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4 January 2012 3136 comments
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The first double-gameweek of the season rolls on with two fixtures tonight, as Newcastle United host Manchester United, and Everton face Bolton Wanderers. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is open to capture you views on the events as they unfold.

Again the drama starts tonight with the (sometimes untrustworthy) incoming team news, but here are the official line-ups…

Newcastle XI: Krul, Simpson, Coloccini, Williamson, Santon, Ryan Taylor, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Shola Ameobi, Ba

Man United XI: Lindegaard, Valencia, Ferdinand, Jones, Evra, Park, Carrick, Giggs, Nani, Berbatov, Rooney

Two changes for the home, as Gabriel Obertan misses the opportunity to face his former club. Also out is Haris Vuckic, with Davide Santon and Shola Ameobi starting for the Magpies.

As for the visitors, Sir Alex drafts in Anders Lindegaard, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney for the trip to St. James Park.

Everton XI: Howard, Hibbert, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Donovan, Neville, Heitinga, Osman, Stracqualursi, Saha

Bolton XI: Bogdan, Steinsson, Cahill, Knight, Ricketts, Mark Davies, Muamba, Reo-Coker, Petrov, Eagles, Ngog

Whilst the game in the North-East will hold the attention of most, fantasy managers will have one eye on the game at Goodison Park, where Everton play their first fixture of two this gameweek.

David Moyes boldly goes with two strikers up front and starts Landon Donovan for the first time in his two-month loan period.

The Bolton team news is that Gary Cahill starts, despite his expected imminent move to the capital.

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  1. tristanabc
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    please rate my WCT i'm so angry i'm going to do it tonight!

    Sorensen Vorm
    McAuley Jones Senderos Simpson Enrique
    Silva Bale Dempsey Moses Sessegnon
    Aguero Sturridge RVP

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  2. Random_Guy
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    Sometimes, you just wanna scream...

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    1. Menly
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      But then you have to take a deep breath and laugh. Madly. While going on a rampage

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        To kill Phil Jones

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        1. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          He's my new hero.

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          1. I wish I knew
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            14 years, 3 months ago

            You changed your gav! ha ha

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  3. Silenzi's Dream Team
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    For those criticising Andy Carroll... Phil Jones future England captain? Seriously?

    Sorry - my anger getting the better of me...

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    1. Fishy
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      what you gonna judge it 1 game

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      1. Silenzi's Dream Team
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        I know, i know - just really annoyed. did say I was angry

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  4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    ok am 3 points behind my ML rival

    he has Dyer to come of his bench I have Tiote and Raylor to come off mine

    thoughts on who's likely to get bonus points from City and Chelsea could do with none for Komps, Richards and Terry (oh and Dyer but not holding out hope on that one)

    Ba will get me some and Bale, but don't see any for Friedel or BAE. DGW should give me 3 more points than him easily.

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  5. 4vets
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    The wife, who asked tonight "now Ba's gone off don't I get the 2pts", is now within about 10pts of me. This is tragic... but it makes a game of it 🙂

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      i don't understand her question?!

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      1. 4vets
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        She thought Ba didn't get 2pts coz he didn't play the 90 mins.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      She will be fighting you for the keyboard and mouse ... 😉

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      1. 4vets
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        We have the lappy also 🙂

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    3. Acer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      The game is a lottery mate, don't sweat it. We all like to think we are clever when things go well, but the truth is that luck plays a massive part. Who the hell would have bet the toon would beat Man U 3 - 0 and keep a clean sheet. I ditched Ba this week - gutted!!!

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    4. Optimus.
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      is your wife beating you?

      fpl wise i mean 🙂

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      1. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I'm more interested in the original question.

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          To answer both questions, not yet, but she will be soon 😉

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    5. Smurf
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I think shes must be trying to lead you into a faulse sense of security. You may not be the only member of the 4vets family visiting this site 🙂

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Jesus, don't make me paranoid! 😉

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  6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    osman injured? OMG what is going on, is it true?

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    1. Crazy Joe
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Osman, Jags and Rodwell all subbed with injuries.

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      1. Kick Some Goals
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        Drenthe must be a chance for their second game now, surely.

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        1. Hyperion
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          14 years, 3 months ago

          Guaranteed a 5 minute cameo just to make my GW even worse.

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  7. Red-United
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Honestly don't think my DGW will do much...

    Anyone shipping Jones out now that he is more likely to go back in to defense? I hope so, because his price needs to drop before I can get him in!

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  8. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Hopefuly a sh*t load of flair players on the way. Dont care if it upsets the balance, just get them in.

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  9. Ginkapo FPL
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Jones is a casualty of the injury ravaged man united squad. Do not get rid based on this performance. Why you thought Man U would do well against the plucky underdogs in their current state I am not sure, but whats done is done. Wait it out man U will be back.

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    1. Acer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      At the very least Utd should have score. No one would have predicted a 2 or 3 nil win.

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  10. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Was so optimistic coming into tonight with Nani, Hibbert and Jones.... 1 point..ONE point 😐 I'm logging off before I do something stupid like play my wildcard.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Sensible

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    2. Indalo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      in the EXACT same boat 🙂

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      1. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I got 1 point from Jones, Nani and Osman. Honestly, I expected at least 10.

        And I have Simpson on the bench, too. FTG.

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  11. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry for repost, got lost on last page

    Have 18.0 for one mifeilder and one forward, any suggestions?

    Already have Silva, Valencia, Bale, Adebayor & RVP

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    1. TigerGaz
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Aguero & Sess?

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      1. Kick Some Goals
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        This.

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  12. Andy
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    So... selling Vermaelen (0), O'hara (0), Rooney (2), Evans (0), Brown (0), Nani (2) and Mata (2) wasn't the dumbest* 20 point ever.

    Some of their replacements may have been, but still... I feel somewhat vindicated and yet equally as shit. I need some miracle recoveries and a 4-4 draw at White Hart Lane.

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    1. Silenzi's Dream Team
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      love the way Evans didn't even play and if you had him you would still blame the fella - LOL

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      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I think Man Utd missed him...

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    2. Zod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      A 20-point hit?

      Duke Silver would not be impressed.

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    3. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      😆

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    4. Connor's Calling
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Wow.

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    5. Andy
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      The problem is, right now, the six players other than Bale are looking at this: 1,1,1,1,2,2,3.

      Goals, goals, goals and more goals please Mr. Double Gameweek. I've thrown in the 11/12 towel already, but still.

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  13. Dirty Dhalsim
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Trailing my cup opponent (who is obviously some pseudo intellectual by loading up on Newcastle players) by 16pts pre bonus.

    Need Adebayor to go goal crazy on Wednesday to stand even the slimmest of chances.

    Goodbye.

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  14. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Howard doesnt celebrate the goal. Keepers are a weird bunch.

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      My rival has him. But to be honest a goalkeeper goal should be like 10 points or something.

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  15. DUDE
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    2pts for Rooney -2pts for Jones.. was looking forward to at least 10 pts tonight

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  16. My name is an echo
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    does anyone know when the bonus points will come in because of the length of the GW?

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  17. DRIZ ✅
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    united need a creative mid badly, sell half the players or change next season, ie berba, rio, carrick, park,

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Rio was the best of a very bad bunch tonight. He isn't going anywhere. Nor is Carrick. Nor is Berbatov.

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  18. Fishy
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    this game isnt about form or fixtures i just dont know what its about!?

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    1. Fishy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      i guess its been a little bit about form but definetly not fixtures

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  19. Corrigan
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    The DGW of 24 basically unravelled my season last year. Completely destroyed.

    I was determined not be undercovered ever again.

    Oh dear...

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Oh ... shit! 🙂

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Was that the week where someone scored 180 points in a GW

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      1. Corrigan
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        yes 168 or something

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  20. Livinginapool - Top 100 Any…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    This has been such a terrible season I think I'm going to start watching football like a fan, rather than through my FPL tinted glasses...

    Man Utd lost 3-0? Love it.

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  21. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Howard didn't celebrate at all! looked kind of annoyed at himself. felt sorry for the other goalie

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Fair play to Howard. Its very unfortunate for Bogdan

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  22. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    BAPS to go on 2moro?

    surely we won't have to wait until after Tot v Eve?

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  23. rasher
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    will i use my wildcard now???

    evans=injured
    drenthe=awol/probably injured
    given=injured
    gallas=injured
    ba= gone to acon

    also have the likes of hibbert andsinclair who ill prob get rid of

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Good luck FPL pro. 🙂

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  24. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    All I can add is - at least I played Krul ... 🙂

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    1. Silenzi's Dream Team
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      you jammy pucker! nice one 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I will accept your compliment graciously. 😉 However, it is the only thing that I have done well ...

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  25. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I defy anyone to have had a worst night than me.

    My team beat easily and 1 point from 4 players!!

    Can anyone beat that?

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Wow 1pt from 4, that hurts. Did you have any Newc pts on the bench?

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Oh yes Simpson on the bench.

        Best of all I sold Silva and Ba!!!

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        1. Kanus hat trick
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          I had Simpson on the bench but otherwise not too badly burned

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    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I got a severe FPL kicking, Granny - but you still win.

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    3. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I had 0 from three (Drenthe, Jones and Nani). Plus, I benched Krul and Simpson.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I should be pleased with Jagielka's 1 point and probable absence for the Spurs game. A point is a point.

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    4. McDog
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Nearly as bad. 1 point from 3 for me.

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        *Sorry 1 point from 4 including Drenthe.

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    5. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      My rival can match that. Unfortunately, so can I but at least I achieved the solitary point with ONLY 3 players and could laugh at the Utd defeat.

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    6. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly the same Granny. Hibbert, Drenthe, Nani, Jones. Desperately need Drenthe not to play so Naylor comes off the bench.

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  26. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    im not getting a wildcard option when making a transfer, anyone..?

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    1. strongbad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      you have to make at least 2, or 3 if you have 2 free.

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  27. Pinturicchio
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Hoping Rooney drops to mid again. Likely??

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  28. A2U
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I have Rooney. That sucks a bit.
    Oh wait I have Baines too. Ouch, that's pretty bad.
    Hold on a sec, I have Drenthe don't I? Well I guess it doesn't get worse than that.
    Hang on. *Looks at Phil Jones* -_- -_-

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      😆 Sorry about that ...

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      1. A2U
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        My sincere thanks for your consideration 😉

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  29. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Anders Lindegaard: never concedes. Time for Kuzczak no. 1?

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    1. For Fuchs Sake
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Lindegaard was fine tonight, nothing he could have done about any of the goals

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      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        What about shouting 'Leave it, Phil!' - he could have done that.

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        1. Well you know, Triffic
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Or Phil could of made decent contact with the ball and not end up nodding it onto his own knee o.o

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    2. Fishy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      defence was poor gk was ok

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  30. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    A bit off topic but please somebody help me..

    Why does the average rate of flow increase towards the sea ?

    🙂

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Because the river's channel is larger, I imagine.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        And therefore there is less resistance to the flow ...

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    2. Tabasco
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Gravity? Land is above sea level. Also many rivers start in high-land areas. I'm guessing by the way.

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    3. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Magic?

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