[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
10 December 2011 1889 comments
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We’ve a rare Saturday occasion this afternoon. For only the fourteenth time in the last five seasons we have seven kick-offs at the regulation time of three o’clock without any obtuse early or late fixtures. The Dugout Discussion is open for a short sharp two hour spell…

So let’s not dilly-dally and share all of the team news for the day…

Arsenal XI: Szczesny, Vermaelen, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Djourou, Arteta, Song, Walcott, Ramsey, Van Persie, Gervinho (Subs: Almunia, Miquel, Rosicky, Frimpong, Benayoun, Arshavin, Chamakh).

Everton XI: Howard, Heitinga, Hibbert, Neville, Coleman, Baines, Jagielka, Bilyaletdinov, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha (Subs: Mucha, Distin, Barkley, Stracqualursi, Gueye, McAleny, Vellios).

The Arsenal side picks itself with two right-backs and two left-backs out injured we see Johann Djourou and Thomas Vermaelen on the flanks. The visiting team pretty much picked itself with the injuries in David Moyes’ outfit.

United XI: De Gea, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Ferdinand, Nani, Jones, Valencia, Carrick, Rooney, Welbeck (Subs: Lindegaard, Fryers, Park, Gibson, Young, Giggs, Macheda).

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Zubar, Johnson, Ward, Berra, Henry, Jarvis, Edwards, O’Hara, Doyle, Fletcher. (Subs: De Vries, Stearman, Elokobi, Milijas, Hunt, Hammill, Ebanks-Blake).

Manchester United line-up pretty much as expected by our team news. Ashley Young’s injury the only figure of change with Valencia coming in. Mick McCarthy sticks to his word and names Stephen Fletcher in his line-up. Go figure.

Swansea XI: Vorm, N. Taylor, Caulker, Williams, Gower, Routledge, Sinclair, Britton, Richards, Lita, Moore (Subs: Tremmel, Bessone, Monk, Dyer, Agustien, Dobbie, Graham).

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Kelly, Riise, Hangeland, Senderos, Davies, Dempsey, Etuhu, Johnson, Ruiz, Dembele (Subs: Etheridge, Briggs, Hughes, Frei, B Riise, Gecov, Sa).

Danny Graham is only fit enough to return to the Swansea bench so bargain striker Leroy Lita looks to lead from the front once more. The talk of Bobby Zamora in this morning’s news was correct – the big man has been left out of the Fulham side.

Norwich XI: Ruddy, Tierney, Whitbread, Martin, Naughton, Crofts, Surman, Fox, Hoolahan, Holt, Morison (Subs: Rudd, Barnett, Johnson, Pilkington, Bennett, Wilbraham, Jackson).

Newcastle XI: Krul; Santon, Simpson, Perch, R. Taylor; Gutierrez, Cabaye, Gosling, Obertan; Ba, Sh Ameobi (Subs: Elliot, Ferguson, Ben Arfa, Smith, Lovenkrands, Best, Sa Ameobi).

Norwich decide to combat Newcastle’s new defence -notably absent of both first choice centre backs- with the double pronged attack of Steve Morison and Grant Holt. Hatem Ben Arfa drops out to the bench for the visitors.

West Brom XI: Foster; Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Shorey; Brunt, Mulumbu, Morrison, Thomas; Odemwingie, Long (Subs: Fulop, Dawson, Jones, Scharner, Dorrans, Tchoyi, Cox).

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Stam, Figueroa, Moses, Gomez, McCarthy, Jones, Diame, Sammon. (Subs: Pollitt, Gohouri, McArthur, Maloney, Watson, Di Santo, Rodallega).

Peter Odemwingie is back in the West Brom starting line-up as he looks to get back into the form of last season. Wigan put out a team of footballers – Moses included. Last season’s final gameweek saviour Hugo Rodallega is on the bench.

Bolton XI: Jaaskelainen, Cahill, Robinson, Knight, Boyata, Pratley, Eagles, Davies, Sanli, Klasnic, Davies (Subs: Bogdan, Steinsson, Petrov, Muamba, Ngog, O’Halloran, Kakuta).

Villa XI: Guzan, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, Petrov, Herd, N’Zogbia, Albrighton, Bent, Agbonlahor (Subs: Marshall, Clark, Ireland, Bannan, Delfouneso, Heskey, Weimann).

After having his ban rescinded Gary Cahill “returns” to the Bolton line-up where Tuncay makes a rare appearance in the side. Brad Guzan and Marc Albrighton are two notable introductions for Aston Villa in this fixture.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Adam, Henderson, Downing, Maxi, Kuyt, Suarez (Subs: Doni, Coates, Kelly, Carragher, Shelvey, Bellamy, Carroll).

QPR XI: Cerny, Traore, Ferdinand, Gabbidon, Young, Wright-Phillips, Faurlin, Barton, Mackie, Smith, Bothroyd (Subs: Putnins, Orr, Hill, Connolly, Derry, Buzsaky, Campbell).

No place for Andy Carroll this time at Anfield as Stewart Downing and Dirk Kuyt return for Liverpool. Heidar Helguson is a surprise absentee for the visitors with DJ Campbell fit enough to return to the bench.

Then we’ll be done. For now, between the hours of three and five o’clock there will be plenty to discuss in the Dugout Discussion as the goals rattle in.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

  1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I sold Nani for Mata in GW 13 after his poor form of only 1 assist in 7 weeks.

    Then BANG, he does 2 goals and 2 assists in 2 games.

    Its a cruel game sometimes.

    Should have done VDV > Mata instead.

    Anyone else get rid of Nani recently?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      That Granville fella kept him...maybe you should of listened to him on the podcasts?

      I don't have Nani myself no plans to get him in my team I am happy enough with my midfield.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        I love this comment " that g g Granville fella"

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    2. Laserface
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      I did .. Nani to Bale ... Worked well last week ,, lets see what Bale can pull off this week

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  2. Fancy Feet
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    Should I do Adebayor to Ba and Walcott to Nani?

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    1. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
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      walcott to Nani yes. the other one is touch & go, ade has been doing well

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    2. Kuqi Monster
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      ade had a DGW coming up - I'd keep

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  3. Laserface
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    What do you reckon will be the avge score tonite ??
    I'm thinking 35

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    1. LJJM Duckies
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      I hope it is, 'cause that is what I got

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  4. Forest4Life
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    My sis hasnt touched team since 16th Oct http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/253969/event-history/15/

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    1. smuggs
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      every dog has its sorry. 1.9m maybe 1.2m by tomorrow wont lost sleep

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    2. udit
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      her defenders say it all.

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      1. Cyril Figgis
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        To be fair I played Raylor and Simpson this week... And last week. Both have gotten 0 two weeks running...

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    3. Locarno
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      Is she fit, though? 🙂

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      1. Forest4Life
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        Nope

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  5. smuggs
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    not bad took a 4point hit for evans and welbeck returned with net 0 but simpson and bendtner would of played so im only going to nickos points down and over the next 5 games i think welbeck and evans will play 2 or 3 and get ok returns.
    gutted thou 28 points with 4 to play and when sinclair loses his 5 im going to be even worst. i need vdv to rekindle some magic with a goal.

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  6. DV8R
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    is the Sinclair goal likely to be taken away from him?

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    1. mr. inconspicuous
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      hopeully

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    2. Cheggers
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      He'll only lose 2pts. Dont worry about it

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        And potential bonus points...

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        1. Mull
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          How have you done Dunny.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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            Happy enough. 64 with Silva, Bale and Sturridge to play Sunday/Monday

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    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      ah crap forgot about that will make me a little more worried about going into the next round of the PP Cup.
      I now have to worry about that, plus Mata, Yakubu, VDV and Richards. Hopefully, none of them go mad.

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  7. mr. inconspicuous
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    bye bye to Ramsey, I can't wait to lose him this week, who are people getting in for him? I have 6.6 to spend.

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    1. SC not pearls before swine
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      I'm looking at O'Hara or Jarvis. Or maybe a Newcastle midfielder, but I'm not sure which one now that Ben Arfa has lost his place...

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    2. Lrf
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      Same here. Got 7.5 to spend, thinking about Lennon with the dgw coming up.

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      1. mr. inconspicuous
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        What about Everton players?

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  8. Jax
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    2 transfers this week. Ba/Nani in, Lampard/Bendtner out. 2 goals each. LOVELY STUFF.

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    1. moment
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Till Fat Frank scores 6 and Bendy 10 tomorrow.

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  9. RedNev
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    Took an 8 point hit but thankfully Ba,Nani and Vorm saved my GW. And of course captain RVP with his customary 3 Bps :p

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  10. TST4N
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    vorm, moses, enrique, sinclair, roonpig and rvp(c) with silva, vdv, sturridge, brown and walker to play. needed it this week considering wolves got bashed (again)

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  11. Bsal
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    70 pts already with bale adebayor bae n bendtner still to play

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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      100 point GW on the cards for you

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    2. Jax
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      spurs will concede, can't see them doing much. 1-1 maybe. defoe to score.

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  12. Jax
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    man city v arsenal next week. anyone think RVP will get anything?

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Probably get a goal.

      I'll be captaining Ba, Adebayor or VDV.

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      1. Waldaz
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        +2

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Probably, won't be captaining him though

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      he will get arsenal's solitary goal

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    4. GullyOne
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      Chelsea vs Arsenal ... Hattrick RVP .. 🙁

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  13. Oldman Unathletic
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    aup lads, anyone know what happened to long's assist in the west brom game? (didn't get to see the match)

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    1. Jax
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      he didn't get an assist. odemwingie did.

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      1. Jax
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        Foul by Gary Caldwell (Wigan) on Peter Odemwingie (West Brom). Free kick scored by Steven Reid (West Brom) right-footed (top-left of goal) from left channel (30 yards).West Brom 1-0 Wigan. Assist by Peter Odemwingie (West Brom) from left channel.

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
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      thanks mate

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  14. Le Bluff
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    A few points:

    1. Michel Vorm - WHAT A HERO!
    2. Holy MOSES scored?!
    3. Nani, get in my team!
    4. Ramsey, get out.

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    1. RedNev
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      Moses can feck off the little cretin lol

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  15. Lrf
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    Rooney(c) next week? He usually score in bursts. Hard to not captain RvP who can score against anyone, but City away is a hard game, and United got QPR.

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  16. Dan
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Absolutely smashed it. 🙂

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/583/event-history/15/

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    1. Mull
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Shame you didn't have Vorm

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    2. Forest4Life
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Not really. My sis who hasnt touched team in 7 weeks did better http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/253969/event-history/15/

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    3. Jax
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      i got 68 so far with 3 to play

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  17. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
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    thinking of bringing in valencia good idea or not?? cant afford nani or rooney so want some utd coverage

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    1. Jax
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      no don't he's a rotation risk

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  18. Tim Canterbury
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    how does the selling price of a player work? i noticed it lags behind the purchase price but how does it work?

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    1. Indalo
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      example: if you buy a player at 8.0 and in a few weeks he rises to 8.4, then you're selling price will be 8.2, hope I helped 🙂

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      1. Tim Canterbury
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        cheers. so is it always 50% of the rise because if a player stops rising the purchase price catches up

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      your name would suggest you should know this

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      1. Tim Canterbury
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        true but its my first season

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  19. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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    I'm afraid average point of this week will be quite high as lots of non-playing teams will (c) Rooney and also have Nani in their team.. Red arrow could be.. 🙁

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  20. v12w12
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Want Ba but will have to do hit to get him in as already have 3 Newcastle players. Worth the hit? Also, would you get rid of Ade or Sturridge for him? I'm thinking Sturridge. Cheers

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    1. Jax
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      bit late on the ol' ba-ndwagon eh?

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  21. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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    All aboard the moses-mobile? Perfect 5th mid for the christmas rotation season!

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    1. RedNev
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      No thanks.

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    2. Hate that rotation
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      This actually is good advice. Dyer is looking like a 0 pointer now so buying cheaper moses is good business.

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    3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
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      Price wise, he could get back in my team in place of Dyer. But his fixture say "no".

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      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
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        Remember though, he's guaranteed minutes & is slightly oop as an attacking midfielder. And at 4.6 is dirt cheap. He may even make a decent 4th mid to facilitate crowbarring in RVP/Rooney/VDV/Aguero...

        Ill be swapping dyer for him asap

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  22. Hate that rotation
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Gutted with no Utd CS. doubled up on defense but hopefully the xmas period will provide CSs. How does s. fletcher win these headers?

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    1. Cruicky
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Because Evra doesn't close down the ball and Evans can't head the ball...

      😉

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  23. ImTheDude
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    Didn't watch the game, will Ba get any bonus?

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    1. Tim Canterbury
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      1 maybe 2

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    2. Le Bluff
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      He bloody better with 2 goals!

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  24. Cruicky
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Which transfer is better?:

    Brunt or Drenthe to O'Hara?
    Tierney to Ward?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      first

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  25. applebonkers
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    demba ba hit the bar (love saying that) as well today.
    17 goals with Ba on the pitch, he's scored 11 of them and assisted 3. hard to argue with that monopoly

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    1. Mull
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      They'll have to attack more also as they can't rely on Perch and Simpson at centre back.

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    2. andy85wsm
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      It's damn good scoring. Gutted he hit the bar and didn't get the hat trick!

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    3. Tim Canterbury
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      hit the bar? damn shot off target them. maybe only 1 bp :s

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      1. applebonkers
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        very wasteful

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  26. Hostage
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    51 points (after a 4 point deduction) with Shawcross, Silva, Sturridge and Nani to come. For once, a plan came together!

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    1. Sun Jihai
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      Nani to come?

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      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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        Think he means after boner (points) 🙂

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  27. smuggs
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    i am still going to keep ramsey he just has to score soon and as sod law goes it will no doubt be against the leaders

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  28. OPTA FPL
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    so, who to replace Dyer now? he lost his place in Xmas, very dangerous

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      moses. no seriosly moses. guaranteed 2 pointer minimum.

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    1. Freshy
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      Suarez is more of a Zola

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      1. CFCTom
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        Hahahahaha! No he isn't. Zola is one million times the player Suarez is, still.

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        1. AP
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          You were filling your Aldi budget nappies with sh*t when Zola was playing, how on earth would you know.

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          1. Cheggers
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            Suarez is miles better than Zola
            Zola played for Chelsea when they were sh1t which should be a bit of a giveaway

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            1. Simon March
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              I don't know if this is meant to be a joke but anyone who thinks that Suarez should even be mentioned in the same breath as Zola must be really new to football.

              Zola is one of the top 5 players ever to play in the PL. He was also a perfect role model who was liked and respected even by opposing fans - things Suarez can only dream of being.

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              1. Henry Hill
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                What would a decent bloke like Zola think of Chelsea now, a team who's manager thinks its acceptable for his captain to call an opposing player a f ucking black c unt

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                1. Simon March
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                  He'd probably wait until it's been proven that he 'called' him it before passing judgement. You just wrote the same words. Does that make you a racist? Or am I taking that out of context? Think about it.

                  Look, i'm not getting into an argument on the internet about stupid things like this.

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                  1. CFCTom
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                    You may find logic wasted on this lot.

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          2. CFCTom
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            Wait, and this one can stay!!? HA! Pathetic, and useless. It's only because you all support Manure anyway. 😀

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