc Graham
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      ive jumped off the drenthe bandwagon, but im still keeping bendtner till after blackburn

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    2. tangtastic
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      keep the faith

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      1. tangtastic
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        (or give it at least two more gw's anyway)

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  12. Lloyd Xmas
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    Had enough Aguero is a useless KUN

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    1. Feanor
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      Who scored 11 last week and now Balottelli will be suspended. Think I might captain him against Norwich.

      I'll be on 44 after the subs are made. Not too bad considering my captain only scored 4 points.

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      1. jimnastics
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        Balotelli suspended for CC surely? Kun will be rested against Norwich for the CL game.

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      2. McDog
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        Balotelli will serve his suspension in the carling cup.

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      3. Cyril Figgis
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        Balotelli will be suspended for the Carling cup game midweek, making it more likely Aguero will play in that and be rested against Norwich.

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      4. Lloyd Xmas
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        You have sussed my plan,thanks for highlighting that!!!!

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    2. McDog
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      Keep him for Norwich at least!

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      2nd highest points scorer this season, what does that make everyone else?

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      1. Lloyd Xmas
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        Useless KUNS

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    4. applebonkers
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      a penalty and 2 dodgy assists in his last 4 games is not the best but home to norwich i find him impossible to sell. will likely give him that game then switch to ba, don;t see the hurry getting ba in for chelsea

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        cos chelsea's defence is so awesome?

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        1. applebonkers
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          better than norwich's

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      2. McDog
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        Think I might sell him for Hernandez next week. He still seems to be carrying the injury he picked up during hte international break, he's not the same player he was earlier in the season.

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        1. applebonkers
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          i think he is the same player, simply ealry season he had two home games against swansea and wigan, arguably the 2 easiest fixtures of the season given how expansive and brave both of those sides are. norwich did very well stifling man utd and liverpool away from home but on paper i'd be astonished if man city don't stick at least 2 past them

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  13. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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    Should I keep Bendtner for more weeks? Please help to assess these plans.

    Evans + Bendtner OUT

    A: Jagielka + Ba
    B: McAuley + Dzeko
    C: Baines + Rochina/Holt

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    1. Dynamic
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      A

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    2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      Thank you. The question seem to be tonight or later then.. 🙂

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  14. Crouch Potato!
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    Request for more gravatars folks, brighten up de pages!

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    1. Mull
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      That couch is nice and colourful.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        Lookin good yourself MULLFC, how did you get on this weekend?

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        1. Mull
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          31 points and my only hope of more is Silva, Rooney and Vorm which is unlikely, oh well.

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      😉

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  15. VarunK
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    I deserve such a bad week just for bringing in Graham for a point hit.

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  16. McTown
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    What to do with VDV? seems too much money to have wasted on the bench each week, and with his injury he is not playing when he does with any conviction...

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    1. AIRMILES
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      Hang on to him, if he plays next weeks against Bolton then he could be devastating. I have the Spurs trio for next week. Just need two of them to do the job.

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      1. McTown
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        Missing bale here so feels worse when he doesnt play.

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  17. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    The more I listen to Robbie Savage the more I don't understand why he killed himself. He seemed to have everything and be a really nice bloke... What a shame, his poor family.

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    1. tangtastic
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      Who knows what was going on in his life? And how that was affecting him in his mind. All we can agree is that its terribly tragic and I hope his family find a way through their grief.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      When did this happen?

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    3. VarunK
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      Depression doesn't work that way...

      http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ecoqm1

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    4. jimnastics
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      I'm worried something pretty nasty is going to come out eventually... you've got to assume that something happened last night / early this morn to cause this. Though they do say that a lot of manic depresive learn to hide everything, until it's too late.

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      1. Lewis - Sky Pod
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        "you've got to assume that something happened last night"

        you absolutely do no have to assume that. depression is not black and white, and is not incidental.

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    5. Alan The Llama
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      It appears no one has even a slightly bad word to say about the man. Makes it even more of a tragedy,

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      1. AIRMILES
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        I know, I was wondering how many English football people his age or younger would get the same reception. Couldn't think of any.

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    6. Screaming Midget
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      Unfortunately it wasn't Savage.

      It was Gary Speed.

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      1. The Light Knight
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        poor timing

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        1. VarunK
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          I'd say his timing was pretty quick...

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          1. tangtastic
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            .. too quick.

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      2. andy85wsm
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        ....

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      3. Kuyt Dirkula +42
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        Bad form.

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    7. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i know what you mean, i have suffered for years and i like to think if i had all the things he seemed to have i would be a happier person... it makes no sense, even to me

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  18. @ImpressiveTackl
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    I'll be very unhappy if Aguero doesn't start against Norwich next weekend.

    I'm not sure I can be bothered gambling with 11.3m in one of my forward slots. Especially when Adebayor is such a simpler option.

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    1. VarunK
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      You could always go for the overpriced lucky f**k Chicharito.

      From a proud owner 🙂

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      1. Mull
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        I'd say he isn't lucky but is always in the box when necessary.

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      2. Lloyd Xmas
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        offside

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      I imagine he'll rest a few key players with Europe mid week following.

      Expecting Silva to have another rest too.

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  19. Kuyt Dirkula +42
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    It's amazing to think that someone with a lifestyle like his and a loving family could be in such a dark place that death was the preferrable option.

    Sadly, sense and logic sometimes have no place in the human mind.

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  20. Roger Hernandez
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    is hernandez's price rising tonight???

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  21. Forest4Life
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    Anyone else here apart from me affected by suicide in the past? Youd be surprised how common it is

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    1. VarunK
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      Thankfully, no. But I come from a culture(South Indian) where it's not that common among families.

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  22. Laserface
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    Scout Picks

    2
    1 0 2
    2 5 0 5
    6 2 2

    Subs 2 5 2

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  23. Syd.
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    Lescott is at fault for 80% of the goals City concede....

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    1. VarunK
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      But 60% of the time, Hart's keeping works every time.

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  24. The Light Knight
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    so with balotelli banned for 3 matches are the remaining people goin to get rid?

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    1. Syd.
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      Misses the carling cup game midweek

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    2. Chris_White
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      make that 1 match

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    3. AIRMILES
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      He's banned for one match, and it's the carling cup.

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    4. Demí
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      He's only banned for 1

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      1. The Light Knight
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        😀

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      2. Forest4Life
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        And thats C. Cup

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      3. Crouch Potato!
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        Does he serve it in CCup?

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        1. Demí
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          yh

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          He does, I'll still give you 5/1 against him playing in the next league game though.

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    5. Cyril Figgis
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      1 surely?

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      1. The Light Knight
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        yes just trying to get a new bosingwa gate going

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  25. Green-Pea
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    willl rooney get bonus?

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    1. Lloyd Xmas
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      no

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  26. aaront
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    Should I be jumping on the bale bandwagon
    Get him in now for vdv or risk him dropping
    In price again will not be able to afford him
    If I want to bring him back pls help

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    1. super zlatan
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      Why get rid of vdv? Surely he will play nxt game?

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      1. aaront
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        bale seems to be nailed on at the mo vdv
        Lucky to be getting 60 to70 mins with Defoe
        Playing well maybe he will not be risked till
        He is fully fit

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    2. FF Dirtbag
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      Silly to get rid of VDV...

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    3. Nomar
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      Is this a poem?

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    4. Mull
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      VDV will take centre stage next week.

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  27. super zlatan
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    What to do with Suarez? Keep or get rid!!! So frustrating. If I downgraded him to ba it means I could upgrade drenthe to bale! Thoughts?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i am 99% doing that move to ba tonight before his price rise

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    2. Messi & fabregas
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      keep for sure

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    3. Hansel
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      did that move myself before this gw but m petrov to bale. Do it!

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  28. hvsauce
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    fielding a team of
    vorm, krul
    jones, enrique, raylor, naylor, simpson
    vdv, silva, ramsey, eagles, bannan
    ade, rooney, dzeko

    have 2 fts & 0.1m in the bank going into GW14. any thoughts on how i can squeeze mata in there without losing rooney, vdv, silva, and ade?

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    1. hvsauce
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      any other suggestions welcome also!

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    2. Cruicky
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      Don't get in Mata?

      Otherwise get rid of Dzeko to Helguson? and Ramsey to Mata or something like that.

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      1. hvsauce
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        haha fair point. might be knee-jerking a bit to want mata...

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  29. Dynamic
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    My Team:
    Vorm-Krul
    Shawcross-Brown-Jose Enrique-Kompany-P.Jones
    Silva – Bale – Walters – B.Johnson – Dyer
    RVP – Adebayor – Aguero

    Which of these transfers do you think are the best to do?

    A) Shawcross -> Jagielka (0.5m left)
    B) Shawcross -> Jagielka this week, Aguero -> Ba next week. So i get Aguero for Norwich at home.
    C) Shawcross -> Baines, P.Jones -> Simpson (4pt hit)
    D) Shawcross -> Baines, Aguero -> Ba (4pt hit) (2.6m left)

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  30. Syd.
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    Does Charlie Adam & Luis Suarez practice diving together???

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