[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
10 December 2011 1889 comments
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We’ve a rare Saturday occasion this afternoon. For only the fourteenth time in the last five seasons we have seven kick-offs at the regulation time of three o’clock without any obtuse early or late fixtures. The Dugout Discussion is open for a short sharp two hour spell…

So let’s not dilly-dally and share all of the team news for the day…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Djourou, Arteta, Song, Walcott, Ramsey, Van Persie, Gervinho (Subs: Almunia, Miquel, Rosicky, Frimpong, Benayoun, Arshavin, Chamakh).

Everton XI: Howard, Heitinga, Hibbert, Neville, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka, Bilyaletdinov, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha (Subs: Mucha, Distin, Barkley, Stracqualursi, Gueye, McAleny, Vellios).

The Arsenal side picks itself with two right-backs and two left-backs out injured we see Johann Djourou and Thomas Vermaelen on the flanks. The visiting team pretty much picked itself with the injuries in David Moyes’ outfit.

United XI: De Gea, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Ferdinand, Nani, Jones, Valencia, Carrick, Rooney, Welbeck (Subs: Lindegaard, Fryers, Park, Gibson, Young, Giggs, Macheda).

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Zubar, Johnson, Ward, Berra, Henry, Jarvis, Edwards, O’Hara, Doyle, Fletcher. (Subs: De Vries, Stearman, Elokobi, Milijas, Hunt, Hammill, Ebanks-Blake).

Manchester United line-up pretty much as expected by our team news. Ashley Young’s injury the only figure of change with Valencia coming in. Mick McCarthy sticks to his word and names Stephen Fletcher in his line-up. Go figure.

Swansea XI: Vorm, N. Taylor, Caulker, Williams, Gower, Routledge, Sinclair, Britton, Richards, Lita, Moore (Subs: Tremmel, Bessone, Monk, Dyer, Agustien, Dobbie, Graham).

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Kelly, Riise, Hangeland, Senderos, Davies, Dempsey, Etuhu, Johnson, Ruiz, Dembele (Subs: Etheridge, Briggs, Hughes, Frei, B Riise, Gecov, Sa).

Danny Graham is only fit enough to return to the Swansea bench so bargain striker Leroy Lita looks to lead from the front once more. The talk of Bobby Zamora in this morning’s news was correct – the big man has been left out of the Fulham side.

Norwich XI: Ruddy, Tierney, Whitbread, Martin, Naughton, Crofts, Surman, Fox, Hoolahan, Holt, Morison (Subs: Rudd, Barnett, Johnson, Pilkington, Bennett, Wilbraham, Jackson).

Newcastle XI: Krul; Santon, Simpson, Perch, R. Taylor; Gutierrez, Cabaye, Gosling, Obertan; Ba, Sh Ameobi (Subs: Elliot, Ferguson, Ben Arfa, Smith, Lovenkrands, Best, Sa Ameobi).

Norwich decide to combat Newcastle’s new defence -notably absent of both first choice centre backs- with the double pronged attack of Steve Morison and Grant Holt. Hatem Ben Arfa drops out to the bench for the visitors.

West Brom XI: Foster; Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Shorey; Brunt, Mulumbu, Morrison, Thomas; Odemwingie, Long (Subs: Fulop, Dawson, Jones, Scharner, Dorrans, Tchoyi, Cox).

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Stam, Figueroa, Moses, Gomez, McCarthy, Jones, Diame, Sammon. (Subs: Pollitt, Gohouri, McArthur, Maloney, Watson, Di Santo, Rodallega).

Peter Odemwingie is back in the West Brom starting line-up as he looks to get back into the form of last season. Wigan put out a team of footballers – Moses included. Last season’s final gameweek saviour Hugo Rodallega is on the bench.

Bolton XI: Jaaskelainen, Cahill, Robinson, Knight, Boyata, Pratley, Eagles, Davies, Sanli, Klasnic, Davies (Subs: Bogdan, Steinsson, Petrov, Muamba, Ngog, O’Halloran, Kakuta).

Villa XI: Guzan, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Petrov, Herd, N’Zogbia, Albrighton, Bent, Agbonlahor (Subs: Marshall, Clark, Ireland, Bannan, Delfouneso, Heskey, Weimann).

After having his ban rescinded Gary Cahill “returns” to the Bolton line-up where Tuncay makes a rare appearance in the side. Brad Guzan and Marc Albrighton are two notable introductions for Aston Villa in this fixture.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Adam, Henderson, Downing, Maxi, Kuyt, Suarez (Subs: Doni, Coates, Kelly, Carragher, Shelvey, Bellamy, Carroll).

QPR XI: Cerny, Traore, Ferdinand, Gabbidon, Young, Wright-Phillips, Faurlin, Barton, Mackie, Smith, Bothroyd (Subs: Putnins, Orr, Hill, Connolly, Derry, Buzsaky, Campbell).

No place for Andy Carroll this time at Anfield as Stewart Downing and Dirk Kuyt return for Liverpool. Heidar Helguson is a surprise absentee for the visitors with DJ Campbell fit enough to return to the bench.

Then we’ll be done. For now, between the hours of three and five o’clock there will be plenty to discuss in the Dugout Discussion as the goals rattle in.

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  1. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    can prices start to rise straight away or will nani/rooney etc only start to rise tomorrow

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      3 am tonight. Jones, Ba, Krul look to be going up as it stands. Nani / Roon a long way from rising at this point. Probably safe till tomorrow, but check http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php later on.

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      1. Tim Canterbury
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        cheers mate

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  2. CFCTom
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Worst 12 point hit ever. 😉 Spent 12 points on transfers, would have got 18, got 3. LOL!! HAHAHA! But, seriously, 🙁

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      That is harsh!

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    2. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      That's pretty much all FAIL 🙂

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      this makes me happy

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  3. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Coming from someone who only has Jones as United cover, 53 points with 3 still to play 😀

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    1. ColeHole
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice call on Ba (c) last night.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Ha shame I didn't stick to my guns and went VP 😛

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          VP will get 3BPs so that will close the gap. I would not kick yourself about it.

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Ah no, sure an hour ago I was convinced I was done for this GW not having Nani or Roo. So I'm not going to complain about captain choices!

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      also nice choices with who to put on the bench this week - they all scored 0!!

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I believe Dyer scored a princely 1 😛

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  4. vwfiesta
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is Sinclair likely to continue being credited a goal for today's match? Or maybe an assist? I read it was an own goal...

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    1. Funkyav
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yeah i heard it was an OG too.

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  5. Scratch
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    I'm fed up with Chris Brunt and want some ideas.

    Silva, VDV, Larsson, Dyer, Brunt

    £3.7m in the bank.

    Options as I see them are
    1. Brunt -> Bale
    2. Naylor & Brunt -> Kelly & Mata (4 points)
    3. VDV & Brunt -> Bale & Nani (4 points, not overly keen on losing VDV)

    Any suggestions?

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    1. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      1) without a doubt. Why not sooner?

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      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Wigan at home

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    2. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      useless brunt or words to that effect

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  6. bmb100
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Yak, Bale and Adebeyor need to rip it up tomorrow

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bale, VDV, Silva and Sess for me.

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    2. LJJM Duckies
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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  7. Screaming Midget
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    4 point hit... 21 points back. Nice doing business with you.

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I took loads of hits last year and didn't pretty well out of them, not done many this year, think I am becoming a bit of pussy 🙁

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  8. Neddy55
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Didn't think Wolves would fold like that. Mick McCarthy adds nothing to the Premier League.

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      ah they always fold v the big teams away. they lost to liverpool, city, chelsea, and now united.

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  9. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    40 points with 4 to play, how's that?

    No United killed me, I'll have to get Nani for WIG and BLA.

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Depending on the 4, it sounds fairly poor based on other comments here

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      1. PFOR
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Silva, Sturridge, Walters and Ade.

        I just wasn't feeling the Nani love, and it's come back to haunt me.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      similar to me 39 with BAE, Walters, VDV, Ade and Silva to play.

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  10. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Do we still think United's defence is worth investing in?

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    1. Funkyav
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Jones is the best option

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I'd only get Evans/Smalling
        Jones too much for United defender minus Vidic IMO

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Much more attacking role now though. Apparently should have been on 3 assists today but they were all wasted.

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        2. MB10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          But Jones plays in midfield now. He was absolutely immense today.

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      brought Smalling today. that worked out well.

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  11. Lrf
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So, Ramsey and Brunt are useless, who do I drop first?

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    1. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Brunt.

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  12. Nicti
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Bale to Nani looks good now..

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    1. Lrf
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Dgw soon.

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  13. JoeySamSam
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What does BAPS stand for? Bonus something Points I presume?

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yes

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    2. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      It's not even anything. Just bonus points.

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  14. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    no vorm no nani no ba captaining rooney over RVP was the right move but i still got done

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  15. Jazz
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ba or Yak?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ba. SWA, WBA coming up.

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    2. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ba, great form and fixtures

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    3. Jazz
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks

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    4. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      each got 2 good homes now, i've got both

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  16. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    will nani steal rooney 3 bps?

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      "steal".

      Probably.

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    2. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Steal?

      Hes more likely I'd say.

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      1. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        good because I dont have roon

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    3. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney was awful bar the 2 goals

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  17. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    56 with silva, bale, walters and adebayor to come

    who would you rather transfer in.... rooney or nani?? i'm thinking nani

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani.

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  18. lord_lucan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmw8m7_evert10g4j9_latino
    Just incase you missed it .... RVP.

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Good lord that was brilliant.

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  19. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    OMG FERGUSON GOT 1 point today!

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He should go up .3 this week so 🙂

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      finally all the patience is paying off :

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    3. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      There has to be someone who captained him somewhere as a joke 🙂

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  20. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    getting destroyed in my ppc game by 2 players ba/nani

    well done jimnastics your through unless mata/studge score 5 between them 🙂

    ill be watching out for pigs flying or something crazy like moses getting goal/assist

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  21. CFCTom
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else laugh when, on Fifa, the commentator says "And the keeper comes with a punch", no? Just me? :/

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  22. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Do people think they'll take away the goal from Sinclair? I heard it was a definite OG.

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    1. LJJM Duckies
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yep

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  23. Back to Back Ballacks
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    AGUEROLICIOUS,
    68 with Walters, Brown, Bendtner and Mata to play. Goin smokin guns,,,Happydays,,,how'd u get on?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice play on Nani. Well done. Vorm, Enrique, Verm, Jones and RVP for 38. Larsson, Silva, Bale, Sturridge, Aguero and Shawcross(sub) to go

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  24. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ok so I might not have done as well as you guys today, but just you wait for the carnage of Sess Silva Ade Bale VDV and Sturridge tomorrow 😀

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I reckon most people still have a lot if not all of those players to play too though.

      I have VDV, Ade and Silva. As well as Walters and Walker.

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Just your mids ripping up please.

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  25. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just saw that Shane Ferguson got his first point of the season. First Victor scores and now this. Must be a fll moon tonight 😀

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      The FPL world has tilted on its axis. Next thing Bosingwa will be playing on Monday, and Bendy will score a hattrick tomorrow.

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    2. LJJM Duckies
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      There was a lunar eclipse and subsquent red moon in Aus tonight, so maybe....

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    3. LJJM Duckies
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      There was a lunar eclipse and subsequent red moon in Australia tonight, so maybe....

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  26. moment
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just checked. Vorm got a penalty save in a 0-0 in GW2. Did not get bonus.

    So anyone expecting him to get bonus in a 2-0 is wildly optimistic. Stupid system as the game was finely poised at 1-0 at the time.

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bonus points don't come out same day

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      1. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That's not my point. It's that the system appears not to value penalty saves very much, so I very much doubt Vorm will get any bonus points when they are issued.

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah he's unlikely to get bonus from the penalty save itself. But for 6 saves - he should.

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      1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        Just realized he had 6 saves. Wonderful!!!

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Just love Vorm.... #1 in FPL

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    3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think bonus point system have applied some changes in its algorithm since then. I will keep hoping for it..

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  27. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    48 with Walters, VDV, Silva, Ade, Sess + BP's to come.

    can't complain really.

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  28. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    43 with 5 to play ...
    Bonus point prediction for

    RVP
    Suarez
    Vermaelen
    Vorm

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    1. moment
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      3, 3, 0, 0

      [Vorm didn't get BAPS for a penalty save in a 0-0 in GW2. Won't get them now]

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    2. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      3,3,2,2

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  29. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    40 points with front 5 to play (Bale, VDV, Silva, Sturridge, Adebayor). Average this week I reckon?

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  30. Neddy55
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suarez gone for me. Good player. No support. Evil temper.

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He still scored.

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