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Monday Dugout Discussion

5 December 2011 2178 comments
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Craven Cottage is the venue, as Fulham versus Liverpool wraps up Gameweek 14 on a bitterly cold Monday night. Braving the unpleasant conditions outside, the Dugout Discussion is open once more. Martin Jol and Kenny Dalglish have handed their team sheets in, and this is how the sides line-up tonight…

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Kelly, Senderos, Hangeland, JA Riise, Murphy, Etuhu, Dempsey, Ruiz, Zamora, Dembele.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Henderson, Adam, Spearing, Bellamy, Carroll, Suarez.

The hosts make one change to the side that drew at the Emirates, as Steven Kelly comes in for Chris Baird at right-back.

As for the visitors, the devastating injury to their star defensive-midfielder Lucas, means that Jay Spearing comes in as his replacement. Elsewhere, Andy Carroll partners Luis Suarez up-front, and surprisingly there’s no reward in the form of a starting berth for Maxi Rodriguez, who’s enjoying somewhat of a purple patch at the moment.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom can be found by clicking here, so come in and follow all the action as it unfolds.

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  1. Beans on Toast
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Free transer Eagles to Mata, Nani or VDV?

    Vorm Krul
    Jones Kompany Enrique Simpson Turner
    Silva Bale Eagles Moses Walters
    RVP Yakubu Adebayor

    4.3 in bank

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    1. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He who has faith in VDV shall be rewarded ten-fold.

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    2. magic.inside
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Mata for form, Nani for fixtures. VDV's health + Defoe's form is a bit unsettling.

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  2. meltedman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    But no, probably Nani..

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  3. Twelve years a slave
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just watched liverpool game. Am gutted that Enrique only gets two points , he was fantastic today , best player on the park , yet under the new system will get nothing for it , same with Suarez

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Had to leave the game with 10mins to go after Dempsey hit the bar and really thought pool would hold on. Was figuring Enrique would be in line for a bp or two if they did. disappointing.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Didnt agree with Dalglishes subs today . When down to 10 men are Kuyt and downing really the best two to bring on? Needed to add some steel in the middle

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I thought Carragher or Shelvey would come on. Kuyt really surprised me

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          1. magic.inside
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Today was just another example of Kenny proving that he isn't a tactician. LFC need to figure this out quick because a mediocre December can't be afforded. How they can play with Chelsea and City but leave points on the table/get nothing against Norwich, Swans, and Fulham is downright unacceptable.

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            1. UnderstandablyDistraught
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              It's true. He is really not a great tactician. The pool owners wont be afraid to spend money though so it will be interesting to see who they go for in Jan.

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              1. Carlos Danger
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                What are you guys talking about? carragher? shelvey? Kennys only mistake was starting carroll, please master tacticians shed some light on what the proper course would've been. Bringing on carragher? yes thats exactly what pool needed, a defensive liability once they go down 1-0???

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                1. UnderstandablyDistraught
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  am talking before they went down 1-0. Kuyt is essentially an attacking player and not the sub to bring on when down to ten. Someone with defensive experience was the one to bring on. He was limited in his choice and Carragher is not the ideal person to bring in there but better than Kuyt imo.

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                  1. Carlos Danger
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Uh ok, so what the f*ck is the strategic gain of a defensive sub, they had no reason to shore up against a clearly inferior team... carragher would only slot for a cb and both were playing just fine

                    if you mean they should've shored up after going down to 10 before going down 1-0, fair enough, but not carragher, he's too slow and too susceptible to mistakes, I concede that a more defensive cm would've been better after the card but after going down to 10 there is no effing reason not to go for it and kuyt gives u defense as well=literally perfect sub for the situation

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                  2. UnderstandablyDistraught
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    Not sure why you are getting so bent out of shape about. They were the slightly better team before going down to 10.

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              2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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                14 years, 5 months ago

                lol yeah 4 league titles...you lot are much better informed

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                1. Carlos Danger
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                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  +100000, Seriously

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                2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  it's just an opinion.

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                  1. Carlos Danger
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    fulham were playing well, but never, ever looked like winning until they went down to 10. Fact is dalglish made the right choices, and I am asking you to defend your point and you give me nothing, theres a reason carragher doesn't start, experience is nice but in the end its about ability

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                  2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    you haven't made much of a point yourself imo. Two differing opinions - that's all and pool lost the game.

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            2. Henry Hill
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Kenny's tactical nous was found out against Spurs when he had Skretl right back marking Gareth Bale, madness.

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        2. Carlos Danger
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          kuyt is exactly the type of player you'd want to bring on in that situation, works his balls off and doesn't give the ball away cheaply, and goals in him to boot. Who would've been better to add 'steel' than him? downing also brought a spark and nearly got the winner... good subs

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          1. Twelve years a slave
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Messy ,you dont know what your talking about.

            When the subs were made it was still 0 0 , but liverpool were already down to 10 men.
            With about fifteen minutes to go , Kenny should of been thinking about preservation , not trying to win with 10 men, Besides , fulham were quite dangerous at times and should of taken the lead in the first half. Sure Liverpool had plenty of possesion , but fulhams more direct style often looked dangerous.

            Pool should of just taken off caroll and replaced him with someone capable of playing just in front of back four

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    2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      🙁 The result is disappointed, as a pool fan. Who would play DMC for us in the next match?

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    3. Jax
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      knew pool wouldn't win

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      1. Kick Some Goals
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Insightful comment is insightful.

        Would read again.

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      2. Lucky_2010
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        i thought initially will be draw but unexpected pool to lose ....

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Enrique was good, showed both no-fuss security at the back and great pacy runs along the channel to start moves. Don't recall him misplacing a pass once and his clearances and decision making was so faultless you didn't even clock it. Naturally the goal didn't come down his flank - it was the other one!

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    5. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      two good cut-backs to carroll aside suarez was poor and wasteful

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Poor, no. Wasteful, yes.

        He just looks so damn dangerous all the time yet there seems to be little end product. Was hoping to be impressed enough to bring him in for QPR game. More thought required on that transfer

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          i think he's direct and exciting which sometimes makes you think he's more dangerous than he really is. passing to fulham players, diving and getting dispossessed by hangeland is not bonus worthy under any system for me.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Oh i agree absolutely. Was not exactly one of his best performance and he deserved 0 BPs tonight. Still think he's a great player though!

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        2. magic.inside
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Pretty much the story of his season. Wasteful with his chances and wasteful setting up chances. Shame.

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  4. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    looking at past keeper performances in 1-0 wins i think schwarzer could even get a surprise 2bps

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  5. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    To hell with it, i'm taking the punt on long this weekend, at home, against a currently shocking wigan defence, why not?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      because there are much better options out there

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        but i can only think of Ba and yakubu, cant see tak going on another brace so soon, and Ba may be in no mans land with newcastle slightly breaking up with a few injuries, plus norwich and swansea wont be push overs for ba.

        who would you suggest otherwise?

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I like Sturridge. I know they have a couple of tough games coming up but he's good value. If you are looking for short term then yak looks the best option to me.

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          1. Salah’s Sonnet
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            i really do not like sturridge, had him when he did nothing, gor rid when he did everything, so that alone tells me he's gonna burn me, plus i dont want any chelsea atm, no good to me, scored much better without them, im considering having mata back tho further down the line.

            i reckon the yak was just a burst of temporary form, he'll dry up now until they play bolton. I think i'm gonan go ahead with Long, he's jsut as good as yakubu, scores almost every game he plays in and is a huge, massive differential. Cheers though.

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            1. UnderstandablyDistraught
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              good luck

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              1. Salah’s Sonnet
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                cheers man.

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  6. isacki: full casual
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Wondering how the BPs will look for tonight's match. Yes, yawn, but for a wider point. I'm especially interested not because I own Enrique and Schwarzer (although that helps) but because it's a good test of how much the PPI system deviates from FPL scoring. The goal came from a Reina mistake, was poached by Dempsey and is scored as a Murphy assist, but the majority of the game was Pool attacking. Henderson hit the post, I think Pool hit it again somehow, they had shots on target (I've got save points from Schwarzer) and really had Fulham under siege for a period after half time. So I wonder how Pool PPI scores will look against Dempsey and Murphy's. Also up to the goal, solid defensive work was made by both Fulham and Pool defenders, with a good number of clearances, headers and tackles especially around the Fulham box. Enrique made good runs and passes and I figure Hangeland and Senderos made enough interventions to warrant attention. All in all, it was an open and skilful game and not a boring flat points grab. It will be interesting to see how the assist, goal and loss of CS invalidate all the above.

    My hunch is that Dempsey will get 3, but the 2 will be a tossup between Murphy, Hangeland, Schwarzer and Enrique, with the losers falling to 1 or none. It could be pretty close and points shared.

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      murphy 3, dembele 2, schwarzer 1

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Interesting but not even any bonus for the goalscorer? You know what BPs are like. Someone pointed out to me earlier something like they got 3 in 11/13 1-0 wins. Will check.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          think 3 for murphy is a certainty. then i reckon it'll be very tight between dembele, dempsey, schwarzer and hangeland for the other bps

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Ditto, might be some serious 21-20-19-19 kind of stuff.

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      2. Lucky_2010
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        3-dempsey 2-murphy 1-schwarzer ...... i think so !!

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      3. mysteryDave
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That wouldn't be too disappointing. Dembele performed well. Both keepers looked good and stone great work disrupting the opponents from Etuhu. Adam was great for pool. Some decisions in Fulham's favour will partially help rob him of deserved bonus.

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        1. Carlos Danger
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          adam was great for pool? average at best, gave the ball away plenty of times tho admittedly not as much as previous games, and his usually incredibly wayward shots were only slightly wayward today, good game for him but in the context of his team and price tag, once again disappointing

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    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I guarantee the stupid new system will give points only to Fulham players. The emperor has no bonus points.

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      1. Lucky_2010
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        yeap, probably that's how the system works then ???

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    3. blue cheese
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Dempsey 3, Murphy 2, Schwarzer 1

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    4. Carlos Danger
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Majority of game was pool attacking? maybe slightly, but fulham had plenty of chances as well, don't be too angry if they all go to fulham players as both teams had good games, I expect them to all go to fulham players because it was so even and since fulham won it should tip the scales in their favor

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Quite possibly and that is in line with most predictions. PPI rewards goals, assists, shots, playing time, but also gives out a winning team bonus to all players on that team and distributes a CS bonus preferentially to defensive players. We just don't know the specifics. Obviously FFS are making a good go at working it out with their ICT Stats and their predictions are reaching significance, but I do wonder if we could crack it with a stats package linking PPI to as many stats as we can find...

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Or we could just give extra points to the players who score goals and get assists. That's how it seems to work as far as I can tell. I know I go on about it, but it really pisses me off. Nobody had any complaints about the old system, and it was far better to get your points later on day of, rather than on Monday morning. I'm pretty sure this site would admit the new system sucks balls if they weren't enforcedly in bed with FPL.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            See I was started as a casual last year so I have very little to compare this new system with. Treating it alone, my impression is that yes it basically tops up attacking points except in low scoring matches.

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            1. moment
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              My biggest issue is it simply doesn't reflect the aesthetic experience of watching a game. Who was the best player on the pitch for Chelsea Newcastle this weekend? Mata, by a mile. But his best moves involved passes to players who failed to score. So he gets nothing. Last year Charlie Adam got 3 pts every match whether Blackpool won, lost or drew. And fairly, because he was the shining light in pretty much every game he played.
              Outsource your scoring to an American company. Get nonsense...

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      2. mysteryDave
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1 First half was either teams. Cagey affair, Fulham probably slightly better. 2nd half started similar but Liverpool pressed and dominated until the red. Then with subs it became very open, again either team could have won.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Pretty good summary, I think that hectic Liverpool 2nd half siege may have stuck in my mind.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Because I had Schwarzer. Hahahaha...

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  7. mysteryDave
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Vorm Ruddy
    Jones Evans Rtaylor Brown Baines
    Silva Bale VDV OHara Ramsey
    VP Adebayor Yakubu

    Want to replace Evans & Ramsey. 12m budget for a defender and a mid. Suggestions?
    I'd quite like Enrique or Rafael in defence but needs a budget mid.

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    1. Guinney
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Enrique is a good option.
      Not as many good options for budget midfielders
      Seggesson (if u can stretch budget), Eagles, Brunt

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  8. blue cheese
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Fulham game bonus predictions ?

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    1. Kick Some Goals
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Jesus H Christ. Use your eyes. There are 4 posts immediately above yours talking about exactly that!

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    2. isacki: full casual
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Two posts above

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ok ok. Just that I'm eagerly waiting for my first 3 digit score this year. On 99 right now with Murphy

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I think you'll make it, might even manage 101. Nice!

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks 🙂

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  9. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Krul, BAE, Luke Young and Yaya going up tonight !!

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Luke Young's next 2 fixtures are against Liverpool and Man Utd, whats that all about!

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        a group of renegade sheep

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      2. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah. Weird. I have no clue

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          It takes at least a click of the mouse and a scroll to check a player's fixtures. That's pretty complicated, you have to admit.

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    2. mysteryDave
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I don't like the fixtures for those players, except Krul but I worry about him missing the protection of the regular centre backs.

      I can't see why anyone is buying these players, let alone so many knee jelling them ok so s to cause a price rise.

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  10. iLA
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Morning/evening everyone,

    Do you like this team for a 4 point hit? Or avoid the 4 point hit without doing Bendy to Sturridge?

    Vorm, Ruddy
    Jones, Shawcross, Naylor, Simpson, Brown
    Silva, VDV, Bale, Nani, Dyer
    VP, Ade, Sturridge

    Also how did Liverpool played last night? Haven't got the chance to watch the game or read through the forum.

    Thanks for any opinions 🙂

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bendy is a pestilent blight on any fantasy football team. But at the same time, 4 pts is 4 pts.

      I'd get rid of him myself, but I'm a compulsive team fiddler who took an 8pter last week and a 4pter this.

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      1. iLA
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate.

        Couldn't stand the sight of Bendy on my team anymore..always playing on the wings, shit team mates/supply, and not even on pens, but saying that he's playing BB while Sturridge has City 😕

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Who he used to play for, and who can't keep a clean sheet. I figure he'll score. But then I am a wildly optimistic Chelsea fan...

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      2. iLA
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Impressive team and value btw 😀 looking to have a team like yours myself.

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Swap you for your ranking! Made some bad captaincy choices early on... My strategy this year is to jump every bandwagon until I get to 110 mil, then bed down the real team - think I'm pretty close, got Verm in this week for Simpson, just need to shift De Laet and everyone's then a keeper. Thus 28 points in hits so far. But if 100 million gets you 2000 points over a season, 10 million gets you 100 in half a season, and so the hits first half are worthwhile.

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          1. iLA
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Make sense, the point hits will be recoverable over the season anyway if you pick the right players and it helps big time to have a high team value.

            You'd easily be catching up with the ranking in no time with that team imo 🙂

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  11. tangtastic
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Now that the gw's over.. was interested in knowing what everyone's score was this week. Mine was.. 84pts. Yours?

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      85

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        93

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    2. iLA
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      73 😡 but glad to still went up 200 or so ranking

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Nice ranking, I see from your history consistency is the name of the game. How'd you manage to avoid poor GWs so well?

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        1. iLA
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Thanks, got lucky with RVP when he was 11.9, tripled up on Spurs before everyone else did and just played it safe and avoid risky/unreasonable punt. What I'd do for a triple digit score though.

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          1. moment
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Would be nice, wouldn't it? Not sure I've ever had one outside of a DGW...

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            1. iLA
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              Yep, week after week looking at the highest scorer who barely made any transfers, has a ridiculous team and captain choices 😡

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          2. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Hmmm it's always greener on the other side, having a reliable points scoring nucleus to your team is what most people are trying to reach, let alone explosive. Looking at 60 as the target average GW score, it becomes evident you need ~5 from each player when you consider the captaincy too. And yet that's difficult - a single assist nothing more - particularly in mids! I used to think top rankers built a really stable lineup they could persist with over the season - don't know what your experience is there - but now I'm of the opinion that the game is about joining and leaving bandwagons at the right times. So the squad is in a constant state of flux. Evolution, not revolution. As Alan Partridge said. Haha!

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            1. iLA
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              This is my first season so I don't have any experience on whats the right way to get the points. The most ideal case is your whole team contributing points while the expensive players getting their explosive hauls.

              But its such an unpredictable game like Lampards vs Wolves, and who the hell expect him to get a -1 vs Newcastle, so I guess most of it comes down to luck. But yeah, gotta jump on the correct bandwagons early and avoid the stupid ones.

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              1. isacki: full casual
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                Yep. This is my second season but the first I've actually logged in every week. Can't believe how negligent I was last year, just picked Tevez, Sturridge and Cahill and checked back every fortnight or so to see half my players were now injured and having not made a transfer for a month I was now going to take a -12 hit lol.

                Aside from the obvious luck factor, patience really is one. I take way too many hits but only because they often produce spectacular results.

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    3. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      72, pleased, shooting up rankings now, my rival at top of my mini league 100. Ah well, all about VDV this gameweek so should catch up on his Bale-ness haha.

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      87, not really holding breath on BPs from tonight.
      First week I really feel my embarrassingly large time investment into FPL paid off over the casual.

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    5. moment
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      88. -8 for some transfers that were worthwhile in terms of team value.

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  12. Jinswick
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Didn't catch the game last night, but I transferred Suarez in before it - did he play well?

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Er... well... in real life, ok, in fantasy and PPI terms no. Don't hold breath on bonus...

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
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      He played. He played like Suarez.

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      1. Carlos Danger
        • 14 Years
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        lol

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    3. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      played well enough and was unlucky to have a goal disallowed for marginal offside

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    4. Carlos Danger
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      why on earth...?

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    5. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers chaps. I didn't have him for this week, but will for QPR at the w/e. Let's hope he can turn that potential into points!!

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        He has to Suakubu at some point

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        1. Jinswick
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          No idea what that word means, but assume you mean score and assist goals? 😉

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            suarez + yakubu scoring performance.

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            1. isacki: full casual
              • 14 Years
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              Didn't he bang in 4 goals against Chile or something two weeks ago? I have literally no idea how that happened. Maybe over there what they call a goal is what we call a "shank"

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  13. Mike-Kovic
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    need advise for this week

    Vorm, krul
    Jones, vemae, BAE, enrique, simpson
    Silva, Bale, walters, pilky, dyer
    RVP, Ade,ba

    quite well last week 100 pts if enrique CS
    dont think too many pts from this team this week
    need improvement

    thinking of mata,richard,aguero or man u ATT coverage

    help pls...

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani in for Walters via a downgrade in defence.

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      1. Mike-Kovic
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        if nani price fall 9.8 and walters price become 6.8..possibly just transfer walters>>>nani without downgrade defence..huhuhu

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        1. Jafalad
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          You have 4 exp defenders which gives you a weak midfield. Only one needed.

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          1. Mike-Kovic
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            whose the chosen one to come out n the other chosen one to come in..thnx

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  14. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who's still left in the cup then? Be good to draw someone who actually posts on here this week!!

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    1. teto
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Im through also. Looking forward to someone from here also

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    2. Mike-Kovic
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i dont even know what cup...

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  15. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    GW average now 53 pts, yikes, that was a slighty higher jump from this morning than I expected even with auto subs kicking in.

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  16. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Worth taking any hits to improve this lot? 0.0m in the bank.

    Westwood
    Vermaelen, P Jones, Brown
    VDV, Silva, Ramsey, Sinclair
    RVP(c), Suarez(v), Adebayor

    Ruddy, Reo-Coker, Simpson, Wilkinson

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Suarez->Ba/Studge
      Ramsaey->Nani

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I only just brought Suarez in yesterday!! 😉

        If VDV is confirmed out this w/e I may take a hit for Nani....

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Suarez is touch & go. He could suffer bans for multiple reasons now. Best to get him out next GW latest. 😛

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  17. tezzaboy7
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Scored 67+ possible Enique bonus (optimistic i know lol) which i was content with this week seeing as though i top scored in one of my mini leagues and 3rd top in the other. That being said tho it seems the average score out of those chaps on here was far higher. Thus i will bow to superior knowledge. Any ideas on what to do with this lot lads? Have 2 FT's and just the 0.4m in the bank.

    Vorm/Kenny
    Enrique/Raylor/Brown/Jones/Richards
    Dyer/VDV/Mata/Silva/Sess
    RVP/Ade/Sturridge

    Cheers in advance.

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      VDV->Bale
      Sess->Nani (if you have the cash)

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    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Good squad - why 67, did you not captain RVP? Priority would be defense. Midfield is good I think, although holding on to VDV right now is psychologically difficult. My suspicion is the Geordies (fixtures notwithstanding) will regress to the norm, and thus Raylor out should be your priority. BAE's a sensible swap, decent fixtures and will rise in price tonight. That gives you 0.6 cash to use next week...

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      1. tezzaboy7
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for the feedback guys and no I went with the Barndoor as captain. Shocking error i know.

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice team, WCed recently?

      I'd possibly downgrade Richards + Raylor & get Nani in. You'd have a kickass midfield then.

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      1. tezzaboy7
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I wildcarded gameweek 7. I think. Dont know if Im sold on Nani yet altho with Chicharito out for a while his appeal does increase. May give it one more week altho would like to have him this week for his fixture.

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  18. moment
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Amused that totalfpl have decided that Enrique actually got a CS for their dream team (http://totalfpl.com/). Would that I could make that decision myself in FPL.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I saw that too, hilarious. With that correction in mind, looks like anyone who scored 80+ outperformeed both TOTALFPL and Scout Picks.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry 88+

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  19. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Team for GW 15.

    Vorm
    JE Brown Simpson
    VDV Silva Bale Sinclair
    RVP Studge Helguson
    Subs – Moses ShawX Wilko
    1 FT 5.0 Bank WC available

    Transfer suggestions anyone?

    Was the Pool defence looking solid last night without Lucas? Considering keeping Helgicopter in that case.

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    1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Hey elnino

      Hope your week was better than mine. Total disaster. Cheap defense really screwed me, this time, I guess. And studge>Ba plus another crappy one from Rooney did me no favors, either. O yeah, and ShawX on bench. Blah.....seeing all these 85-90 point hauls are killing me.

      Simpson is looking awful risky, but I guess with two stoke defenders, he is the better bet. Maybe transfer needs to be ShawX out for your choice of Baines/Verm/Jones/Kompany/Richards. I like the cheapie defense strategy but I'm starting to lose hope in it after it totally killed me this weekend.

      I guess you also after to ask yourself what you think of VDV. Its a real solid team though.

      Blah, its weeks like this that make you want to quit the game.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Yo Newman!

        Feel your pain buddy. But hey 61 is a pretty neat score (atleast you didn't get a 35ish gw score like me in gw13). There are loads of 35-50s this gw around here, but they aren't posting much for the last 24 hrs...i guess you know why 😛

        Btw I have a classic h2h dilemma & my rival has a stronger team on paper.

        Common players: Vorm; Enrique; Silva, VDV; Studge, RVP.

        Me: Brown, Simpson; Sinclair, Bale, Helguson
        My Rival: Naylor/Kompany, Jones; Brunt, Mata, Adebayor

        I’m guessing my rival would do Mata/VDV > Bale with his FT this GW. I have 5mil in my bank. Considering all this, do you still think I should just get Jones in? Or should I try to differentiate and get the Verminator/Vidic/Ba in?

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        1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Well, I try never to do transfers based on H2H opponents: just trust your team. Make the best transfer possible with the information you have.

          I'm pretty high on Ba. I guess I have to be after missing the Studge haul for him.

          I'm thinking about Jones or Richards. If it were Richards, surely not this week. Jones should get a cleanie and more, so that makes sense. I can't justify Verm because I don't think this will continue but maybe I'm wrong. Of those choices I predictably like Ba the best, with Vidic as the second choice.

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Same here. Prefer Ba the most.

            You don't rate Smalling much? I actually thought he has a realistic chance of starting most games. He was pretty much their best defender against AVL.

            How about ShawX > Vidic/Smalling/Jones for a hit?

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      2. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Also, cheer up! Congrats on your 2nd L5 win...nice going.

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        1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah, I guess that is the league I care about the most, so being 2-0 if ok I guess.

          I'm just so down this week. Everyone else did so good, and my 'genius' cheapo defense is up in smoke now.

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            The cheapo defense will deliver, being the most logical concept. Let's keep the faith! 😛

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  20. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Price Changes | Tue 06 Dec 03:00 AM UK Time

    + Krul ; BAE, L.Young ; Y.Toure

    - Nasri, Cleverly, Rose ; A.Johnson, Graham

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    1. Mike-Kovic
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      0.2 up for me..

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    2. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Love it that Nasri and Johnson scored this week. No justice lads.

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      1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        It's Andy Johnson of Fulham. Sorry that it's not clear.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8

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  21. Switchfoot4
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Jafa and the rest of the dead zone.
    What to do with this

    Vorm Krul
    Baines Brown Walker Raylor Hall
    Silver Mata Bale Drenthe Dyer
    RVP Ade Baaaaaaaa

    Was think Baines to 4.6 and Drenthe to Nani
    or Brown to Jones and Drenthe to 4.8
    thought?

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Baines to Oily Mac and Drenthe to Nani

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      1. Switchfoot4
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Oily who??

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          McAuley (WBA)

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          1. Switchfoot4
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            ah OK

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      If I had Baines, I'd be holding. Not a lot needs changing tbh, Mata->Nani possibly?

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      1. Switchfoot4
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Nah I've had Mata since he came in gw 3, will be a keeper for me unless he gets injured. He is just hitting his straps

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        1. Jafalad
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Agreed. You'll have to take an extra transfer to accommodate Nani.

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  22. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Gotta ask you Baines owners....why getting rid now? because of one bad week?

    If you bought him, you bought him for fixtures: granted, the next one sucks, but the two after are fine. What gives?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      why you keep him?
      Everton very poor in attack.
      100 crosses of baines still mealess if Everton cannt score.

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      1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Well yeah, I agree on that. This is why I never bought him: I don't think he's worth it.

        But if you already bothered to drop that much cash, why get rid now?

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    2. Switchfoot4
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I want some United cover

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    3. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I can understand their pain....Eve looked really poor. I doubt they'd squeeze in even 1-2 goals in the next 3 with this form.

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    4. SneakyPete
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I m keeping 🙂

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  23. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone thinking of doubling up on United defence? Jones + Smalling/Vidic.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      me, just think about it yesterday
      i'll go Jones, Smalling

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  24. Bolt-on
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    thinking VDV to nani
    plus bentner to wellbeck...

    worth the 4 point hit?

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani check
      Welbeck no - wait to see how Utd are going to line up first. Ba a better bet.

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      1. Bolt-on
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        ta

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  25. Huckleberry
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What are the likely consequences of the Suarez middle finger incident? Any precedent?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/06/liverpool-luis-suarez-gesture

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      could be a 3 match ban..

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      6 matches banned!

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    3. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Continued failure to pick up more than 2 pts per game.

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  26. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    really don't know what to do about getting some Everton players for the double gameweek..the only 2 players I find have value worth getting is Osman and Fellani....

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    1. Bolt-on
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      have to give it to that club they look ordinary have ordinary players dont speend money but always finish at the back end of the season with a bang...

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Too early to be looking at that team for a dgw that is 5 games away imo

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        5 game weeks..yes but actually its only 3 calendar weeks

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        1. Bolt-on
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          that doesnt make sense

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  27. moment
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Apropos of nothing, just watching Monday Night Steroid-Ball, I do think Premiership commentators could learn a lot from their American Football colleagues. I wonder what would happen if John Motson started waxing lyrical about what physical specimens the players are. "There goes Micah Richards, 190 lbs of pure muscle. His legs are the size of your head. Ooh..." "Yes, John, his thighs are the size of pumpkins".

    It's bizarrely homoerotic, when you pause to think about it. And suddenly Penn State makes sense.

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nose tackles, Tight ends and Wide receivers

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      1. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        A very good point.

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  28. SneakyPete
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Scored 86 this week, my best this season so far. Need suggestion for next week

    Here is my team ( I got 2 FT )

    Vorm/Schwarzer
    Ward/De Leat/Brown/Jones/Baines
    Dyer/Bale/Nani/Silva/Drenthe
    RVP/Bendtner/Sturridge

    0.2 in bank.

    Cheers in advance 🙂

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    1. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'd probably do Ward & Bendtner -> Kelly & Ba.

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Excellent score.
      Bendtner->Ba
      De Leat->Simpson

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      1. SneakyPete
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Ward have 2 home game coming up and Simpson CS chances are not bright with injuries of Saylor and Colo :(. I m also thinking same on bendtner one.

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        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Whe then I suppose your only option is swapping Bendtner to Helguson or Yakubu unless you downgrade Schwarzer to Sorensen / Cerny.

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          1. SneakyPete
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            What about Shane long this week and then Yakubu next week who got 2 home games.

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      2. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That's £0.6m out of his price range

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  29. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Clint Depsey, anyone?

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    1. Switchfoot4
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Is he the guy with the lisp? Depsey?

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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I gave him a look last week but dont think run of fixtures looks very favourable

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  30. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Right lads i'm fed up of Suarez so I might get rid even though he has QPR at home this week. Also losing patience with Brunt but obviously leaving him in for Wigan.
    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/917/history/

    Vorm, Westwood
    Jones, Enrique, Warnock, Simpson, Naylor
    Silva, VDV, Larsson, Brunt, Moses
    RVP, Suarez, Adebayor

    2 Freebies & £.8m
    So this week i'm thinking Warnock & Suarez -> Kelly & Ba
    Which leaves £4.3m to swap Naylor to Baines or Brunt to Nani / Bale next week.

    Any alternatives?

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Suarez->Ba/Studge
      Brunt/Larsson->Nani

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      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Not getting rid of Larsson and can't afford it with Brunt, and besides.. Brunt has Wigan at home this weekend.

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        1. Jafalad
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Don't see the point on hanging onto them tbh. Never rated Brunt who continually underperforms.

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          1. SneakyPete
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Keep Brunt for this GW with wingie and long up front, I m sure he will deliver.

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