[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
22 December 2011 1703 comments
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Gameweek 17 concludes tonight at White Hart Lane, as third in the league Tottenham Hotspurs play host to fourth placed Chelsea. For the last time before Christmas and for the third night running, the Dugout Discussion is here. The team news for the game is in, and is as follows…

Spurs XI: Friedel, Walker, Gallas, King, Assou-Ekotto, Modric, Parker, Sandro, Bale, Van der Vaart, Adebayor.

Chelsea XI: Cech, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole, Ramires, Mikel, Meireles, Sturridge, Drogba, Mata.

The home side have the fortune of being able to call upon the services of the injury-plagued Ledley King and Gareth Bale, who was rated as “very doubtful” by manager Harry Redknapp earlier this week. Emmanuel Adebayor also shakes off a slight foot injury to start upfront with Rafael Van der Vaart.

As the visitors, Andre Villas-Boas makes the bold (according to some media outlets) decision to name Frank Lampard and Fernando Torres amongst the Chelsea substitutes. Elsewhere, he’s boosted by the availability of the Brazilian Ramires, who returns to the side after missing the weekend’s game at Wigan.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom will be open for the entirety of tonight’s game, and can be accessed right here.

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  1. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Just done Jones/Ward/VDV to Verm/Shotton/Nani.

    Yes, it's a knee-jerk, but it's Christmas.

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    1. Says
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      Can't believe anyone is getting rid of Jones before there's a diagnosis.

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      1. Leysh
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        +1

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      2. Royal5
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        +2

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      3. Lucky_2010
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        agree, better wait for jones news ......

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    2. 4vets
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      2 out of 3 ain't bad 😉

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        I have Evans, so it's not that big a deal either way.

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  2. Sprofa
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Team for rd 18;

    Vorm
    BAE – Simpson – Baines
    Larsson – Walters – Nani – Bale
    Ba – Sturridge – RVP (c)

    Krul – Jones* Moses Caulker

    (a) Jones>Evans
    or
    (b) Jones>Evans
    Moses>Drenthe
    or
    (c) Jones>Evans
    Walters/Larsson>Cahill
    or
    (d) Jones>Evans
    Moses>Osman
    or
    (e) No Trades

    I am thinking if I get Drenthe in now he wont be played this week anyway and that would be a waste of 4 points, I can afford to wait one more week to get Evans in too, and have 2 trades next week

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  3. Bsal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    75 with bps to come ... good week!

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      66 pre baps with no hit. Satisfied, but sick of getting average scores! I want 80+ points sometime soon!

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    2. Lucky_2010
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      nice score indeed .......

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  4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Too much, too old, too late. 😉 Tired now - tomorrow, peeps! 😀

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    1. 4vets
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      Sleep well, Doos.

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  5. Acquafresca
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    For this weekend:

    Vorm
    Mertesacker Kompany Simpson
    Nani Silva Walters VDV
    RVP Ba Sturridge

    Thoughts? Captain RVP or Nani?

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    1. Hate that rotation
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      captain RVP

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    GENTLEMEN, Please some Help

    A) Larsson, BAE, Naylor

    OR

    B) Drenthe, Richards, Caulker

    OR

    C) Drenthe, Walker, Brown

    * #

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      B. With Kompany who will get more mins

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  7. Fulgencio Obelmejias
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    lost on last page .
    thinking of bringing in lindegard to play every week(obviously he wont) with al habsi, who's scoring well despite a lack of c/sheets.
    also have jones and dyer +2 freebies.
    which do you think more important?

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    1. McTown
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      Would rather have vorm + lindegard...

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      1. Leysh
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        Why would you want Lindegaard? He will play very little.

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        1. McTown
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          Just play him the whole time. 4.4 is great for man utd keeper. Then when he doesnt play you have super vorm anyway. Cant lose!

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          1. Fulgencio Obelmejias
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            thats what i thought , but what about jones/dyer dillema?

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            1. Nibbsy
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              Wait for news on Jones, is there any rush to make the Lindegaard transfer?

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  8. McTown
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    Vorm (Howard)

    Jones, Enrique, Kompany (Simpson, Shotton)

    Silva, Nani, Bale, Walters (Gower)

    RVP, Adebayor, Ba

    0.3 spare, 1 ft

    Any ideas? could change jones for def up to 6.8...

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  9. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    well I was gonna draft Rooney in for no hit. But now thinking Nani could grab some goals for me, what I need is the assist machine that is Tony V

    How does this look for no hit

    VdV/Silva – Valencia

    Yak – Studge – rival has him which puts me off but surely can’t do without him.

    (could do Jones – Evans for a 4 pointer as well)

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    1. The Holy One
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good.

      I'm doing Silva > Valencia. Already have Nani & Evans.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Victor, thanks for taking the time. I have Nani and Jones, will wait on prognosis on VdV and Jones before I do anything. Can't afford to carry 2 injured players at this time of year.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      yes if you take out VDV

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    3. Mr Smith
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      Every page, sheesh

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        well if people replied I wouldn't keep posting it 😛

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        1. Mr Smith
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          Maybe they haven't for a reason?

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  10. Sheep Flavour
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    I hate myslef for doing this as per the normal messages during the GW end...

    Whats everyones current GW scores?

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    1. The Holy One
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      76

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    2. Demí
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      69

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      1. Christina.
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        liar.

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        1. 4vets
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          Ahem...

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      2. 4vets
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        68.... damn you! 😉

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      3. gunners2011
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        65

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    3. Christina.
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      102

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      1. McTown
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        jesus...

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        1. McTown
          • 14 Years
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          Oh wait..

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      2. 7923dos
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        pointless

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      3. Le Bluff
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        Lies!

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      4. Indalo
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        lies 🙂

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    4. kraftwerker
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      66

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    5. McTown
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      75

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    6. Epic Fail
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      60 something.

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    7. Mull
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      73

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      1. julian 'the terminator…
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        81

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    8. @ImpressiveTackl
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      71

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    9. Fulgencio Obelmejias
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      71, nice to see every arrow in green!

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    10. nimbin_headers
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      67 plus loads of bonus for xmas

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  11. morten2803
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Giggs as a nice differential next two rounds? transfer out N.dyer..

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      not likely to start both

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      1. morten2803
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        only Park/Carrick as competition, could see some good playtime, or am i wrong?

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        1. Shipstontrev
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          He's 38, he'll be rested at some point.

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    2. Fabreghastly
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      He plays about one in five. Still a class player but at his age needs a couple of weeks to recover after a top flight game

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  12. alberto_gunners
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    One fred transfer. Would you do brown -> evans or ramsey -> drenthe. Evans is tempting due to the next three games But drenthe is tempting due to DGW soon (have already planned the transfers for the next two game weeks.

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  13. d1sable
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Any news on Micah Richards or Phill Jones?

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    1. Leysh
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      http://t.co/YT9sDSsB

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  14. takeabowson
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    ruddy
    evans I bainesI naylor
    benarfa I silva I nani I bale
    rvp I sturridge I adebayor

    (p. jones, simpson, ferguson)

    point prediction gw18?

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  15. Nibbsy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Given Vorm
    Enrique Jones Evans Brown Simpson
    Nani Silva Walters Bale Dyer
    RVP Ade Ba

    Thinking of getting Sorensen in for Given tonight before his (potential?) drop. Any reason not to? Pretty sure I'll be able to field 11 next week even if Jones and Dyer are out. Can always take a hit to replace Jones if necessary too.

    Good move?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Go for lindegaard as SAF has said he will rotate de gea and lindegaard consistantly. Lindegaard has gotten 4/4 CS this season.

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      1. Nibbsy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Can't, already got 3 United.

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      2. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Whisper it, but Lindegaard is better than De Gea.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
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          Don't believe it.

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        2. Nibbsy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah definitely a strategy to think about in the Jan wildcard.

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        3. Fabreghastly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I'm thinking of bringing him in with my WC to play him every week with Vorm on the bench

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      3. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Nor, Sun, Avl, Ful

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      4. Fabreghastly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        He gets played in the easier games where Cleanies are more likely

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        1. Leysh
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          14 years, 4 months ago

          Fulham away isn't an easier game...

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 15 Years
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            5-0 says otherwise.

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            1. Leysh
              • 15 Years
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              Because it's always 5-0 away to Fulham isn't it? Like for City and United's past 3 results there... Sigh.

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              1. King Eric, in America
                • 15 Years
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                You're thick, right?

                The question was if *that* game was hard or easy. Not what the historical judgement of the game is. I hear in 1932 Fulham was a fortress.

                United owned that game, from early on. It was a walk.

                You're simple. Sigh.

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          2. Shipstontrev
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Looked easy last night, and Schwarzer is a big miss for Fulham.

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      5. Leysh
        • 15 Years
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        Pretty sure he hasn't said he's going to rotate them "consistantly"

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    2. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
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      Anyone think of a reason why I shouldn't make this move? Really don't want to lose more cash on Given when I have no other pressing transfers.

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      1. Fabreghastly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Better to have a DGW keeper and bring him in after

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        1. Nibbsy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Hmm I think both DGW keepers are overpriced. Might look again at Friedel's rotation with Vorm though, cheers.

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          1. Nibbsy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Not the nicest rotation unfortunately.

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  16. Park the bus
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    anyone also doing the sun dream team? needing to do transfers before lunchtime 2mo, would it be more sensible to draft in J Evans ahead of Jones given we don't know how severe his injury? also planning getting rid of Suarez now. another transfer window at the end of January.

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  17. Najoman86
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on the below appreciate

    Looking to get Nani in for VDV this week (fall 0.1m short, unfortunately)... also have Jones (awaiting confirmation)

    If my side has ManU defensive cover in Evans... is it worth transferring Jones out for Smalling?

    Current DEF: Enrique Jones Jagielka Evans Simpson

    Best to transfer Jones to a player in similar value/peformance in Kompany (6.3) or free up cash with a transfer in of Caulker (3.9)?

    Cheers

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't go for Smalling personally. If you don't think you'll need the cash up front then go for Kompany, but if you want the cash then Caulker is a decent shout. BAE could also be handy for the DGW.

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      1. Najoman86
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Hadn't considered BAE... Ideally would like to have VDV back into the side for the DGW... with Adebayor and Bale already in the side, can only have one more Yid

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        1. Nibbsy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Fair enough, at the moment it's not looking like VDV is going to be able to play twice in a few days though.

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          1. Nibbsy
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Ah there's 8 days between games for their double, so ignore that.

            Go for Caulker then so it's easier to get VDV in. You can always look at Kompany again in the Jan wildcard as his price won't go up that much.

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  18. Pomp and Circumstance
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    is VDV injured? I thought it was a tactical substitution

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    1. magic.inside
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      hamstring issue

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
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      Hamstring trouble apparently.

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    3. denial
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I don't know. People on here saying hamstring, but he was lost in the first half - wasn't able to keep up with the pace.

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      1. Fabreghastly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        That's what happens when you are feeling your hammy, you have to hold back in case it goes. VDV is an explosive player who gives it when he plays. Sounds like he was being held back by something today

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    4. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      To bring a worse player in? I don't see the logic.

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      1. Dale Cooper
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Oh, and I'm curious, why Redknapp doesn't give Pienaar a chance.

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        1. denial
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I've got nothing against Pienaar, but I don't know why we signed him.

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          1. Dale Cooper
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            I thought he was good at Everton and then looked to be more suitable to play at right wing / RM than Van der Vaart.

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  19. Fabreghastly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    "Easy" games for all the top teams next week. Goal fest or banana skins for the complaisant?

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    1. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      Or a big disappointment as half of our big guns are rested?

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      1. magic.inside
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        +1

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    2. Lucky_2010
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      maybe watermelon skins as well then loool ......

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  20. drughi
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    what to do with suarez ? Home against a poor rovers. keep for this game or sell for rooney/ade

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    1. Park the bus
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      keep keep keep

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  21. @ImpressiveTackl
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    So anyone know where I can see highlights of all the games?

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      MOTD on i-player in the UK.

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      1. Dale Cooper
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Is MOTD available on i-player? I always thought that it only applies to MOTD2.

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        1. Shipstontrev
          • 16 Years
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          Oh, sorry.

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      footytube.com

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    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      ESPN goals

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  22. thebizzle
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    When wll the bonus points be on please?

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    1. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      As usual, the day after the gameweek at around 9-10 AM GMT?

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  23. mahone24
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Pondering two transfer options, pick a letter
    A/ Begovic and VDV to Lindegaard and Bale
    B/ VDV and Pilkington to Nani and Moses/Gomez

    Ive got Rooney and Smalling so can only get one of Nani and Lindegaard, Im leaning towards Nani being essential for the next two then draft in Bale and Ade for the DGW?

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      B

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  24. Royal5
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    A) VDV & Jones -> Nani & Smalling (4 point hit)

    or

    B) VDV -> Valencia

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
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      A

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
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        Just what I wanted to hear. Thanks 🙂

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  25. Van Dal
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    is vdv guna drop tonight?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No.

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  26. julian 'the terminator…
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    what GW does the "timed" wildcard have to be used between? already used my normal wildcard

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    1. Acquafresca
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      i think its gw20-24

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      1. julian 'the terminator…
        • 16 Years
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        cheers lad.

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    2. 4vets
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      RTFM!

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      1. EdinaHibsNut
        • 16 Years
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        Keith, love it tho you must have have lots tied up in transfers. Got similar team valued. How how haven't you done better in the past?

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    3. Lucky_2010
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      gw20-23 .......

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  27. Ich bin Klopp
    • 16 Years
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    Got in late and have just seen VDV only lasted 45 mins... ok what happened? hamstring, hamstring or hamstring?

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    1. EdinaHibsNut
      • 16 Years
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      Hamstring 😉

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  28. jordanmw94
    • 14 Years
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    Hi guys, I'm uncertain about swapping out Ba now or keeping him until he leaves for the ANOC, my forward line consists of RVP, Adebayor and Ba, but I was thinking of making the switch to Sturridge, any thoughts?

    Also considering moving Mata as his consistency in FPL is horrible, to either Valencia or Drenthe, the former allowing me to upgrade Larrson or Walters to a maximum of 8.9, the latter allowing me 10.8 to spend on perhaps Silva again, although reluctant to do that.

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    1. jordanmw94
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ACON*

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