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11 December 2011 2540 comments
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With no televised (English) top-flight game yesterday, Sunday’s double-header has us eagerly anticipating some live Premier League action. The Dugout Discussion opens for the second day of Gameweek 15, with a relegation scrap and a game between two sides aiming for Europe.

We start at the Stadium of Light as Martin O’Neill takes over the reigns as Sunderland manager. His first assignment is against a Blackburn side whose manager, in total contrast, is hanging onto his job for dear life. Having said that, Steve Kean has a win against Swansea last week to build on. Here are the all-important team sheets…

Sunderland XI: Westwood, O’Shea, Bardsley, Brown, Bramble, Richardson, Larsson, Colback, Vaughan, Sessegnon, Wickham.

Blackburn XI: Robinson, Salgado, Samba, Dann, Givet, Formica, Dunn, Lowe, Pederson, Vuckevic, Yakubu.

Sunderland striker Niklas Bendtner is kept out with a groin injury, and in his place Connor Wickham gets his first league start since October. The visitors are also without a key striker, as Junior Hoilett picked up a training ground hamstring injury that sees him miss out.

Following that it’s over to the Britannia Stadium where Stoke City host Tottenham Hotspur. Stoke’s ambition this season will be to match last season’s success of reaching the Europa League, whereas the visitor’s will have their sights set on returning to Europe’s premier competition after a year out. That’ll then just leave Monday night’s grand finale at Stamford Bridge to bring the gameweek to a close.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom is open for all today’s action.

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  1. MrJefferson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    wonder if anyone still had moses the ledgend

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    1. MrJefferson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      *legend

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      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I did. Although, I think he needs a couple more of those games like yesterday to pay back the money/points I've lost because of him! 😉

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        1. MrJefferson
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          might get him back in!!:)

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        2. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Hey Super-Hans, tight at the top of h2h5

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          1. Back to Back Ballacks
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Hey Granville,,FYI - i switched to google chrome yesterday and the site runs WAY WAY WAY better on it. Was on int-explorer b4 and it was super pants. Dont know if anyone else was having probs but the ticker now only takes about 3 secs to load = sweet.

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            1. Pratik
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              why would anyone ever use internet explorer??????? it sucks

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    2. Canadian Football
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I need Silva or Sturidge to wake of with a massive hangover tomorrow. He is my first sub.

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  2. Bazman returns
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So DGW in a couple of weeks. Which DGWers will be the best bet got VDV and Ade so far. Over the next couple of weeks will probably get Bale/Baines not sure who else is worth getting.

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    1. MrJefferson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      im planing to have ade,vdv,bale,baines and mabey another eve player not sure, have ade and bale ATM

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      The 4 you said, and possibly Drenthe/Howard/Jagielka but you can do that the

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  3. Super-Hans
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I'm thinking of using my two free transfers like this; Ramsey and Suarez out, Mata and Yakubu in. But would this be stupid considering I have two defenders (Wilkinson and Turner) who are not regular starters for their teams?

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ramsey needs to go anyway, suarez doesnt have to go yet, would get turner out if it was me...

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      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Suarez is only going if he gets suspended.
        Deadline for his hearing is tomorrow at 4pm....

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    2. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      how about steven Fletcher instead of yakubu? Or Morison?

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      1. Super-Hans
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        might consider it, but I'm not too confident going into the gw with only McAuley, Enrique and Jones. Although all of them have good fixtures, there could be some rotation....

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  4. Davemc23
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ok folks, Brown > Baines a good move? Have exactly the right amount in the bank to do it

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    1. Super-Hans
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Tomorrow Baines will be 0.1 cheaper....

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        he's not gonna fall tonight

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    2. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Baines seems expensive to me. How about Jagielka instead?

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      1. myah1997
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Hibbert cheapest option

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    3. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Be pragmatic. I love Baines, I really do.

      However, simply put they don't do cleanies and they have no strikers to finish his sublime crosses.

      Keep Brown and focus on getting your Matas and Nanis of this world.

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    4. Guinney
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Baines is a risky buy at that price. Alot of defenders at decent prices out there. Same can't be said for midfielders, were there is not many bargains

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  5. Vpan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    For next GW (already having Adebayor):

    a) Keep VDV and bring Nani and Jagielka for -4
    or
    b) drop VDV and bring Nani and Mata (or Baines) for -4

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  6. Forest4Life
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Me 5 him Kompany Aguero and Silva. 3-0 Chelsea win please with Kompany off

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    1. 1NAM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      What are you on about?

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    2. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Youve lost, sorry

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    3. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You've got no chance imo.

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    4. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Assuming BPs are equal:

      Kompany may get only 1 for conceding 2 goals but Aguero and Silva will get at least 4pts.

      Hope for yellow cards, but I see a tie at best for you

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  7. Epsom Jim
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Could I drag people away from xfactor for a second to pose this little conundrum?

    Vorm
    Jones, walker, enrique
    Silva, mata, Ramsay, vdv, Moses
    RVP, ba, yakubu
    Krul, Taylor (swa), Simpson

    Im loathe to get rid of vdv, as I think he's still got value. Nani seems hard to avoid, though. Thinking either vdv to him, or what about Jones -> Jagielka and Ramsay -> Nani? I have two free transfers...

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Like the two transfer 1. Out Rammsey. P.S. Not watching X- Factor watching Criminal minds

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      1. Davemc23
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        You never have to drag me away from that garbage, the amount of people getting rid of VDV makes me want to keep him

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        1. Epsom Jim
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          My thought exactly. Particularly with Dgw on the way. Jags it is, then!

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      2. super zlatan
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Vdv and Ramsey out, nani and Walters in?

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Surprised the girls whom it.

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        *won it. I got rid of vdv last week. I'd just do vdv out nani in then get vdv back for double gameweek. VDV won't play enough in the hectic Xmas schedule anyway.

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  8. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    2 random questions:

    1. Will Gutierrez ever have a break through season FPL wise?
    2. Was Graham Alexander a bargain or a Seamus Coleman burden?

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    1. Super-Hans
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      1. No. He will never be anything more than a half-decent player who will be amongst the best players in the mid-table teams.
      2. With his penalties and his OOP, Graham Alexander was a bargain! 😉

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Hello!

      1. No, but he's a good player
      2. Yes, he was a bargain. Started out at 5 or 5.5 and got some great score, including a monster score of 21 i think

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        started at 4.5

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    3. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      1 Nope just consistent 2/3 pointer with an 6-8 pointer now and then. 2 Both.

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    4. Lewis - Sky Pod
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      1. Probably not, far too inconsistent. Brilliant team player but doesn’t score or assist enough to be effective FPL wise. He’s scored 15 goals in 313 career league games. Says it all really.

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    5. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      cheers everyone, forever curious

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  9. Fancy Feet
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So this myth that Nani can only perform on the right was just a story to scare little children right?

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    1. No1Joker
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Along with the "he can't play with Rooney" that I've seen a few times

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      1. Davemc23
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I was at OT for the newcastle game when young was on the left. I said to a good few people if nani was there and got even half the amount of ball young got we would have won the game. Fergie must've heard me 🙂

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  10. No1Joker
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Really happy with my team right now:

    Vorm Krul
    Baines Williams Enrique Raylor DeLaet
    Walter Nani Silva VDV Moses
    Ba Studge RVP

    After DGW Baines should fund Walters > Mata
    Gonna wait til the wild card to re-jig the def. I don't think Newcastle at the back will be returning the CS

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  11. Lewis - Sky Pod
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    1. Probably not, far too inconsistent. Brilliant team player but doesn't score or assist enough to be effective FPL wise. He's scored 15 goals in 313 career league games. Says it all really.

    2. Meh

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    1. Lewis - Sky Pod
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      fail.

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  12. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Presenting the worst points score in England -2934.

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2393238/event-history/15/

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      What's the point of that ?

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    2. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      That guy is so so sad!

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    3. No1Joker
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Even his team value isn't all that great.
      It's a shame they don't have that league table any more

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    4. MrJefferson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      he has a nice transfer history

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      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        It's basically a who's who of the FPL. 😉

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    5. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      The weirdest thing is, he's not even last...

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    6. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yet he still tries to pick a decent captain.

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  13. DVassell
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    BAE > Smalling, good move?

    I'm pretty happy with my team overall for next week, 4 players to play this GW with 53+bonus (hopefully richards will recover, what's the chances?)

    This will give me:

    _________________Krul___________________

    Smalling________Simpson___________Richards

    Mata_____Bale____________Nani_______Silva

    Adebayor_________RVP____________Sturridge

    Subs____Krul___Dyer___Wilkinson___Simpson

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    1. DVassell
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      sorry vorm is my second goalie

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      1. DVassell
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        and naylor is my sub def instead of simpson

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    2. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Very nice team

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    3. Guinney
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      That midfield is probably the best you can have at the moment.
      Good strikers aswell. Not so sure on the BAE Smalling move though. Smalling is a rotation risk, whereas BAE isn't.
      Would start Naylor ahead of Simpson at the moment to.

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  14. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Any reasons that we've found out since the game as to why VDV didn't take the penalty? Seemed very strange considering Adebayor missed the last one (even though he followed up).

    Maybe VDV is going to be rotated so much they had to change the pen taker 😉

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  15. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    *New post*

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  16. Scroobius Mac
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    People are considering taking out RVP?! Seriously?! Was his lowly one goal not enough for you or can you not cope with one tough fixture?

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    1. zyad947
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      RVP to Torres! Satisfaction guaranteed! :p

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  17. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Baines fallin tonight? thinking baines to Shotton/Gabbidon and Sess to Nani.. dont mind a rise from nani.. Baines just does'nt seem the value he was last year

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  18. reekster
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I'm struggling with the prevailing logic of having three attacking Spurs players (usually Ade, VDV and Bale) and stocking up on defensive Evertonians (Howard, Jagielka and Baines) for the double-gameweek.
    Am I being naive?

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    1. DVassell
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      does the DGW fall in line with the WC period? if so it may be worthwhile, but otherwise it would damage your team...3 of any player from each team generally dampens your chances of getting good distribution of points

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nope makes sense to me

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  19. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I was at me nan's house having tea earlier when I started looking through their collection of items you can store hot beverages in.

    Reminded me of FFS straight away*

    http://twitpic.com/7s1myn

    *some people may have no idea what this is about

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Sigh, don't bring this up again.. FFS's darkest hour!

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  20. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    hhmmm...I don't want to catch "Give him one more game - itis" regarding VDV. I had that sickness last year with Drogba and Malouda around this time of the season.

    I thought VDV looked very leggy today and there's every chance Harry will play Defoe VS Sunderland and maybe bring VDV back in for the Chelsea match. Plus the no pens/ corners make him look bad value all of a sudden. Plus the weekly heartache about his bloody hamstrings. Plus a busy Christmas schedule a comin'......he' out for me I think....maybe

    Opinions please on the options ;

    (a) VDV to Mata

    (b) VDV to Bale and Long to Sturridge (4 pts)

    (c) Long to Ba and Walters to 5.1m mid (4 pts)

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      If he had taken the penalty today I'd want to keep him. But VDV to Mata looks the obvious choice right now.

      I do really like Spurs fixtures though and I don't have Bale...

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    2. DVassell
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i've had that with suarez, catch the wave: b) is by far your best option esp with next GW in mind

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I have a similar dilema this week, do I give VdV one more game and get him out before Chelsea and replace Brunt with Nani or do I take him out for Nani this week and give Brunt one more week. My issue with both is once I have Nani who do I replace VdV with, to me it's one of 3, Theo, Adam or Mata (but then is Mata and Studge too much Chelsea?)

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for the replies lads

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      2. Bazman returns
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Just remember DGW coming up for VDV.

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  21. Dave Bauer
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just asking the same question again, as I'm waiting for an answer that makes my mind up - Jarvis or O'Hara?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Well Jarvis got his first assist since GW2 yesterday and looked impressive, whilst O'Hara move back to a deeper position has blunted him somewhat, I'd be tempted to go for Jarvis, if he's getting back to form he could be a major player.

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    2. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I've got the same problem. I'm liking Jarvis.

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    3. Dave1966
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Neither Wolves are rubbish

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    4. Indalo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      O'Hara has been more consistent than Jarvis recently

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  22. Dave1966
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hi guys what game week will the ACON start.

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  23. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hi, can i please have some advice on how ti improve this team:

    Vorm, Given
    Kompany, Shawcross, J. Enrique, Brown, Simpson
    Bale, Silva, Eagles, Sinclair, Drenthe
    RVP, Ba, Adebayor.

    3.6 million in bank and one free transfer.

    Cheers

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    1. Indalo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      transfer either eagles, sinclair or drenthe to nani.

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      1. Guinney
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Keep Sinclair. Can't do that move, would need more cash.
        If you don't mind taking a 4point hit, move out Given for Ruddy, then Drenthe for Nani.

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  24. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I didn't see the match but where were the spurs?! How was Bale and VDV?

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    1. Dave1966
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      VDV was playing to deep most of the game and was pretty much anonymous. Bale played ok but was frustrated by good defending from Stoke although he did get some good crosses in.

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  25. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    transfer either eagles, sinclair or drenthe to nani

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    1. Indalo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      reply fail to CAG6117

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  26. GullyOne
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What's everyone doing with VDV?

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Shoot him

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    2. Dave1966
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping for now with him playing at home to Sunderland next.

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  27. Kostja
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    VDV to Mata, Nani or Adam.
    Things to consider- I already have Rooney and Evans- but no Chelsea or Liverpool cover besides Enrique.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Any thoughts?

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  28. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I can do VDV -> Nani straight swap tonight before the price rise/drop

    So should I do it now or keep VDV for one more week?

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  29. Kitchen Sink
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Okay, today was Adebayors 150th Premier League appearance. Maybe that was why he took the penalty? Just throwing it out there.

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  30. ateam
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hey all.

    Trying to get man u attacking covers!!
    In a fix. Any suggestion?

    De gea/vorm
    Kompany bae ntaylor Evans baines
    Allen bjohnson vdv silva Walters
    Rvp ba ade

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