[sbu_large_image] Champions League
8 December 2011 564 comments
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Matchday Six of the UEFA Champions League (UCL) Fantasy Game brought the group stages to a close with an almighty crash. What follows are our talking points as sixteen sides progressed, eight dropped into the Europa League, while the rest packed their suitcases and said their goodbyes for another season…

Barcelona’s kids are a first team in their own right

Pep Guardiola already knew that his side were not only through to the knockout stages but had guaranteed themselves top spot in their group. As a result, the manager afforded himself the opportunity to rest most of his first team ahead of an all-important El Clasico in Madrid this week.

Alan Hansen famously once said “you don’t win anything with kids” but, if the recent crop to have come through La Masia are anything to go by, then the result at the Nou Camp was just the first of a generation of potential results as Barcelona were comfortable 4-0 victors over BATE Borisov.

World Cup winner Pedro was the man of experience leading from the front; he grabbed 2 goals while recent breakthrough Isaac Cuenca set up a pair and won a penalty himself. All this before mentioning Thiago pulling the strings in midfield, as well as fellow European Under 21 Championship winner Martin Montoya keeping a clean sheet and notching a goal, too.

All that and an abundance of young talent on the field around them. There must be something in the water in Barcelona.

Group G belies expectations for one last time

Heading into the final round of the group stages we knew only one thing for certain and that was Shakhtar Donetsk were the only of the sides in the group with nothing left to play for.

The results (FC Porto 0-0 Zenit and APOEL 0-2 Shakhtar) went against all expectations. Porto pushed and pushed for the goal they needed but just weren’t able to breach the opposition back-four, with 21 recovered balls for Lombaerts indicative of the almighty defensive effort that Zenit produced.

FC APOEL can perhaps be accused of being caught napping after becoming the first Cypriot side to qualify for the Champions League stages last Matchday but, even with Luiz Adriano and Yevhen Seleznyov scoring against them, they find themselves top of the group and sailing right through until February.

Channel five just won the footballing lottery

Goals from David Silva and Yaya Toure helped Manchester City record a comfortable 2-0 victory over a second string Bayern Munich side, as Roberto Mancini’s side tried valiantly to keep their debut Champions League dream alive. Their fate was rather out of their own hands, however, and a 2-0 victory away at Villarreal for Napoli ended the Citizens’ hopes of advancing. As twitter behemoth OptaJoe pointed out, City were unfortunate to be the first side in four years to reach double points and not qualify for the knockout stages.

The big shock of the night involved their rivals from across the city. Manchester United traveled to FC Basel knowing they needed just a draw to make the knockout stages but with Nemanja Vidic stretched off in the first half, Fergie’s side succumbed to a 2-1 defeat that will reverberate around Europe.

United have gone from Champions League finalists to being knocked out of the group stages by a (wholly deserving) Swiss side in the space of six short months. They were outplayed and outwitted by Basel and, despite a late Phil Jones goal inspiring a potential late comeback, they ultimately fell short. Just two victories, both against Romanian outfit Otelul Galati, were all that United were able to muster across a disparate campaign. The Europa League is a wholly unexpected and stark reality for a club of this size but the results on the table haven’t been good enough to argue against it being anything other than fair. If not entirely shocking.

With Birmingham and Spurs all but set to depart the Europa League, the powers that be over at Channel 5 will be popping champagne knowing that Manchester United and Manchester City will be their replacements in waiting in their live fixture schedule.

The French contingent don’t give up and surrender easily

Lyon headed into Tuesday night knowing that they had a monumental uphill struggle on their hands. The French side needed to beat Dinamo Zagreb as well as hoping Real Madrid’s “second string” would beat Ajax at the Amsterdam Arena. They also needed a difference of at least seven goals to come from these results.

At the half-way stage of their trip to Croatia, Jose Mourinho’s men had done much of their part as Jose Callejon and Gonzalo Higuiain put Madrid two goals to the good (in a game which ended 0-3 with a late second Callejon strike), Lyon were drawing 1-1 and looked on all counts to fall that little bit short. Three quick goals after half-time and all of a sudden Lyon supercharged their way into the knockout stages in what eventually turned out to be a 7-1 away victory, with Bafetimbi Gomis grabbing himself the quickest hat-trick in Champions League history as part of a four goal haul.

Stunning stuff. Accusations of some strange goings on have already started to creep up from those who dare stick their heads above the parapet.

The previous night their compatriots Marseille showed similar spirit to recover an unlikely victory from the jaws of defeat and live to fight another day in the Champions League. Travelling to Dortmund, the Jekyll and Hyde side of France knew that a victory at the German champions would guarantee them a place in the impending draw.

Eight-four minutes in and 2-1 down, all money would have been on Olympiakos (cruising to victory over Arsenal) nabbing the second spot in Group F. Instead, two late goals from Andre Ayew and substitute Mathieu saw Didier Deschamps’ side snatch a sensational last-gasp victory. The last sixteen now beckons for both sides.

Getting knocked out could be the best thing to happen to some sides

It was, in fact, Ligue 1 champions Lille who failed to follow the national pattern as they stumbled in the easiest of the three fixtures the trio of French sides faced in the final Matchday. A win at home to Trabzonspor would have seen Rudi Garcia’s team join Marseille and Lyon in the knockout stages but, sadly, it was not to be.

Instead, a lacklustre 0-0 draw saw Joe Cole and co not only out of the Champions League but out of Europe entirely, as CSKA’s victory away at Inter saw them push Lille down into fourth place in their group.

While no-one in the region of Lille will be celebrating last night’s results, the simple fact remains that they now have the extra time needed in their attempt to defend the Ligue 1 title over their main challengers of the Qatari rich outfit at PSG. Similar thoughts will be ringing around the heads of fans of the aforementioned Borussia Dortmund. The reigning German champions, by virtue of coming last in Group F, will now spend their midweeks in spring trying to keep Bayern Munich’s hands off the Bundesliga title for a second season running.

One could even argue that the potentially lackadaisical approach we may see in the Europa League this next year could afford both Manchester United and City even more leeway over their rivals in the fight for the 2011/12 Premier League title. Though there is without any doubt this end result was not on any master plan for either Roberto Mancini or Sir Alex Ferguson.

Congratulations to Bayern Munich, Napoli, Inter Milan, CSKA Moscow, Benfica, FC Basel, Real Madrid, Lyon, Chelsea, Bayer Leverkusen, Arsenal, Marseilles, FC APOEL, Zenit St. Petersburg, Barcelona and AC Milan. We’ll be back in the new year to plot all the way through the group stages and onto the final where one of these sixteen sides will be crowned European Champions.

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  1. Tommyg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I know this has been discussed to death but I'm really stuck.

    Nani worth a 4 point hit or not? Predicted score for him?

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    1. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Taking Ramsey out for him.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I really wouldn't, not for a hit. MU form is bad getting worse, although upcoming fixs are clearly decent.

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Think that's what i'll be doing.

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    4. adziom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I got Nani for Ramsey but not for a hit. Ramsey has Everton at Home... I wouldn't take him out for Nani for a hit...

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    5. theotherguy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't.

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  2. beslowbowler
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    LOL at Busquets' Dog

    http://www.balls.ie/2011/12/08/busquets-dog/

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    1. Drip Doctor
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Hahaha that is brilliant.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        😆 Superb!

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    2. jamsiep
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      ahahahahahahahahaha!

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    3. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      😆

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      1. Tommyg
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Genius. Lol

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    4. Darkwood Dub
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      brilliant!!!

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    5. AP
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      heheh

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  3. Diabolikal49
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    I’m having sub decision woes. My current team looks like this:

    Vorm
    Walker – JEnrique – Jones – Vermaelan
    Eagles – Nani(c) – Bale – Silva
    RVP(v) – Adebayor

    Krul || Sturridge – RTaylor – Ferguson

    Who would YOU play/sub? What are your reasons for doing so?

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Looks about right, cracking defence and midfield. Have doubts about Adebayor (inconsistency) and Nani (team form and individual form ) but there are few alternatives. Sticking with Eagles like me? I really hope he delivers like in that 5-0 on Stoke, so many points if Bolton turn up.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'd play Studge over Eagles, myself. Probably Eagles 1st sub, then Raylor.

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    3. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Dammit... see comment below. I agree, studge instead of eagles

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      1. Diabolikal49
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I was tempted to do so, because it's a favourable attacking fixture for him. City tend to concede.

        Ok Eagles as 1st sub, replaced by Sturridge.

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    4. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Am I the only one who would play Eagles over Walker? No-brainer imo

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        In these fixtures Eagles not Walker is a no brainer. Sturridge might edge Eagles though.

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  4. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    RMT...

    Westwood
    Vermaelen, P Jones, Brown
    Silva, VDV, Ramsey, Sinclair
    RVP(c), Suarez(v), Adebayor

    Ruddy, Reo-Coker, Simpson, Wilko

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    1. Funkyav
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      6.5

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    2. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      8/10, I like it maybe next week - suarez to ba to upgrade reocoker?

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Yep, if he gets banned (likely) then that's what I'll probably do. If not and Ramsey fails again he is on the chopping board! Best replacement for Rambo?

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  5. Milan
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Dinamo-Lyon was fixed for sure, anyone watching the start of the second half could tell that something fishy was going on during the halftime. Dinamo defenders, mids and goalkeeper just getting out of the way, Ajax fans should be rightfully pi**ed.

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      hmmm...i wonder wether the lyon boss spent his halftime talk in the dinamo dressing room..

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    2. Darkwood Dub
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      two words - zdravko mamic! oh wait, its four. + Michele Platini.

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  6. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Pick a combo...gw18/19

    Mata + Welbeck vs Nani + Sturr

    16.6m vs 16.3m

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      nani + sturr

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    2. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      nani + sturr

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    3. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      mata + welbeck

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    4. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Mata+Welbeck

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    5. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      doesnt solve ur prob , does it ? ^

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  7. viewoftheland
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    OK Baines, you're coming in (next week). Who's best to ditch out of Wilkinson or McAuley?

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      both are useless, flip a coin

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      1. viewoftheland
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Not useless, else I wouldnt have brought them in. If Wilko keeps his place, I'd have him. Fancy Stoke to get back to their usual miserly form once Europa League shuts down for winter. But think McAuley is more nailed on for a start.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'd stick with Wilko on basis that I believe Pulis can get Stoke home form back on track. Not convinced by WBrom in Def.

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      1. viewoftheland
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah, thats the way my thinking is going. I'm just slightly concerned about him keeping his place.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Outrageous. And actually knowing Dinamo I believe that that match was fixed. Classic

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    2. Darkwood Dub
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      hahaha where did you found that? thats funny 🙂 although its not funny to Ajax supporters. thats the guy who wink to Gomis?

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Its all over Dutch websites this morning. Yes it is the guy who winked.

        It was bad enough at the match last night when those goals weren't given, to see the Lyon score, but didn't actually see any footage of that match until this morning - made it so much worse!

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  8. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    What exactly is being suggested about Lyon 7 Dinamo 1? That Lyon paid Dinamo to be thrashed? Did Dinamo have any chance of qualifying for the next round / Europa League? Does their manager's sacking imply anything either way?

    Very suspicious tbh.

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    1. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      dinamo had nothing to play for but the way they conceded those goals in the 2nd half was unreal

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        never seen anything like it. Additionally the 2 yellows for Keko were such obvious cardable challenges you would almost think a red card was part of the plan to explain why they might concede 6 in the 2nd half

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          What about these pictures of one of their players leaving a bookies before the game? I thought you couldn't bet on your team? Maybe you can in Croatia.

          Kind of doubt Lyon would take the risk of bribing outright - look what happened to Juventus, Marseilles, too many people involved too. Ref was okay wasn't he so he's nnot involved? More likely to be a Dinamo rollover to win a bet.

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          1. pompeyfan
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            there's no evidence of him betting on that match, its just a picture people have used to show that he likes a bet

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    2. Darkwood Dub
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      no, zagreb didnt have anything to play for, Ajax was their main rival, and two clearly regular goals for ajax were disallowed! smells like uefa (french, platini) conspiracy!

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      1. Funkyav
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        is anything going to be done about this?

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        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          doubt it, unless the Dutch papers want to start doing their own investigative research looking for some evidence

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            BBC have been doing this for years against FIFA for corruption, not changed their behaviour. I find it hard to imagine anything you could dig up that would finish them aside from maybe video footage of the Lyon manager handing banknotes to Dinamo's!

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            1. Darkwood Dub
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              this is what i found in croatian site. you wont understand much, there is no english version, but you can see bank paying slip from bank lyones to NK Dinamo zagreb on 2.1M

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              1. isacki: full casual
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                Speak of the devil, that is a smoking gun, but surely they wouldn't make it that obvious? That's like the kind of thing people put online to take the piss

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              2. pompeyfan
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                That 'banking slip' reeks of photoshop. As if a bung would be paid with an old fashioned paying in slip. I saw that earlier, obviously it is total nonsence.

                The betting shop picture is from 18 months ago, so could only be used to prove that he liked a bet

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                1. isacki: full casual
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 4 months ago

                  This is gonna run and run, now betting authorities are looking into it expect the usual steady stream of rumours, arrests and denials.

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        2. CRUSHER
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          French and belgian betting authorities are launching investigations apparently. If they find something concrete, surely uefa would have to do something.

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          1. pompeyfan
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            definitely, if they find evidence Uefa can't ignore it

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  9. Test Eagles
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Eagles bench, Sturridge on... Man city havent kept a clean sheet for 2 months and Chelsea, whilst will definitely concede, will also likely score a couple themselves!

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  10. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Perhaps the man to benefit most from Vidic being injures is Ferdinand? He should be pretty nailed on now at 6.5, or do we think his body just can't handle it and he'll be left out anyway at times?

    Phil Jones in midfield is pretty good by the way, he'll get more points from there than from CB. I wouldn't love it if I was a United fan though, for some reason he was the one having to play the final pass in so many attacks yesterday and it didn't really work out

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Excellent post on Jones, 100% spot on i reckon. He can be such an asset in those central areas but his flaws are obvious

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Totally agree.

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I think it's a remarkable reflection on the squad and player that a CB is playing CM and scoring in successive matches from open play. Had him both in FPL and UCL and made an absolute killing from him! But he's being asked to do too much, just like Rooney, and he's not a playmaker and if in midfield should definitely be playing a holding/supporting role! The big question is where were Nani and Young when United most needed them to deliver what they paid them for, and why are people bringing them in for FPL?

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        1. Funkyav
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          massive questions marks over a lot of Utd players right now.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah, cannot understand the rush to invest. Awful goalscoring form and defence is going back into a shaky patch with Vidic gone I think. Could be playing Thursdays next season 😀

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  11. tosey
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    vidic, simpson out
    skrtel, agger in

    leaves me with 3 pool defenders

    6/7 nice fixtures until i wildcard and no worries about rotation

    thoughts?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Bold move for a team that has 4 pts from last 3 games against lower Prem teams. Do it!

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        2 CSs 🙂

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        1. tosey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          and theyve only conceded more than once this season against spurs when they had 9 men

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    2. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Absolute madness!!! If I were ur mother you'd be going to bed with no dinner for such silliness!

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      1. tosey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        i did it last december n went from 25k up to about 5k by the end of it i think

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        1. Test Eagles
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I hope u prove me wrong, it's a gutsy one that could pay off big time!

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        2. kaz 96
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          that was LAST year. lets go and get tevez cuz he was brilliant last year...

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          1. tosey
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            they're better at the back this year

            im just saying it can pay off...

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            1. kaz 96
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              it could, but still...

              nvm, whatever floats ur boat..

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              1. tosey
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                you dont break into the top 1k or so without taking a few risks...

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Here we go again. Tripling its all it matters.

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    4. kaz 96
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      terrible choice imo
      they arent the cheapest players around and an odd goal against them form here and there would porbably ruin ur whole gameweek

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    5. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ballsy.

      I did not realize you had Vidic, thought you were considering buying him.

      😕

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      1. tosey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        bought him last week. he got me 6pts more than wes brown did n it was for free so technically taking a hit this week will be covered by that

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        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Haha, always a way to justify a hit 😀 Maybe I should get Nani in for DVD for a 4 pt...i mean Nani only needs to make it up in gw 18/19...

          😉

          No seriously, bad luck tosey.

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    6. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      not saying anything against you tosey, but if this had come from a less well known person here, most of us would have ignored the post and the other few would have called the poster mad. no offence at all intended.

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      1. kaz 96
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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    7. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Big risk .. could pay off.

      Danger is, if you do it you're settled with 3 liverpool defenders for 5 weeks I reckon. I'd rather just do Vidic --> Agger.

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    8. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Doubling up maybe, but tripling leaves you very exposed, but certainly ballsy!

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  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Friedel (Away to Spurs) or Vorm (Home to fulham) this week?

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Friedel is away to Stoke but anyway.... Vorm

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    2. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      vorm at home is a guaranteed clean sheet

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      1. Jonah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        What a load of rubbish.

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    3. udit
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Friedel away to spurs eh? but still vorm

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry my mistake ha meant stoke, yea will go with vorm

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  13. LaLaLand
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.hdvideoforums.org
    literally crying with laughter

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    1. Funkyav
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      what at?

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  14. Kuqi Monster
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    fiso more reliable on price falls than totalfpl right?

    fiso has given at 68% to drop, whereas totalfpl have him as 112%

    plan on shipping bendy out for ba this week, and then get a replacement for given to rotate with vorm, could do without given dropping another 0.1.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I sold Given several week ago and used the cash for Bale. I thought that that extra million/ 0/5m will surely bring me back that 4 point in the near future, So I would sell him for Ruddy/ Lindegaard/ Hilario

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      1. Kuqi Monster
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        don't want to take a hit on a gk when I'll be playing vorm this week, looking at getting in schwarzer next week, just want to avoid the price drop

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        1. Rwilliams90
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          In the same boat, hoping he doesnt rise before saturday.

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  15. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anthony James Hibbert - 4.8. Interesting.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Is he? 1s, 2s all season by twice (1x 6, 1x 7). Poor player in my book, playing in a struggling defence and Baines is the only Toffee I'd consider.

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    2. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      bought him in for shawcross last week, then stoke got the clean sheet!

      Still, nice fixtures coming up...

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    3. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      not

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      1. Funkyav
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        of no interest whatsoever.

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  16. Chris Highwind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Really unsure in who to put as sub this week...
    Vorm(Howard)
    Enrique, Brown, Raylor
    Mata, Silva, Ben Arfa, Bale
    Sturridge, Adebayor(vc), RVP(c)
    Subs: Richards, Drenthe, Shawx

    I want to play Richards but with Mata and Sturridge playing I'm unsure...

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      That's exactly how I'd play your team. Both Micha and Raylor have good att potential but Raylor by far has a better chance of a CS. Stick CH.

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ben Arfa. I don't think he'll start.

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    3. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I reckon you've got that right mate, Chelsea should score at home

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    4. Psychos got ya number
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Why not just play Richards over Brown or Raylor, neither of whom are very likely to keep a CS

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  17. Nicti
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Brown, Rtaylor, BAE, Enrique, Ntaylor
    who shall start?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I guess 3/5 so Naylor/Bae/Brown/Enrique and bench one mid

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      1. Nicti
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks. What if i only need 3 defs? Which 3 do u think?

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  18. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Still pondering over this bloody VDV/Bale situation. I'm just trying to work out what I'd be more frustrated by:

    1) Keeping VDV, he comes of after 60mins for Defoe, bagging a cool 2pts, whilst Bale gets another haul

    2) Spunking a transfer on VDV > Bale, only for us to get back to the normality of VDV scoring and Bale getting 2 pts.

    ARRRRRGGGGHHHH

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Stop agonising and play both. 🙂 I am. 🙂

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Spurs fans think that he'll start. Defoe has Europa league and DVD will be extremely motivated to get back his shirt. I like his chances. I considered selling for Nani who has Wol but than I realized that actually Nani has 2 away games next qpr and ful, teams that I trust defensively wise.

      I would keep DVD and bring Bale somehow too. He would repay the potential 4 point hit in midterm even if he draws a blank this week. And both of them are potential captain choices next week.

      Cheers,

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        P.S. Congra on last year top 100

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      2. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I have both Dan. Was considering doing Dvd-->Nani for a 4 pt hit and doing the opposite next week?

        Can also get in Jones for the 4pt hit...?

        If neither then Im going with
        Vorm
        Naylor/Browneye/Enrigue
        Silva/Dvd/bale/Sezzg
        ba/rvp/ade

        bench krul/pilks/tierney/simpson

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm very confident VDV will start this week, I wouldn't make the transfer myself

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    4. SmokeyH
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Keep DVD...he has to start

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  19. Sammy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Kompany to jones and brown to naylor.

    Yay or nay?

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  20. Screaming Midget
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I think for this GW, for me, it's going to be a case of, 'If in doubt - do nowt'

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I did that last week...cost me 12 pts

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      1. Screaming Midget
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Did it 2 weeks ago and worked well.

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  21. Frazek
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Question. Play Formica (BLA) away to SUN, or Simpson (NEW) away to NOR?

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    1. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      could go either way, formica doesn't seem to be guaranteed 90 mins which could decide things...

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        He's not done too badly for that, 3x 90 min games in last 5, plus a 67 min then 8 min. But he is tremendously unreliable. I figured, 'cause he looks like Kaka, he can play like Kaka, and it's been true, just a shame that it's been Real Madrid Kaka, not Milan Kaka.

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    2. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      formica

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  22. Rwilliams90
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Four injured players at the moment, great. Looks like I'm going to take my first hit this season.

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  23. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Team for this week:

    Vorm FUL (H)

    McAuley WIG (H) Kompany CHE (A) Brown BLA (H)

    Bale STO (A) Walters TOT (H) Van der Vaart STO (A) Silva CHE (A)

    Adebayor STO (A) Yakubu SUN (A) Van Persie(c) EVE (H)

    _________________________________________________________

    Krul NOR (A) Eagles AVL (H) Taylor FUL (H) Wilkinson TOT (H)
    _________________________________________________________

    Really want to start bolstering up the back line for the christmas period so was half thinking of Brown to Smalling this week - have just enough funds to do it at present. Is there anything else I should be looking at and does tea/sub setup look ok for this weekend. Thanks.

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Taylor instead of Kompany?

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Verm

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      1. theotherguy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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      2. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I'd love the Verminator, but can't afford this week, so maybe i'll hold fire on my FT and save 2 for next week giving me a bit more scope....cheers for the advice 🙂

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  24. si
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Delighted I clung on to bloody Bendy for the Blackburn game.

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    1. Funkyav
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      not sure why anyone would have ever got him in first place?

      For me he is a fantasy no go Bendtner

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    2. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Just get Ba. Sorted.

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    3. theotherguy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I really hope Sess hauls some big points this week, he's looked pretty good in the last few matches just hasn't quite managed to find the net.

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  25. tosey
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    transfers done!

    vorm
    enrique, agger, skrtel
    vdv, bale, gower, sessegnon
    adebayor, aguero, RVP

    ruddy, moses, wilkinson, caulker

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Bring on the tripling. I don't know why but I am happy to see you tripling again.

      But have you thought about Carra? If he is back, Agger could be dropped.

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      1. tosey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        carragher was on the bench 3 weeks ago against chelsea

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I think Kenny thinks that Carra and Gerrard should always start. He wasn't fit than as I remember. If he is a bench folder than I would consider bringing Agger or Enrique. I really like Agger's potential for points. Goal threat and could sneak some BP during the fixtures.

          This tripling means you won't join me on the Terry wagon. Or Baines in example

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          1. tosey
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            i looked at the liverpool forum and even tho carra's been fit for 3 weeks every liverpool fan went with skrtel/agger as their preferred pairing at the back

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            1. Damo.
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              +1 KD copyrighted the "No player is bigger than the club" quote, the facts show that Skrts and Agger are the best pick

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          2. Goose
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Absolutley no chance Agger would be dropped over Skrtel, no idea why u would think that? Agger plays every game when fit and is playing beastly at the moment. If Carra starts Skrtel will be the one benched 100%.

            I also think Carra's time might have come in terms of being number 1 on the team sheet, same even with Gerrard. Neither have been up to their best for the past couple of seasons. He cant really justify dropping Skrtel or Agger at the moment considering our defence record, in particular since those two have been at the back.

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            1. tosey
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              as a liverpool fan what do u think of the tactic goose?

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              1. Goose
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                I like the tactic in general, i dont see the problem of doubling or trebling for a side that keeps cleanies / doesnt conceed goals. Im not sure why people are so against it.

                I do think Lucas and now Spearing being out, might make an impact but it might be still worth the gamble. The problem for us at home has not been conceeding, but scoring. Theirs definetly some clean sheet potential in the next 5. Like i said, if Lucas was fit, id say go for it 100%.

                Its similar to the United situation with Vidic, its so hard to no how much these 2 big players out are gonna affect the teams.

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    2. charliec1903
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      3 Liverpool defenders ?

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      1. tosey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yep, he who dares wins n all that....

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    3. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Haha .. best of luck

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I assume this scuppers a Baines transfer?

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        1. tosey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          depends who i bring in for aguero gwk18

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    4. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Brave man. I shall be listening to 5 live over the next few weeks and wondering if your pulse rate shoots up every time there's a ".... there's been a goal at Anfield ...."

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      1. tosey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yeh thats the annoying part, remember doing it last year and they lost 1-0 at home to wolves. a couple of weeks later they kept 2 cleanies in a dbl week tho so all worked out! very nerve-wracking tho

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  26. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Looking forward for tonight scoutcast and hoping that DVD situation and Utd defense is covered.

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Utd game was last night so it won't be. They usually cover Tuesdays games, not Wednesdays, i think...

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    2. si
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure how the Scouts will know if VDV will play. Personally, I cannot see Defoe being dropped now. Not 'arrys style.

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      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I agree...No way Granny/mark will know more than us... :wink:....

        Si - you reckon it's worth doing Dvd-->Nani for a 4pt hit?

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      2. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Spurs fans think that he'll start and Defoe will play in crucial Europa League. And having in mind that Mark kept him and Granny already sold him, that will be wonderful chat. And we must pay attention to Mark's thinking of transfers. He recently transferred in Bale/Baines/Yak. Although the Yak punt was a birthday present 😉

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        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Granny's trsfrs last week netted him a cool 20+ !

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        2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          The crucial Europa league game that was played last week?

          I'm edging towards taking him out for Nani. Nani's ITC scores are actually pretty close to what he was getting on his good run earlier in the season, and VDV is going to be a major risk over Xmas. With Defoe on form its hard to see how Harry jusitfies dropping him.

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I hope it was recorded today as last night's events have really illuminated a few issues for us.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I really hope too. +10 on IT

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  27. alfast1c
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Team linked...

    What u all think of doing Walters + Suarez > Nani + Ba leaving me with +1m?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Walters has the form, plus SPURS Wolves Man City VILLA WIGAN Rovers

      Apart from the City game I can see him scoring in all the others.

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  28. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Decided i just cannot get rid of any of my outfield players considerin fixtures and potential this week.. got just 0.1 in the bank and got 2 free transfers.. considerin doin Krul(can see no clean sheets in the near future) to Cerny this week.. gives me 0.7 to do Pilkington and Sessegnon for Allen and Lennon/Yaya toure next week.. team linked.. but here is the team from next week anyway
    Vorm Cerny
    Baines Jones Richards Enrqiue McAuley
    Silva Bale Toure/Lennon Walters Allen
    Rvp Adebayor Sturridge

    will play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 most weeks..
    original plan was to downgrade Baines/Richards and get Mata/Nani in.. but my team looks pretty balanced without em..

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      stick or twist?

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      This week you are ok, I think, you could reassess in the near future. Maybe buy certain Vermallen in the back.

      P.S. How can you afford that. Great team.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        why would i need vermaelen when i have that defense? was worried about not having mata in midfield.. he's the only guy i want in my team and cannot afford without downgradin defense.. worth losing richards/Baines for him?

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  29. WOLVERiNES
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Thinking of getting Evans in this week after the vidic Injury.. Evans will definitely take Vidics place.. Will be my only United defensive cover and a total bargain at 4.4 ??? What do you guys think ??

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Please look back for one knee jerk article from Mark when Jevans was benched. One of the best articles here.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/11/05/the-knee-jerk-kept-guessing/

        Here it is. Wonder full really wonderful stuff in that article. Keep them coming Mark.

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    2. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Plenty of who are wondering what the attraction is and that they won't keep CS now Vidic is out.. others think for a United defender at 4.4 he's a good purchase.

      As I own Jones, I think I'll see how they play in their next games and maybe bring him in then for the Wigan and Rovers games.

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    3. Holy See
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      4.4 is good if he plays. & if Utd can keep clean sheets without Vidic. Both are debatable, but at his price you shouldn't've too much to lose.

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I'm going Smalling as there's the option of him playing CB and RB.

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